Neuvillette + Xilonen Team Damage! Fav Vs Signature & Talent lvl 8 Vs 10

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @syztem
    @syztem Месяц назад +1

    Nice vid, can't wait to see more genshin content!

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      It’s coming soon! Some abyss stuff. Some stuff with the wifey!

  • @Persephone_GI
    @Persephone_GI Месяц назад +1

    Very informative! 🙏🏼

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад +1

      ❤️💛💚 Thanks baybay!

  • @d_x_m_e
    @d_x_m_e Месяц назад +1

    Nice content man! The only thing you could improve are the thumbnails and more editing on your videos. If the thumbnail doesn't catch people, it doesn't matter how good the video is, cause they won't click on it anyways. Think of it like the package of a product. If you buy a new product for the first time, you'll only buy it if it catches you. If the design of the product looks plain and standard, you'll most likely not try it out. And the same thing goes for thumnbails.
    For the editing, I personally don't have a problem if there's not a lot of editing, but a lot of people tend to click off the video if it's just gameplay without editing. Depending on your personality, generally you can choose an editing style between proffesional/educational, or a more fun editing style to make the viewers laugh. Anyway the video was fire, keep it up man💪🔥

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад +1

      @@d_x_m_e thank you! I’m working on the editing for sure! I’m getting much faster and able to do more cool stuff. Appreciate the feedback! Stay tuned bc it’s only up from here!

  • @Riju
    @Riju Месяц назад +5

    That gyat is truly broken 😅

  • @chuy353
    @chuy353 Месяц назад +2

    i gyat to pull xilonen

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      Is that Chuy?! Yes indeed you should?

  • @nanathedelta8561
    @nanathedelta8561 Месяц назад +3

    Realistically speaking, only YT CC and people who dont know how the game works will think Xilonen is broken. dont get me wrong, she's a very very powerful character, without a doubt, but people who said she's broken is just.. mislead people. sure, she does pretty much what Kazuha does but they are still fundamentally a different character (and Kazuha is not a broken character) Xilonen doesn't have grouping ability like Kazuha, she doesnt have personal damage like Kazuha. this is how Hoyo balance the game, for a character to be good at something, they must lose something in return. Xilonen may fit in many teams but she sure as hell isn't always an upgrade to them.
    Your Neuvillette testing is also not accurate. Neuvilette's old mono hydro team use Zhongli instead of Barbara. there's a massive different between Zhongli and Barbara in term of buff, you know ? Barbara only give 15% hydro DMG to Neuvillette while Zhongli shred 20% RES and can give 15% DMG (if using 4pc cinder set) or 30% DMG (if using 4pc Petra Archaic). not to mention, you have constellation one on Neuvillette, losing 3rd stack is a massive DPS loss for Barbara variant. so its not really surprising at all why Xilonen variant would crush Barbara variant. Xilonen is also not a 100% surefire upgrade for Neuvillette. it is an upgrade for you since you have his constellation one. but for those without constellation one, she's not going to be an upgrade over Zhongli. getting staggered out of his charged attack is indeed a DPS loss. practicality is one of the factors that affect DPS as a whole. its the reason why Neuvillette is the best DPS for a reason. its not because of his damage (his damage is very good to begin with, yes, but they aren't the best) but because of his self-sustained ability and massive attack range, something that most character cant do, which leads them to do less damage than their theoretical DPS compared to Neuvillette.
    7:55 Oh, it is insignificant. a measly 5% increase to team DPS is absolutely nothing, even more so when only one character is dealing the majority of team DPS. you're already oversaturate your DMG% (80% on average from C1 Furina, 40% from Xilonen, 30% from 750 EM Kazuha, 42% from Signature weapon, 15% from 4pc MH, 46.6% from Hydro Goblet, 16% from Freedom Sworn. so that's 269.6 DMG% in total) to the point where 25.6% from Peak Patrol Song is an abysmal increase in DPS.

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      Yeah I considered the 3rd stack situation and I even mentioned the zhongli team while recording but I may have edited it out I’ll have to rewatch the video. The Neuvi team with Barbra was the team I used the most though, so the difference between my old team and my new team is exactly what I showed in this video. I’m still a teeny tiny CC, if you’re looking for exact calculations I’m sure you know all the best theory crafters , Zajeff, iWintoLose, TGS and so on. Maybe one day I’ll learn how to do the exact numbers, but for now I just like playing with my gear and seeing the differences in game.

    • @nanathedelta8561
      @nanathedelta8561 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@HazeyImpact Oh, I know. I'm not trying to go hard on you. its just a little correction, that's all. you have to understand that Genshin is still first and foremost a gacha game. and misinformation often being part of the hype and FOMOs. which is something I'd like for everyone to avoid.
      I'm very well aware that you are tiny CC and you probably did not delve further into TC world. I means.. you stated it yourself that you are not a professional Genshin player, which I respect your honesty. but I want you to do better. keep in mind that many big CC or even TCers made mistake just like you before. they had people come to correct them, they learned from the mistake and better themselves. I'm a TCer myself. I made mistake hundreds of times too, I'm not as good as big TCers but I always make sure that I learn from my mistake. its a good mindset to have, you know ?
      And yes, I do watch Zajef and TGS. two years ago, a TCer from KQM recommended me to watch Zajef when I started my TC journey. however, I do not watch IWTL because I find his video to be very misleading, his methodology is also questionable. but yeah, I usually just do calc and playtest character on my own and then peer-check with other TCer's works.

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      You said Xilonen is not broken, but followed that up immediately with she’s a very strong character. So what would you consider to be “broken”? It seems like Neuvi would be considered “broken” bc it seems like they can’t release a new support without it being a big upgrade for him. Also I personally think Xilonen is worth the hype. She has kazuha level buffs, she can buff geo, and heal. She’s just really really good and I don’t think many players that pull her would regret it.

    • @nanathedelta8561
      @nanathedelta8561 Месяц назад

      @@HazeyImpact A character being strong doesnt necessary mean they are broken. even I dont think C0R0 Neuvillette is broken but he's on that borderline for sure. ehhhh, I guess you can make an argument that Neuvillette is broken for super super casual player. because.. well, he is to them. no joking !
      Now, let me explain why I think C0R0 Neuvilette is borderline broken. first, we have to understand how Genshin team design a character. most character in Genshin Impact are designed with trade-off in mind. they will give something to the character and then remove something from them. a good example of this would be Ayato VS Neuvilette (since they share the same archetype design)
      Ayato's power budget went to his elemental skill. it is his bread and butter. easy to pilot, have a massive range. but it comes with a cost of him doing weaker output, being stationary while attacking (trade off some damage for simplicity,) and having weaker burst (high energy cost, underwhelming damage to balance his skill power budget and hydro application).
      Then you look at Neuvillette, you realize it wasn't the case for him. all of his power budget went to his CA. easy to pilot, have a virtually infinite attack range. he didn't trade off anything like Ayato. he gets to keep his good damage, he can move during his attack, he can sustain himself. this is what make Neuvillette stands out from the rest of the roster. he doesn't have any weakness like any other character. basically, he's the result of an intern who are new to designing a character, then release to the live version without peer-checking. so now Hoyo are stuck in the state where Neuvillette hold the entire meta a hostage. its not that his damage is the best, its the fact that his lack of gameplay issue, the lack of weakness combined with his unrivaled simplicity and practicality that give him a huge advantage over other character. the only thing that stop Neuvillette from being broken for me is his DPS. if he performs like.. 80K at C0R0. then yeah, he's definitely on my broken list for sure.
      Now, lets talk about perspective from others. when people look at Neuvillette, they often look at him at C0R1 or even C1R1. which is not how we usually evaluate characters. 5 stars character should be evaluated at C0R0. C0R0 Neuvillette's performance is high-end, without a doubt but its not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. around ~67k-68k, IIRC. its good but its nothing crazy. the 73k-80k DPS that people often saw in the spreadsheet has an assumption that Neuvilette is on R1 Sac Jade. which is impossible for F2P to get.
      I get that some people want to pull for signature weapon and constellation, and I get that it is possible for F2P player to save up their resources for those premium stuff. if anyone want to do those, then I'm not going to stop them, of course. but I'd rather prefer everything to be evaluate at C0R0. I don't want to advocate C0R1 or C1R1 to be the norm like CN community. don't get me wrong, TC community opens arm to everyone, whetever they are F2P, dolphin or whale. we even do TC for dolphin and whale stuff but let's be real, we cant deny that the majority of people are F2P and a lot of them are children and young teenage. the last thing we want for them is to feed them FOMOs and gambling habit.

    • @nanathedelta8561
      @nanathedelta8561 Месяц назад

      @@HazeyImpact As for Xilonen, I dont disagree with you that Xilonen is worth the hype. she's that strong, yes, but not to the point of overhyping, you know ? FOMOs is part of Hoyo's monetization. it is not healthy for the young audiences, and I think it is very unethical. I cant stress enough of how many people in the discord saying "I want to save for Mavuika but Ive heard that Xilonen is very strong". yeah, this is exactly what I meant. its really disheartening. considering that Genshin is not difficult enough to warrent the best of the best but people want it anyway because of FOMOs.
      Xilonen, just like any other characters, have nuances. she can be downgrade, sidegrade or even upgrade to some team. depends on what you have but as for the general rule, she seems to be more of a sidegrade than an upgrade. and of course, you can use both of them together but those team are only available to few character, notably Neuvilette and Arlecchino (assuming high investment)
      Everything in genshin impact is heavily dependent on individual. what is the level of investment? what do they have in their roster? how skill the player is ? what is the enemy lineup in the abyss ? what kind of content are they up against ? the first step in figuring out what's best for you is to know what condition applies. context matters when its come to Genshin's meta as this game is a very complex game (its the reason why I fell in love with Genshin's combat system. its a game for everyone, casual, tryhard or even technical player).
      For example, if someone want to consider Xilonen for Neuvilette. here are the question that they should ask themselves
      1) Do I have Neuvilette C1 ? If yes, then she's an upgrade. if not, refer to question number 2
      2) Am I skill enough to play him without RES interruption ? If yes, then Xilonen can be an upgrade. if no, then she isnt an upgrade
      3) Do I already reach the DPS breakpoint ? If yes, then getting Xilonen wont do anything other than make your clear faster (which might not even be noticeable, it is noticeable in the current abyss because they intentionally put high RES enemy in this abyss to sell Xilonen. the enemy are also not capable of being grouped by suction, which heavily favor Xilonen over Kazuha) if no, then Xilonen can be an upgrade.
      4) I love Neuvilette so much and I really really really want to upgrade him and I dont care about Xilonen in other team. should I ? If yes and I'm ready to commit myself to Neuvilette. then no, pulling for Neuvilette's constellation or signature weapon would result in more DPS than pulling for Xilonen. If unsure, refer to question 5
      5) Do I have enough money to go for both Xilonen and Neuvilette's premium ? if no, go for the Neuvilette premium, if yes, then go ham with credit card (at the end of the day, it is not my money. I cant tell you what to do with your money but please spend wisely)

  • @GR0BLER
    @GR0BLER Месяц назад +1

    upload more genshin impact please

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      We will! Genshin is still the gacha GOAT!

  • @prabeshshrestha205
    @prabeshshrestha205 Месяц назад +2

    why crit circlet not def ?

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      Well at first I was going to run her on Fav, and you want a little bit of CR so Fav procs reliably, but the circlet has a lot of Def% and ER. So I just left it. Having more Def will only make her heal more at this point and she already is healing a lot even at talent lvl 6 which I plan to lvl to at least 8 and then she’ll be healing even more. So that’s my reasoning lol. I might change it eventually it’s just not a huge priority.

    • @theelitesquad9650
      @theelitesquad9650 Месяц назад

      Because her buff is actually tied to her talent not her defence. As long as you level up her talent you will get max buff even at low defense. Extra defense is for healing so if you need more healing then add defense or else you can use whatever needed like crit rate here for favonius

    • @HazeyImpact
      @HazeyImpact  Месяц назад

      @@theelitesquad9650 well said 🙏🏻

    • @theelitesquad9650
      @theelitesquad9650 Месяц назад

      @@HazeyImpact yeah and even if they want more healing I am pretty sure healing bonus would be better than defence