Went With Plastic Barrels For My Super Dust Deputy 5 Inch
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2020
- Finishing up the dust deputy install. Found some barrels on craigslist and decided to go with lightweight plastic ones that will be easy for me to handle. Also made a lift to compress the top hose.
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Love your gardening and diy's. Truly inspiring😊
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I'm always amazed to see your craftsmanship. Great job building that handle, this system will for sure work a lot better for you with less headaches.
Thanks. This definitely does a good job at separating out the fines. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic, you have it going your way now 👍👍. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
Should have done this in the first place. I made a mistake trying that new grizzly cyclone. Thanks for watching.
WOW! Brilliant configeration! Thanks for creating and sharing, this will be exceptionally beneficial. :)
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you're really inventive.
You have a lot of talent and imagination.
I look forward to your videos.
Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Just sharing ideas that work for me that may interest others. Thanks for watching.
Hands down the best setup for the 5” dust deputy I’ve seen. Nice work reinforcing the lid on that barrel. I skipped that step on my setup and have run into leak issues.
Thanks. This dust deputy has worked awesome since installing it. Not one issue with the barrels.
Just wish they made 75 gallon barrels so they wouldn't fill up so fast. Leaks down there can really lower the efficiency. Thanks for watching .
Another well thought out plan and great video.
Thanks. Looks like this dust deputy will work great. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for sharing your work!
Thanks for watching.
Awesome. I knew if I looked long enough I'd find something I can copy. Great work
Thanks. Still works great. Thanks for watching.
Love that system you put together.
Thanks. it works great for my needs. Thanks for watching.
Nice build! I learned so much. Thanks
Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video! I will reference this video as I build my dust collector!
This has worked great so far. Thanks for watching.
I love the lid lift idea!!
That makes it easy to change drums. Thanks for watching.
Awesome setup, we had flurries down state over the weekend this spring has been so cold this year.
Thanks. The only thing enjoying the cold is my kale. Hopefully the weather forecast is right and warmth is on the way. This is the latest that we have used the wood stove ever. Thanks for watching
Great job, good construction idea's.
Thanks. This dust deputy has worked great so far. Thanks for watching.
That lid lift is fantastic!! Nice work.
Thanks. It pretty much seals itself. Nice springy hose. Thanks for watching.
Very nice job, as always! 💪🖖
Thanks. This cyclone does a really good job at separating out the fine dust. Thanks for watching.
Wow, that cam rig is genius!
Thanks. Keep it simple. Thanks for watching.
Great idea you had for the lift handle.
Works great and with the springy hose the top doesn't really need clamping. Thanks for watching.
Awesome ! You've answered my own question about using one of these barrels !! You have a new subscriber !!
This has worked out great so far. Thanks for watching and subbing.
Very innovative stuff.
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Great shop enhancement.
Thanks. I am having much better performance from the dust deputy that makes it all worthwhile. Thanks for watching.
Neat method to swap the barrel, might steal your idea,👍👍👍
Just a simple over center cam that's easy to figure out. Thanks for watching.
very clever idea!
Thanks for watching.
Nice design and build! I have the Super DD XL (6" ports) on my Grizzly G0944 and did something similar with a smaller 20 gallon plastic sealed barrel.
Since my shop is in the basement and I only have limited headroom, the collector sits a little lower on the wall than typical. That meant I had to pipe in the DD a bit lower as well, thus the shorter barrel I could fit under it. I wound up just mounting the barrel's top to the plywood wall L-bracket I made the DD sits on and wedge the barrel up to meet it. No room for a flex hose between them. Just unclamp the top from the barrel and remove the small wedges to empty it.
It seals well enough to place a standard lawn-n-leaf trash bag into it to make changes super easy and not dusty at all.
The dust deputy's are definitely the most affordable solution for a home shop that actually work. Thanks for watching.
really good content thanks for sharing gave me some ideas for sure
The Dust Deputy works great. Thanks for watching.
There's always someone doing it smarter, better and faster than you are. This guy is one of them.
I have a similar barrel, but permanently mounted the lid and dust deputy to the wall. For cleaning, my barrel drops about 2" to the floor and is on rollers so it's easy to move. I just like this setup so much more.
I read that dust deputies work best with a section of hose between them and the barrel so I went this way. I doubt that it makes a difference. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 I went back and read what I originally wrote. I meant to say that I like your setup better than mine! :-)
Couldn't ask for a better setup, all the way around your shop!
Thanks. Hopefully this will solve my dust problems. All the machines also seem to have better suction now also. Thanks for watching.
Just finished watching your video. It just makes me feel like I'm not really trying, haha. Mine compared to yours that is. Love the cam mechanism you made to hold the covers down. Patent that and sell them. Great job.
That piece of springy hose is what made the cam possible. You could probably just use standard hose and a couple gas springs also. Over center cams are very easy to work out. Thanks for watching.
Great video. I'll be adding a pair of those lifting arms when I get 'a round toit.'
They make it easy to swap out the barrel. Thanks for watching.
I really like your lid lifter :) genius
I was lucky that the hose had enough spring in it to make everything work and lock right. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the viewing window idea. I just setup the same dust deputy with a smaller yellow barrel I got from Amazon and it is a pain to see if it is full or not.
You definitely don't want them to overfill. Can't see the level from across the room but it worked for me. Someday I want to add a sensor. This dust deputy is much more efficient then that grizzly cyclone. Thanks for watching.
Love the Cam handle... definately a step above fighting to get the Barrels open.
It works great with the stiff hose. Thanks for watching.
where can we get a drawing/outline of the cams. or a link where you can find some templets. TRhanks, Craig k910dog@gmail.com
That barrel looks just like mine. I think it's great.i wish I had added a window in mine. I overfilled it once. What a mess. Filled up my clean Wynn filter.
They are great barrels. The standard plastic ones he had were at least 25% heavier along with being taller, having thicker walls, and smaller diameter. I wanted metal but the weight of these sold me. Thanks for watching.
Awesome work keep it up brother
Thanks. Looks like this will work good. Thanks for watching.
Nice set up :) I've enjoyed your videos. I watched most all of them like a week ago. I would really love to see some shop tour videos. We've got to see some garden tours already. I just really like to see how folks set things up and deal with storage etc. Also really love your home solutions for kitchen etc. Great set up :)
Thanks. There is an old shop tour but I plan on a new one soon. I am in the process of moving things around to optimize the room. Thanks for watching
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Really cool. I was thinking if make something like this at the beginning of the video and accepting I probably can't by the middle of it.
It's just material handling hose that is available if you search. Thanks for watching.
Great job. I see a future upgrade to the manual hand crank with you motorizing it, so you only have push a buttons.
I have a little gear motor ready to go if this works out. We think alike. So far this dust deputy is doing a great job. Thanks for watching.
I like the cam to lift the lid. Very clever. I looked to see if I could do the same thing but I just don't have the height.
That hose is like a big coil spring and the cam makes it very easy to compress. Just trying to figure out if the barrel needs a ground wire or not. Thanks for watching.
Very controversial subject on the internet. Ground is probably not needed but can't hurt to add it.
great idea local wood shop uses the term chucky was here today when it comes to clean up
It's the biggest battle for a woodworker. Thanks for watching.
Wow, that's a lot of horse radish. Good job on the DC.
I am guessing they used it at the local Heluva cheese factory to make horseradish cheddar curds. The dust deputy works real good. Thanks for watching.
i know it is silly but i work primary with redwood so i bought a wood chipper and now i chip all my scraps. it keeps the shop clean and my wife loves the chips for use in the garden.
Mine go in the woodstove. Thanks for watching.
love it. but id like to see it with some fine dust like off a drum sander!
That's part of the plan and the main reason I switched over. The grizzly cyclone let most of the dust from my 24 inch thickness sander pass right through into the filter. Moving things around now to eventually switch over to one of the open thickness sanders that can do 3 ft wide. No big wood projects now as I am gearing up to get the garden started. Thanks for watching
I am just starting my woodworking adventure. I have ordered the Onefinity cnc and need to start my own wood collection. If you are still getting rid of wood maybe I could take it off your hands.
I just purchased the Harbor Freight 2hp dust collector and plan on modifying it as well. This video was great. I am planning on putting the motor in the attic above the garage but not sure how long my hose can be or how many drop downs I wilk be able to with this machine.
Made lots of nice kindling for the woodstove with a lot of it. A little sawmill is the best way to have access to high quality affordable lumber if you plan on doing a lot of woodworking. Mine paid for itself the first use. My blower is 2 hp and works great for my needs with this dust deputy. l just started building a new cnc router and this setup should handle it with no problem. Have fun. Thanks for watching.
Wow, that's a lot of horseradish! Can't believe you're still getting snow in mid May.
Somebody used 110 gallons of it. Glad they cleaned it out so I didn't have to cry. Thanks for watching.
Does a very nice build on the cam for the barrel
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Someone must have really liked horseradish to buy it in that quantity. A good find and nice and light as well.
I can't imagine removing the top when it was full. Brings tears to my eyes and makes me crave shrimp 😋. Thanks for watching.
imagine fresh horseradish 200 lbs respirator work
For taking stickers of I use WD40. It is really effective and I always have some at hand. For some of the plastic film labels, a little heat from a heat gun will loosen them and leave no residue at all.
I can't use wd40 in the house anymore. My wife's chemical sensitivity cannot tolerate any of it. Thanks for watching.
very nice
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First of all...........fantastic. I have the same 2hp single stage and found your video in my search for how to do a conversion configured for a unique space. I love your thoroughness and your casual demeanor. It really makes this valuable. Secondly you mentioned that Grizzly did not recommend turning the motor on its side. Have you had a chance to log enough time on the new setup to determine if the unconventional position is a problem? Thanks again.
It has been fine so far and it runs for a couple hours with the cnc router without a problem yet. I really haven't worried about it because I will just buy a US motor if it goes. The dust deputy works great. Thanks for watching.
Awesome work, almost like my setup, I wonder though what your thoughts are of using 4” instead of 6” up to the tools then down to 4”
I use 4 inch for everything but someday want to go to 5 Inch main. 6 Inch needs 2 - 4 inch gates open and my blower can't handle that.Thanks for watching.
So many great ideas in this video! I am currently setting up my two-stage system and was looking to use a 5-gal bucket on the filter too and come across your video, but then I had an idea which I'm not sure is silly or not so I thought I'd ask you first...
If my cyclone+collection drum is positioned right next to my filter, instead of having a 5gal bucket to collect the fine filter dust, do you think I could run a pipe that goes from the bottom of the filter and back into the same chip collector drum that the cyclone drops its chips into? So basically, one drum for both... I'm just not sure if that would have an impact on the performance of the cyclone, etc.? Like yours, I would have quite a bit of flex hose between the cyclone and the drum, so I was thinking of running a Wye off that hose at the top of the drum and connecting it back up to the bottom of the filter. What do you think?
Any air in the bottom drum and the cyclone is worthless. You need perfect seal for it to work. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Thanks for the quick answer!
Great idea and execution! How does the little window work out? Are you able to see down inside well enough or does it get too dusty to see?
I use a flashlight and can see fine. Thanks for watching.
Can you please provide a drawing (templet) for the wood cams you made. I have almost the same set up but am having to use springs and hooks to raise the lid. Your way looks great. NO CNC machine for me but I am prettu good with a "jig" saw. Thank you
its very simple. There are 3 pivot points and to lock open you have to place the center one so when open the other 2 are behind it. Simple over center cam. Lay it out on cardboard and you will see. Thanks for watching.
Impressive build. Curios where you found that 8" hose for the lift part.
It was a cutoff from my cyclone rake. There are companies that sell it by the foot if you search. Thanks for watching.
Any particular reason you moved the filter so far away from the motor assembly? Always enjoy your videos and creations.
To get some of the noise as far away from the machines as possible. Thanks for watching.
I love your videos and was going to build my own dust collecting system similar to yours, however I was wondering if I can avoid the purchase of a filter, by porting the exhaust through the wall?
Check with your local building codes. Most won't allow you to pull a vacuum in your house without a replacement source for exhaust so fumes from things like furnaces don't get sucked into the house. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 thanks- makes sense, my garage is definitely not air tight, so make up air shouldn't be a problem but I will definitely check it out with them. Do you have a video about your filter set up in case its not allowed?
its the first video about installing the system. Back just a little way.
Great engineering. Do you have any paper templates for the lift mechanism for the barrel lid? Would love a set if available.
It is just a very simple over center cam that really doesn't need a template. Thanks for watching.
Me too!
Great job on the vid, Thanks! it's 3 years later... How is your motor holding up after mounting it vertically? Any issues? How much have you used it in the 3 years?
Still no problems. It doesn't see heavy usage. If you have an old blower this is still working. If you are buying new get the better motor. Thanks for watching.
Thank you. My project is nearly identical and I was puzzled about a lid lifting mechanism. Any recommendations about patterns or parameters to build a cyclone to handle a 3Hp, 6" inlet system?
That will require bigger ducts and a cyclone rated for the cfm you will be using. Every 4 inch gate will flow 350 to 400 cfm depending on duct work and blower capabilities. This cyclone is perfect for my 2 hp blower. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Yeah, but where did you find the pattern for the 5" cyclone? Or did you originate it following some formula? My hope is that I'll find a lead on how to do the same for 6". Anybody?
Really nice setup. Thanks for the video. Any idea how much CFM air flow was lost when you added the dust deputy?
I don't think any was lost. I only open one 4 inch gate at a time that is only using 1/3 of the available CFM of the blower and this blower has a good static pressure rating. My 4 inch lines account for the biggest loss. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 I was just curious. Others have reported ~30-50% cfm loss when adding the dust deputy into the system
If you have a blower with a low static pressure rating you will see large losses. I think mine is rated 16 inches max sp
Very nice job. You did use the motor from the Grizzly right? Why is it so much quieter? Thanks.
Yes the 2 hp blower. I moved half of the sound back to that corner and the wood rack seems to absorb much of it plus sounds drop off the further you are from the source. I have some sound measurements in the next video. Thanks for watching.
Wow what a great video! Sir you are an amazing wealth on information. I to am looking to do something similar. I am converting a 2 hp Grizzly Dust Collector to a cyclone. I was looking for information on the Dust Deputy XL as I was thinking about using that one for my build. That is how I found your video. You got me thinking the XL might be to big for the 2 hp blower. Can I ask what size duct you are running as trunk line? I plan on stepping down to 4" for the machines. So five down to 4 instead of 6 down to 4? Awsome video. Thanks for sharing.
I am only running 4 inch duct now but plan on upgrading to 5 someday. My 2 hp blower can only really handle one 4 inch gate open at a time so I figured that to be about 400 cfm max through the dust deputy and the xl had a minimum higher then that so I went with the super. You could always contact Oneida to see what they recommend for your runs. I understand if you upgrade to 6 inch mains you need 2- 4 inch gate valves open to keep the chips suspended. This works great for me so far. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 So sounds like it would be prudent to go with the 5" Dust Deputy instead of the 6" XL, as I have the same blower as you. As I have a small amount of 6" duct I wonder if there would be issues running that as a trunk line and using 5" as the drops with a short piece of 4" flex to the machine? Thank you again for your time. Jeff
Contact Oneida because I feel 6 is to large for single 4 inch gates and my blower.
Can you tell me what model filter and filter housing you are using please. I like the idea of the paddle inside that loosens dust up.
It came on my grizzly 2 hp dust collector. I think they have many different sizes .Thanks for watching.
Actually Bill Pence, the dust collection expert, recommends not using the paddle type. They wear out your filter more quickly. Just use an air hose to blow from the outside, especially with a cyclone since very little dust is going to make it to the filter.
Your cam lift is very nice. With the blower going atmospheric pressure acts against the negative pressure in the drum forces the lid onto its seal with an astounding force. The spring in the ducting is negligible in comparison.
The spring in the tube is just enough to flatten the lip on the plastic lid to keep initial start up air leaks from being a problem. Dust Deputy works great so far. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Gotcha. Good point.
Do you by chance happen to still have the code for the handles? I would be interested in purchasing it if that's possible.
I think I have the dwg files on that computer but it is all torn apart now to move and rebuild the router with better linear slides and ball screws. It will be a while till it is fired up again. Thanks for watching.
Mmmmm... 55g barrel of horseradish... That would probably be a lifetime supply of horseradish... That would make a whole lot of cocktail sauce for shrimp... Yum....
Oh, BTW, a pressure washer works great for removing the stickers off those barrels...
Just the thought of 55 gallons of horseradish brings tears to my eyes. Now I have a craving for it and have to go out and dig some up soon. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 -- Yeah, I was definitely tempted to go up to the local market and get a couple of pounds of shrimp... I have some horseradish that I picked up when I was last in the UK that I preserved with some vinegar over there and brought back (thus bypassing the restrictions on bringing back "fresh fruits and vegetables")... For some reason, I hadn't been able to find any fresh horseradish locally... You would think that in a city as large as Houston, it wouldn't be that difficult to find, but for some reason I could not... I stumbled across some in a grocery store either in the UK or Ireland for about 1 GBP or 1 Euro for a piece that was maybe half a kilo in size...
Decided to make fajitas instead though since I had some milk that was getting towards it's expiration date... Tortillas made with milk, salt, and a bit of baking soda are more like an Indian nom since they rise slightly...
I have a batch growing in the garden I have to start digging. You should check farmers markets as it will grow anywhere.
Would you happen to have a link for the for the filter you are using? Is that a bucket you can buy or do you have plans to build it?
No link it's just from my old grizzly dust collector and I had to modify it. I think oneida sells filters. Thanks for watching.
How hard is to learn to use the drawing s program and use a CNC. Would live to but scared me to think of trying. Wish there was somewhere to go and learn on hand.
It takes some time to learn to use any program. For CNC routing you may want to look at V Carve. It seems to be the easiest program to get started with and handles the cam end in the background. They have a demo version you could try. Thanks for watching.
Where could a person buy the hose that you used? Did you get it online and if so where?
Mine was a cutoff from my cyclone rake hose. Any 8 inch id spiral hose should work. I usually find things like this at McMaster carr. Thanks for watching.
I didn't hear where you got that hose between your cyclone and dust drum. Id like to find one and google is no help. Thanks
It was a cutoff from my cyclone rake hose. I think McMaster Carr has similar material handling hose by the foot. Thanks for watching.
Wouldn't the plastic barrel cause a static issue with possible sparking?
The entire lenght of all pipes have 12 ga braided bare copper in them that is terminated on each machine through the flex drops and then all tied back to the cyclone ground and frame. Haven't seen any problem yet. I think the cyclone has a conductive additive to the plastic also. No real friction in the drum as the chips fall.
Where you guys get that big round filter?
You buy a dust collector with one. Thanks for watching.
Does it cause any static and if so how do you deal with it?
I have braided ground wires through all the pipes tied to the machines and blower to discharge static from plastic. Also a ground wire to the drum lid. Haven't had a problem yet . Metal pipes and cyclone are the best option if you have the money for a home shop and are requiredfor a commercial shop. Thanks for watching.
So can you put a large garbage bag in the barrel to catch the dust? or will that be swirled to death?
You would have to put a spacer and vacuum hose to the bottom and figure out how to get a perfect seal at the lid. Thanks for watching.
Can you put a plastic bag in the blue bin or would it get sucked up into the dust deputy?
I think you would need a weight but not sure. As long as the lid seal is perfect it should stay down. Try it and you will know for sure. Thanks for watching.
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Where did you get the springy flex hose?
Cutoff from my cyclone rake. It's available online. Search for material handling hose. Thanks for watching.
... and the next day, you rested. 😁
Hoping to be able to work outside tomorrow. We have been having crazy weather. In the 20s again tonight and the farmers are worried about the fruit crops with this cold. Thanks for watching.
Still working good for you?
Still works great. I highly recommend the dust deputy. Thanks for watching.
Sodid he throw in some horseradish also?
That would have been nice. Have to dig some of mine up and have a good cry grating it. Thanks for watching.
Can I have the cnc file for the handles? Thanks
Those files are all gone when Fusion shut down the free account. Only should take 5 minutes to work out. Thanks for watching.
The crack could be the result of an imploding system, because of a missing pressure valve?
Well, I thought the filter is used to prevent dust getting into the lungs which makes it kinda weird to blow the dust around while cleaning the filter without wearing a mask?!
Thanks for watching.
Do you have a pattern or plans for your cam lever?
No. It's just a simple over center cam anyone should be able to figure out based on their system dimensions. Everyone's will be different. Thanks for watching.
Any chance you could tell me what size flex hose you used and where it is available from?
Really like how you set it up and I want to set mine up similar
Thanks
It was leftover 8 inch hose from my cyclone rake. I don't think they just sell a foot.
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Please explain to me how you’re going to deal with the static electricity from the sawdust moving over the surface of the plastic? You better have one hell of a grounding system😂
There's a 12 gauge wire inside all the pipes grounded back to the box and each machine. 12 years now with no problems. Thanks for watching.
There has never been a small shop explosion caused by static electricity. My entire shop dust collection is 6" and 4" pvc into a Clearvue dust collector. I also have a small grounding wire on the outside of my piping, secured with self-tapping screws through the piping wall. I don't have any problems with static. Check out billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/ for the most comprehensive research ever done on dust and dust collection.
the fine dust that can hurt you is totally invisible though right? so that filter is filled with invisible deadly wood dust imo. blowing it out is extremely hazzardous and counter productive.
It's 1 micron. Cleaner then the air outside. Thanks for watching.
Why are you the ONLY person I see on RUclips with the under 13 warning for each video?
Because RUclips gives you no way to verify the age of the viewer and runs targeted adds against videos that are not made for kids. Thanks for watching.
You should ground this dust collection system. Since saw dust flow causes friction and one spark could start a fire. It would be a shame to see this fine work go up in smoke!
Its all grounded. 12 ga wire in all pipes terminated at each machine and grounded to my earth ground. There's a video way back showing the grounding. Thanks for watching.
that wasn't a crack, its from manufacturing process.. called a seam.
That 1 inch section at the bottom definitely was cracked through. Thanks for watching.
Scrap??!! I call that inventory!
I guess that I burned 6 of those giant rubbermaid containers of inventory the last couple weeks then. Just trying to free up room. There's plenty more growing in the backyard 😉. I do save the exotic scraps no matter how small they are. Thanks for watching.
Food grade barrels
The other plastic barrels he had were food grade also but at least 25% heavier in weight and different size. Don't see any static problems so they should work great. Thanks for watching.
Got to cnc stop watching
Then you missed the best part for not being open to modern technology. Thanks for watching.