I haven't tried the NB5, but the Ride 17 has really outperformed my expectations, and is in my current rotation with the Superblast 2 and Mach 6. While the SB2 is probably my favorite, the R17 competes surprisingly well in most aspects. The $60 list price difference is most apparent in the SB2's greater responsiveness, but the R17 is no slouch there. If I wanted one shoe for everything except racing, it'd be a solid option, especially for the price.
Saucony offer great versatility in their range. The R17 or ES4 always come out strongly for usability. ASICS appear to offer greater distinction in their tools and seem to attract more preferences from faster runners. If money was no object and you were after a five shoe rotation I think ASICS have nudged ahead of Saucony over the past 18months…
I like the ride 17. Used it for everything, easy, tempo, long runs, off road, and parkruns. I’ve got no issues with cadence turnover either. Thanks guys. Great channel too. 👍
Is it just me or the ride 17 feels a bit hard and hurts my feet more... My first saucony daily shoe. Does it take time to break in? I've worn it twice As reference right now I have NB 1080v13 and puma DN3 and they feel more bouncier and feel better to run in. I'm an overweight beginner runner
@jlj1117 Have you tried both shoes or do you just go by whatever youtubers say? Most people would be better off with something lower like the Ride 17 tbh. I find these stupidly high shoes a bit meh. First off, they look ridiculous. And second, it feels weird being that high off the ground.
It seems to be that with a few exceptions there are quite good running shoes to be had from most brands in most categories, and what shoe one might think is 'best' comes down to individual preference.
A reviewer from elsewhere slammed the new Ride 18 for being too similar to the Ride 17. Other reviews of other shoes have criticised updates for being too different - changing parts of the shoe unnecessarily that worked well. I think you can see my point :) The new Ride 18 is on my immediate radar. The 17 is a good shoe. Why would they make lots of big changes for the 18?
I still wear the Ride 13 I got in 2021 for walking after retiring it from my running rotation, and it’s amazing how much different the Ride 17 foam is. The Ride 13 midsole feels like a a brick by comparison.
Yeah, that's a ridiculous take on a shoe especially when the update drops the weight quite a bit. As time goes by the number of reviewers I'll bother with is shrinking.
I feel like Asics made a wrong choice in utilizing FFBlast Max. I feel like they should have used it for the Nimbus 27, and left the Novablast using FFBlast+ with a slight retooling. I prefer the NB4 over the NB5 due to the 4’s versatility and responsiveness, which is how the Novablast should be. The Nimbus is for the soft, comfortable, long mileage shoe, which would fit FFBlast Max perfectly. That being said, I do prefer the beaded TPU midsole foams like PWRRUN+ and LightBoost. They’ve always worked well for me during all types of runs. Comparing the Ride 17 and Ultraboost 5X, I actually liked the Ultraboost better, especially since you can find the UB on sale and use additional discount codes as well.
I have had previous versions of both shoes and I would go with the Saucony ride again that yellow colour way is great, you could have waited for the ride 18 for a more updated comparison
Novablast 5 €150 everywhere I live but scored a pair of Ride 17’s for just under €85 delivered. Easy decision plus the fact that based on this comparison, the Saucony’s are more suited to my needs!
That's interesting that you say the Ride 17 doesn't do well for you on Easy Runs. I have the Triumph 20 with the same PR Plus foam and though it's marketed as an easy day shoe, it feels sooo much better on tempo runs.
Is wide version significantly wide or just slightly wider? I feel that this shoe might be slightly tight in toe box area for me but Ive never dealt with wide versions.
I was able to try the Novablast in a store. They fit better than the previous versions which were too long. The sole is really comfortable. But used to running with Altra, this big sole under the heel seems a bit useless to me, I would have liked a lower drop like the Asics Trabuco Max 2 that I also use in trail running, and therefore a little more sole height under the forefoot / midfoot.
I’m a fan of the beaded tpu foams for me as a bigger runner that puts more force into foams the Adidas boost and this saucony power run plus are good workhorse daily foams . I am curious about the new mizuno neo zen foam I think is tpu and pumas aliphatic tpu might be new advances to a durable material .
Really strongly prefer the videos where you have a conversation. With these, segments are either repetitive because you all agree or else you contradict each other and you don’t talk through why you had different experiences, so I have no idea what to take away.
It is odd that Asics would turn the nova blast five into a soft easy run shoe for the most part. The Nimbus is designed for that. Why would they do that to an 8.9 ounce shoe makes no sense.
Absolutely agree with that. If they would make it less cush then its similar to the cumulus. They should make it less plush and less stack in my opinion to differentiate it.
Ride 17 largely seen as a fail by most reviewers; I’d rather see you compare NB5 vs 4 and maybe DynaBlast 5, which is NivaBlast 3 with improved upper for just $120.
Hi! Would the Clifton 9 be compatible with the new Novablast? I bought mine few days ago and I'm wondering should I wait for the Novablast 5. I tried the 4 and didnt like it. It felt like a squishy unstable shue to me.
For me, Novablast 5 is too soft for a daily trainer shoe. That cushion won't last for sure. Novablast 4 is better, durability, stability and balance cushion.
@@Matthew-px9nu how much your weight? plan to get novablast 5 for marathon training but lil worry the shoes will bottom out over time. im 5'9 and 160lbs
@@abdiwijoyoc 165 … I like them for sure fun shoe , I run a lot in them … just may be a tad soft in midfoot but not deal breaker… I am running 4-5 min per km
I haven't tried the NB5, but the Ride 17 has really outperformed my expectations, and is in my current rotation with the Superblast 2 and Mach 6. While the SB2 is probably my favorite, the R17 competes surprisingly well in most aspects. The $60 list price difference is most apparent in the SB2's greater responsiveness, but the R17 is no slouch there. If I wanted one shoe for everything except racing, it'd be a solid option, especially for the price.
Saucony offer great versatility in their range. The R17 or ES4 always come out strongly for usability. ASICS appear to offer greater distinction in their tools and seem to attract more preferences from faster runners. If money was no object and you were after a five shoe rotation I think ASICS have nudged ahead of Saucony over the past 18months…
I like the ride 17. Used it for everything, easy, tempo, long runs, off road, and parkruns. I’ve got no issues with cadence turnover either. Thanks guys. Great channel too. 👍
Better option Novablast 5
Is it just me or the ride 17 feels a bit hard and hurts my feet more... My first saucony daily shoe. Does it take time to break in? I've worn it twice
As reference right now I have NB 1080v13 and puma DN3 and they feel more bouncier and feel better to run in. I'm an overweight beginner runner
@jlj1117 Have you tried both shoes or do you just go by whatever youtubers say? Most people would be better off with something lower like the Ride 17 tbh. I find these stupidly high shoes a bit meh. First off, they look ridiculous. And second, it feels weird being that high off the ground.
@@3ildcard I agree with your statements but my feet says otherwise hahaha.
As I was a beginner I was afraid of tall, high heel drop shoes... Tried
It seems to be that with a few exceptions there are quite good running shoes to be had from most brands in most categories, and what shoe one might think is 'best' comes down to individual preference.
A reviewer from elsewhere slammed the new Ride 18 for being too similar to the Ride 17. Other reviews of other shoes have criticised updates for being too different - changing parts of the shoe unnecessarily that worked well. I think you can see my point :) The new Ride 18 is on my immediate radar. The 17 is a good shoe. Why would they make lots of big changes for the 18?
I still wear the Ride 13 I got in 2021 for walking after retiring it from my running rotation, and it’s amazing how much different the Ride 17 foam is. The Ride 13 midsole feels like a a brick by comparison.
Yeah, that's a ridiculous take on a shoe especially when the update drops the weight quite a bit. As time goes by the number of reviewers I'll bother with is shrinking.
I feel like Asics made a wrong choice in utilizing FFBlast Max. I feel like they should have used it for the Nimbus 27, and left the Novablast using FFBlast+ with a slight retooling. I prefer the NB4 over the NB5 due to the 4’s versatility and responsiveness, which is how the Novablast should be. The Nimbus is for the soft, comfortable, long mileage shoe, which would fit FFBlast Max perfectly.
That being said, I do prefer the beaded TPU midsole foams like PWRRUN+ and LightBoost. They’ve always worked well for me during all types of runs. Comparing the Ride 17 and Ultraboost 5X, I actually liked the Ultraboost better, especially since you can find the UB on sale and use additional discount codes as well.
@ I haven’t. Hoka’s usually run narrow on me. If they have them in wide, I’ll give them a try. I’m usually standard in every other brand.
Kieran running with the duck stance always kills me !!!
Good to see you well rested Kieran, apparently yesterday's hangover marathon is a great way to get rid of toxins! 🧐
Kieran your last few videos have terrible audio quality. Think you need a new mic!
Maybe one arrived for Christmas!
I have had previous versions of both shoes and I would go with the Saucony ride again that yellow colour way is great, you could have waited for the ride 18 for a more updated comparison
Novablast 5 €150 everywhere I live but scored a pair of Ride 17’s for just under €85 delivered. Easy decision plus the fact that based on this comparison, the Saucony’s are more suited to my needs!
That's interesting that you say the Ride 17 doesn't do well for you on Easy Runs. I have the Triumph 20 with the same PR Plus foam and though it's marketed as an easy day shoe, it feels sooo much better on tempo runs.
Agreed. Everyone says Triumph 20/21 are long distance cruisers, I find it better at 5k tempo paces. I use the Nimbus 25 for recovery days.
@ absolutely… the heel gets in the way and the foam feels too unstable at slow paces.
Just ordered the Ride 17 Wide on sale for $100CAD ($70USD). For that price as long as they fit I’ll pick them every time!
Is wide version significantly wide or just slightly wider? I feel that this shoe might be slightly tight in toe box area for me but Ive never dealt with wide versions.
@@proudbacteria1373 Not wide enough, it turns out. The mid-foot was fine but the toebox taper is ridiculous and I had to return them.
You guys got the ride 18 in yet for testing?
Definitively the Ride 17. Let’s see how the 18th will be
I was able to try the Novablast in a store. They fit better than the previous versions which were too long. The sole is really comfortable. But used to running with Altra, this big sole under the heel seems a bit useless to me, I would have liked a lower drop like the Asics Trabuco Max 2 that I also use in trail running, and therefore a little more sole height under the forefoot / midfoot.
Nick runs seriously fast even at his slow pace! 😮
How about the hurricane
Why not Ride 18, which is lighter and a bit softer in the review?
A marathon a day keeps old age away
I’m a fan of the beaded tpu foams for me as a bigger runner that puts more force into foams the Adidas boost and this saucony power run plus are good workhorse daily foams . I am curious about the new mizuno neo zen foam I think is tpu and pumas aliphatic tpu might be new advances to a durable material .
Really strongly prefer the videos where you have a conversation. With these, segments are either repetitive because you all agree or else you contradict each other and you don’t talk through why you had different experiences, so I have no idea what to take away.
It is odd that Asics would turn the nova blast five into a soft easy run shoe for the most part. The Nimbus is designed for that. Why would they do that to an 8.9 ounce shoe makes no sense.
Absolutely agree with that. If they would make it less cush then its similar to the cumulus. They should make it less plush and less stack in my opinion to differentiate it.
Ride 17 largely seen as a fail by most reviewers; I’d rather see you compare NB5 vs 4 and maybe DynaBlast 5, which is NivaBlast 3 with improved upper for just $120.
Its totally not seen as a fail by other reviewers. Just less hyped.
@ Most reviews I’ve seen/read say it’s a step backward, just like Triumph 22, and not as good or as light as comps, like Cumulus.
Hi! Would the Clifton 9 be compatible with the new Novablast? I bought mine few days ago and I'm wondering should I wait for the Novablast 5. I tried the 4 and didnt like it. It felt like a squishy unstable shue to me.
Clifton 9 looks great, but the EVA midsole is outdated. Yet Clifton is good as casual shoes.
For me, Novablast 5 is too soft for a daily trainer shoe. That cushion won't last for sure. Novablast 4 is better, durability, stability and balance cushion.
Yeah I have it , but man I do worry it’s too soft … 100k already on it and does have that sink feeling
@@Matthew-px9nu how much your weight? plan to get novablast 5 for marathon training but lil worry the shoes will bottom out over time. im 5'9 and 160lbs
@@abdiwijoyoc 165 … I like them for sure fun shoe , I run a lot in them … just may be a tad soft in midfoot but not deal breaker… I am running 4-5 min per km
why dont you also tell EU number ? watching a lot of your reviews and you never do that,please add
good review. thanks 👏
Uff with poo on the outsole....that`s really disgusting...good review tho