Hello! I'm very happy to welcome all the new subscribers especially those from @thelunglengshow. I talk about philosophy, psychology and religion related topics - please feel free to bring your arguments and opinions. Mr. Tadar Pinia Baba, thank you mate for your help in recording. Thank you for watching. I'll bring video on Freewill too.
How is luck an illusion? I'm totally against your content because it's just some irrational elaboration of life. If luck is illusion then how? We have freedom of speech but it doesn't mean we have to talks everything. Likewise, God allows us to chose freely or free will because humans are not computer . The reason why God allow free will is because humans are created in His likeness (not a robot). If we don't have free will then our human life will be moreover like a computer or a robot. I don't have any personal issues with you but i have a very big issue with your understanding of free will. Waiting for your reply..
@@Christian-Knights Hey, I'll be happy to answer to your question in the next video. Moreover, I would love to hear from if you would give one logical argument that luck is not an illusion. Thank you
Machines are made to be precise, calculating every move. That's where we draw the lines between humans and machines. The flaws and distractions are just part of life. The application of such thoughts is subjective.
You have "free will" to have 'determinism' it means to make it something happen you determine of thinking it , that is-( determinism) .Free will always existed first Because of "free will" you have the right to "determine" things . Determinism is a kind of authoritarian and free will is like a democratic form of goverment . You may determine of giving accurate answer but do you have the free will to say it or not 🚫.
Nobody is controlling nobody with the remote. Free will is free, there's nothing to be determined or illusions. It's a choice of how humans behave or think.
@@lifelonglearninglllscientists cannot proof anything bro. They examine the created things only whereas the Creator is God. If you believe in science then tell me how humans come into existence? Proof me how humanity start according to science.
If our choices are just the outcome of brain chemistry, genetics, and external factors, it seems like we don't truly have free will. But as convincing as your argument is, I still can't come to terms with certain questions. For eg. If free will doesn't exist, how can we hold people accountable for their actions? For example: If someone commits a crime, can they really be blamed if their actions were predetermined by their upbringing or neural processes? How can punishment be just if individuals don't freely choose their behaviors? Why bother making an effort if the future is already set? I'd really like to know if it's possibleto find a way to harmonize determinism and free will?
@@RomanReign-h2f No, no, yours is a very good argument. I do consider that in favour of free will. I will try to touch your question in my next video buddy :) Thank you
That's a good question. The concept of the uncaused cause can come in, which is inextricably close to the existence of God. But in mindless universe, it has to start from the Big Bang. Infinite regression cannot be addressed without the ultimate purpose of life and the divine order. But hey! Free will will make sense there.
@lifelonglearninglll I believe that big bang itself is a pointer toward a Mind given the incredibly and perfectly fined tuned universe it engendered by that very event. It is very encouraging that we are beginning to engage in such big questions though we will never arrive at completely agreed positions. Way to Go!
Hey! That's actually an interesting question. Determinism can be considered in the absence of God as well as in the presence of God. But in Darwinists world of determinism we cannot expect morality to exist. I will bring video in defense of free will very soon, and I hope it will make the concepts clear. Thank you for your question.
@@lifelonglearninglll can u in the next video address how we can hold someone culpable of their actions....or whether a person is really wrong when they commit immorality?..
@@vekhruzonyekha622My friend, just to make my state clear, I'm simply trying to make both the concepts clear and not lean towards one. But surely, I can talk about accountability in the video on free will.
@lifelonglearninglll Art for art's sake” is a philosophy that art should be judged on its own merits, and that it is independent of social, political, or moral values.
Freewill vs Determinism *Everybody is free to do what they want and they make choices using the power of freewill* Yes scientific claims may say this otherwise, I don't blame them. But the problem with us humans is mis-positioning our concern between Determinism and Freewill. We should always know that Science does not make claims, "Science is simply a means of substantiating hypothesis with a margin of error" Even those hypothesis are made based on human subjective freewill to carry out test and projects. One tragedy with scientific materialism is, if we take its assumptions, we are not FREE we are totally determined. So if we are only determined, are you free to make this video?? Am I free to make this comment??? If you and i are totally determined we are pre-wired to think the way we do. Example- "NATURE vs NURTURE" Regardless nurture may provide a different environment but nature is our heart wired to come on this conclusion. "Out of flux nothing but flux" What you put in the computer, it will come out as expected. But for You and I, we have to ask ourselves, are we making a truth claim?? If we are making a truth claim we are rising about the bondage of total subjectivity. And the moment we make a truth claim we are violating DETERMINISM..
No freedom really escapes the laws of nature. It's not easy to deconstruct the science of determinism. But hey! I appreciate your thought sharing. Just to be clear, this video is simply to make the concepts clear.
@@lifelonglearninglllThank you for replying. "Freedom escapes the law of nature" I did not quite grasp your statement since there's no explanation, which could be ambiguous. So can you please elaborate In what ways freedom escape law of nature? And How? I'm quite intrigued. Thank you
@@dvsnow210 Buddy, it's “no freedom really escapes the laws of nature.” In scientific reductionism there is no effect without cause, and there is always a reaction for every action. I totally understand your state, that life runs beyond logic. But in defense of determinism, there is no freedom that's free enough. We cannot think of single uncaused cause, unless we bring in God. As I mentioned in the video, I'm bringing a video on free will too. I hope that'll make my state clear :) Thank you.
@@lifelonglearninglllMy apologies buddy, I thought I saw a punctuation mark after the word (NO, freedom escapes) etc "No freedom really escapes the law of nature" In this case I agree with you Other than that I have no dispute about anything. My first comment was simply a clarification on why we humans are not ruled by determinism alone.
Hello!
I'm very happy to welcome all the new subscribers especially those from @thelunglengshow.
I talk about philosophy, psychology and religion related topics - please feel free to bring your arguments and opinions.
Mr. Tadar Pinia Baba, thank you mate for your help in recording.
Thank you for watching.
I'll bring video on Freewill too.
I want to debate with you 🎉❤
@@mrtac97 I wouldn't say no :)
How is luck an illusion?
I'm totally against your content because it's just some irrational elaboration of life.
If luck is illusion then how? We have freedom of speech but it doesn't mean we have to talks everything. Likewise, God allows us to chose freely or free will because humans are not computer . The reason why God allow free will is because humans are created in His likeness (not a robot). If we don't have free will then our human life will be moreover like a computer or a robot.
I don't have any personal issues with you but i have a very big issue with your understanding of free will. Waiting for your reply..
@@Christian-Knights Hey, I'll be happy to answer to your question in the next video.
Moreover, I would love to hear from if you would give one logical argument that luck is not an illusion.
Thank you
@lifelonglearninglll I asked to you! And you are asking me? Sorry but no sorry..
New subscriber from Lunleng show👍
Hii... Happy to welcome.
Machines are made to be precise, calculating every move. That's where we draw the lines between humans and machines. The flaws and distractions are just part of life. The application of such thoughts is subjective.
@@Rex-lp1dl Agreed :)
There is no denying that the argument of determinism is strong.
@@kros8322 true
While we are free to choose our actions,
we are not free to choose the consequences of our actions.
@@Walæng Agreed:)
Free will and determinism both go hand in hand
We can say that :)
Though it can still be debatable, that was a clear layout of determinism Ling.
Would love to listen to what you think of free will.
Thank you bud. Coming very soon
You have "free will" to have 'determinism' it means to make it something happen you determine of thinking it , that is-( determinism) .Free will always existed first Because of "free will" you have the right to "determine" things . Determinism is a kind of authoritarian and free will is like a democratic form of goverment . You may determine of giving accurate answer but do you have the free will to say it or not 🚫.
Good explanation bro 👍 👏 tq
So nice of you
Nobody is controlling nobody with the remote. Free will is free, there's nothing to be determined or illusions. It's a choice of how humans behave or think.
But scientific reductionism would consider that unintelligible.
Just for argument sake :)
@@lifelonglearninglll yes great 👍
@@lifelonglearninglllscientists cannot proof anything bro. They examine the created things only whereas the Creator is God.
If you believe in science then tell me how humans come into existence? Proof me how humanity start according to science.
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Hayy... that's interesting.
I'm here in Ramei 😁
@lifelonglearninglll cool 😁
Worth watching 🎉
Glad 🙏
If our choices are just the outcome of brain chemistry, genetics, and external factors, it seems like we don't truly have free will.
But as convincing as your argument is, I still can't come to terms with certain questions. For eg. If free will doesn't exist, how can we hold people accountable for their actions? For example: If someone commits a crime, can they really be blamed if their actions were predetermined by their upbringing or neural processes? How can punishment be just if individuals don't freely choose their behaviors? Why bother making an effort if the future is already set?
I'd really like to know if it's possibleto find a way to harmonize determinism and free will?
@@RomanReign-h2f No, no, yours is a very good argument. I do consider that in favour of free will. I will try to touch your question in my next video buddy :)
Thank you
Of course we have free will, we have no choice but to have free will.
If everything has a cause, what then caused the first cause? And how do you approach the problems of infinite regression?
That's a good question.
The concept of the uncaused cause can come in, which is inextricably close to the existence of God.
But in mindless universe, it has to start from the Big Bang.
Infinite regression cannot be addressed without the ultimate purpose of life and the divine order.
But hey! Free will will make sense there.
@lifelonglearninglll I believe that big bang itself is a pointer toward a Mind given the incredibly and perfectly fined tuned universe it engendered by that very event.
It is very encouraging that we are beginning to engage in such big questions though we will never arrive at completely agreed positions.
Way to Go!
@johnsangtamanar2869 I appreciate that .
New subscriber brother 👍👍👍 rooting for more videos,❤❤❤
Thank you very much
Bring more videos
@@pungommeyo2883 I will
New subscriber ✌️
Hey welcome.
Thank you for showing interest 🍀
New subscriber here bro ❤
@@chunglisesangtam9941 Hay! Welcome
I'll value that 🍀
What a accent bro.
Accepted or perfect accent is an illusion😂
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How do u compile determinism with morality...
Hey! That's actually an interesting question.
Determinism can be considered in the absence of God as well as in the presence of God. But in Darwinists world of determinism we cannot expect morality to exist.
I will bring video in defense of free will very soon, and I hope it will make the concepts clear.
Thank you for your question.
@lifelonglearninglll so bro is a calvinist?... interesting
@@vekhruzonyekha622 hahah I might sound calvinist, but I'm not. I am trying to make the concepts clear that's it.
@@lifelonglearninglll can u in the next video address how we can hold someone culpable of their actions....or whether a person is really wrong when they commit immorality?..
@@vekhruzonyekha622My friend, just to make my state clear, I'm simply trying to make both the concepts clear and not lean towards one.
But surely, I can talk about accountability in the video on free will.
Thoughts on Art for art's sake? Possibly in another video.
My friend, what do you mean exactly?
@lifelonglearninglll It's a French philosophy. I just want to get your opinion on that but nevermind.
@lifelonglearninglll Art for art's sake” is a philosophy that art should be judged on its own merits, and that it is independent of social, political, or moral values.
I was not aware of that. I'll study on that, and why not, I'll try to bring a video on that.
Thank you for introducing.
@@lifelonglearninglll Much love brother. Also I love your arguments on free will.
Freewill vs Determinism
*Everybody is free to do what they want and they make choices using the power of freewill*
Yes scientific claims may say this otherwise, I don't blame them. But the problem with us humans is mis-positioning our concern between Determinism and Freewill. We should always know that Science does not make claims, "Science is simply a means of substantiating hypothesis with a margin of error" Even those hypothesis are made based on human subjective freewill to carry out test and projects.
One tragedy with scientific materialism is, if we take its assumptions, we are not FREE we are totally determined. So if we are only determined, are you free to make this video?? Am I free to make this comment???
If you and i are totally determined we are pre-wired to think the way we do.
Example- "NATURE vs NURTURE"
Regardless nurture may provide a different environment but nature is our heart wired to come on this conclusion.
"Out of flux nothing but flux" What you put in the computer, it will come out as expected.
But for You and I, we have to ask ourselves, are we making a truth claim??
If we are making a truth claim we are rising about the bondage of total subjectivity. And the moment we make a truth claim we are violating DETERMINISM..
No freedom really escapes the laws of nature. It's not easy to deconstruct the science of determinism.
But hey! I appreciate your thought sharing.
Just to be clear, this video is simply to make the concepts clear.
@@lifelonglearninglllThank you for replying.
"Freedom escapes the law of nature"
I did not quite grasp your statement since there's no explanation, which could be ambiguous.
So can you please elaborate
In what ways freedom escape law of nature?
And How?
I'm quite intrigued.
Thank you
@@dvsnow210 Buddy, it's “no freedom really escapes the laws of nature.” In scientific reductionism there is no effect without cause, and there is always a reaction for every action. I totally understand your state, that life runs beyond logic. But in defense of determinism, there is no freedom that's free enough. We cannot think of single uncaused cause, unless we bring in God.
As I mentioned in the video, I'm bringing a video on free will too. I hope that'll make my state clear :)
Thank you.
@@lifelonglearninglllMy apologies buddy, I thought I saw a punctuation mark after the word (NO, freedom escapes) etc
"No freedom really escapes the law of nature"
In this case I agree with you
Other than that I have no dispute about anything.
My first comment was simply a clarification on why we humans are not ruled by determinism alone.
@dvsnow210 Hey!
I like your approach Sir. These kind of videos will be incomplete without questions and clarification.
Thank you again
I THINK YOU WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH LUNGLENG ANSWER... 🤣
Not really 😁.
His answer was good in its own way. I just thought it would be interesting to cover both side of the argument.
Yes indeed, it shows how backward he is, maybe he got is degree in backdoor... Probably
Please learn on your english speaking then u will grow more bro
@@motivation_station256 It won't be “learn your” it should be improve your :)
But hey, thank you. I'll take that constructively.