The Mystique - Blob interaction is intended, if the last card played has an ongoing effect, she copies the entire text of the card, not just the ongoing effect, she used to do that but they changed it intentionnally in a previous patch, same for Rogue (she also copies ongoing effect). So I don't think they're gonna change that.
Not just recently previous patch but they change that a long time ago but player didn't have a chance to see full interaction until Arishem bc Blob is a thing now
I ventured down here to say exactly this. 100% intended, not a spaghetti code situation. It's only been more noticeable because of Arishem enabling the combo far more than any other time previous.
Yoo this is super spicy I dig it. Reminds of those really early pool 3 decks before Sauron where venom was the main use case for turning off Red Skull or Tyhpoids downside.
How about Ghost for Ajax? A lot of people are going to save Luke Cage for turn 6 to avoid your Enchantress/Rogue/Red Guardian, so playing last can help you snipe Cage, if you are good at predicting your opponent moves
I think it's too unreliable trying to predict where they'll place their Luke on turn 6 when you're forced to play ghost turn 3/4 but neat idea. if there's room in the deck it's worth a shot, maybe before Cassandra comes out
The thing with Mystique is that it is working as intended, but I don't think they had Arishem in the works and thought about the Blob interaction when they made the Mystique change. At the time in the Dev notes they specifically mentioned that she would also take cards like Electro's and the Soul Stone's on reveal abilities.
But who wants to copy electro the two extra energy isn’t worth it for one card it also requires mystique being played on turn four five and six has to be perfect.
@@TheBryceBrown yeah i just thought it was wierd before a long while ago Rogue wasn’t played near as much and soul stone og and electro neither were anything close to a very good target. Rogue hitting a opponents blob would be amazing if arishem gave you rogue but I’d like it if a straight counter by using rogue on a card like blob worked like shadow king.
I like the debris with a goblin to take up space. Think adding echo in to help narrow down a lane ur opponent plays luke on. Luke will probably be held till turn 6
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Alex, with the disrespect to Wiccan!! Unkown character! For shame. I'm personally saving all my spotlight keys for next month because I love the characters of the Young Avengers, specifically Billy and Teddy. I don't even care if they are good.
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I think ms marvel is vital to Ajax. Putting down power that can’t be afflicted on your side if they get the luke down and you can’t get rid of it. Even maybe some Mr Fantastic cope lol. I’m going to go for a sera affliction spectrum type of deal
That Supergiant Mystique Hazmat was something I'm thinking of as well. But because Mystique wouldn't be tall enough, I'm thinking to add Mockingbird to be played alongside Ajax on final turn. Though certainly on T1-3 we have to play out a lot of token cards.
This where I’m leaning too. I remember for a little bit there was some Death Annihilus Mockingbird decks going around because you create tokens then either destroy them or send them over to get discounts on bird and death I wonder if he has a place in there like play squirrels and Mysterio hazmat then send them over or destroy them as a backup
Every card on your side with negative power buffs Ajax by 1... but is also taking power off your side of the board. It's either a wash, or worse if you hit more than -1. There's no value there unless they make him lower base +2. I don't see anyone playing affliction on their own side. It... negates... itself.
Two things regarding Ajax. First, there are three other ongoing big boys in snap - Darkhawk, Devil Dino, and Ronan. None of them were that meta relevant until Arishem started to artificially prop up Darkhawk, and all of them require arguably less support to work. I think it bodes poorly for Ajax that he is the most vulnerable to counter play out of the four of them and needs an entire deck built around him. Second, Luke Cage doesn't just turn off Ajax - he turns off his entire deck as well. At least the first week I think negative anything is going to be unplayable, until Ajax kind of settles into a 6/10 fringey meta presence.
Tell me you don't play affliction decks without telling me. It's not that much work and no one plays Cage. They will this week and that will suck. But you'll have your Rogue and it will work out. Plus you just retreat for one cube if you have to. He'll be a 5/12 minimum and that's until Cassandra comes out. Abomination + She-Hulk turn 6 is already 19 power and if Abomination is free Ajax is an extra 12.
You're right - I don't play affliction decks very much because they aren't very good, at least in my ranking on the ladder (currently 4500ish infinite, finished 1500ish last season). Cage comes in and out of the meta but the reason he isn't seen much now is because outside of the odd negative surfer list, affliction decks don't see very much play. High Evo is about tier 3 right now, but if affliction becomes stronger, you can bet Cage will be back with a vengeance. Maybe it's good when Cassandra Nova comes out, or maybe Cage just becomes the staple 3 drop tech card until August or beyond. But just saying "I have Rogue so it's fine" isn't good enough. Ajax is also vulnerable to so many tech options - Shang, Rogue, Enchantress, red guardian, etc. I'm not saying he's going to be trash, but I will be genuinely shocked if he is a mover and shaker in the meta. My guess is affliction decks reach about tier 2 at best before having their ceiling capped by their vulnerability.
@@MrSmith432 Absolutely there was. But that time wasn't in the meta leading up to Arishem, and if Arishem was never released, he would have gone on that way until his shell got something to help it. Even still, Darkhawk is a far, far, *far* superior card to Ajax.
Would it ever make sense to make Luke Cages text “The adjacent locations cards can’t have their power reduced”? Makes his play more predictable for Echo/Rogue/Enchantress/Red Guardian, but still shields more than just his own location like they tried a couple months ago.
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What I dont understand is how no one is talking about how his interaction with negative power on your side of the board isn't really a benefit. You're still losing power in those cards, so at most you are coming out even and consolidating that lost power in one lane. If your cards are more than just -1, you're coming out at a loss. You have to win 2 lanes in this game and that negative power will hurt in my opinion.
Main thing that elevates Copycat and Hulkling for me in greatness is the surprise factor. That's what gets you cubes baby!! Also one Hulkling ability I don't think you guys brought up is Alioth.
WHAT IF, and hear me out here, we have Zoo turns 1-3, Typhoid Mary on T4, Ajax on T5 then Luke Cage on T6. Won't Luke prevent Ajax from dropping in power even though the rest of your cards would go up?
I really wish cards generated by arishem kept the style of your variant. Every other form of card generation does this (such as Coulson, Fury, and Loki) so it’s just weird that half the cards in every Arishem deck are always the lowest upgrade quality
All the other content creators are saying don't roll for Ajax. You guys are right, we won't know the full power until cassandra nova is out. Turn 2 scorpion gets the whole hand, Turn 3 cassandra gets the rest. I'm betting on cassandra and rolling for this card. Oh and last point: everyone is only counting how tall Ajax can get. They aren't counting how low every other afflicted card gets when you run a full afflict deck. This honestly feels like a 'cannonball' week where people will eventually regret not picking him up.
Honestly I'm thinking wicken will be pretty good, could see a deck that has quicksilver and domino, then a few 3 drops then wicken. Maybe a silver surfer type win con but idk
I don’t think that Ajax will need a lot of pieces to make him good. Just like Maximus is enough to enable ronin just having hazmat on 6 will be more than enough to bring Ajax to 20+ power.
Im getting Ajax simply because hes basically a key piece of a new(ish) deck archtype and i like having as many deck options as i can (except Cerebro, i never play Cerebro just becauae it's just not a deck for me personally)
11:13 for my spectrum deck I'm going to try and run Gilgamesh as a turn 6 Alt to Spectrum. If you don't get the Spectrum you have Ajax in one lane, all the negative power, and you slam Gilgamesh in another. I'm gonna try and stay away from High Evolutionary the first week just to be different because affliction can have a lot of different builds.
So I'm not sure that Cage will actually be a shut off to Ajax. It just says they need to be afflicted with Negative Power, not that it has to be active. I mean, if you shut off Cage, the negative power is still there. So it'll be interesting to see if Ajax doesn't care that Cage exists. Think about High Evo Abomination. Even if Luke is on the board, if you previously afflicted cards with Negative Power (Hazmat, Cyclops, Scorpion), he still costs less even if the their power level is reading as normal.
imagine you get hulkling first day you're all giddy to try a new card you go into a match sakar is the first location it pulls hulkling but guess what your hulkling copied ultron now you sit there just looking at the leave
Since the text says "for every Card", does itself count aswell? E.g. you`ve ajax & typhoid (Ajax gets -1 from typhoid, therefore +1 and it evens out?) thanks for another great podcast tho!
I think Ajax should be buffed by having his base power not be able to be reduced (like Ebony blade). I think people are not factoring in that he also will be subject to reductions in play.
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This game needs a better collection system, i wish i could play any of the decks i see you guys talk about, but i refuse to spend what theyre asking and all my f2p series 5 cards get nerfed
@@Mrshiesty2.0 idk in the past I've run a High Evolutionary/Surfer list. It's great dropping She-hulk/Mocmingbird/Surfer all turn 7. Gonna be interesting to try and run one with Ajax but I'm gonna try.
8:27 Consider going Rogue over Enchantress. I know you want to Afflict your side and do all this crazy stuff to boost Ajax power. But if they throw Luke Cage into the Ajax lane and all you have is Enchantress you're screwed. I think Rogue + Red Guardian is the superior way to go.
he's gonna be easily getting more power than gilgamesh with one late hazmat since it counts affected bodies on both sides. the problem is you need negative power on your cards to buff him to that extent, which means you end up with less total power than you would with gilgamesh who scales with positive power on your side
@@BacadoTheSkoggyif you play hazmat late then yeah probably but the cards you're hitting on your side is gonna be a low amount with the decks being considered for him. It's not like you're gonna run squirrel girl or something. And then you're relying on the opponent playing a lot cards too. Not to mention what you're doing is telegraphed and they could easily retreat whenever you get a really good game. And technically ajax will be getting more power than gilgamesh in ideal games, but your board won't be. Every buff ajax gets for a hazmat affliction on your side is just cancelling it out overall. - 1 for a +1. It's still a positive since you can sacrifice a lane for a big single card but he's just not gonna be that good I'd say. Better than Wiccan and Speed though
@@BacadoTheSkoggy I just don't see it. I think Gilgamesh is reliably bigger and in a synergistic manner to winning the game. Ajax risks losing lanes to potentially win one lane
Sorry but he's not a worse Gilgamesh. He's ongoing so if they play Luke in his lane you can't Enchantress. That being said he's going to become a key component in affliction decks. I was running the ladder with a Selene deck this weekend. But in High Evo I consistently drop 19 power turn 6 while floating 3-5 power. If I remove Havok from my list and replace with Ajax, I'm now slamming 31 power down turn 6. That's wild. Plus you can dodge priority pretty easy that way. Every deck won't run Luke Cage and this will be his worst week by far.
Wiccan will be a telegraph nightmare. Quicksilver, dynamo, any 3 drop, then wiccan. Then expect infinaught, she hulk or anything shang chi able. Point is quicksilver dynamo = wiccan
You guys are forgetting about spectrum. If you can't apply negative power with the Wong, due to Luke Cage or something you always have the ability to apply positive power to your team.. I have a Odin, spectrum, hazmat deck that Ajax is going to fit into perfectly.
Second of all hela modok counters ajax very well. It's now running Luke Cage because hela applies negative power... And most of your cards don't reveal until the end of the game, thanks to supergiant and invisible woman
I'm pretty new to marvel snap, only been playing for a few months. Can someone help explain why they're saying Copycat is such a good card to go for with spotlight keys?
You gonna cut DarkHawk in a deck right now with Ari still running rampant? EVO already couldn’t keep up with Ari. However when Cass gets added to the mix then he might shine
Rouge will be better at countering LC than Red G. All the opponent has to do is play LC next to their 1 or 2 power card and they have a RG sponge to protect LC. Rouge at least has a chance if there's multiple ongoing cards at a location.
I would save Ajax for turn 5, minimize the chance of counter by playing him later. It'll block out Enchantress and Shang Chi, at least. Only really worry about Luke Cage.
i know we keep saying casandra nova is gonna be free, so i'm really hoping she will be easy to get. but i've just been having this bugging feeling that SD has set up this new mode where they really want you to buy those BUBS and so its gonna be difficult for us casuals to get her unless your really good. I just don't have faith in ben brode to make her card one that is easy to acquire freely
At first I thought you meant that Luke Cage will counter Ajax' decks and the archetype, but the more I heard you talk about it the more I feel like you think Luke Cage will stop Ajax from gaining power? The cards are still counted as afflicted with negative power, even if Luke Cage nullifies the value change. So Ajax will still gain power even with Luke Cage on the field, right? Meaning you want Luke Cage in your deck. You want to "afflict" your cards, but not lose power. I see him kind of like the Hood, Sentry + Annihilus package. Just stuff Hazmat, Luke Cage and Ajax into any shell type of deal.
They are 100 percent gonna change luke cages text to Cards in this lane are not affected by affliction! They are releasing to many affliction cards for them not to plan for that!
28:09 wondering why Cozy thinks this? Is there any support for this because if so that's great but based on the video the marvel snap RUclips channel posted, there were no keys on the track. Or in the alliances store
Ajax is to Gilgamesh what Ronin is to Devil Dino. There is so much less activators for him and is much more counterable. And Gilgamesh isn't even that good.
Flawless comment. Literally had the same discussion about that exact thing with a friend. Affliction isn't reliable at all as a strategy given that one rather popular tech card (Cage) can wipe all of it away, and can do so retroactively in a surprise way on top of that. With that said, making Ajax 5/5 is a bit of a joke (should be On Reveal like Gilgamesh so he at least retains the power gained) and will likely just cost you cubes
a new activator is coming out in cassandra nova. scorpion hits their hand, cassandra hits their deck, red gaurdian and others hit cards on board. super strong against arishem becausr even if they try to throw in luke, its super bad tempo and you can almost always enchantress or rogue it. like cage is not a fool proof counter. he is countered by tech cards but also what deck can afford to plag him on thenlast turn of the game? not very many. especially if the opponents ajax still sits at 16 power just from their own cards and theyre playing out a more powerful turn 6. make an afflicted/clog mash up i can see it really annoying people. there are natural counters but i dont see why people are so quick to write this guy off as “ronan tier”😭
As much as I have an interest in Ajax, i am committed to the Young Avengers. I have 5 keys, close to 6. Im looking forward to watching some Ajax gameplays from Snap content creators.
I really want cards where u can change a location u want or know what it's gonna become Type of location is important part of Marvel Snap... can make u lose or win And to manipulate them to a location u want...be awesome
Yes Luke Cage counters Ajax for half, but Rogue and Enchantress are kinda meta atm with all the Darkhawks so I dont see Luke being that big of a problem.
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The Mystique - Blob interaction is intended, if the last card played has an ongoing effect, she copies the entire text of the card, not just the ongoing effect, she used to do that but they changed it intentionnally in a previous patch, same for Rogue (she also copies ongoing effect). So I don't think they're gonna change that.
Yeah idk how so many people have missed this. It’s niche, and wasn’t really too viable before Arishem came out. But it was intentional.
I only discovered this when Arishem came out. I don’t have Blob yet, though, so it’s hard for me to maximize the archetype.
Not just recently previous patch but they change that a long time ago but player didn't have a chance to see full interaction until Arishem bc Blob is a thing now
I ventured down here to say exactly this. 100% intended, not a spaghetti code situation. It's only been more noticeable because of Arishem enabling the combo far more than any other time previous.
The fact that Alex who makes a job out of Snap didn't remember that is funny. They often forget a lot of important stuff though.
Ajax shoulda been on reveal like Gilgamesh. That way you can afflict your own cards to boost him but still Cage to get your power back
Saw this in KMbest comments. You can Venom Luke Cage turn 6. Lock in the Ajax power and flip your own affliction same turn
Yoo this is super spicy I dig it. Reminds of those really early pool 3 decks before Sauron where venom was the main use case for turning off Red Skull or Tyhpoids downside.
Mystique says, "If the last card you played has an Ongoing, copy its text." What are we even talking about here?
How about Ghost for Ajax? A lot of people are going to save Luke Cage for turn 6 to avoid your Enchantress/Rogue/Red Guardian, so playing last can help you snipe Cage, if you are good at predicting your opponent moves
I think it's too unreliable trying to predict where they'll place their Luke on turn 6 when you're forced to play ghost turn 3/4 but neat idea. if there's room in the deck it's worth a shot, maybe before Cassandra comes out
Add in an echo to narrow down to 2 lanes.
Ghost is always going to be cope
as for every other counter interaction that ghost would help: she is too slow and very hard to fit in those decks
The mystique/rouge interactions with Blob make perfect sense to me
The thing with Mystique is that it is working as intended, but I don't think they had Arishem in the works and thought about the Blob interaction when they made the Mystique change. At the time in the Dev notes they specifically mentioned that she would also take cards like Electro's and the Soul Stone's on reveal abilities.
It's the same with Rogue, so you can steal the Blob's ability too for example
But who wants to copy electro the two extra energy isn’t worth it for one card it also requires mystique being played on turn four five and six has to be perfect.
@@hadencrawford582 No one probably. I was just using that as an example that Mystique's intended ability is intended to do as such.
@@TheBryceBrown yeah i just thought it was wierd before a long while ago Rogue wasn’t played near as much and soul stone og and electro neither were anything close to a very good target. Rogue hitting a opponents blob would be amazing if arishem gave you rogue but I’d like it if a straight counter by using rogue on a card like blob worked like shadow king.
I think running an afflict ongoing deck with cosmo to protect Ajax and echo to guard for Luke cage could be good
Claw, miss Marvel and the red cable guy are gonna be really good here too, since their abilities dont get affected by negative power
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I like the debris with a goblin to take up space. Think adding echo in to help narrow down a lane ur opponent plays luke on. Luke will probably be held till turn 6
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Alex, with the disrespect to Wiccan!! Unkown character! For shame. I'm personally saving all my spotlight keys for next month because I love the characters of the Young Avengers, specifically Billy and Teddy. I don't even care if they are good.
Ajax is the villian from the first Deadpool movie, who we know as Francis!
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Honestly would try Echo with Ajax. Restricts the Luke Cage to two lanes or they forget the card is there and take care of it for you
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One sees a bee and think he'll be cut in half by it.
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Tbf, wasn't there a hurricane and a giant bee?
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Typhoid Mary + Ajax I see being an amazing self buff combo.
I think ms marvel is vital to Ajax. Putting down power that can’t be afflicted on your side if they get the luke down and you can’t get rid of it. Even maybe some Mr Fantastic cope lol. I’m going to go for a sera affliction spectrum type of deal
Oh that's a fun thought. Cozy mentioned Namora briefly. I'm not sure how this works cause I suck at Namora or Ms. Marvel builds but I love the idea!
That Supergiant Mystique Hazmat was something I'm thinking of as well.
But because Mystique wouldn't be tall enough, I'm thinking to add Mockingbird to be played alongside Ajax on final turn. Though certainly on T1-3 we have to play out a lot of token cards.
This where I’m leaning too. I remember for a little bit there was some Death Annihilus Mockingbird decks going around because you create tokens then either destroy them or send them over to get discounts on bird and death I wonder if he has a place in there like play squirrels and Mysterio hazmat then send them over or destroy them as a backup
It was probably a Cicada Killer Bee! Look it up, they are spawns of hell looking bees but are relatively harmless to humans unless you try to grab it.
pretty sure the male witch in the Agatha all along trailer is Wiccan.
Every card on your side with negative power buffs Ajax by 1... but is also taking power off your side of the board. It's either a wash, or worse if you hit more than -1. There's no value there unless they make him lower base +2. I don't see anyone playing affliction on their own side. It... negates... itself.
Two things regarding Ajax.
First, there are three other ongoing big boys in snap - Darkhawk, Devil Dino, and Ronan. None of them were that meta relevant until Arishem started to artificially prop up Darkhawk, and all of them require arguably less support to work. I think it bodes poorly for Ajax that he is the most vulnerable to counter play out of the four of them and needs an entire deck built around him.
Second, Luke Cage doesn't just turn off Ajax - he turns off his entire deck as well. At least the first week I think negative anything is going to be unplayable, until Ajax kind of settles into a 6/10 fringey meta presence.
Tell me you don't play affliction decks without telling me. It's not that much work and no one plays Cage. They will this week and that will suck. But you'll have your Rogue and it will work out. Plus you just retreat for one cube if you have to. He'll be a 5/12 minimum and that's until Cassandra comes out. Abomination + She-Hulk turn 6 is already 19 power and if Abomination is free Ajax is an extra 12.
Darkhawk was nit meta relevant? There was a time where everybody used Darkhawk and you had to use him so you could still compete.
You're right - I don't play affliction decks very much because they aren't very good, at least in my ranking on the ladder (currently 4500ish infinite, finished 1500ish last season).
Cage comes in and out of the meta but the reason he isn't seen much now is because outside of the odd negative surfer list, affliction decks don't see very much play. High Evo is about tier 3 right now, but if affliction becomes stronger, you can bet Cage will be back with a vengeance.
Maybe it's good when Cassandra Nova comes out, or maybe Cage just becomes the staple 3 drop tech card until August or beyond. But just saying "I have Rogue so it's fine" isn't good enough. Ajax is also vulnerable to so many tech options - Shang, Rogue, Enchantress, red guardian, etc.
I'm not saying he's going to be trash, but I will be genuinely shocked if he is a mover and shaker in the meta. My guess is affliction decks reach about tier 2 at best before having their ceiling capped by their vulnerability.
@@MrSmith432 Absolutely there was. But that time wasn't in the meta leading up to Arishem, and if Arishem was never released, he would have gone on that way until his shell got something to help it.
Even still, Darkhawk is a far, far, *far* superior card to Ajax.
Would it ever make sense to make Luke Cages text “The adjacent locations cards can’t have their power reduced”? Makes his play more predictable for Echo/Rogue/Enchantress/Red Guardian, but still shields more than just his own location like they tried a couple months ago.
Ajax and Hela??? Possible synergy.
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What I dont understand is how no one is talking about how his interaction with negative power on your side of the board isn't really a benefit. You're still losing power in those cards, so at most you are coming out even and consolidating that lost power in one lane. If your cards are more than just -1, you're coming out at a loss.
You have to win 2 lanes in this game and that negative power will hurt in my opinion.
Main thing that elevates Copycat and Hulkling for me in greatness is the surprise factor. That's what gets you cubes baby!! Also one Hulkling ability I don't think you guys brought up is Alioth.
WHAT IF, and hear me out here, we have Zoo turns 1-3, Typhoid Mary on T4, Ajax on T5 then Luke Cage on T6. Won't Luke prevent Ajax from dropping in power even though the rest of your cards would go up?
Dude that's genius
No that doesn’t work, you do not want Luke cage in a Ajax deck at all
Luke Cage will nullify Ajax’s ongoing effect. If it were on-reveal, it wouldn’t be as big of a concern.
I really wish cards generated by arishem kept the style of your variant. Every other form of card generation does this (such as Coulson, Fury, and Loki) so it’s just weird that half the cards in every Arishem deck are always the lowest upgrade quality
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Supergiant makes Ronan really good
All the other content creators are saying don't roll for Ajax. You guys are right, we won't know the full power until cassandra nova is out. Turn 2 scorpion gets the whole hand, Turn 3 cassandra gets the rest. I'm betting on cassandra and rolling for this card. Oh and last point: everyone is only counting how tall Ajax can get. They aren't counting how low every other afflicted card gets when you run a full afflict deck. This honestly feels like a 'cannonball' week where people will eventually regret not picking him up.
Honestly I'm thinking wicken will be pretty good, could see a deck that has quicksilver and domino, then a few 3 drops then wicken. Maybe a silver surfer type win con but idk
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I don’t think that Ajax will need a lot of pieces to make him good. Just like Maximus is enough to enable ronin just having hazmat on 6 will be more than enough to bring Ajax to 20+ power.
Im getting Ajax simply because hes basically a key piece of a new(ish) deck archtype and i like having as many deck options as i can (except Cerebro, i never play Cerebro just becauae it's just not a deck for me personally)
I think Alex is seriously underrating Wiccan. 7 energy on t5 and 8 on t6 has some insane potential.
11:13 for my spectrum deck I'm going to try and run Gilgamesh as a turn 6 Alt to Spectrum. If you don't get the Spectrum you have Ajax in one lane, all the negative power, and you slam Gilgamesh in another. I'm gonna try and stay away from High Evolutionary the first week just to be different because affliction can have a lot of different builds.
So I'm not sure that Cage will actually be a shut off to Ajax. It just says they need to be afflicted with Negative Power, not that it has to be active. I mean, if you shut off Cage, the negative power is still there. So it'll be interesting to see if Ajax doesn't care that Cage exists. Think about High Evo Abomination. Even if Luke is on the board, if you previously afflicted cards with Negative Power (Hazmat, Cyclops, Scorpion), he still costs less even if the their power level is reading as normal.
imagine you get hulkling first day you're all giddy to try a new card you go into a match sakar is the first location it pulls hulkling but guess what your hulkling copied ultron now you sit there just looking at the leave
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Canonically, rouge and mystiques text allows them yo do as they should
Since the text says "for every Card", does itself count aswell? E.g. you`ve ajax & typhoid (Ajax gets -1 from typhoid, therefore +1 and it evens out?)
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I think Ajax should be buffed by having his base power not be able to be reduced (like Ebony blade). I think people are not factoring in that he also will be subject to reductions in play.
Your bee attacker was likely a cicada killer (real name for a type of wasp, look it up).
These 2 weeks coming up are extremely hard for me cause i really want copycat since i have thanos and cull obsidian however the week after has the return of the Nico Minoru variant i have been regretting since her release that i didnt get i ABSOLUTELY need that ADIA variant Nico and im going for it
This game needs a better collection system, i wish i could play any of the decks i see you guys talk about, but i refuse to spend what theyre asking and all my f2p series 5 cards get nerfed
My go to deck when Cassandra comes out:
Cyclops, typhoid,brood, surfer,ajax,mystique,highevo,scorpion, Casandra,abom,wong,majik.
After deep thought this can't work with surfer so surfer and brood and wong out, thing, sera and TBD in.
@@Mrshiesty2.0 idk in the past I've run a High Evolutionary/Surfer list. It's great dropping She-hulk/Mocmingbird/Surfer all turn 7. Gonna be interesting to try and run one with Ajax but I'm gonna try.
Alex and the bee is now a meme lol
I've said it before and I'll say it again you are sleeeeeping in nimrod. I've got several decks that carry me even during each new meta
8:27 Consider going Rogue over Enchantress. I know you want to Afflict your side and do all this crazy stuff to boost Ajax power. But if they throw Luke Cage into the Ajax lane and all you have is Enchantress you're screwed. I think Rogue + Red Guardian is the superior way to go.
He is a substantially worse inversion of Gilgamesh
I routinely get Gilgamesh to 18+ power. Ajax isn't doing that
Main bonus is you can play him on 5 ig? Still way worse and it brings the risk of rogue and shang
he's gonna be easily getting more power than gilgamesh with one late hazmat since it counts affected bodies on both sides.
the problem is you need negative power on your cards to buff him to that extent, which means you end up with less total power than you would with gilgamesh who scales with positive power on your side
@@BacadoTheSkoggyif you play hazmat late then yeah probably but the cards you're hitting on your side is gonna be a low amount with the decks being considered for him. It's not like you're gonna run squirrel girl or something. And then you're relying on the opponent playing a lot cards too. Not to mention what you're doing is telegraphed and they could easily retreat whenever you get a really good game. And technically ajax will be getting more power than gilgamesh in ideal games, but your board won't be. Every buff ajax gets for a hazmat affliction on your side is just cancelling it out overall. - 1 for a +1. It's still a positive since you can sacrifice a lane for a big single card but he's just not gonna be that good I'd say. Better than Wiccan and Speed though
@@BacadoTheSkoggy I just don't see it. I think Gilgamesh is reliably bigger and in a synergistic manner to winning the game. Ajax risks losing lanes to potentially win one lane
Sorry but he's not a worse Gilgamesh. He's ongoing so if they play Luke in his lane you can't Enchantress.
That being said he's going to become a key component in affliction decks. I was running the ladder with a Selene deck this weekend. But in High Evo I consistently drop 19 power turn 6 while floating 3-5 power. If I remove Havok from my list and replace with Ajax, I'm now slamming 31 power down turn 6. That's wild. Plus you can dodge priority pretty easy that way. Every deck won't run Luke Cage and this will be his worst week by far.
If I only need Proxima for that week, is it worth the keys on that week?
What did you mean by go the Darkhawk route and get Cassandra for free? So we spend collector tokens to get her?
Wiccan will be a telegraph nightmare. Quicksilver, dynamo, any 3 drop, then wiccan. Then expect infinaught, she hulk or anything shang chi able.
Point is quicksilver dynamo = wiccan
44:14 I kid you not. That happened. Cozy, you absolutely prophetic son of a gun.
You guys are forgetting about spectrum. If you can't apply negative power with the Wong, due to Luke Cage or something you always have the ability to apply positive power to your team.. I have a Odin, spectrum, hazmat deck that Ajax is going to fit into perfectly.
Second of all hela modok counters ajax very well. It's now running Luke Cage because hela applies negative power... And most of your cards don't reveal until the end of the game, thanks to supergiant and invisible woman
Where is Ebony Blade at on the list? Black Knight is still rarely played but if you set up a big blade, the deck rarely loses.
I'm pretty new to marvel snap, only been playing for a few months. Can someone help explain why they're saying Copycat is such a good card to go for with spotlight keys?
I'm confused. Cassandra nova is free and it's nico, hope and proxima? I thought it was nova, hope summers and proxima? What did I miss?
Was probably a carpenter bee
Ajax can go well with a high evo deck to
You gonna cut DarkHawk in a deck right now with Ari still running rampant? EVO already couldn’t keep up with Ari. However when Cass gets added to the mix then he might shine
Maybe they could make thor a 2 cost beta a 3 and jane a 4 that would give more time for the cards to get the hamers.
Can someone help explain why they're saying Copycat is a can't miss card
Wiccan will forever be known as Wiggan form this point on.
I was watching Alex’s stream when the bee “attacked” him 😂 It was hilarious.
:D
Rouge will be better at countering LC than Red G. All the opponent has to do is play LC next to their 1 or 2 power card and they have a RG sponge to protect LC. Rouge at least has a chance if there's multiple ongoing cards at a location.
I will go for Ajax and BRB! 8 keys should be enough!
I thought I could waited for Blob week to play Arishem, but I just bought him yesterday and he worth EVERY TOKEN.
He’ll at least be SOME fun… mainly with high evo afflict
I would save Ajax for turn 5, minimize the chance of counter by playing him later. It'll block out Enchantress and Shang Chi, at least. Only really worry about Luke Cage.
Thanks for the video.
i know we keep saying casandra nova is gonna be free, so i'm really hoping she will be easy to get. but i've just been having this bugging feeling that SD has set up this new mode where they really want you to buy those BUBS and so its gonna be difficult for us casuals to get her unless your really good. I just don't have faith in ben brode to make her card one that is easy to acquire freely
Always ❤ all of your content cozy but I was just wondering if you’re going to stream anytime soon? Miss you streaming 🎉
At first I thought you meant that Luke Cage will counter Ajax' decks and the archetype, but the more I heard you talk about it the more I feel like you think Luke Cage will stop Ajax from gaining power? The cards are still counted as afflicted with negative power, even if Luke Cage nullifies the value change. So Ajax will still gain power even with Luke Cage on the field, right?
Meaning you want Luke Cage in your deck. You want to "afflict" your cards, but not lose power.
I see him kind of like the Hood, Sentry + Annihilus package. Just stuff Hazmat, Luke Cage and Ajax into any shell type of deal.
They are 100 percent gonna change luke cages text to Cards in this lane are not affected by affliction! They are releasing to many affliction cards for them not to plan for that!
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28:09 wondering why Cozy thinks this? Is there any support for this because if so that's great but based on the video the marvel snap RUclips channel posted, there were no keys on the track. Or in the alliances store
Ajax is to Gilgamesh what Ronin is to Devil Dino. There is so much less activators for him and is much more counterable. And Gilgamesh isn't even that good.
gilgamesh was the highest stat deck before arishem released and it’s still good. ronin sera is a top performing deck right now.
Flawless comment. Literally had the same discussion about that exact thing with a friend. Affliction isn't reliable at all as a strategy given that one rather popular tech card (Cage) can wipe all of it away, and can do so retroactively in a surprise way on top of that. With that said, making Ajax 5/5 is a bit of a joke (should be On Reveal like Gilgamesh so he at least retains the power gained) and will likely just cost you cubes
Nice! I watched the video too. That’s exactly what cozy said!
@@hypermobilesingerthank you i hate when people act like gilgamesh didnt make zoo a strong deck
a new activator is coming out in cassandra nova. scorpion hits their hand, cassandra hits their deck, red gaurdian and others hit cards on board. super strong against arishem becausr even if they try to throw in luke, its super bad tempo and you can almost always enchantress or rogue it. like cage is not a fool proof counter. he is countered by tech cards but also what deck can afford to plag him on thenlast turn of the game? not very many. especially if the opponents ajax still sits at 16 power just from their own cards and theyre playing out a more powerful turn 6. make an afflicted/clog mash up i can see it really annoying people. there are natural counters but i dont see why people are so quick to write this guy off as “ronan tier”😭
I’d agree with Alex and say the CopyCat week is S Tier, if missing all the cards.
As much as I have an interest in Ajax, i am committed to the Young Avengers. I have 5 keys, close to 6. Im looking forward to watching some Ajax gameplays from Snap content creators.
I love how SD planned the Ajax and Cassandra release being they go together so well 🤦🏻♂️
I really want cards where u can change a location u want or know what it's gonna become
Type of location is important part of Marvel Snap... can make u lose or win
And to manipulate them to a location u want...be awesome
Is anyone's Snap just not connecting whenever you load it up?
Ajax+Mystique could definitely good and interesting deck to play with, but not replace classic Devil-Dino+Mystique or current meta Dark Hawk+Mystique.
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I h tried once the board in the sand, worst fall in my life I have no equilibrium, I did a 360 with my body 😂😂
alex really wondering if Wanda named their kids wiccan and speed
Yes Luke Cage counters Ajax for half, but Rogue and Enchantress are kinda meta atm with all the Darkhawks so I dont see Luke being that big of a problem.
I mean you’re right but those both also hit Ajax so 😂
Id like to get ajax but I really have to save keys for cat