Com2us, Please Fix R5! - Summoners War

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024
  • This is no "pitchfork everything bad" style of video, but rather some constructive feedback on what can be made better! Recently QoL updates have been good, but R5 is really lacking. Therefore I want to emphasize this topic again!
    Previous Video looking more into the math of the drop rates: • R5 is TERRIBLE to Farm...
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Комментарии • 104

  • @itzsummagic
    @itzsummagic 16 часов назад +48

    so rare to get the grinds you need, then for it to low roll. time after time after time.... pure pain

    • @marcosalberto3282
      @marcosalberto3282 10 часов назад +1

      5 runes types per week like dimensional dungeon will fix it

    • @xander2290
      @xander2290 6 часов назад

      @@marcosalberto3282 they just have to release an item that exclude every set of grinds except for the one you want for 1 hour like the one for runes

    • @sergeiivanov5739
      @sergeiivanov5739 2 часа назад

      @@marcosalberto3282 agree, liked ur cmt. Issue: even when limited to 5 types, you can never get stupid swift/vio/will or whatever you need. Check: I farmed Khalderun predator 5, and got dozens of guard runes grind, and no swift speed, even hero. Imagine that. Why good: cuz it's step forward, and inc the probability of getting what u need.

  • @gleesondsouza5949
    @gleesondsouza5949 15 часов назад +16

    They should just make grinds increase in value after a low roll. So if a leg speed grind rolls 4 instead of 5 next time you grind it guaranteed a 5 . Same for the other stat grinds goes up by one

    • @andy6302
      @andy6302 13 часов назад +3

      Facts. Look above I said the same thing in more detail

    • @sergeiivanov5739
      @sergeiivanov5739 2 часа назад

      Like it, but they never gonna make it :((( I can grind all my ancient swift to +6 easy if yours applies: 23+5 to 23+6, and 23+5 to 23+6, then 25+5 to 25+6 and finally will slot 3: 28+3 to 28+4 and then 28+5 and then 28+6. Would like cheat code. BUT! Given the rarity, I see it is very amazing. You can't just get those speed grindstones easy way (at least from my exp). What would be much easier and comfy. I liked ur cmt.

  • @SW_TAINO
    @SW_TAINO 16 часов назад +16

    R5 needs fixing and the fact that you could roll lowest value 10 times in a row shouldn’t be a thing either.

    • @metin2faithful70
      @metin2faithful70 13 часов назад +1

      very true tainop

    • @jessevera9340
      @jessevera9340 7 часов назад +2

      ^ This, so many times I have used grinds/gems and I ended up with the same spot I started.
      Used 10 hero vio hp% gem ended up at 8% after all of them.

    • @sergeiivanov5739
      @sergeiivanov5739 2 часа назад

      TAINO from the channel 108, A guardian, a person who got dozens of 180+ and a few 200 vio runesets :) Hello! I watch you everytime you appear in that channel!

  • @michelex12
    @michelex12 16 часов назад +13

    just remouve the normal drop and leave the horn and stuf so every one will farm for those and craft what the people need. in my opinion that is the best way whidout put a r6

  • @zsrc3623
    @zsrc3623 14 часов назад +6

    R5 SUCKS, HOPE YOU SEE THIS COM2US.

  • @liltich92
    @liltich92 15 часов назад +15

    Even with the booster event. I didn't actually notice any difference in drop rate for grinds when it was activated

    • @benjaminmesserer2471
      @benjaminmesserer2471 14 часов назад +4

      Booster event was pretty bad for raid in the first place as the drop table is way too large compared to dungeon drop tables

  • @SW-IAmSpeed
    @SW-IAmSpeed 10 часов назад +1

    Completely agree with this video! It is insanely difficult to get the grinds you need! I farm for gems to get claws to get grinds. But, the only way you can get intangible grinds is from R5 and you just never get them! Com2Us please listen to Seiishizo and your userbase and fix R5!

  • @DaBomb99x
    @DaBomb99x 16 часов назад +4

    ignoring the horns and claws is very significant, they just need a way to be able to focus on specific sets. Increasing the drop rate of the horns and claws would achieve this and it's also good for trying to get regular players to make use of other sets outside of the main ones.

  • @Talon.d.Achille
    @Talon.d.Achille 14 часов назад +3

    Just remove the blue grinds and increase the legendary grinds by a 20/25% more

  • @benjaminmesserer2471
    @benjaminmesserer2471 11 часов назад +1

    According to the "land debuff / defbreak all the time if you have 100 acc":
    I would attache it to the acc cap. Like if we have a acc cap from 35 for giants, make it - idk 30? - higher than it would need to be, to remove res check. That way we don´t need to build every unit at a 100 acc if it should land debuffs AND there is some more reason for this cap if you aren´t very much of a beginner.

  • @skyxfreakzz3006
    @skyxfreakzz3006 16 часов назад +4

    i`m a big fan of the +1 idea. Farming for legi hp% on will only for it to roll lower then it was is just stupid in my opinion. Let`s say your really unlucky and you need the hp% grind 5 times because it only rolls +1 it still is an insane amount of famring for 1 rune for 1 sub stat. A change to r5 is necessary at this point i i don`t know how com2us don`t {or won`t) to see this.

  • @BobSmith-ne1bo
    @BobSmith-ne1bo 15 часов назад +2

    I think buffing horn drop rate would help and then also add the ability to turn gems and grinds into horns at like a 3-1 ratio or something.

    • @andy6302
      @andy6302 13 часов назад

      I think you mean claws into horns. The rate you listed of gems into horns is laughable

  • @andy6302
    @andy6302 13 часов назад +1

    All grinds need to reduce the low rolls as you progress. For example HP grind 7-11% grind.
    As soon as 8% rolls 7% is no longer possible 8%+
    As soon as 10% grind rolls that becomes the new minimum. Meaning 5 grinds is the absolute max grinds needed to max any % stat at hero quality

  • @ShiekSw
    @ShiekSw 9 часов назад

    An idea could also be to select a bunch of rune types that you can farm r5 for. Though you are forced to select e.g. Blade if you selected vio (eg. Blade Vio Despair Destroy Determination Swift Fatal)

  • @LawlietDN_92
    @LawlietDN_92 13 часов назад

    For R5, I think of a mechanic where you are able to "infuse" the R5 boss with one or more of the elemental beasts, so that you're able to drop only the grinds correspinding of what that beast drop.

  • @Josh-db4gh
    @Josh-db4gh 5 часов назад

    1 fix suggestion would be selling grinds/gem gives you horn shards so you can craft specific grinds/gem

  • @michaelfong7365
    @michaelfong7365 13 часов назад

    a lot of good suggestions to fix R5, but here's one that i think can kill all birds with one stone:
    Give us a system to "recycle" bricked grinds/gems, similar to what we already have for runes with Rune Essences. You would obtain this item (call it, say "Rune Dust") by either selling grinds/gems OR if you fail to achieve an improvement upon use. You would then use it (likely a large amount of this dust) to guarantee +1.
    - Solves the problem of rolling +4 spd time after time after time. You will eventually get that last point.. or if you already have enough currency saved up, you can get it right then and there.
    - Solves the problem of there being too many useless rune sets that dilute the pool of usable drops. This is a universal currency, so you can essentially trade the bad stuff in for progress towards something you actually need.
    - Solves the problem of grind/gem storage. There'd be less reason to hoard, since as mentioned, everything can be recycled into a universal currency.
    - Solves the problem of guarantee +1 being too op. Basically allows them to scale it down by choosing a price for the guarantee.

  • @PlebGod-fj5ve
    @PlebGod-fj5ve 10 минут назад

    spliting r5 to two wings with different strats would be new content into game and lowering energy would fix multiple problems at least to an extent

  • @ferniediaz5616
    @ferniediaz5616 11 часов назад +1

    if none of what you said is creative enough, hear this out. rift crystals used to craft grinds/gems in respect to where the crystal drops (fire crystal craft dropping vamp/despair/fight/ all of the specific drops from it) would make a huuuge change at the very least with rift crystal usage

    • @Sivyis333
      @Sivyis333 9 часов назад

      They will do that when they release choose your own ld5. No capp

  • @lucianneagu6015
    @lucianneagu6015 16 часов назад +2

    what about a craft that converts 10 to 1 that u want
    or something like that?

  • @gloriouseueu5491
    @gloriouseueu5491 8 часов назад +1

    good video thanks for trying to save the game seii

  • @masonkim5345
    @masonkim5345 3 часа назад

    Hey kinda unrelated but is the new teshar tmog any faster than the base skin?

  • @westonhutto3465
    @westonhutto3465 8 часов назад

    They should make it where r5 only drops the horns and claws and nothing else.

  • @Muhib1
    @Muhib1 15 часов назад

    i agree 99% of the timed i get blue Grinds only from R5 and its mostly the ones i don't want

  • @EternalChase
    @EternalChase 7 часов назад

    I am always surprised that all peoples that talking about grinds/gems issues never think about removing blue shit from all the b5 (raid,rift and dimensions) looks like the easiest first step to me.

  • @DeeSaint905
    @DeeSaint905 10 часов назад

    r5 sucks. listen to this man he knows whats up

  • @FakGoHe
    @FakGoHe 13 часов назад

    Can't disagree, rune farming is pain but you see results in end of day but R5 is different animal. I go in only when i am desperate, i need butt loads of certain grinds which i cant really get..

  • @picjojo8022
    @picjojo8022 14 часов назад

    no res check would be nice and some monster should have perfect ai brandia roberta etc. something else. They hit harder if with debuffs they should use that skill if a debuff is on.

  • @nvanattia
    @nvanattia 2 часа назад

    R5 is such an annoyance due to the value. If it was like some other annoying dungeons, we could just skip it and do something else, but there really isn't a better alternative.

  • @beninter5936
    @beninter5936 15 часов назад

    What about the legend grinds that gives you blue rates? Maybe make the legends give you minimum purple minus one could also help?

  • @leechee5721
    @leechee5721 10 часов назад

    Tbh its way better to farm rift beast and get the grinds through the beast-claw drops than to farm r5

  • @spoon8890
    @spoon8890 5 часов назад

    Costs so much damn xtals, so hard to get the legend grinds you want...... then they min roll. Haven't even been farming for grinds in months because I refuse to spend money to keep a constant farming going.

  • @nikolausschatzl4423
    @nikolausschatzl4423 15 часов назад +1

    You get 1 useable grind in 60 runs IF YOU ARE LUCKY! so not worth it

  • @herokiller621
    @herokiller621 10 часов назад

    i think grinds shouldn't be +1 instantly but a increasing chance after x amount of rolls, so for hp% I'm 19 legend grinds deep and still only +8% which is stupid, so for each grind/gem it should be a increasing chance to always get max roll on that specific rune, say speed it would be 50/50 but 2nd is 60/40 3rd is 70/30 so on so forth, (5% with current drop rates would be too little of a chance improvement Imo)

  • @infern0soracle330
    @infern0soracle330 16 часов назад +1

    i farmed r5 for about a week recently... i got 12spd grinds in total, but around 50 def% (only hero/leg counted). its ridiculous.

    • @dragonsky8396
      @dragonsky8396 15 часов назад +1

      Everything in this game is ridiculous especially the farming part after that the rune rolls if I would be not a veteran player would see everyday reasons to quit this game its just so much rng focused

    • @andy6302
      @andy6302 13 часов назад +1

      Nah, even HP% is rare. It's obviously tiered for flat to be the most common then % then speed. Which is an even deeper scam towards the players

  • @AndTheWhale7
    @AndTheWhale7 16 часов назад +1

    I wish they would just give a constant boost to the runes and grinds you want. It's a dying 10 year old game... very few new players.

  • @chongrich4224
    @chongrich4224 14 часов назад

    R5 is such an omega timegate. Grining out a single rune takes fkin months it feels like but oh well at least i could grind my quad speed tolerance rune if i dropped one :^)

  • @512momo512
    @512momo512 12 часов назад

    R5 sucks, it's the worst thing to farm ever ! And I've done a lot of essence farming for fusion skill ups so I know how painful things can be...
    Please fix that com2us

  • @badiarb
    @badiarb 14 часов назад

    the horns don't fix the issue, we have no control over what grind we get, only the rune type, so the issue stands

  • @SleepyDeer-bi1vs
    @SleepyDeer-bi1vs 7 часов назад

    I been having issues i can't get any grindstone for acc resistance, crit dmg, crit rate, I been doing r5 for months. 0 of them been dropped across all rune types

  • @Gil-games
    @Gil-games 10 часов назад

    No blues, no mana!

  • @luisa3447
    @luisa3447 13 часов назад

    They need to get rid of the useless stat runes & grinds/enchants (energy, guard, tolerance, etc) sw is too much of a grind even without those but it’ll make it feel better to get the things you actually need. A lot of the playerbase is leaving even streamers & pros so they need to fix these issues

    • @luisa3447
      @luisa3447 13 часов назад

      Or make it so r5/rifts only drops horns & claws

  • @robertv6628
    @robertv6628 12 часов назад

    Remove the rare grinds in r5 and increase the horn drop rates. Anything after that is making the game to easy.

  • @will9269
    @will9269 13 часов назад

    Make fusion for grinds/gems sounds helpful. Like 10 grinds/gems with same grade and same type, can be 1 new with a higher grade.
    Let say 10 grind blue +spd vio turns into 1 grind hero +spd vio. Its not OP i think. U still need to farm a alot but you still can get something that u need just by a little bit easier.

    • @andy6302
      @andy6302 13 часов назад

      Oooh I like the concept of an evolution or fusion feature for runes, gems, grinds. A revamp of the dust into fusion would be sweet!

  • @ShiekSw
    @ShiekSw 9 часов назад

    Please just fix R5!!! It's completely outdated

  • @McTintin10
    @McTintin10 12 часов назад

    It takes to much time to grind/gem a rune to its full potential, if for the best players it takes to much time and resource imagine for the mid/casual players, it takes to much time to get devilmons, it takes to much time to get nat 4 skill ups!
    Ive been playing for a couple years, I have good runes for a f2p account, I have stablized my account, I can do all content, have decent rankings, now I have a lot of nat 5s I have summoned and want to play with, I need almost 380 devilmons(its going to take me forever to skill them all)
    Nowadays you can get decent runes to compete in gw and Rta fairly quickly but the rest like grinds and gems dont keep up with the rune you get
    It sttil to much of a waiting simulator...
    They have to change this if they want the game to feel fresh and competitve

  • @OscarDk1
    @OscarDk1 15 часов назад +1

    Why fix it? I loooooooooooooooove getting vio+despair+swift flats 40 times, and then a beautiful TOLERANCE speed ... Loooooooooooooove it (*grinds teeth angrily*)

  • @rifanidwitauriqie4508
    @rifanidwitauriqie4508 6 часов назад

    They need to buff world boss drop, R5 drop and labyrinth drop. Imagine waiting 10days just to get mana stone and 💩 flat legend rune

  • @jansenng7195
    @jansenng7195 16 часов назад

    used 10 legend swift spd grinds and only rolled +4, this is so damn frustrating. Whats worse? Getting those 10 legends grinds took forever.

  • @fistingturtle
    @fistingturtle 15 часов назад

    Something or anything would be better than nothing!

  • @fatmangaming6857
    @fatmangaming6857 13 часов назад

    R5 Sucks! Here's an idea. Sell grinds for crafting materials. With crafting materials, you can select the grind type and stats at a cost like you do with legend rune crafts

  • @merpaderp.___.4648
    @merpaderp.___.4648 10 часов назад

    Lol i havent dont r5 in ages. I just do elemental raids and use the horns

  • @brookewagstaff5329
    @brookewagstaff5329 12 часов назад

    They should make 5 different r5s.
    Each boss uses the runes for the grind your after.
    Win win, new content and better odds. Just my opinion.

    • @wsadqwer110
      @wsadqwer110 11 часов назад

      They did that with the other gem raids, which he said wasn't a fan of because they'll split the runes your trying to grind between them all.
      Besides it's basically not really an improvement since you still need grind a bunch of useless fodder just to get the one and now you're not even getting the other ones you also wanted, so you're back where you started + all the other issues stated here.
      The too many Runes fix shouldn't be gatekept by new content either, new content should improve rates and rewards imo.

  • @bumin8001
    @bumin8001 14 часов назад

    Share it guys

  • @andufalador
    @andufalador 15 часов назад

    Next video idea: why my cu2s employee salary sux

  • @SantiagoGarcia-et5ew
    @SantiagoGarcia-et5ew 2 часа назад

    Hola , es gracioso que consigues mas rapido la gema que quieres con una garra de bestia que con 10 rounds de r5

  • @robymaru03
    @robymaru03 11 часов назад

    I dropped this game before and came back for the anniversary, but it's so annoying I will drop it again, how do you tell a new player that he got to deal with all this BS, just to get beaten by vio proc afterwards.

  • @CesNiJeh
    @CesNiJeh 9 часов назад

    Grinded r5 for 10 refilles yesterday and I only got a spd fatal.😂

  • @arcel-ox4sj
    @arcel-ox4sj 13 часов назад

    maybe increase horn drop rate

  • @dinnotpromise198
    @dinnotpromise198 2 часа назад

    fix this R5 and PvE bullshit, com2us

  • @andy6302
    @andy6302 13 часов назад

    Blue and white gems, grinds, runes out of the game. Period.

  • @MaelZack
    @MaelZack 15 часов назад

    R5 is horrible way to grind… you have more chance to get from the claws and horn what you need than…farm it…

  • @infernale7949
    @infernale7949 9 часов назад

    I prefer stable +1

  • @getrekttbro
    @getrekttbro 14 часов назад

    Who can start a gofundme for a new hat for seii

  • @noremac251
    @noremac251 16 часов назад

    I feel like r6 is coming now

    • @andy6302
      @andy6302 13 часов назад

      If course, why fix what's broke? Just introduce new harder content that's not beginner friendly.

  • @wsadqwer110
    @wsadqwer110 11 часов назад

    I am in support for improvements, don't use the fact that I've been doing a lot of r5 against me..
    Honestly 10 slots still feels high which to c2u means too low so going to try to tip it down to a 6 which might equate to an 8 to 12 in their eyes.
    Also if the rolls are weighted towards the lower end, remove that and make the chance even among the options. Idk if this is implemented in summoners war, but a 9 should have the same chance to roll as a 5.
    An example
    Sad face
    5: 40%
    6: 30%
    7: 20%
    8: 10%
    9: 5%
    Happy face
    5, 6, 7, 8, 9: 20%
    Don't make R5 harder, but expand could also mean these features are hidden behind a hard wall many players can't do and for farming, not a fan of, so don't lock these features behind a harder instance but rather improve rates and rewards with more difficult instances but improve too many rune types fix to all.

  • @bachchuot17
    @bachchuot17 3 часа назад

    this game really need to learn from Dislyte, so much stupid farming mechanic

  • @allofsalf8341
    @allofsalf8341 16 часов назад

    fix it c2us

  • @thanhphat9021
    @thanhphat9021 16 часов назад

    they fix all dungeons but r5 lol, blue grinds all the time

  • @khitzalqueza5028
    @khitzalqueza5028 14 часов назад

    Drop rate too low ,. And grinds rolls gives you sht 10x or more ,.. they need to fix this r5

  • @ilkayuckac9251
    @ilkayuckac9251 8 часов назад

    com2us fix r5

  • @jasusmalorus2800
    @jasusmalorus2800 16 часов назад

    R5 doesnt give gem :(

  • @Krazik
    @Krazik 16 часов назад +1

    I dont know what you guys are complaining about. I always get lots of the legendary grinds I want and need. I have too many just sitting in my storage. I think you guys need to farm more. Just kidding. Please fix R5. 🙏 🙏

  • @jacobm.7352
    @jacobm.7352 15 часов назад

    Please

  • @clarkj3396
    @clarkj3396 12 часов назад

    pls fix

  • @youknowwho257
    @youknowwho257 11 часов назад

    But raids are fixed, they give nothing and that's how is suposed to be for c2us, maybe a speed vio legend today, maybe a speed will 4 a week after that and so on.
    Why you think so many people don't have a ld 5 after a decade of playing, rates are way too much predatory.

  • @hrbackstein7156
    @hrbackstein7156 8 часов назад

    No r5 is good so

  • @behnamnajafi3768
    @behnamnajafi3768 15 часов назад

    R5 sux ;)

  • @crkTyphoon
    @crkTyphoon 15 часов назад

    A small objection from my end:
    The vast majority of reliable Speed Teams require obscenely good Fight Runes, and anyone claiming otherwise is straight up deluding themselves or caught in a bubble of having too many obscenely good runes already. So putting Fight into the spectrum of not needed Grinds is just flat out not true in my humble opinion.
    Other than that, personally I believe the best way to address R5, is for solo runs to feature 3 drops per win, not 1, as after all you still need 3 teams.
    At the same time, the best solution would be to include Immemorial Grinds in R5 with the exact the same droprate as common everything else, or at the very least for legendaries. Because even though that is still super rare, it's also the most flexible.
    I'd rather be able to exclude certain grind/gem stats than rune sets. Because for the love of god, I don't need my tenthousands Rage Res Gem, nor my fivethousands flat defense grind.

  • @lpawl89
    @lpawl89 15 часов назад

    Bro you’re complaining about a game that is dying, and com2us is really just milking it dry until it’s done.

    • @Granattanken99
      @Granattanken99 15 часов назад +1

      its not dying lmao

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  14 часов назад

      anything is dying 1 day at a time, that doesn't change anything 😋