Apachii ROK has done this combination against ZL/HP, Nevski/Joan, and Scipio/LiuChe. The results are crazy, but it makes sense. Only issue is that which formation is ideal between Echelon or Circle...
Thats how I'm plaining to use him but I have leadership gear and will do Phillip primary Ragnar prime secondary. I have no idea why would he test will Lui Che and Scipo prime. Those teo need to be with Guan and William Walace
@TheLarknessMonster the easiest cost efficient way to get leadership gear is the old way and that is infantry. That's how I got 4 proc gears chasing the canyon meta through Trajan. Philip is very versatile but I will now have my leadership gear procs actually in effect. Hell I had to use Honda to get something out of it but we all know people swarm a primary Honda
@@pound4pound380 Yeah but I will be using Phillip with all archers as a 2nd or 3rd archer march so I'm ok using all gold archer gear that's not special talented.
For the same reason he's bad with Joan. After each active skill you have a second of downtime before you can use another active skill, and at some point you get so backed up that your rage bar gets locked up by your queue of active skills.
Hey, what do you think about this situation: In a KVK where you can choose a Relict to get all troup specific buffs for one troup type. Lets say we choose kav and philip is the second guy with the relict: You get: +10% damage reduction for 5 troups +20% bonus damage for 5 troups +35% HEALTH, DEFENSE, ATTACK and 20 march speed for kav!!!! + 30% bonus damage again because of 1 troup type 10% chance for 800 direct damage against 3 enemy troups 10% chance to reduce rage 150 for 3 enemy troups and the chances to use the skills again. I don't know if i forget about something, but this should easily be able to push for example william out of the meta for 2 kav marches! Of course only in some kvks. What do you think about that? BR BENtheBEE from 1668
You won't get +35% health def and atk. Artifact only converts single troops skills, and that is considered a multiple troop type buff. Indirectly they confirmed it recently in the patch notes talking about epic Joan
Really hoping you can finish your tests before the commander swap event as im sure it will impact many of our strategies going into it. Definitely excited to see william, shajar, and Ash and some mixed troop setups if you get to it. Also cant wait to see your cracked echelon set-up on him 🔥
Did you think about making a video about which commanders are top 2/3 options for each troop type @Chisgule? I already thought Philipp II. is good with Liu, but I wonder if he is even better with Ragnar P. Scipio seems to be okay, too. I sadly can't do that testing, since I'm really low spender. But since I'm very interested in ancient history I will expertise Philipp when finished with Liu. But I don't really know about cav or archers. Theoretically you could use any troop type. I read Shajar was a good pair, but I can't test that atm 🙈😅 But what about cav? Which commanders would make sense there? Because I'm most intrigued using him as mono inf/cav commander since that would reflect macedonian battle formations best
What the heck are they doing? They come out with two engineers and a leadership Commander. That's three commanders in a row. They need to slow down on these commanders. They need to slow down on these formations. Too much is coming out. Not everybody can throw money on the game like that. You need to give us time to work on these things
2 years of armaments and I've pulled 0 legendary inscriptions, only one's I have are from autarch's and I just recently got 8 shards to get my first inscription from that shop. And I almost always have the daily armament bundle going, so I've spent some money. At this pace it will be years and years before I can even start working on echelon, it seems 99.9% of players would be making a huge mistake trying to work on echelon.
Widening the variaty in formations and gear is another nail into the coffin of RoK, its already difficult doing all for one or two formations, pushing more formations into the game is just totally off. You spent 1k$ and got really bad armaments, says all about the chances for f2p or small/mid spenders
@@mikewowzowkiei meant for the expertise. If Philip does his skill twice it messes up and makes the dps commander deal damage late. And a cooldown starts. But if a dps commander is primary them doing they’re skill twice is amazing then they can get a damag reduction from Philip etc
But what if philip gets focused badly cause his op ness ....yes you give extra buff ...but if you go as archer for circle and other troop types hollow square his tankyness could make him survive longer to deliver his buffs........
Im only a minute in and this sucks on so many levels chisgule, most people have a hard enough time working on 2-3 sets of armaments. Adding more armaments and potentially forcing people to work on 5-7 different types will make it much harder to make any one type good unlike when wedge was the go to for everything. alll these changes to both EQ and armaments only benefit P2W. Once F2P starts to catch up on gear they implement iconic tiers on gear and now they are doing pretty much the same on armaments.
Here's the way I'd think about the armament situation... right now wedge is universally viable. As you get your wedge set in order, things like echelon/V, etc start to get very compelling as a next project. To your point, it will take F2P much longer
@@Chisguleiam low spender since realese i could make 3fully clean sets which also have decent arnments ,but never got a special...exept from autarchs,you kind of right but the piggy mechanic of getting 7time a blue before a special one is just insane if you also open some other formation chests exept your min focus ones.......
Secondary to LuChe: -40% chance to double cast LuChe's active (one of the best, if not THE best, active skill in the game) -combo attack improve philip's 4th skill - rage engine of LuChe makes it that, in a double cast skill cycle (aka 3 skill in a single cycle), philip's buff will still be on for Luche's active of the next cycle PS: Plz stop recommanding people to use him primary ... Leadership talent is only second to integration as the worst red talent tree in the game)
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Philip/Shajar is 🔥
Apachii ROK has done this combination against ZL/HP, Nevski/Joan, and Scipio/LiuChe. The results are crazy, but it makes sense. Only issue is that which formation is ideal between Echelon or Circle...
@@alonreed740Echelon because it’s also multiples the buffs form Shajars expertise
Expertised him instantly and currently using as secondary for ragnar prime cuz i dont have leadership gear
Thats how I'm plaining to use him but I have leadership gear and will do Phillip primary Ragnar prime secondary. I have no idea why would he test will Lui Che and Scipo prime. Those teo need to be with Guan and William Walace
I mean you don't need leadership gear. Just don't put special talented gear on him.
@TheLarknessMonster the easiest cost efficient way to get leadership gear is the old way and that is infantry. That's how I got 4 proc gears chasing the canyon meta through Trajan. Philip is very versatile but I will now have my leadership gear procs actually in effect. Hell I had to use Honda to get something out of it but we all know people swarm a primary Honda
@@pound4pound380 Yeah but I will be using Phillip with all archers as a 2nd or 3rd archer march so I'm ok using all gold archer gear that's not special talented.
just give him inf eq xd
why didn´t you try to pair him with harald ? harald skill is trigger a lot so would that buff philip?
For the same reason he's bad with Joan. After each active skill you have a second of downtime before you can use another active skill, and at some point you get so backed up that your rage bar gets locked up by your queue of active skills.
is liu che + philip viable? as a replacement for alex
No
I feel like its going to be, Philip seems a lot better than alex
Philip would be an upgrade Alex but the formation would be tricky
What about Beli P? Wouldn't his and Philip's rage reductions stack nicely?
Philipp works well with LC since he's doing much like Alex but better🧐
finally someone pointed that out
Philip/Shajar == S+++ Tier Canyon pairing
So far Philip has not been tested enough, we need more tests
Hey, what do you think about this situation:
In a KVK where you can choose a Relict to get all troup specific buffs for one troup type.
Lets say we choose kav and philip is the second guy with the relict:
You get:
+10% damage reduction for 5 troups
+20% bonus damage for 5 troups
+35% HEALTH, DEFENSE, ATTACK and 20 march speed for kav!!!!
+ 30% bonus damage again because of 1 troup type
10% chance for 800 direct damage against 3 enemy troups
10% chance to reduce rage 150 for 3 enemy troups
and the chances to use the skills again.
I don't know if i forget about something, but this should easily be able to push for example william out of the meta for 2 kav marches!
Of course only in some kvks.
What do you think about that?
BR BENtheBEE from 1668
You won't get +35% health def and atk. Artifact only converts single troops skills, and that is considered a multiple troop type buff. Indirectly they confirmed it recently in the patch notes talking about epic Joan
Really hoping you can finish your tests before the commander swap event as im sure it will impact many of our strategies going into it. Definitely excited to see william, shajar, and Ash and some mixed troop setups if you get to it. Also cant wait to see your cracked echelon set-up on him 🔥
I am curious to see Philip with Attila, amaelius or even takeda and how the damage would work instead of on normal active skills
I wanna see how broken Ashur Philip is as a rally 😂
Test with Ragnar pls
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Did you think about making a video about which commanders are top 2/3 options for each troop type @Chisgule?
I already thought Philipp II. is good with Liu, but I wonder if he is even better with Ragnar P.
Scipio seems to be okay, too.
I sadly can't do that testing, since I'm really low spender.
But since I'm very interested in ancient history I will expertise Philipp when finished with Liu.
But I don't really know about cav or archers.
Theoretically you could use any troop type.
I read Shajar was a good pair, but I can't test that atm 🙈😅
But what about cav?
Which commanders would make sense there?
Because I'm most intrigued using him as mono inf/cav commander since that would reflect macedonian battle formations best
What the heck are they doing? They come out with two engineers and a leadership Commander. That's three commanders in a row. They need to slow down on these commanders. They need to slow down on these formations. Too much is coming out. Not everybody can throw money on the game like that. You need to give us time to work on these things
You know you don’t have to invest in everything that comes out, right?
@NotAK99 everybody knows that that's not the point Don't be small-minded
bro just save your sculptures for the newest commanders.
Why didn't you ever talk about the canyon?
because zero people care about canyon
Same category like Beli P and Shajar, unique, future potential (maybe ), he have unique formation, but in reality easy skip even for a whales
2 years of armaments and I've pulled 0 legendary inscriptions, only one's I have are from autarch's and I just recently got 8 shards to get my first inscription from that shop. And I almost always have the daily armament bundle going, so I've spent some money. At this pace it will be years and years before I can even start working on echelon, it seems 99.9% of players would be making a huge mistake trying to work on echelon.
Gonna get those from autarch or mercy. Don't spend on gambling items. Spend on certain items. Like heads and mats and equipment.
Cash spending on mats, gem spending on bps
The commanders come with time and so do armaments
Is he good for garrison with the new formation?
If he does, then Philipp could save a lot of ghs.
Widening the variaty in formations and gear is another nail into the coffin of RoK, its already difficult doing all for one or two formations, pushing more formations into the game is just totally off. You spent 1k$ and got really bad armaments, says all about the chances for f2p or small/mid spenders
If hes paired with a dps commander then he should be a secondary because that will give the dps commander a better chance of re activating.
If you can read it’s only Philip that has the 40% chance and if you put him 2nd your missing out on the all damage buff
@@mikewowzowkieit’s about giving first chance to trigger.
@@mikewowzowkiei meant for the expertise. If Philip does his skill twice it messes up and makes the dps commander deal damage late. And a cooldown starts. But if a dps commander is primary them doing they’re skill twice is amazing then they can get a damag reduction from Philip etc
@@zkx2417 ok In that sense I can see where your coming from with your question
@@mikewowzowkie 😊 👍
No Philip Trajan Test??
It got decimated 1v1 lol. But no we didn’t test them together exhaustively.
But what if philip gets focused badly cause his op ness ....yes you give extra buff ...but if you go as archer for circle and other troop types hollow square his tankyness could make him survive longer to deliver his buffs........
Zhuge primary philip secondary is possible??
I think philip lc is going to replace lc alex, and I am someone who believes LC Alex is better than WW LC
if u dont have crits u can give him just inf eq
@chisgule Him or Inf William ?
I love your videos
Check out the pronunciation of echelon.... please.
Hmmmm... They give us a commander for us to spend heavy on new formation..😅
Why didn't you test him with Ragnar prime
I’m really exited to see how Philip is gonna be used, isn’t 1960 gonna fight soon? We’ll see how he really does
Yeah i think its like 2 days before Pass 4
Nobody will use Philip + Scip. We have Guan, we have Ragnar. Same thing with Zhuge and same thing with LC. Maybe Shadjar, Ashur.
Attila please
Ragnar P with Philip?
He doesnt have Ragnar on alt acc
Philip as secondary why him at 1st
Gain big damage buff, then secondary does big damage.
Philip team fight vs trajan team fight🤔
Im only a minute in and this sucks on so many levels chisgule, most people have a hard enough time working on 2-3 sets of armaments. Adding more armaments and potentially forcing people to work on 5-7 different types will make it much harder to make any one type good unlike when wedge was the go to for everything.
alll these changes to both EQ and armaments only benefit P2W. Once F2P starts to catch up on gear they implement iconic tiers on gear and now they are doing pretty much the same on armaments.
Here's the way I'd think about the armament situation... right now wedge is universally viable. As you get your wedge set in order, things like echelon/V, etc start to get very compelling as a next project. To your point, it will take F2P much longer
This is Lilith idea. Players are force to spending money or otherwise quit this game
@@Chisguleiam low spender since realese i could make 3fully clean sets which also have decent arnments ,but never got a special...exept from autarchs,you kind of right but the piggy mechanic of getting 7time a blue before a special one is just insane if you also open some other formation chests exept your min focus ones.......
phillip is good for the game and a good commander, but also completely skipable, which is the perfect place for new commanders to be.
Hmmm Heraclios/choe has better talents then otherwise😮😮😮
in conclusion, Philip is skippable 🤣
Secondary to LuChe:
-40% chance to double cast LuChe's active (one of the best, if not THE best, active skill in the game)
-combo attack improve philip's 4th skill
- rage engine of LuChe makes it that, in a double cast skill cycle (aka 3 skill in a single cycle), philip's buff will still be on for Luche's active of the next cycle
PS:
Plz stop recommanding people to use him primary ... Leadership talent is only second to integration as the worst red talent tree in the game)
He’s just really needing his leadership gear to be relevant haha
@@32eagle90 you can just use uncrit inf gear and be just fine
@@bark-q3l yeah but chis has that full set of leadership gear he wants to use, that’s what I’m saying, nothing about a regular set not being fine
Really guys you still playing this p2w game? I was in 1405 early game thanks i quit and sold my account after paying 8k on it
Eheheheh
First
Blah blah blah. Show me the testing 😂
First🤭
Lol dude if you spend a grand $$ on anything it better be good...😂