This was an amazing video! I used it as a reference to pick my Verge N8 :) the x11 was waaaay over my budget. Also the creaking information was super helpful!! I was scared when my bike was creaking after a week, but cleaning + grease fixed it :) Cheers man
Pretty happy with it so far, was skeptical at first considering my road conditions (Potholes, bumps, grave), but this bike has turned out to be pretty solid! Likes: - Cheap spares (Claris gears, v brakes etc) - Comfortable geometry, feels like a hybrid bike - Light weight (11.5kg) compared to the competition - Enough gearing for city use even though it's a 1x8 Dislikes: - Rim replacement might be costly in the future? Not aware about the prices - The creaking from the frame every now and then drives me mad. Can fix it with your suggestion though (Cloth & grease) - Stability when folded is surely not good
@@nawaal4452 The GAMECHANGER for the N8 is change out the wheel set for a litepro 451set. And the crankset for a litepro 58 tooth set. Run Schwalbe durano 1.1 inch racegaurd tyres. Now you Have a bike on par with the P10 without the overkill of the hydraulic breaks. And cheaper. Your top end speed will rise by 2 to 4 miles an hour. Regarding any creaking in the frame and folding joints. Nothing beats olive oil. I've used it for years on all my bikes. And the creaking will cease permanently.
Thank you so much for a great review and i'm also inspired by your trail riding on this bike :-) If I wanted more 'offroad-ish' tires, what would you recommend? You said a name at the very end, but I can't make it out. Also, any 'tuning' or maintenance tips now that you've owned the bike for well over a year. Thanks again!
Good review! I've a verge x11 as well, and I've never used it off road as well. Only on well paved city roads, seeing you drive it on gravel and such really made me a lot more confident about mine. I have to disagree with your opinion on the disc brakes though. It saved me from so many crashes and near accidents. The disc brakes are so powerful and responsive. My cycle buddy and I had to suddenly brake when an incoming cyclist went down the wrong lane past a bend, my disc brakes saved me from a crash by inches, but my buddy couldn't stop in time with rim brakes and broke his arm during the accident. My only gripe about this bike is that it's so hard to find tyres for it. No one really makes 28-451 size tyres. Even schwalbe phased out the Duranos and the pro ones
I can't disagree here. The way you've said it had me recall several instances where I stopped on the spot and avoided an accident. Regarding the tires, you are exactly correct. I'd say that Duranos are pretty solid, after all the abuse there's still plenty of life left in them. As I mentioned in other comments, currently I ride on "Maxxis DHT BMX Wired Tire 120HP Dual - 20 inch" and they are fabulous. I strongly recommend them.
@@foldingbikeadventures1125 thanks very much for your tyre recommendation! Looks like a good alternative for off road riding . Keep up the great reviews on the Verge x11 and how you use the bike on a daily basis
You can still get 451 tyres online. But if its that much of a concern. You can get it's older cousin. The X10 or P9. They have traditional 406 20 inch wheels and are fast bikes. Especially the X10. Which only weighs 21lbs.
Thank you very much (i mean it) for the super honest and in depth review, didn't expect to see anyone film it under off road settings. Most extreme review of this road folder out there for sure ^^ I live in France and own a D9, was wondering if i should sell it and maybe get this one instead (for weight and transmission issues mainly), but yeah maybe too much carbon on that model even though you proved it's strong off road. Guess i'll just upgrade my D9 with better components in the long term...
I also went for Tern Verge N8. That was the only one available locally in a premium category. All the criticism of X11 is actually answered by this N8. Gear range on cassette is 11-32 instead of an extra wide 10-42 but shifting is smooth and doesn't need a chain guide. I however wished the gear range was 11-36 9 speed as I think that would provide an extra low range to climb really steep slopes. N8 stock tyres are bald Schwalbe Kojak 35-406 and while I have done some gravel riding on it, your video provides encouragement to be more adventurous. I have done 100 km group rides and it was far more comfortable than I originally imagined. Thanks for your excellent video.
I have the N8 too it's PERFECTION. Especially for the money. You can change out the rear cassette for an 11 to 36 tooth one very easily. I did this and its now the perfect bike for less than an X11 or P10. Can hit 25mph. And pretty comfortable. The ugrades I made on it. We're biologic hand grips a litepro 54 tooth crankset. And a shimano 11--36 8 speed rear cassette. And Schwalbe durano 1.1 racegaurd tires. And a carbon seatpost and Ergon GMC gel saddle. And it's perfect. It shifts. And climbs hills like a dream. At a new weight of 22.9lbs.
Sorry I can't quite hear the last part, replace tire with what kind? I'm currently using Tannus airless tires on my X11 but doesn't seem to roll well compared to my Verge X20 and even Link D8 (Even after tune up from Tern bike shop)
I bought the P10 last june for my commute as i didnt want to lay out the BIG bucks for the X11. First time back on a bike in 30 years. Come rain or shine i look forward to the ride. The Tern 451 Fenders do a good job but sometimes slide out of shape. The only real criticism of the bike I have is that changing gear can sometimes cause the chain to come off. I'm not sure if the cassette is a little worn and wonder if upgrading from the Deore to the SRAM XG-1150 would be a good move and can be easily done. Im no bike expert to say the least!
@@Nagual73 The X11 is a work of art. Arguably the best folding bike ever made. What Ferrari is to cars. The X11 is to folding bikes. I've ridden 3 verges in my time. The P9. The N8 and the X11 which my friend owns. And the X11 is in a class of its own. You understand what you are paying for after you ride one. Its so smooth and effortless. I took it on a 7 mile commute to my place of work. A route that my bike computer tells me is 85% uphill. On the N8 the journey would take me an average of 27--29 minutes depending on headwind. On the X11 it took me 25 minutes. And it felt so easy on the hills. Like you are floating up them. And on the flats and decents. My gosh you fly. I was going over 25 miles an hour without even trying. And my work colleagues were asking me where did I get this bike from. Its such a beautiful machine
3lbs of weight and a whole lot of top end components. The frame is the same. What makes the X11 more efficient and faster is the pro X wheel set and hollow tech carbon crankset. Which is more EFFICIENT Than the FSA crankset with square taper on the P10. I've ridden both over the same 5 mile course. And my average speed, top speed and time on the X11 was better. By nearly 2 minutes. The X11 climbs hills like a boss.
I liked your video however I live in Cornwall in the UK with extremely steep climbs and although I cannot change the rear cassette I'm changing to a 50t front chainring as I've been stuck in first and also had to get off and walk a few times also I'll not miss the top 2 or 3 gears as flat out speed is not my thing and the 50t should help me use them more. Having done a few trails now I'm going to change my tyres to kenda small block 8 in 37mm which will be better to protect the wheels and give me better grip in light mud hardpack grass etc with a little better comfort for all day trails and coast paths. I also have a cane creek LT suspension seat post on my bike which has made a massive difference recommend Cheers Matthew
Thanks for your Review. Helped me a Lot. I wanted the X11 but got the Verge P10 for daily commuting 10 km. The reason is, it's cheaper to maintain. But it's a nice bike and really fast on streets.
Great reviews. I'm split between between getting the Verge X11 or the S8i. Although I don't commute, the S8i would seem better for riding off road trails especially with the Scwalbe big apple tyres. It also offers extras like lights, rack and fenders as part of the package and priced about £500 less than the x11. However I love the aesthetics of the x11 and by changing the tyres I could still ride off road trails mixed with road (typically country lanes).What do you think?
While I do that, I'd like to discourage you. Unless you have a very strong body you'll start feeling pain in your wrists, ankles, and lower back. For what you described above, just a regular cross country bike will do grand. However, if you want it to be a folding bike, Link or S8i would be acceptable options, their tires are fat. Let me know once you choose something. :)
Thank you for an amazing review! I'm a big fan of folding bikes and I've been riding a Dahon Hemingway D8 for the past two years. Although I'd love to have a Tern X11, I'm more than satisfied with my bike and its entry level components, which I can upgrade if I need to, so I agree with you regarding some "overkill" components. Well, any bike is a frame and if it's a good one, you can make whatever you want from it :) The only upgrade I'm planning is switching to 451 wheel set and disk brakes, my rim brakes are not so reliable in wet/dusty conditions.
Short answer is yes. Currently I ride on "Maxxis DHT BMX Wired Tire 120HP Dual - 20 inch" and they are fabulous. I strongly recommend them. Most accidents I've had were due to poor grip on the hardpack. In the video (mark 2:15) you can see that I fell down again and I finally had decided to buy proper tires. However, if you are to ride on a proper road, the Duranos are pretty solid tires. If you have other question, more than happy to help.
@@savethenurse 3/8" 37-451. Basically, they are the same size as the original ones, but are softer and are inflated less. I was expecting them to be somewhat bigger and was quite confused when I'd opened the package.
Hai, im just wondering, im planning to get X11. Is it possible, or is it difficult to upgrade with Front Derailleur? And what FD and shifter do u recommend?
Nice, beautiful bike. How’s doing? I just bought the s8i and waiting the delivery. Cost me even the same this costed to you. You should try the Schwalbe Marathon Plus, great tires and for the tracks you are running seems to fit better that the ones. Great video, thanks.
Get the X11 all day. It blows people away because its so fast and yet small. And this baby climbs hills like they are nothing. There's a hill where I live that used to kill me on my cheap folder. The X11 floats up it.
@@fender1000100 Hi from UK, I noticed your comments on the x11 and x20 in other videos, may I ask for your advice on whether you would recommend the x11 or a secondhand x20?
Hi Asimov, I can't really tell like that. Can you let me know where and how you plan to ride the bike? Also, what's your budget? I mean, if that amount is "pocket money" for you, why not, go for it. It will last for ages with basic maintenance.
The X11 is at the top end of my budget. What is the difference between a Deore and P105 in terms of ride quality? I will be using it mainly to commute to work - mostly roads with some hills which are max 8% inclines. The roads do have quite a number of potholes... and I don't know how to bunny hop. I am considering installing the Tern rapid transit rack so that I don't have to carry my bag on my shoulders. Probably going to destroy the aesthetics of the bike. I noticed the Bromptons have front loading carriers. Do you know if front is more stable than rear for folding bikes? Thanks!!
i have the tern eclipse x22 with the 26in wheels and love it but when it breaks down i might get this one, it looks more compact to carry on the train/bus but has same performance as my tern x22 👌
when commuting its great not to come out of the seat when climbing hills, thats when using the 36t and 42t come into play. Its also a low maintenance bike compared to the dahon bike I had before with rim brakes. I have discovered revolube.co.uk, it really works. The 451 fenders are hardly noticeable and kept me dry in the rain. Disc brakes(first time using) are a blessing compared to rim brakes and so much easier to clean. Really can't fault it , I was even able to keep pace with some local cyclists (in all their gear when I was wearing running sandals.
Thank you for sharing, Rob! Indeed, very low maintenance. Yesterday was the first time I took it apart for proper cleaning, and it's been through a lot. Can you share with us what fenders are you using? Thanks 🙂
Wow! You use your bike with that for gravel? , i own verge n8 and yes it is very robust and stiff folding bike, but i never going off roas with it haha
Ah, the N8 is lovely. All thing that I don't like in the Verge x11 are fixed in the N8. But yeah, I'm beating the life out of the bike and I'm not disappointed. :P
Even I have N8 :D The Schwalbe Kojak's are too slick for gravel hahaha, I never dare. But they see a lot of bad roads in my city. I pity the bike because it sees a lot of potholes every day!
@@urbancyclingrevolution7575 p20? Back in the day I had to choose between x11 and p20. Tell me about it, how does it feel? Can you take advantage of all the gears you have? I decided to go with the x11, because climbing with 20" tires is FAR easier than with 29" (as on my MTB), so I thought that I don't need that many gears. I'd love to see what you have to say about the p20. Thank you :)
Folding Bike Adventures i think you are referring to the x20 which is almost as expensive as the x11.. x20 is using 406 while the x11 is 451.. x11 has disc brake while the x20 is using v brake.. i guess you cant go wrong between the two.. my P20 has entry level parts so everything was replaced exept the frame
@@urbancyclingrevolution7575 actually it was p20. Back then the price wasn't a deciding factor, I was looking at the long term investment in the bike. Anyway, it seems like you found your bike :)
I love the Tern X11. I test rode one a few weeks ago. I'd love for Tern to make a high-end super lightweight Titanium X11. No cheap aluminum. No cheap plastic. Tern has to come up with an answer to the Brompton T-Line.
I have the x10 and is way sexier than this one. Bc of my 50t chainring, I can keep up with most regular sized bikes, it’s fast. And pretty comfortable while bile 20 miles multiple days.
Nothing is sexier than a silver X11. I have people stopping me on a daily to ask me wtf is this. And when you move 28mph on a folder. Roadies start paying you respect.
Hi Frank, back then there were no P series, at least I couldn't find any in Europe. Also, I really wanted the best money can buy which came down to "x11 or x20." If I were to give advise, "P" series are a far better value for the money spent.
This was an amazing video! I used it as a reference to pick my Verge N8 :) the x11 was waaaay over my budget. Also the creaking information was super helpful!! I was scared when my bike was creaking after a week, but cleaning + grease fixed it :) Cheers man
So happy to hear that this was useful. How's the N8? Are you enjoying it? :)
Pretty happy with it so far, was skeptical at first considering my road conditions (Potholes, bumps, grave), but this bike has turned out to be pretty solid!
Likes:
- Cheap spares (Claris gears, v brakes etc)
- Comfortable geometry, feels like a hybrid bike
- Light weight (11.5kg) compared to the competition
- Enough gearing for city use even though it's a 1x8
Dislikes:
- Rim replacement might be costly in the future? Not aware about the prices
- The creaking from the frame every now and then drives me mad. Can fix it with your suggestion though (Cloth & grease)
- Stability when folded is surely not good
@@nawaal4452
The GAMECHANGER for the N8 is change out the wheel set for a litepro 451set. And the crankset for a litepro 58 tooth set. Run Schwalbe durano 1.1 inch racegaurd tyres. Now you Have a bike on par with the P10 without the overkill of the hydraulic breaks. And cheaper. Your top end speed will rise by 2 to 4 miles an hour.
Regarding any creaking in the frame and folding joints. Nothing beats olive oil. I've used it for years on all my bikes. And the creaking will cease permanently.
Great review, now I can stop dreaming about upgrading from my Link D8 which I have been totally happy with.
I could sense honesty in your reviews. Thank u for such useful guidance. God bless u
Thank you so much for a great review and i'm also inspired by your trail riding on this bike :-) If I wanted more 'offroad-ish' tires, what would you recommend? You said a name at the very end, but I can't make it out.
Also, any 'tuning' or maintenance tips now that you've owned the bike for well over a year.
Thanks again!
Good review! I've a verge x11 as well, and I've never used it off road as well. Only on well paved city roads, seeing you drive it on gravel and such really made me a lot more confident about mine.
I have to disagree with your opinion on the disc brakes though. It saved me from so many crashes and near accidents. The disc brakes are so powerful and responsive. My cycle buddy and I had to suddenly brake when an incoming cyclist went down the wrong lane past a bend, my disc brakes saved me from a crash by inches, but my buddy couldn't stop in time with rim brakes and broke his arm during the accident.
My only gripe about this bike is that it's so hard to find tyres for it. No one really makes 28-451 size tyres. Even schwalbe phased out the Duranos and the pro ones
I can't disagree here. The way you've said it had me recall several instances where I stopped on the spot and avoided an accident.
Regarding the tires, you are exactly correct. I'd say that Duranos are pretty solid, after all the abuse there's still plenty of life left in them.
As I mentioned in other comments, currently I ride on "Maxxis DHT BMX Wired Tire 120HP Dual - 20 inch" and they are fabulous. I strongly recommend them.
@@foldingbikeadventures1125 thanks very much for your tyre recommendation! Looks like a good alternative for off road riding . Keep up the great reviews on the Verge x11 and how you use the bike on a daily basis
You can still get 451 tyres online. But if its that much of a concern. You can get it's older cousin. The X10 or P9. They have traditional 406 20 inch wheels and are fast bikes. Especially the X10. Which only weighs 21lbs.
Thank you very much (i mean it) for the super honest and in depth review, didn't expect to see anyone film it under off road settings. Most extreme review of this road folder out there for sure ^^
I live in France and own a D9, was wondering if i should sell it and maybe get this one instead (for weight and transmission issues mainly), but yeah maybe too much carbon on that model even though you proved it's strong off road. Guess i'll just upgrade my D9 with better components in the long term...
I also went for Tern Verge N8. That was the only one available locally in a premium category. All the criticism of X11 is actually answered by this N8. Gear range on cassette is 11-32 instead of an extra wide 10-42 but shifting is smooth and doesn't need a chain guide. I however wished the gear range was 11-36 9 speed as I think that would provide an extra low range to climb really steep slopes. N8 stock tyres are bald Schwalbe Kojak 35-406 and while I have done some gravel riding on it, your video provides encouragement to be more adventurous. I have done 100 km group rides and it was far more comfortable than I originally imagined. Thanks for your excellent video.
I have the N8 too it's PERFECTION. Especially for the money. You can change out the rear cassette for an 11 to 36 tooth one very easily. I did this and its now the perfect bike for less than an X11 or P10. Can hit 25mph. And pretty comfortable. The ugrades I made on it. We're biologic hand grips a litepro 54 tooth crankset. And a shimano 11--36 8 speed rear cassette. And Schwalbe durano 1.1 racegaurd tires. And a carbon seatpost and Ergon GMC gel saddle. And it's perfect. It shifts. And climbs hills like a dream. At a new weight of 22.9lbs.
Sorry I can't quite hear the last part, replace tire with what kind? I'm currently using Tannus airless tires on my X11 but doesn't seem to roll well compared to my Verge X20 and even Link D8 (Even after tune up from Tern bike shop)
I bought the P10 last june for my commute as i didnt want to lay out the BIG bucks for the X11. First time back on a bike in 30 years. Come rain or shine i look forward to the ride. The Tern 451 Fenders do a good job but sometimes slide out of shape. The only real criticism of the bike I have is that changing gear can sometimes cause the chain to come off. I'm not sure if the cassette is a little worn and wonder if upgrading from the Deore to the SRAM XG-1150 would be a good move and can be easily done. Im no bike expert to say the least!
New chain. New cassette. Rides like a dream again. If the X11 is even better than this perhaps I’ll start saving 🤔😂
@@Nagual73
The X11 is a work of art. Arguably the best folding bike ever made. What Ferrari is to cars. The X11 is to folding bikes. I've ridden 3 verges in my time. The P9. The N8 and the X11 which my friend owns. And the X11 is in a class of its own.
You understand what you are paying for after you ride one. Its so smooth and effortless. I took it on a 7 mile commute to my place of work. A route that my bike computer tells me is 85% uphill. On the N8 the journey would take me an average of 27--29 minutes depending on headwind. On the X11 it took me 25 minutes.
And it felt so easy on the hills. Like you are floating up them. And on the flats and decents. My gosh you fly. I was going over 25 miles an hour without even trying. And my work colleagues were asking me where did I get this bike from. Its such a beautiful machine
This is a good video mate. Very informative
Great review! Where do you buy tires for 451 wheels?
Ordered chunkier tyres and mudguards for mine. Thanks for the review.
You'll enjoy it a lot. Also, the fatter tires will provide you with a somewhat more comfortable ride. and excellent choice. Happy cycling!
Is there a big performance difference between the P10 and the X11 versions?
I have the same question as I am on the fence between P10 ($1600) and X11 ($2700). What are the most significant differences?
3lbs of weight and a whole lot of top end components. The frame is the same. What makes the X11 more efficient and faster is the pro X wheel set and hollow tech carbon crankset. Which is more EFFICIENT Than the FSA crankset with square taper on the P10. I've ridden both over the same 5 mile course. And my average speed, top speed and time on the X11 was better. By nearly 2 minutes. The X11 climbs hills like a boss.
I liked your video however I live in Cornwall in the UK with extremely steep climbs and although I cannot change the rear cassette I'm changing to a 50t front chainring as I've been stuck in first and also had to get off and walk a few times also I'll not miss the top 2 or 3 gears as flat out speed is not my thing and the 50t should help me use them more. Having done a few trails now I'm going to change my tyres to kenda small block 8 in 37mm which will be better to protect the wheels and give me better grip in light mud hardpack grass etc with a little better comfort for all day trails and coast paths. I also have a cane creek LT suspension seat post on my bike which has made a massive difference recommend
Cheers Matthew
Thanks for sharing, Matthew. Let us know how the 50t chain ring feels once you've got enough experience.
Happy riding! :)
Good news, Brompton just released the same bike called G-line :)
Thanks for the review.
Thanks for your Review.
Helped me a Lot.
I wanted the X11 but got the Verge P10 for daily commuting 10 km.
The reason is, it's cheaper to maintain.
But it's a nice bike and really fast on streets.
Waiting for the P10,,, How do you like it in general? Are the disc brakes too sensitive? How light/heavey/easy it to transport ?
Great reviews. I'm split between between getting the Verge X11 or the S8i. Although I don't commute, the S8i would seem better for riding off road trails especially with the Scwalbe big apple tyres. It also offers extras like lights, rack and fenders as part of the package and priced about £500 less than the x11. However I love the aesthetics of the x11 and by changing the tyres I could still ride off road trails mixed with road (typically country lanes).What do you think?
While I do that, I'd like to discourage you. Unless you have a very strong body you'll start feeling pain in your wrists, ankles, and lower back.
For what you described above, just a regular cross country bike will do grand.
However, if you want it to be a folding bike, Link or S8i would be acceptable options, their tires are fat.
Let me know once you choose something. :)
Thank you for an amazing review! I'm a big fan of folding bikes and I've been riding a Dahon Hemingway D8 for the past two years. Although I'd love to have a Tern X11, I'm more than satisfied with my bike and its entry level components, which I can upgrade if I need to, so I agree with you regarding some "overkill" components. Well, any bike is a frame and if it's a good one, you can make whatever you want from it :) The only upgrade I'm planning is switching to 451 wheel set and disk brakes, my rim brakes are not so reliable in wet/dusty conditions.
Instablaster...
What's the difference between this bike and the tern verge x11 2021.
Have you changed your tire for gravel road?
Short answer is yes. Currently I ride on "Maxxis DHT BMX Wired Tire 120HP Dual - 20 inch" and they are fabulous. I strongly recommend them.
Most accidents I've had were due to poor grip on the hardpack. In the video (mark 2:15) you can see that I fell down again and I finally had decided to buy proper tires.
However, if you are to ride on a proper road, the Duranos are pretty solid tires.
If you have other question, more than happy to help.
@@foldingbikeadventures1125 Thank you!!!!!!
@@foldingbikeadventures1125 what size do you use btw? It has 28-451 and 37-451
@@savethenurse 3/8" 37-451. Basically, they are the same size as the original ones, but are softer and are inflated less.
I was expecting them to be somewhat bigger and was quite confused when I'd opened the package.
What is the refund policy?
Hai, im just wondering, im planning to get X11. Is it possible, or is it difficult to upgrade with Front Derailleur?
And what FD and shifter do u recommend?
If you think of getting a front derailleur, I'd recommend you buying the Verge x20, it comes with it out of the box. Happy riding :)
Nice, beautiful bike. How’s doing? I just bought the s8i and waiting the delivery. Cost me even the same this costed to you. You should try the Schwalbe Marathon Plus, great tires and for the tracks you are running seems to fit better that the ones. Great video, thanks.
Awesome video man! I'm torn between this one and the slightly larger Eclipse x22. What would be your take?
Get the X11 all day. It blows people away because its so fast and yet small. And this baby climbs hills like they are nothing. There's a hill where I live that used to kill me on my cheap folder. The X11 floats up it.
@@fender1000100 Hi from UK, I noticed your comments on the x11 and x20 in other videos, may I ask for your advice on whether you would recommend the x11 or a secondhand x20?
How can one get this bike in Australia?
Would you recommend getting a P10 instead? Deore groupset with disc breaks.
Hi Asimov, I can't really tell like that. Can you let me know where and how you plan to ride the bike?
Also, what's your budget? I mean, if that amount is "pocket money" for you, why not, go for it. It will last for ages with basic maintenance.
The X11 is at the top end of my budget. What is the difference between a Deore and P105 in terms of ride quality? I will be using it mainly to commute to work - mostly roads with some hills which are max 8% inclines. The roads do have quite a number of potholes... and I don't know how to bunny hop. I am considering installing the Tern rapid transit rack so that I don't have to carry my bag on my shoulders. Probably going to destroy the aesthetics of the bike. I noticed the Bromptons have front loading carriers. Do you know if front is more stable than rear for folding bikes? Thanks!!
Very good review!
Anyway the bike is crazy expensive, why not getting the Eclipse X22 that costs pretty much the same and has 26 inches wheels?
Mine doesn't fall over. Maybe because it's the 2021 version?
Thank you! This might be my next bike
Would be a great choice. Let me know once you decide. I'd love to hear what are your first impressions on the bike! :)
i have the tern eclipse x22 with the 26in wheels and love it but when it breaks down i might get this one, it looks more compact to carry on the train/bus but has same performance as my tern x22 👌
I'm quite happy with how compact this bike is. How's the x22 been so far?
when commuting its great not to come out of the seat when climbing hills, thats when using the 36t and 42t come into play. Its also a low maintenance bike compared to the dahon bike I had before with rim brakes. I have discovered revolube.co.uk, it really works. The 451 fenders are hardly noticeable and kept me dry in the rain. Disc brakes(first time using) are a blessing compared to rim brakes and so much easier to clean. Really can't fault it , I was even able to keep pace with some local cyclists (in all their gear when I was wearing running sandals.
Thank you for sharing, Rob! Indeed, very low maintenance. Yesterday was the first time I took it apart for proper cleaning, and it's been through a lot.
Can you share with us what fenders are you using? Thanks 🙂
I am using the tern 451 performance fenders
@@hoyfrob thank you, Rob.
just going over your video again mine cost me £2100 bought in May 2020
Where did you get this bike?
Bought it from England. They are quite difficult to find in Europe.
Wow! You use your bike with that for gravel? , i own verge n8 and yes it is very robust and stiff folding bike, but i never going off roas with it haha
Ah, the N8 is lovely. All thing that I don't like in the Verge x11 are fixed in the N8.
But yeah, I'm beating the life out of the bike and I'm not disappointed. :P
Even I have N8 :D The Schwalbe Kojak's are too slick for gravel hahaha, I never dare. But they see a lot of bad roads in my city. I pity the bike because it sees a lot of potholes every day!
The best
Very good bike
nice bike
The bike is amazing, I absolutely love it! Is that Verge x30h on your picture?
Folding Bike Adventures .. I have two Terns. a verge x30 and a polished verge p20 upgraded to 22 speed
@@urbancyclingrevolution7575 p20? Back in the day I had to choose between x11 and p20. Tell me about it, how does it feel? Can you take advantage of all the gears you have?
I decided to go with the x11, because climbing with 20" tires is FAR easier than with 29" (as on my MTB), so I thought that I don't need that many gears. I'd love to see what you have to say about the p20.
Thank you :)
Folding Bike Adventures i think you are referring to the x20 which is almost as expensive as the x11.. x20 is using 406 while the x11 is 451.. x11 has disc brake while the x20 is using v brake.. i guess you cant go wrong between the two.. my P20 has entry level parts so everything was replaced exept the frame
@@urbancyclingrevolution7575 actually it was p20. Back then the price wasn't a deciding factor, I was looking at the long term investment in the bike. Anyway, it seems like you found your bike :)
I love the Tern X11. I test rode one a few weeks ago. I'd love for Tern to make a high-end super lightweight Titanium X11. No cheap aluminum. No cheap plastic. Tern has to come up with an answer to the Brompton T-Line.
I have the x10 and is way sexier than this one. Bc of my 50t chainring, I can keep up with most regular sized bikes, it’s fast. And pretty comfortable while bile 20 miles multiple days.
Nothing is sexier than a silver X11. I have people stopping me on a daily to ask me wtf is this. And when you move 28mph on a folder. Roadies start paying you respect.
So Mr obvious here asks why not Verge P10? Still large gear range. But maybe better value. Tires. Tires. Tires.
Hi Frank, back then there were no P series, at least I couldn't find any in Europe. Also, I really wanted the best money can buy which came down to "x11 or x20."
If I were to give advise, "P" series are a far better value for the money spent.
Tires on the P10 are better right?
@@Slapstudiosjp They are not better, but they are more accessible. I mean that you have minimal choice of tires for 451.
It's like you beating up the bike and bike says 'Give me more'
Convert it to drop bar
You could buy thr p10
What do you do for a living? Youre crazy for using that beauty for offroads. Lol
I'm an English teacher. Indeed, I'm nut for riding it off road but the bike is robust. After all that beating it's still sound.
Porque engañan en las especificaciones de esta bicicleta dice que tiene 10 kilos y es pura mentira porque está pesa 11,2 kilos
Birdy dude...i have the Birdy....its perfect all around..but not soo sexy like the X11
@Marcel Cristiano searching for making money...will send you to prison
Off road? Wow
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I'm a Slav :)