There are quite a few brands & makes out there and we have been using some of them for years. Bear in mind that the depicted electronics are not really high loads for such powerbanks. Try a kettle, coffee-machine, toaster or even a drill, those are resistive loads. In our experiences, the inverters are not always up to spec for the higher (resistive) loads, where they do often have difficulty with resistive loads where the start-up current (very shortly) ramps-up beyond the rated output-power of the inverters. And causing damage if not careful. A good powerbank should protect itself against such mishaps. (as you can not always know if a e.g. 500 watt drill will draw temporary pull 700 watt in a cold-start situation) It often pays off to study the specs of a powerbank. Also be very careful not to overload the solar-input, not only the supply-voltage but also input-current. (the latter often not listed!) That also could cause damage and even break the solar-input! And with some brands, if the solar-input is broken, other functions may cease to operate as well, we found out the hard way. Lastly, also try to find out if the powerbank has a builtin BMS system, especially when using modern-day chemistry of the built-in battery/batteries. In our experiences, with a particular brand, after a year or so, all of our 9x units (ranging from 200 watts up to 1500 watts) show diminished capacity on their displays because of in-balances within the battery-packs. And, with the right-to-repair in mind, also try to find out what can be done after the economical life of powerbank, can you purchase 5, 10 years from now, new battery-packs to replace the built-in battery-pack?
Jordan I’m a massive fan of your channel and your high standards of work, so I mean no disrespect, on a db change I just hook the mains tails into a temp distribution board with 4 outgoing sockets, literally cost me nothing to put together, complete with afdd and rcd protection.
All he is doing is turning into a advertising company hoping people jump on the idea .. who needs an app to see how ur battery is doing lol . More waste of elements adding to the mountain of other stuff we don’t need in our life’s but buy because people like J convinced us we will use ( it’s a item that will end up in a cupboard and never used ) can’t even boil a kettle lol
@@makg4655 great for power outages and camping, but could charge it with the solar panel to get some electricity bills down using it for some household items
After being without power at my house for just over 7 days at the end of November last year due to Storm Arwen my biggest problem was that my oil fired central heating combi boiler could not function. I decided to buy an Ecoflow River so that if we lost power this year I could plug my central heating into the power pack to run the heating and hot water after I realised that the boiler only needed about 200 w to run the control circuits and the pumps. Given that I would use the system intermittently, I could recharge it using my car or by visiting somewhere nearby that had power or a generator. But with the flexible outlet configuration I could also chose to charge my phone or power the wifi router as needed. Given the lack of support from my DNO or utility company I realised that having some degree of personal resilience is essential.
I will get this in my future build of campervan next year with stationary solarpanels on the roof and also get portal panels. This is awsome! Thank you, I needed this review.
I've just bought the River 2 Max and I must say it is a fabulous piece of kit. I've not got solar panels yet but the campsite I was at had power points and WiFi at the main building I was able to plug it in, connect it to the WiFi and I could leave the battery and check on the app over cellular how charged the device was which I though was super cool. The device recharges super quickly and works flawlessly not to mention that fact the discharge and charge times are really accurate.
I have an EcoFlow Delta 2 on order and due for delivery before Christmas. There is the possibility of rolling blackouts in January and February and thus I want to be prepared.
I use a big eco flow to trickle charge my classic car in a garage with no power. I also use it with a Karcher Jet wash. It doesn’t get huge use, but when it does I love it.
Try and find a review from anyone who hasn’t had one for free. I’ve seen one of the contracts they get. And yes they can be honest about the products but the contract has certain terms about what they can say they don’t like about and stuff like they can’t compare with other manufacturers
Can this run an American Fridge/Freezer for one day? We have a electric blackout in our village for one day to replace/upgrade local Electricity transformer and repair poles. I do not want the contents of the freezer to defrost in that day.
I did my test with 125 watt High speed table fan for Camping, it only ran for 3. 15 hours . Which means abt 400 watt hours... It is falling short by 100 watt hrs everytime. X boost is kept off.... Have u ever tested their claim of 512 watt. In his video, I did not saw that....
People get confused because they mix up energy and power. Simply stated, energy is measured in Joules. Power is the rate of expending that energy. The more the power the higher rate of work being done or energy being expended per unit of time. 1 Watt is when 1Joule of work or energy is expended per second. So 1 watt-hour converts to 3600 Joules because there are 3600 seconds in an hour. Similarly 1kWh, the unit of energy used by the distribution companies because the Joule or watt-second is far too small for practical use, is equal to 3.6 Million Joules. So kW is power (the rate of expending energy) and kWh is the energy (e.g. the energy stored in a battery, also called its capacity, is stated in kWh but the rate at which it is used - i.e. the power (kW) - depends on the power rating of the load and is measured in kW. So a 500w heater connected to a device like this whose capacity is 500 watt-hours will deplete it completely in 1 hour. The fact that we use the expression ‘ connecting the power’ only serves to confuse. What we are actually doing is accessing the mains energy. Our bills tell us the total energy use by our appliances operating at varying power for varying durations.
Cool piece of kit, can it run as an UPS? I'm thinking of going with the Anker 757 Power Station as it can be used as an UPS but its' 2k with solar panels.
Fantastic timing Jordan! We're prone to winter power cuts here so I've been looking at these batteries. I'm not an electrician and the watts and watt hours and amps etc have been confusing me as to what it is I actually need. My wife is working from home now so the idea is to protect her office when the power is down so this was really very helpful. However I really would like to be able to make a cuppa too just to keep warm and we're all electric. Can anyone tell me is there anything that can power a kettle or is it just too power hungry and I'll have to rely on my neighbours gas hob? Thanks, great review.👍
@@leshackett3687 yes we do that if the outages are predicted but more often than not they're random and unexpected. I take an enormous hob kettle nextdoor and boil a couple of litres then wrap the kettle up in every teatowel and oven glove I possess lol, works a treat with a flask as well....we drink *lots* if tea! Cheers 👍🫖☕
Four 12v 160AH AGM Leisure Batteries wired in parallel and 1500w inverter-charger from Ebay will do the same thing for less than £500 for fixed back up use during either planned or unplanned power outages, and will easily power router, central heating pump, freezer etc for several hours. I can see the attraction for portable applications but the price will have to fall into the realm of the more traditional alternatives before I would consider one.
What a load hot air every you tuber pushing these over rated boxes over priced units £1000 for a useable unit what a rip off £1000 + for a unit to keep to keep fridge or freezer running for a short period reviews are poor backup Jackery best after service but still overpriced Good old honda petrol generator for reliabillity half the price and sell more
Hi you don't mention the earthing of these units, can this cause problems with the ignition system on gas central heating boilers when using as as a temporary source of power during a power cut.
Is this currently the best portable battery on the market?
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EcoFlow River 2 Max - amzn.to/3G2RbRS
There are quite a few brands & makes out there and we have been using some of them for years.
Bear in mind that the depicted electronics are not really high loads for such powerbanks.
Try a kettle, coffee-machine, toaster or even a drill, those are resistive loads.
In our experiences, the inverters are not always up to spec for the higher (resistive) loads, where they do often have difficulty with resistive loads where the start-up current (very shortly) ramps-up beyond the rated output-power of the inverters. And causing damage if not careful. A good powerbank should protect itself against such mishaps. (as you can not always know if a e.g. 500 watt drill will draw temporary pull 700 watt in a cold-start situation) It often pays off to study the specs of a powerbank.
Also be very careful not to overload the solar-input, not only the supply-voltage but also input-current. (the latter often not listed!)
That also could cause damage and even break the solar-input! And with some brands, if the solar-input is broken, other functions may cease to operate as well, we found out the hard way.
Lastly, also try to find out if the powerbank has a builtin BMS system, especially when using modern-day chemistry of the built-in battery/batteries. In our experiences, with a particular brand, after a year or so, all of our 9x units (ranging from 200 watts up to 1500 watts) show diminished capacity on their displays because of in-balances within the battery-packs.
And, with the right-to-repair in mind, also try to find out what can be done after the economical life of powerbank, can you purchase 5, 10 years from now, new battery-packs to replace the built-in battery-pack?
Just more waste of earth elements when will we stop spending £ on stuff that can be done just by being efficient and planning ahead.
Can you tell us, when the next power outages are gonna happen?
I do appreciate the handle of the River 2. It does make carrying it an easy chore.
Jordan I’m a massive fan of your channel and your high standards of work, so I mean no disrespect, on a db change I just hook the mains tails into a temp distribution board with 4 outgoing sockets, literally cost me nothing to put together, complete with afdd and rcd protection.
That’s true but we all have the gear bug, I keep telling my wife I need something for work but in reality, I want the latest gizmo.
A demonstration video would be useful for those who need graphic instruction........;)
All he is doing is turning into a advertising company hoping people jump on the idea .. who needs an app to see how ur battery is doing lol . More waste of elements adding to the mountain of other stuff we don’t need in our life’s but buy because people like J convinced us we will use ( it’s a item that will end up in a cupboard and never used ) can’t even boil a kettle lol
@@makg4655 great for power outages and camping, but could charge it with the solar panel to get some electricity bills down using it for some household items
What I do like is the weight. Since it only weighs 3.5 kilos. It won't matter carrying it around all day.
I love my River 2 Max. this little box ran my full size Beko Fridge/Freezer for over 11 hours.
After being without power at my house for just over 7 days at the end of November last year due to Storm Arwen my biggest problem was that my oil fired central heating combi boiler could not function. I decided to buy an Ecoflow River so that if we lost power this year I could plug my central heating into the power pack to run the heating and hot water after I realised that the boiler only needed about 200 w to run the control circuits and the pumps. Given that I would use the system intermittently, I could recharge it using my car or by visiting somewhere nearby that had power or a generator. But with the flexible outlet configuration I could also chose to charge my phone or power the wifi router as needed. Given the lack of support from my DNO or utility company I realised that having some degree of personal resilience is essential.
I will get this in my future build of campervan next year with stationary solarpanels on the roof and also get portal panels. This is awsome! Thank you, I needed this review.
I've just bought the River 2 Max and I must say it is a fabulous piece of kit. I've not got solar panels yet but the campsite I was at had power points and WiFi at the main building I was able to plug it in, connect it to the WiFi and I could leave the battery and check on the app over cellular how charged the device was which I though was super cool. The device recharges super quickly and works flawlessly not to mention that fact the discharge and charge times are really accurate.
My one gets delivered today with extra battery. Good video thank you
Enjoy it!
I have an EcoFlow Delta 2 on order and due for delivery before Christmas. There is the possibility of rolling blackouts in January and February and thus I want to be prepared.
I use a big eco flow to trickle charge my classic car in a garage with no power. I also use it with a Karcher Jet wash. It doesn’t get huge use, but when it does I love it.
Thanks at last a great review someone showing what it can do in Leymans term
Thanks top
Man
Great sales pitch 🤙
I'm slightly confused why this review isn't on your Tools4Sparks channel.
Nice battery…
It’s a pity you don’t know an electrician who can fit you some new office wall sockets to replace all those extension leads… 😎
Also shows how efficient modern electronics are with switch-mode PSU and LED driver modules/voltage-dropper-rectifiers
Jordan, good real life demo! How long would it take to fully charge that unit of the solar cells? Thanks!
Funny, The amazon site says 'Engine type - 4 Stroke' bit of a typo I think!
The 3000 charge cycle is what I like best. It could last me about 10 years.
That’s great! Would like to know if you can use the battery whilst it’s charging?
Hi, is it "Powethru"?
Do Ecoflow sell any of these or just distribute them to RUclipsrs?
Try and find a review from anyone who hasn’t had one for free.
I’ve seen one of the contracts they get. And yes they can be honest about the products but the contract has certain terms about what they can say they don’t like about and stuff like they can’t compare with other manufacturers
Can this run an American Fridge/Freezer for one day? We have a electric blackout in our village for one day to replace/upgrade local Electricity transformer and repair poles. I do not want the contents of the freezer to defrost in that day.
I did my test with 125 watt High speed table fan for Camping, it only ran for 3. 15 hours . Which means abt 400 watt hours... It is falling short by 100 watt hrs everytime. X boost is kept off....
Have u ever tested their claim of 512 watt. In his video, I did not saw that....
Is it true sine wave?
People get confused because they mix up energy and power. Simply stated, energy is measured in Joules. Power is the rate of expending that energy. The more the power the higher rate of work being done or energy being expended per unit of time. 1 Watt is when 1Joule of work or energy is expended per second. So 1 watt-hour converts to 3600 Joules because there are 3600 seconds in an hour. Similarly 1kWh, the unit of energy used by the distribution companies because the Joule or watt-second is far too small for practical use, is equal to 3.6 Million Joules. So kW is power (the rate of expending energy) and kWh is the energy (e.g. the energy stored in a battery, also called its capacity, is stated in kWh but the rate at which it is used - i.e. the power (kW) - depends on the power rating of the load and is measured in kW. So a 500w heater connected to a device like this whose capacity is 500 watt-hours will deplete it completely in 1 hour. The fact that we use the expression ‘ connecting the power’ only serves to confuse. What we are actually doing is accessing the mains energy. Our bills tell us the total energy use by our appliances operating at varying power for varying durations.
Can I use the River 2 Max to power a 600Ws studio strobe? Am looking for a solution to do outdoor flash photography.
Cool piece of kit, can it run as an UPS? I'm thinking of going with the Anker 757 Power Station as it can be used as an UPS but its' 2k with solar panels.
Neat or not neat?
A bit of trunking and some cable ties under the desk could work wonders.
I don't like getting my feet tangled in cables.
I would prefer LiFePo4 as a technology instead of NMC. No fire starting blocks in my vehicles!
This is LFP
Can you use it while its charging?
Hey Jordan, can you actually add a little top up to your Tesla using this? And if so, what sort of percentage would it add in an emergency?
It’s minimal, check out Bjorn Nylands videos where he runs various EV’s till they stop. He then charges using these to get to a charge station.
Fantastic timing Jordan! We're prone to winter power cuts here so I've been looking at these batteries. I'm not an electrician and the watts and watt hours and amps etc have been confusing me as to what it is I actually need. My wife is working from home now so the idea is to protect her office when the power is down so this was really very helpful. However I really would like to be able to make a cuppa too just to keep warm and we're all electric. Can anyone tell me is there anything that can power a kettle or is it just too power hungry and I'll have to rely on my neighbours gas hob?
Thanks, great review.👍
Make a flask of boiled water in the morning should last most of the working hours
@@leshackett3687 yes we do that if the outages are predicted but more often than not they're random and unexpected. I take an enormous hob kettle nextdoor and boil a couple of litres then wrap the kettle up in every teatowel and oven glove I possess lol, works a treat with a flask as well....we drink *lots* if tea! Cheers 👍🫖☕
@Jude Brown
Yes, the Ecoflow delta 2 or delta pro, or the Bluetti ac200 or ac300
Four 12v 160AH AGM Leisure Batteries wired in parallel and 1500w inverter-charger from Ebay will do the same thing for less than £500 for fixed back up use during either planned or unplanned power outages, and will easily power router, central heating pump, freezer etc for several hours. I can see the attraction for portable applications but the price will have to fall into the realm of the more traditional alternatives before I would consider one.
Time of year for RUclips power bank adverts again? I still need to get one though (I think), but probably go for a delta.
We have the delta it is a beast 👍
Please stop using the word "cool" all over the place - if anything these devices run "hot".
No it’s not!
Bluetti have better battery technology. LiFePO4 instead of Lithium ion. Many times more cycles. Better features.
The EcoFlow River 2 range use LiFePO4 batteries.
What a load hot air every you tuber pushing these over rated boxes over priced units £1000 for a useable unit what a rip off £1000 + for a unit to keep to keep fridge or freezer running for a short period reviews are poor backup
Jackery best after service but still overpriced
Good old honda petrol generator for reliabillity half the price and sell more
What’s overrated about it?
@@artisanelectrics I think he means over-rated in the over-hyped sense rather than exceeding the expected loading😊
Hi you don't mention the earthing of these units, can this cause problems with the ignition system on gas central heating boilers when using as as a temporary source of power during a power cut.