I Think You Should Have Figured In Cost Of Accessories / Add-Ons / Upgrades With This Video. i.e. Risers (Mentioned) + Rotary (Touched On) + Pass Through + Air Assist + Air Filters + Exhaust + Fire Safety + Ease Of Maintenance = True Overall Cost Of Ownership!
I kept my eye on the xtool p2s since mine will be here in a few weeks. I think the riser would help the z axis scoring, but not much else. However, I was happy to see it not vary as much, thanks ANOVA! Good review. Much appreciated.
I would be very interested in seeing a video comparing RF vs Glass tube power like you mentioned. Thunder Laser markets the Bolt's 30w RF tube as being equivalent to a 60w glass tube, but when you look at the cut settings they publish, they say their 30w RF tube can cut through 3mm birch ply at 10mm/s at 90% power, while the 60w glass tube can do 45mm/s at 90% power. That doesn't sound very equivalent.
Fantastic comment. I find Thunder Lasers claims to be VERY misleading! OneLaser is also making the same claims. An RF tube will not cut as fast as a “comparable” glass tube.
Really like your video's it been helping with narrowing down what i want to buy for my starting small buisness. been going trough most of your reviews in my search!!
I think adding the price of each product alongside the ratings at the end of the video would make it clearer. Or maybe rank them by price range, since comparing a $9999 machine with those around $2000-$4000 feels a bit unfair. After all, you get what you pay for.
I've got the price in there at the beginning and I thought the end. I wanted to make all the categories equal, but price might play a bigger factor for different people.
I would have given Glowforge a 1 for speed and acceleration. The fact that they won't publish those values is deceptive. I also would have given them a 1 in the software category, as their app is just awful.
If I could ask one thing, this would be it, when you folks(influencers/RUclipsrs/content creators in general make these types of Videos - reviews, info on products etc., is that you would include your opinion (or test results)on the maintenance processes, are they the same or is there a brand that has out performed the rest with how little maintenance or even the level of difficulty is between all these difference "similar" products.
I haven’t but the best I can tell it’s now just a black version of the 55W. I should have done a better job mentioning it in the video it wasn’t the Gweike and OMTech are bad machines, they are just at the bottom in terms of performance vs the others. But they also are the vheapest
I have the GlowForge standard 40W. What a giant piece of shit this machine is along with the miserable online required software. Have to be online or you won’t work,,, ever. I’ll never buy anything GlowForge again.
Glowforge is like Apple, depends on the more naive Americans (Glowforge almost doesn't exist in Europe). Just like Apple depends on the same demographic (worldwide Apple has barely 27% but they are almost 60% in US) Besides US people, nobody in his right mind is okay with paying hundreds of dollars of subscription for a product that costs thousands of dollars and be forced to be online to use it (just like Apple force you to upload your favorite ringtone through iTunes, you cannot just drag and drop the file on your phone like on every other phone)
I Think You Should Have Figured In Cost Of Accessories / Add-Ons / Upgrades With This Video.
i.e. Risers (Mentioned) + Rotary (Touched On) + Pass Through + Air Assist + Air Filters + Exhaust + Fire Safety + Ease Of Maintenance = True Overall Cost Of Ownership!
good idea for the next version of this video.
Awaiting Your Honest Hands On Review Of SwiftShape Elite…
I am looking forward to what Onelaser shows in a few days.
same
I kept my eye on the xtool p2s since mine will be here in a few weeks. I think the riser would help the z axis scoring, but not much else. However, I was happy to see it not vary as much, thanks ANOVA! Good review. Much appreciated.
I would be very interested in seeing a video comparing RF vs Glass tube power like you mentioned. Thunder Laser markets the Bolt's 30w RF tube as being equivalent to a 60w glass tube, but when you look at the cut settings they publish, they say their 30w RF tube can cut through 3mm birch ply at 10mm/s at 90% power, while the 60w glass tube can do 45mm/s at 90% power. That doesn't sound very equivalent.
Fantastic comment. I find Thunder Lasers claims to be VERY misleading! OneLaser is also making the same claims. An RF tube will not cut as fast as a “comparable” glass tube.
Really like your video's it been helping with narrowing down what i want to buy for my starting small buisness. been going trough most of your reviews in my search!!
Great to hear!
I think adding the price of each product alongside the ratings at the end of the video would make it clearer. Or maybe rank them by price range, since comparing a $9999 machine with those around $2000-$4000 feels a bit unfair. After all, you get what you pay for.
I've got the price in there at the beginning and I thought the end. I wanted to make all the categories equal, but price might play a bigger factor for different people.
Have you heard of the swiftshape lx30. It's on kickstarter right now and looks interesting, but I'm a little skeptical.
Just seen stuff about them but don’t have any contact
Impressive video! All those numbers, the information and the details. Thank you so much. I learned a lot more about lasers today thanks to you.
Hope it helped, thanks for watching!
So... The very BEST laser, does not, and may not EVER, exist. Brilliant.
Yep, that’s why I didn’t mention them till the end
The bio’s of the One Laser admins on their Facebook page are pretty much blank, no mention of experience or their company… #justsaying 😂
I think it would be nice if you could include expected maintenance costs, for my laser engraver parts are very difficult to get.
good call
Thunder Bolt is best bang for buck by far, especially for an RF. Should be #1.
If you put more emphasis on price than I did then it totally would be.
I would have given Glowforge a 1 for speed and acceleration. The fact that they won't publish those values is deceptive. I also would have given them a 1 in the software category, as their app is just awful.
Totally get that
If I could ask one thing, this would be it, when you folks(influencers/RUclipsrs/content creators in general make these types of Videos - reviews, info on products etc., is that you would include your opinion (or test results)on the maintenance processes, are they the same or is there a brand that has out performed the rest with how little maintenance or even the level of difficulty is between all these difference "similar" products.
@@1-Nice-Guy I am in no way saying what you are saying, and I do not support your comment in anyway. just to be clear. cheers!
@@guindonmike let me rephrase it…why do you think reviewers never post their personal opinions?
Great point, I’ll include that in the future!
I was hoping you would have AP lasers on the list
I need to add them next time.
7:32. Top speed 3,500mm/s Not 35,000mm/s
Defeated by metric again
Oh for fucks sake, i just bought the regular polar!
hahaha
Hi did you already get your Hands on the Monport Onyx 55W CO2 Laser? Is it any good?
If no, what didnt you like about it?
Thanks!
I haven’t but the best I can tell it’s now just a black version of the 55W. I should have done a better job mentioning it in the video it wasn’t the Gweike and OMTech are bad machines, they are just at the bottom in terms of performance vs the others. But they also are the vheapest
@@makeorbreakshop Thanks for your answer. Did i get it right and its build the same way as Gweike and OMTech or are there differences?
Oh shoot I misread your comment! Gweike also has a black machine, so Monport yep it’s pretty much the same as those
ONYX 55w and OMTECH polar is just same thing
lol considering the price, you pay what you gain.
yep.
Trotec Speedy?
Need to add it next time, I can never get good pricing on Trotec..they always want to just setup a phone call.
OneLaser is going out of their way to hide who the owners are, and to be honest, so are you.
I have the GlowForge standard 40W. What a giant piece of shit this machine is along with the miserable online required software. Have to be online or you won’t work,,, ever. I’ll never buy anything GlowForge again.
Glowforge is like Apple, depends on the more naive Americans (Glowforge almost doesn't exist in Europe). Just like Apple depends on the same demographic (worldwide Apple has barely 27% but they are almost 60% in US)
Besides US people, nobody in his right mind is okay with paying hundreds of dollars of subscription for a product that costs thousands of dollars and be forced to be online to use it (just like Apple force you to upload your favorite ringtone through iTunes, you cannot just drag and drop the file on your phone like on every other phone)