That 80 Series looks so sweet. Kudos to the owner of that LX570. Very brave to tackle the rolling hill challenge while still sporting its OEM plastic bumpers. Very lucky neither (front & rear) where damaged or ripped off.
I usually drive my 99 Land Cruiser in the desert southwest, it does extremely well with Yokohama G015 16 in. The only thing I did was change the problematic 2 pinion front differential with the 03-07 4 pinion. I have no tuned off road suspension, only the stock ride height.
Great video. I think it's worth noting that the obstacle was getting worse after every vehicle as they dug down to clear that rock shelf. But still, it's a good demo of what bigger tires and lockers can do for you.
I thought the same. Path was trash for the Land Cruisers and completely trashed by the time the Lexus rigs came through. Should have had a Land Cruiser come through at the end to see if it could make it up. The Land Cruisers did make it up the icy stretch easier though.
@@sl-salmeans theres back Differential looker mid locker from the transfer-case and front differential locker, this all means that the truck can basically climb a wall makes it a tank or tractor nothing can stop it
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Any idea what tire pressure the LX570 was running? Didn't see much deformation in his tires. Would be interesting to see an LX570 try this with more aggressive MT/RT tires at rock crawling pressures.
All of those LC could have gone through is u had a good spotter. U’ll discourage them not to push those rigs. As 80 series owner, I live to see these trails.
Yes- that's what I want to do to mine-- lockers front and rear.. and other custom stuff-- like an EXTRA gas tank in the wheel where the spare was to go--giving 56 gallon capacity instead of 23.. and armor protect that tank too..
Damn you, Toyota, for not making factory off-road bumper options for the GX and LX platforms! Let me rephrase that: Dear Toyota, please make off-road replacement bumpers for the GX and LX platforms because we know you'd do an amazing job at creating them! Love, your customer.
The heavier u are, the harder it is to climb. Simple physics although triple locks also plays a huge part. 2 cars passed also made the terrain harder as they dig deeper into the ground everytime they got stuck. Just my 2 cents opinion. experienced in Borneo Safari.
Shocked that even the stockish 200 series with 33’s did better on the flex test than the 80 series. The one on 35s did even better, but neither of them fully lifted a tire. The 80 on the other hand did lift. So, is the solid front axle really as much of an articulation advantage as people claim?
Totally agree. Conventional wisdom is solid axles articulate better than IFS, but that simply isn’t on display here. Are any of these rigs running with swaybars disconnected and/or have KDSS? I think the solid axle is probably still superior on true rock crawling situations where the rock faces are inclined, but on this undulating ground circumstance I think the 200’s are performing best.
As an 80 and 200 owner, I feel like these guys were not really wheeling the safe and best way for the cars. They were just sending it and using the gas to get them out of trouble. No spotters, no deflated tires, and no planned lines. Seems like some NYC bros who are not used to wheeling but have nice rigs. It’s nice to see guys out enjoying their cruisers, but I believe they would get alot better at wheeling if they slow down and choose their lines with a spotter. Expensive equipment doesn’t make you better.
Partially agree. They were all aired down, there was a spotter but not all of them decide to follow instruction and at that point I was just an observer with a camera, trust me, I want to have a close comp as much as anyone but I didn’t want to go out of my way to tell them what to do with their own vehicles.
@@4WDisLife that’s very fair. I guess they just got excited and send it up the hill. That’s how you drive a lifted old bronco or blazer but it hurts to see those beautiful cruisers just thrashed up that hill.
While it helps, it hs less to do with the suspension - and I would add that while 35s make a difference, these too weren’t the deal breakers here. The 80 and 200 series made it up because they were triple locked (front, rear and center) and tires were aggressive enough to grip on the rocks to keep traction.
The land cruiser has evolved two ways : 1. Physical size. If you park a land cruiser 80 series next to a 300 series you’d be amazed how much longer and taller (stock) the 300 series is. 2. Luxury. Let’s be honest the 80 series wasn’t that plush or flashy of a SUV. The 100 got a little dressier 200 more dressy 300 us even more. While the land cruiser trying to do two things be luxurious and the backwoods billy goat. I think they were trying to go after the Range Rover crowd however I will say I will take a Toyota any give. Day to a Range Rover. My next suv will probably be a LX600(Lexus version of the land cruiser) here in the USA they quit selling the land cruiser
@@4WDisLife All-Wheel-Drive trucks, i.e. LC80, 100 & 200, need a center diff for on-road driving. 4WD trucks use 2H for on-road driving, 4H for low traction condition and 4L for off-road; therefore, 4WDs do not need a center diff so the front axle and rear axle are connected (or locked) together in the t-case when engaging 4H or 4L. I guess Conscientious Observer means that when a AWD truck's center diff is locked, it acts like a 4WD truck in 4H or 4L.
@@4WDisLife Some LC80s have both viscous coupler and center-differential (VCD) in their t-case. The VCD acts like a limited slip device (or LSD) between front axle and rear axle. I am not familiar with Raptor, but I understand Ford builds it to be a high speed desert runner, so I guess having a limited slip device between front and rear axles would put more power on the wheels of the axle with traction when the wheels on the other axle are airborne.
@@SierraADV Well, if you want to be correct, a Land Cruiser 80 could be a FJ80, FZJ80, HJ80 and possibly other code names depending on its engine configuration. So some of us 80 owners use LC80 as shorthand for Land Cruiser 80 regardless of engine type.
@@robinfly7303 that's not "shorthand". It's "incorrect". "FJ80" is correct. "FZJ80" is correct. "HJ80" is correct. "80 series" is correct. "LC80" is not and has not ever been an accurate description for this vehicle. It's simply ignorant.
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That rolling rock hill challenge is no joke 😮. This reminds me of a more extreme version of SUV Battle with Diyas. Good stuff man!
It sure is challenging and not all the trucks and suvs are equipped to take it with out some hit.
Nothing beats a good old 80 series specially if it's triple locked 💪
Agreed
Solid axles and coils front and back. Might be best ever....between that and 1sst gen Broncos for same reason.
Even unlocked there the best vehicle👍
I have a triple locked 95
The LX570 should have tried Crawl Control vs Floor it a Hope.
That 80 Series looks so sweet. Kudos to the owner of that LX570. Very brave to tackle the rolling hill challenge while still sporting its OEM plastic bumpers. Very lucky neither (front & rear) where damaged or ripped off.
Right? I was surprised
200 series can sure take a beating! Great content!
Thanks! Land cruisers are the beast
I usually drive my 99 Land Cruiser in the desert southwest, it does extremely well with Yokohama G015 16 in. The only thing I did was change the problematic 2 pinion front differential with the 03-07 4 pinion. I have no tuned off road suspension, only the stock ride height.
Dad's here FJ 80 💪🏼
06:45 Love his triple lock window sticker!
I've watched several of your videos, I'd wheel with you all any day. Great teamwork.
I appreciate the kind words!
Great video. I think it's worth noting that the obstacle was getting worse after every vehicle as they dug down to clear that rock shelf. But still, it's a good demo of what bigger tires and lockers can do for you.
I thought the same. Path was trash for the Land Cruisers and completely trashed by the time the Lexus rigs came through. Should have had a Land Cruiser come through at the end to see if it could make it up. The Land Cruisers did make it up the icy stretch easier though.
Great vidz.Momentum is your friend. And the skinny pedal.as 570 driver demonstrated.
Yea. Sometimes it def helps
I'm sure that 100 series took it easy due to how easy it is to strip the front differential, whereas in the 200 series the cv just blows up.
Proud to have my HDJ81 VX Limited Twin Diff Lock
You should
The LX570 reminded me of an old Toyota tv commercial for their trucks in Latin America that said: “don’t drive it, beat it…TOYOTA”
haha yea I was sure it was going to break something but it didn’t
I am happy that I found your channel. However, the owner of the LX570 or any LC200 owner should manual or get educated on the crawl control features.
thank you man. Glad to be the source of your happiness today!
The award for best Landcruiser 4WD goes to the 80 series for the most affordable and highest achiever of the bunch.
80s triple locked in mint condition are 30k
@@GearmanVlogsWhat does the locked trilogy mean?
@@sl-salmeans theres back Differential looker mid locker from the transfer-case and front differential locker, this all means that the truck can basically climb a wall makes it a tank or tractor nothing can stop it
@@User33817 Thank you
hello warm greetings from Pontassieve province of Florence Italy I am the esteemed owner of a 4x4 off-road vehicle Suzuki Jimmy 4x4 with a 1.3 LT petrol m13a engine, all original from 2001, all original that I usually use on rural and forest tracks and with the right mud tyres it goes well and for me the Suzuki Jimmy 4x4 even if it is completely original I see that it is in its usual habitat in tackling rural farm tracks and forest roads that are used by logging companies for the transport of timber with forestry trucks!
Nice set of cruiser and well presented video! That LX570 guys is secretly trying to bust his diffs so he can justify buying lockers ;)
yea man. The fact that he came out un damaged was just a miracle
Any idea what tire pressure the LX570 was running? Didn't see much deformation in his tires. Would be interesting to see an LX570 try this with more aggressive MT/RT tires at rock crawling pressures.
It’s around 25lb I believe
All of those LC could have gone through is u had a good spotter. U’ll discourage them not to push those rigs. As 80 series owner, I live to see these trails.
nice! I would love to see yours doing some epic wheeling!
@@4WDisLife if u can send me ur IG, I’ll invite u the my videos.
Yes- that's what I want to do to mine-- lockers front and rear.. and other custom stuff-- like an EXTRA gas tank in the wheel where the spare was to go--giving 56 gallon capacity instead of 23.. and armor protect that tank too..
Damn you, Toyota, for not making factory off-road bumper options for the GX and LX platforms!
Let me rephrase that: Dear Toyota, please make off-road replacement bumpers for the GX and LX platforms because we know you'd do an amazing job at creating them! Love, your customer.
I wouldn’t want to be the 2nd or 3rd owner of that LX570.
Wise.
80 series takes the crown.
👍
Agreed best 4wd ever made by Toyota
That LX570 owner just fkn sends it man
haha yea, I was 200% sure it was going to be broken but it proved me wrong.
Should of used a set of maxi trax
The heavier u are, the harder it is to climb. Simple physics although triple locks also plays a huge part. 2 cars passed also made the terrain harder as they dig deeper into the ground everytime they got stuck. Just my 2 cents opinion. experienced in Borneo Safari.
Props to the guy in the LX570 for not giving up just because everyone is telling him to back down.
I mean there is only 10+ vehicles sitting behind him waiting
I heard bunch of Chinese! Great to see Chinese people in the off road scene!
Shocked that even the stockish 200 series with 33’s did better on the flex test than the 80 series. The one on 35s did even better, but neither of them fully lifted a tire. The 80 on the other hand did lift. So, is the solid front axle really as much of an articulation advantage as people claim?
I'd say the way IFS flexes is a little different than the SA, however whether one is advantageous over another depends on the needs. Cheers!
Totally agree. Conventional wisdom is solid axles articulate better than IFS, but that simply isn’t on display here. Are any of these rigs running with swaybars disconnected and/or have KDSS?
I think the solid axle is probably still superior on true rock crawling situations where the rock faces are inclined, but on this undulating ground circumstance I think the 200’s are performing best.
LX570 driver should have engaged crawl control on the Rolling Rock Hill Challenge.
Maybe helpful. But we did have the lc200 on 35s using crawl control and it didn’t make it up. So I guess on this hill the locker is key.
@@4WDisLife did he at least use the center locker that comes with the truck?
@@MrLazlness yes
That one family member or friend that doesn't give an f... destroying his LX570. 🙄
Lol. Right? I am genuinely impressed because it didn’t break anything with that amount of sending
id take that 80 anyday.
I would too. It’s the best looking one imo but that’s subjective
Land cruiser lc200 silver its so beautiful can u have pic this car
God dang, that 80series is noice. Makes me wana trade my Lx 😅
Man I was really rooting for that LX 570, they were really sending it. Did they just have the center diff locked?
Yes lx570 only had center locker
@@4WDisLife oh okay. I wonder why it didn't do so well
The last LX would try the ATRAC since it has no rear and front diff locks
awesome video
but I would not push to much on thet rolling rock part.
I would winch it, just to safe the material😅
But really great track & video
I like this Chinese offroading
lol
@4WDisLife I'm chinese myself so I'm honestly happy to see representation. Keep up the videos. Especially LC100
As an 80 and 200 owner, I feel like these guys were not really wheeling the safe and best way for the cars. They were just sending it and using the gas to get them out of trouble. No spotters, no deflated tires, and no planned lines.
Seems like some NYC bros who are not used to wheeling but have nice rigs.
It’s nice to see guys out enjoying their cruisers, but I believe they would get alot better at wheeling if they slow down and choose their lines with a spotter.
Expensive equipment doesn’t make you better.
Partially agree. They were all aired down, there was a spotter but not all of them decide to follow instruction and at that point I was just an observer with a camera, trust me, I want to have a close comp as much as anyone but I didn’t want to go out of my way to tell them what to do with their own vehicles.
@@4WDisLife that’s very fair. I guess they just got excited and send it up the hill. That’s how you drive a lifted old bronco or blazer but it hurts to see those beautiful cruisers just thrashed up that hill.
@@muria64 definitely. For that lx570 I was in shock seeing it doing that and still not broke anything
Make one with 300 GRS now please
Love landcruiser 80
Great video!
Thank you!
I wonder how a 5th gen 4runner with rear locker wuld compare on that last hill
They are ok. Buddy has one but he’s only able to do 75% of what the triple locked 80 can do
Good video and narration
Thank you
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That 570 could make it through with a good spotter and keep on wiggling his front left-right
Maybe
80 and 200❤
That 200 had a tough time on the rolling rock hill, I wonder how it would do if it had a slight lift and better tires.
the 200 or the lx570? That white lc200 is 2-3inch lifted and on 35s
@@4WDisLife You're right. I meant the LX570.
Whose is the rear bumper of the 200?
The last guy does not what a differentials and locker is
How much does it cost to get suspension that can handle this?
While it helps, it hs less to do with the suspension - and I would add that while 35s make a difference, these too weren’t the deal breakers here. The 80 and 200 series made it up because they were triple locked (front, rear and center) and tires were aggressive enough to grip on the rocks to keep traction.
Thought the 200 could select crawl control and just creep up there?
Unfortunately we tried and it didn’t work
LX 470 / LC cygnus is so baddas
There's a long line of cars in that trail and every one of them wishes that was there 80
I don’t know about others but that’s true with me.
Great vids and thanks for sharing! MY I know where is this trail located?
Thanks man. It’s in PA. Called famous reading outdoors.
Dose the lexus 100 have A Trac ?
Not in that production year.
❤️
I feel so sorry for the LX570. Should not be treated like that.
The land cruiser has evolved two ways :
1. Physical size. If you park a land cruiser 80 series next to a 300 series you’d be amazed how much longer and taller (stock) the 300 series is.
2. Luxury. Let’s be honest the 80 series wasn’t that plush or flashy of a SUV. The 100 got a little dressier 200 more dressy 300 us even more. While the land cruiser trying to do two things be luxurious and the backwoods billy goat. I think they were trying to go after the Range Rover crowd however I will say I will take a Toyota any give. Day to a Range Rover. My next suv will probably be a LX600(Lexus version of the land cruiser) here in the USA they quit selling the land cruiser
Nice. Only if they brought lc300 to the states
@@4WDisLife -we got the lx600 which is basically a land cruiser dressed up
@@BoostedDeere sure. But just like the lc200 and lx570. I’d prefer lc200 any day haha
Do you know the lift and tire size for the 80 seires?
The 80series has around 2-3inch of life and 315/70r17 tires
What was your tire pressure?
20-25psi
Lo mejor es el GX470 es el mejor motor y peso y rendimiento
No lockers?😊
Only the lc80 and 200 had lockers. Other two didn’t
Ok so buy a land cruiser I should.
i don’t see the reason not to haha
You should, I just bought one 3 days ago.
The skill set is lacking. They all do release the gas when the truck need it most.. and via versa.
Center locker aka 4wd
ok not sure if I get it
@@4WDisLife All-Wheel-Drive trucks, i.e. LC80, 100 & 200, need a center diff for on-road driving. 4WD trucks use 2H for on-road driving, 4H for low traction condition and 4L for off-road; therefore, 4WDs do not need a center diff so the front axle and rear axle are connected (or locked) together in the t-case when engaging 4H or 4L. I guess Conscientious Observer means that when a AWD truck's center diff is locked, it acts like a 4WD truck in 4H or 4L.
@@robinfly7303 okay. I see what he means now. Now what would a new raptor be with the viscous transfer case?
@@4WDisLife Some LC80s have both viscous coupler and center-differential (VCD) in their t-case. The VCD acts like a limited slip device (or LSD) between front axle and rear axle. I am not familiar with Raptor, but I understand Ford builds it to be a high speed desert runner, so I guess having a limited slip device between front and rear axles would put more power on the wheels of the axle with traction when the wheels on the other axle are airborne.
Guess nowadays the only distinguish difference between 4WD and AWD is the 2 speed T-Case
"LC80"? Tell me you don't know what you are talking about without yelling me you don't know what you are talking about.
I don’t follow
@@4WDisLife its an FJ80. An "LC80" isn't even a thing.
@@SierraADV Well, if you want to be correct, a Land Cruiser 80 could be a FJ80, FZJ80, HJ80 and possibly other code names depending on its engine configuration. So some of us 80 owners use LC80 as shorthand for Land Cruiser 80 regardless of engine type.
@@robinfly7303 that's not "shorthand". It's "incorrect". "FJ80" is correct. "FZJ80" is correct. "HJ80" is correct. "80 series" is correct. "LC80" is not and has not ever been an accurate description for this vehicle. It's simply ignorant.
@@SierraADV 🤓
Some cars are useless… 😢
BUMP THAT SHIT WTF YOURE IN AN TRIPPLE LOCKED 80
I thought by having lockers it help eliminate the amount of bumping.
You just can't drive
Well half-way through the vid and so far it's LOCKERS hands down!!!! :) That answers that question for me..
Yea. Lockers are your friend Offroad
I really like LOGAN KING's SETUP--- check him out and compare and let me know what you think.... I believe I'll set one up like his.. even for my daily driver-- because I'm retired and only drive when I really NEED to-- or just WANT to anyway.. no everyday to work crap any more.