I don’t think in a million years we’d get 50 for Eddie, but if you put it into the perspective that balogun went for 30 million, and considering Eddie has a lot more experience in the premier league I wouldn’t say 50 isn’t far off from a good valuation. English tax too, seeing that he’s been linked with teams as close as palace or west ham. Still don’t think he’d go for more than 35 million. Love the show Charles, COYG
£50m is a price tag that allows negotiations to begin. Start with a high ceiling and negotiate. Start low and have no where to go. It's time we changed our habits on selling players on the cheap and take a leaf out of Chelsea's book on the matter.
@@Mat_D87the problem with that is most clubs would have approached us with an initial loan anyway. He’s crap it really is that simple so getting £20m would be good business.
I watched the first half of the game and came up with a conclusionthat wlker was allergic to passing the ball to saka when opportunity arises..he let go of all the opportunities that arose..if defenders touch more of the ball thand the attackers then of course you are not going to score any goal
Eddie's performances didn't drop last season Charles. He barely got a sniff after scoring that hat trick. I think Arsenal are holding out for between 35 to 40 mill for Eddie so the 50 mill price tag makes sense. We won't entertain the 10s and 20 mill bids for Eddie now makes a lot of sense the price tag
Hey Charles, love the show and have been watching for some years now. I have to say I disagree with your take on Saka and his form. Out of the front four I think he has been clearly the best. He was causing problems before he was pulled. I am stuck on why everyone is ignoring how Bellingham has been playing. 0 shots, 0 chances created, 0successful tackles, 0 completed passes into the final third, 22% duals won and he lost possession 16 times. I don’t think he should be paired with rice because they are both ball carriers. He needs to see the bench. Agree with you that Kane has been pretty bad too
Please remember that when selling anything, you put the price high. The buyer then comes in low and you usually meet in the middle. That's how it's done.
Hi Charles. In ̈ a still quiet market from an Arsenal point of view,. The news that Karl Hein has signed a new contract has been under reported, and under appreciated. He won't play many, if any games, but still great to have such a good third choice goalkeeper. One less headache for Arteta.
Doesnt matter if 50s realistic or not , we see all the top clubs do this with their players we need to wake up and adapt. We're a huge club and these are english players who have played a decent amount of games for us. Seen players with less runs in first teams get sizeable fees. This is a business. Gotta push that transfer fee up regardless and arsenal are well within their rights to do so.
Watching Saka playing for England (as with the latter arsenal games this season) I'm reminded of Theo and how his game was frustrated. He's receiving the ball with his back to goal and struggles to turn with the wingback and left centre back ready for him. Mostly he pushes it back and although it moves the team up the pitch he's wasted there.
Really odd take on Saka, Charles. He was poor on what basis? Kyle Walker’s inability to put passes in the correct position so Saka didn’t have to change his run? Kane, Foden, Gallagher, and Bellingham clogging central channels when he wants to turn inside? Gallagher being completely useless in linking play? Harry Kane running sideways at Saka instead of into space where to create danger? You regularly defend Martinelli’s performance this past season based on a disjointed left side, maybe don’t watch the match through the bottom of the pint glass mate
We paid £65 million for Havertz and he was scoring about 8 goals a season for Chelsea. When Eddie replaced Jesus in season 22/23 he scored around that number of goals in a third of a season. We ask for £50 million for Eddie and be grateful for anything from £40 million upwards.
@@alekseifedorov949 And for much of the period he played for Chelsea they were a successful team, yet he never scored or created much. If Havertz was worth that at the time we bought him then Eddie is worth the £50 million mentioned, though I suspect we'll get less than that as we usually do.
The Havertz-Nketiah comparison doesn't make sense to me. First of all, we signed him as a midfielder, so goals weren't the primary focus/objective for signing us. Secondly, we were signing his potential rather than the way he played at Chelsea. More specifically, how great of a young player he was at Leverkusen.
@@chiefhardy6312 And why wouldn't somebody sign Nketiah for his potential. If he plays regularly in the right set up there's a decent chance he becomes a 20 goal a season striker. I think though he needs the right set up to take advantage of his "fox in the box" abilities.
I mean Havertz was regularly starting for Chelsea, was a former wonderkid (with a big initial transfer to Chelsea) and had tons of champion league experience including the winning goal. Not to mention they play different positions so apple's to oranges. Nkeitah is more comparable to Balgoun last summer who got sold for 25 million after a great season in France. Nkeitah has mainly been a substitute, and is on a decent wage. He's also English, and 25 in his prime and has term on his contract so he does have good value, and yes has shown goal scoring ability somewhat. He's not going to be a 20 goal guy (that's very rare), but yeah he's more than capable of being a starter for one of those clubs mentioned. I think he'll probably get around 25 million - 30 million max.
I don’t see why you think 50 million is too much….he’s an ARSENAL player premier league ready,champions league experience , what are you thinking we are the Arsenal our players aren’t Rubbish…!…
Hi Charles, what is your thoughts on Dani Olmo? with a €60m release clause surely he must be a realistic option for further strenthening our attacking and midfield options. Would love to hear your thoughts on this as he has been exceptional and one of Spains standout players so far in the Euros.
Charles, Romano reported that Arsenal are watching Calafiori of Bologna, who is currently the break out star of the Euro. Personally i don't think he will come to Arsenal though. Bit similar feeling to Locatelli transfer saga. Italy players rarely makes the move to PL(Tonaly and Jorginho are rare exceptions)
Hi Charles, love the content. Long time listener here. Question for you or for you and James Benge. If you could choose one Arsenal player to score the winning goal in the last minute of the champions league final who would it be?
Charles, on Martinellís return from his last injury he doesn’t look like the player from 2022/23 season. Assessing his end of season performances for the club and his recent run with Brazil he seems really tentative and his burst is not as effective. On current form I think Arteta will park him on the bench, should we consider selling while he still has value or wait and see if he recaptures his old form?
Charles, thinking about Nketiah's potential sale in the context of Balogun's sale is helpful. Surely Nketiah could be sold to a Premier Lesgue club for AT LEAST what we were able to sell Balogun for to a non-PSG French club (34m pounds). Yes Balogun was younger and scored a lot of goals in Ligue One (in 1 fluke season). But he only had 1 year left on his contract, never scored a Prem goal, and two seasons before was only able to score 3 goals in the Championship. Nketiah has a long term contract, has scored 4-5 Prem goals in 3 straight seasons with incredibly limited minutes. Balogun wasn't Prem ready and Nketiah is. I agree 50m pounds is probably too much, but we did the same strategy leaking a similar number with Balogun. It's just our opening negotiation number. I think 40m is realistic, and I would be disappointed if we got less than Balogun's 34m.
Good morning Charles & all, With the liklihood of Ramsdale, Nelson, Nketiah & Smith-Rowe exiting, leaving White, Rice & Saka as the only English players left in the senior squad. Do you reckon we'll sign any English players ?? Wouldn't mind one or two of either Eze, Gallagher, Wharton, Bowen, Curtis Jones (underrated) or even Marcus Rashford if we do & possibly get Nwaneri into the squad.
Also, there is a load of that cup throwing going on. One of the first few games, there was a player who went, I think near the Romanian fans, and he was pelted with cups. From a podcast yesterday, they said there's a 3 euro deposit on the cup and the beer costs 10 euros. Expensive throw that.
Charles, seems like every day there's a new rumour about players linked with Arsenal. How do you assess them as a whole ... which are realistic, likely, unlikely in your opinion?
Hi Charles any news if Ethan nwaneri will join up with arsenals training camp? Surely this could really boost his chances of getting minutes and prove he’s ready for the first team.
Sir, we can't be complaining over this valuation when other teams do worse .. why is it big news when Arsenal does the same .. this is bugging me and maybe I should expect it because it's Arsenal but still c'mon
Its mind blowing how so many fans not understand how negotiations work. Start high and negotiate lower, obviously we won't get 50m but that price leaves a lot a space to work out a more reasonable number. We moan for years that Arsenal sell players too cheap and when we finally put a hefty price tag on a player fans are still moaning.
RE Southgate and England - everyone clamoring for player changes has the wrong end of the stick. All that has to change is Southgates instructions. Foden needs to be told to stick to the left touchline. He does this for Pep and then has triggers to come inside based on opposition positioning. With England he just comes inside constantly and we then have a defensive block against us that just drifts right and is impossible to move through because its so cramped. All of our players in our starting 11 and our bench are good enough to play and succeed it is the system/lack of structure that is ruining us.
Guiressy is too old. If we had a young prospect waiting to get into the team, then fair enough. But we don’t. We don’t have ANY youth talent on the edge of our squad (except MAYBE Nwaneri). Which is very poor. That said, if we fail to sign anyone else then, for 17m and if he’s prepared to not start every game, he’s a decent option. We just HAVE to sign top talents that instantly elevate the squad - and who have resale value and aren’t soon to decline.
I do sometimes wonder how good Eddie could be if we persisted with him like we have Havertz and others. I think he will shine leading the live for another premier league club and hope he can damage some of our rivals next season if he stays in the prem
100million euros buy out clause for João Neves?! Benfica can keep hold of him! He’s had a stinker of a performance tonight against Georgia. On the other hand great performance by the Napoli boy Kvaratskhelia… he’s an attacking player we should be looking at he has it all!
Didn’t Chelsea want £40million for Broja? Eddie is a better player so I get the price being set. You can ask for that but if you are offered near that, then take it
Moving Saka to Left back is disrespectful and stupid. Would you put Harry Kane as a CB, no so why even think about moving Saka. Ridiculous and stupid. :(
Hi Charles I disagree I think 30/35 million is way to cheap I think anything from 40/50 million is the right price. Flo balagon went for more than 35 and Eddie in my opinion is a better striker than flo and can clearly is capable of 15+ goals in a season we shouldn’t budge on anything less than 40 million
£50m is a bit ambitious but if Chelsea can sell a kid for £19m then I don't see why Arsenal can't set that asking price. Connor Gallagher is being quoted around £60m. A bang average midfielder.
£50M….if they can get it, cash that check fast! With Kai at striker, why do we need more than Jesus? MA has shown he rarely rotates and Jesus could compete (when healthy). Why not get a more expensive proven player to slot next to Rice?
If unproven young English players with no 1st team apps international caps europa/champs lge experience are going for £40-50 m…….how much for a proven young English striker???……we have to stop being low balled and get serious with our demands even if not 50m that’s what we need to put into the atmosphere so clubs know to come seriously. COYGS🎉
If Florin Bologun sold for more than 35m, then Eddie worths 40 -50 mill because he is home grown, premier league proven with 2 years contract at 24 yrs.
Could Kane's lack of energy up top be the problem for England? Think back to Arsenal's run in, the only loss was when Jesus came back in with a lack of fitness and couldn't press Villa like Kai could.
Arsenal sells cheap = "WE CANT DO BUSINESS !" , Arsenal demands high fees for our players = "HE ISNT WORTH THAT HE SHOULD GO FOR LESS !". We should demand high fees for our players. SIMPLE.
@@leonbell5141 fans are so obtuse. I said DEMAND not SELL FOR. If you demand high you will likely get a higher fee in the end. This isnt a fire sale they are good players that can play well for decent sides and are under contract so why not get good money for them ???
Same guys when we sell them for cheap will be ready to criticise the club and call them pushovers. Make up your minds. Didnt eddie fill in for near enough a half season for us and did pretty well. We should be capitalising off that this isnt a playground this is business which will help us get better more reliable players.
@@un_ubcribedthanks nerd ass its called an opinion either agree , disagree or crawl back under your rock. If it was so obvious whys are fans so split on it ?
@GavLever in his early teens. Definitely wasn't his best position, or else he would have been playing there today. All I know is LW or RW he can produce better than Foden and Palmer. The problem is that England suck. Ball movement too slow etc
@@ibinho10 I'd drop saka for his sake next game and bring him off the bench, saka needs a break and to be fit for arsenal when returning so I'd drop him and foden and give palmer and the Newcastle winger a start. Looked better once the changes were made but overall poor. Didn't expect any better though
It's a stupid thing to say about that price tag. This guy score goals. 50 mil. Pounds is even too cheap. You should stop pricing our players. Let Edu do the sales. Thanks.
Arsenal are getting on my tits, when it comes to transfers... Arteta wanted to get it wrapped up early.... I believe Viktor Gyokeres is a no brainer, he's been banging in goals at Coventry and Sporting and he will score at Arsenal..... He's not at the Euro's, so why delay... BUY HIM FFS
We need to start making other clubs pay top dollar we seem to sell cheap and buy big IE PEPE £72m not worth £7.2m Charles just let them put that price tag on him so if they come in with £40m job done.but please Arsenal let’s keep our traps shut,Charles I wouldn’t want you doing our deals someone comes in with £50m sounds to me you say them oh no that’s too much give us £30m 🙈🙈🙈
he didn't see the pitch for the last 60 percent of the season, what 50 mil u talking about ? he is also already 25 years old. just beg for 20 and say thank you. played like 7 games, scored 4 goals ? what 50 mil u talking bout
The problem with the English team is simply politics on all fronts. Instead of wanting a team that shines, the English fanbase want individual players representing their clubs to shine. Chelsea fanbase want palmer to start so they can brag he is the best English player, same as the other top club fanbase. They are not playing as a team, the coach is out of his depth. The English pundits are just clueless. The reason players are not winning anything with England is same reason Beckham of real Madrid was different to Beckham of England. The English managers have no clue how to use their players.
Charles, did you ever think that maybe the club knows he's not worth £50M but they have to place this high price tag on him to get what he's actually worth (£30-35M). More often than not clubs have to make concessions on the asking price, or overvalue the player in the first place just to end up getting the fair value. It makes sense that we have to use this strategy given our history of not getting value for our players
We are 4 days from the PSR deadline. There are sellers, few buyers. I too want to us to negotiate for the best fee for Eddie, but 50MM? Don't think so. Today's price is not yesterday's price and the market has changed. Look at the movement in January. Look at the point deductions. I believe the transfer market is going into recession.
Love you channel but for the first time I will agree with what people say that you under value Arsenal players. I think putting a price tag of 50M on Eddie if fair enough. That way even if there is a counter offer, it doesn’t drop significantly. If we price him at 30M, we could end up selling at 20-25 instead of 30-35 if we price him at 50M.
Not an England fan but this Saka pile on is embarrassing. The Palmer love in is ludicrous . True he’s had his first breakout season but people have to their jets. Wait til Palmer is double and triple upped on next season and how great he is. Get that donkey Kane off too and Foden.
Don't see anything wrong with that price. He is young, didn't know he was 25, he is a proven goal scorer in the prem, a couple clubs are interested which suggests competition. This is a solid price. We may not get 50 in the end for him but it's a good price to stimulate some bargaining and haggling especially among competing clubs. We always complain that we are not good sellers. This surely will be a good test
Nobody is talking about how bad Bellingham has been. Everyone can see the team has no creativity and he's the number 10. Everyone calling for him to play alongside Rice, go watch the world cup and tell me that it worked...
That's exactly how much Eddie is worth. 17 goals in his last 22 starts at home, his away form is poor and he does not impact the game off the bench, but you cannot argue the fact when he starts at home Eddie is quality, the numbers don't lie. 40-45m would be fair for me to ask any suitors.
@Unodostres00 No. He is correct. Only have to look at Eddie's numbers and compare them to other players and what they were bought for. Eddie is a good player, just not quite good enough for us now. That does not make him sh*t.
As always fun to listen to you Charles. The England Team - It’s like they’re all auditioning for solo acts instead of playing in a band. Too much thinking, not enough passing - they’re holding up the ball as if they’re waiting for divine inspiration! And don’t get me started on the manager’s tactics - it’s like he’s got them playing chess when they should be playing football! A bit more positivity and quicker ball movement would definitely go a long way. Cheers to hoping they find their rhythm very soon!
One of Englands problem is trying to find a spot in the team to accommodate Foden. He has only scored 4 times in 36 games. Dont anyone keep telling me he is stuck out on the left (winger) he spent most of last night in central positions. He had more than enough chances to replicate he's club form. But he is not showing it for England. Yes he is very good for MC. but they are usually camp on the edge of opposite teams penalty box, so obvious Foden usually gets to fire in plenty shots. At the moment England are playing the so called lesser teams who play with a low block !! Even the "Mighty Arsenal" struggle to break them sort of teams down. So dont be to hard on them, but sometimes Southgate's decisions are a little baffling, ie. sending on Gordon for a couple on minutes. Lets see what happens when we play a so called stronger team. We will know very shortly. Don't forget, every other so called top manager, cant seem to get an England team over the line. Not forgetting the great Sir Alf. Then they sacked him.🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
Hey Charles I know 50m sounds high,but when you selling a player don't you have to price them high so you can leave room for negotiations, I think that what arsenal trying to do, if they asking for what he actually worth,I don't think that leave room for negotiations and they mite end up getting less than he actually worth
Foden is insanely overrated, he's an ego player that makes bad decisions all the time, It's been a long time since I've seen a player piss off his team mates as much as Foden over the last 3 games. It's a disgrace that he won player of the season, it's like you only gave it to him because he's English...
IF (and at this time of the summer I'm always sceptical around reporting) the reports are true about Eddie's valuation then I think that it's more reflective of Arsenal's negotiation strategy rather than a realistic expectation on their part. I.E. they know they'll be negotiated down so they'd rather start high so they get their actual valuation. And given the at times fair criticism of Edu not getting good value for sales (though some improvement last summer) I can't fault him for trying to maximise sale value even if I don't think he'll get that amount on this occasion.
I have always rated Eddie, he is best suited to 442. If I played that system with a close 10 I would see 50Mill as a highish price, but not far off fair. I feel that he needs to find a team that sees that he is definitely worthy.
We sold Alex Iwobi to Everton for 40M!! You really think we can’t get 50M for Eddie Nketiah?? English International, record goals scorer for English U21’s, Prem proven, FA Cup Community Shield Winner, Europa and Champions League experience
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I don’t think in a million years we’d get 50 for Eddie, but if you put it into the perspective that balogun went for 30 million, and considering Eddie has a lot more experience in the premier league I wouldn’t say 50 isn’t far off from a good valuation. English tax too, seeing that he’s been linked with teams as close as palace or west ham. Still don’t think he’d go for more than 35 million. Love the show Charles, COYG
15/20 mill max
We wont get 50 for him, but we should definitely start high. He is on the same level as players like Conor Gallagher imo
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Or Cole Palmer last season.
gallagher is valued at 50 mil haha
No chance. I’d trade him for Gallagher any day of the week 😂
@@BeforeThisNovemberboth are built for mid table teams
£50m is a price tag that allows negotiations to begin. Start with a high ceiling and negotiate. Start low and have no where to go. It's time we changed our habits on selling players on the cheap and take a leaf out of Chelsea's book on the matter.
Eddie is staying forever then 😂 50 million ain’t gonna happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@leonbell5141 did you even read my comment?
finally someone who understands lol , guys are acting like we should be telling the world we want 15 mil for him
@@leonbell5141 clown this isnt fifa career mode , thats how negotiating works
@@Mat_D87the problem with that is most clubs would have approached us with an initial loan anyway. He’s crap it really is that simple so getting £20m would be good business.
I watched the first half of the game and came up with a conclusionthat wlker was allergic to passing the ball to saka when opportunity arises..he let go of all the opportunities that arose..if defenders touch more of the ball thand the attackers then of course you are not going to score any goal
Eddie's performances didn't drop last season Charles. He barely got a sniff after scoring that hat trick. I think Arsenal are holding out for between 35 to 40 mill for Eddie so the 50 mill price tag makes sense.
We won't entertain the 10s and 20 mill bids for Eddie now makes a lot of sense the price tag
Hey Charles, love the show and have been watching for some years now. I have to say I disagree with your take on Saka and his form. Out of the front four I think he has been clearly the best. He was causing problems before he was pulled. I am stuck on why everyone is ignoring how Bellingham has been playing. 0 shots, 0 chances created, 0successful tackles, 0 completed passes into the final third, 22% duals won and he lost possession 16 times. I don’t think he should be paired with rice because they are both ball carriers. He needs to see the bench. Agree with you that Kane has been pretty bad too
1:43 it's a price tag that has created a lot of conversation. How you get to the 50m is the convo the club wants to have.
Please remember that when selling anything, you put the price high. The buyer then comes in low and you usually meet in the middle. That's how it's done.
Hi Charles. In ̈ a still quiet market from an Arsenal point of view,. The news that Karl Hein has signed a new contract has been under reported, and under appreciated. He won't play many, if any games, but still great to have such a good third choice goalkeeper. One less headache for Arteta.
Doesnt matter if 50s realistic or not , we see all the top clubs do this with their players we need to wake up and adapt. We're a huge club and these are english players who have played a decent amount of games for us. Seen players with less runs in first teams get sizeable fees. This is a business. Gotta push that transfer fee up regardless and arsenal are well within their rights to do so.
Watching Saka playing for England (as with the latter arsenal games this season) I'm reminded of Theo and how his game was frustrated. He's receiving the ball with his back to goal and struggles to turn with the wingback and left centre back ready for him. Mostly he pushes it back and although it moves the team up the pitch he's wasted there.
Really odd take on Saka, Charles. He was poor on what basis? Kyle Walker’s inability to put passes in the correct position so Saka didn’t have to change his run? Kane, Foden, Gallagher, and Bellingham clogging central channels when he wants to turn inside? Gallagher being completely useless in linking play? Harry Kane running sideways at Saka instead of into space where to create danger? You regularly defend Martinelli’s performance this past season based on a disjointed left side, maybe don’t watch the match through the bottom of the pint glass mate
We paid £65 million for Havertz and he was scoring about 8 goals a season for Chelsea.
When Eddie replaced Jesus in season 22/23 he scored around that number of goals in a third of a season.
We ask for £50 million for Eddie and be grateful for anything from £40 million upwards.
Scoring is on a team, not on individuals.
@@alekseifedorov949 And for much of the period he played for Chelsea they were a successful team, yet he never scored or created much. If Havertz was worth that at the time we bought him then Eddie is worth the £50 million mentioned, though I suspect we'll get less than that as we usually do.
The Havertz-Nketiah comparison doesn't make sense to me. First of all, we signed him as a midfielder, so goals weren't the primary focus/objective for signing us. Secondly, we were signing his potential rather than the way he played at Chelsea. More specifically, how great of a young player he was at Leverkusen.
@@chiefhardy6312 And why wouldn't somebody sign Nketiah for his potential. If he plays regularly in the right set up there's a decent chance he becomes a 20 goal a season striker. I think though he needs the right set up to take advantage of his "fox in the box" abilities.
I mean Havertz was regularly starting for Chelsea, was a former wonderkid (with a big initial transfer to Chelsea) and had tons of champion league experience including the winning goal. Not to mention they play different positions so apple's to oranges.
Nkeitah is more comparable to Balgoun last summer who got sold for 25 million after a great season in France. Nkeitah has mainly been a substitute, and is on a decent wage. He's also English, and 25 in his prime and has term on his contract so he does have good value, and yes has shown goal scoring ability somewhat. He's not going to be a 20 goal guy (that's very rare), but yeah he's more than capable of being a starter for one of those clubs mentioned. I think he'll probably get around 25 million - 30 million max.
I don’t see why you think 50 million is too much….he’s an ARSENAL player premier league ready,champions league experience , what are you thinking we are the Arsenal our players aren’t Rubbish…!…
Hi Charles, what is your thoughts on Dani Olmo? with a €60m release clause surely he must be a realistic option for further strenthening our attacking and midfield options. Would love to hear your thoughts on this as he has been exceptional and one of Spains standout players so far in the Euros.
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Charles, Romano reported that Arsenal are watching Calafiori of Bologna, who is currently the break out star of the Euro. Personally i don't think he will come to Arsenal though. Bit similar feeling to Locatelli transfer saga. Italy players rarely makes the move to PL(Tonaly and Jorginho are rare exceptions)
Hi Charles, love the content. Long time listener here. Question for you or for you and James Benge. If you could choose one Arsenal
player to score the winning goal in the last minute of the champions league final who would it be?
Charles, on Martinellís return from his last injury he doesn’t look like the player from 2022/23 season. Assessing his end of season performances for the club and his recent run with Brazil he seems really tentative and his burst is not as effective. On current form I think Arteta will park him on the bench, should we consider selling while he still has value or wait and see if he recaptures his old form?
Charles, thinking about Nketiah's potential sale in the context of Balogun's sale is helpful.
Surely Nketiah could be sold to a Premier Lesgue club for AT LEAST what we were able to sell Balogun for to a non-PSG French club (34m pounds). Yes Balogun was younger and scored a lot of goals in Ligue One (in 1 fluke season). But he only had 1 year left on his contract, never scored a Prem goal, and two seasons before was only able to score 3 goals in the Championship. Nketiah has a long term contract, has scored 4-5 Prem goals in 3 straight seasons with incredibly limited minutes. Balogun wasn't Prem ready and Nketiah is.
I agree 50m pounds is probably too much, but we did the same strategy leaking a similar number with Balogun. It's just our opening negotiation number.
I think 40m is realistic, and I would be disappointed if we got less than Balogun's 34m.
Well he still scored 7 goals & set up 6 last season compared to Nketiahs 5 & 2.... also Balo is 2 years younger.
Good morning Charles & all, With the liklihood of Ramsdale, Nelson, Nketiah & Smith-Rowe exiting, leaving White, Rice & Saka as the only English players left in the senior squad.
Do you reckon we'll sign any English players ?? Wouldn't mind one or two of either Eze, Gallagher, Wharton, Bowen, Curtis Jones (underrated) or even Marcus Rashford if we do & possibly get Nwaneri into the squad.
Why the hell is Gordon not playing for England? Hes our only actually fast player! And he causes trouble - similar style to Martinelli
Also, there is a load of that cup throwing going on. One of the first few games, there was a player who went, I think near the Romanian fans, and he was pelted with cups. From a podcast yesterday, they said there's a 3 euro deposit on the cup and the beer costs 10 euros. Expensive throw that.
Charles, seems like every day there's a new rumour about players linked with Arsenal. How do you assess them as a whole ... which are realistic, likely, unlikely in your opinion?
Hi Charles any news if Ethan nwaneri will join up with arsenals training camp? Surely this could really boost his chances of getting minutes and prove he’s ready for the first team.
Sir, we can't be complaining over this valuation when other teams do worse .. why is it big news when Arsenal does the same .. this is bugging me and maybe I should expect it because it's Arsenal but still c'mon
How much was Hojlund and how many goals did he score for Atalanta - don’t complain about Eddies price!
Its mind blowing how so many fans not understand how negotiations work. Start high and negotiate lower, obviously we won't get 50m but that price leaves a lot a space to work out a more reasonable number.
We moan for years that Arsenal sell players too cheap and when we finally put a hefty price tag on a player fans are still moaning.
Why shouldn’t the Club not play the market and sell Eddie for £50M?
£50m quoted for Nketiah will frighten off any possible suitors and he will still be at Arsenal next season with a ridiculous valuation like that.
RE Southgate and England - everyone clamoring for player changes has the wrong end of the stick. All that has to change is Southgates instructions. Foden needs to be told to stick to the left touchline. He does this for Pep and then has triggers to come inside based on opposition positioning. With England he just comes inside constantly and we then have a defensive block against us that just drifts right and is impossible to move through because its so cramped.
All of our players in our starting 11 and our bench are good enough to play and succeed it is the system/lack of structure that is ruining us.
Guiressy is too old. If we had a young prospect waiting to get into the team, then fair enough. But we don’t. We don’t have ANY youth talent on the edge of our squad (except MAYBE Nwaneri). Which is very poor.
That said, if we fail to sign anyone else then, for 17m and if he’s prepared to not start every game, he’s a decent option.
We just HAVE to sign top talents that instantly elevate the squad - and who have resale value and aren’t soon to decline.
If Arsenal are a big club,then get Eze,if Ødegaard gets injured or subbed,then we would have another creative midfielder.
I do sometimes wonder how good Eddie could be if we persisted with him like we have Havertz and others. I think he will shine leading the live for another premier league club and hope he can damage some of our rivals next season if he stays in the prem
100million euros buy out clause for João Neves?! Benfica can keep hold of him!
He’s had a stinker of a performance tonight against Georgia.
On the other hand great performance by the Napoli boy Kvaratskhelia… he’s an attacking player we should be looking at he has it all!
You’re part of the problem, Charles. If Chelsea slaps 50 million on Nketia’s head, nobody would bat an eyelid
Didn’t Chelsea want £40million for Broja? Eddie is a better player so I get the price being set. You can ask for that but if you are offered near that, then take it
Yeah but he wouldn’t be sold 😂
Gordon - Watkins - Palmer
Foden
Rice - Bellingham
Walker - Guehi - Stones - TAA
Next game, start this or we riot.
The riot would be playing with 10 men
@@mikewood6528 you can’t workout who our keeper is, or?
Moving Saka to Left back is disrespectful and stupid. Would you put Harry Kane as a CB, no so why even think about moving Saka. Ridiculous and stupid. :(
Arteta used Saka in the same position 😂
50 million is on the high side 30 35 yes Churtney in Zimbabwe.
Hi Charles I disagree I think 30/35 million is way to cheap I think anything from 40/50 million is the right price. Flo balagon went for more than 35 and Eddie in my opinion is a better striker than flo and can clearly is capable of 15+ goals in a season we shouldn’t budge on anything less than 40 million
£50m is a bit ambitious but if Chelsea can sell a kid for £19m then I don't see why Arsenal can't set that asking price. Connor Gallagher is being quoted around £60m. A bang average midfielder.
£50M….if they can get it, cash that check fast! With Kai at striker, why do we need more than Jesus? MA has shown he rarely rotates and Jesus could compete (when healthy). Why not get a more expensive proven player to slot next to Rice?
If unproven young English players with no 1st team apps international caps europa/champs lge experience are going for £40-50 m…….how much for a proven young English striker???……we have to stop being low balled and get serious with our demands even if not 50m that’s what we need to put into the atmosphere so clubs know to come seriously. COYGS🎉
I'd be happy with 30m up front with 5m in potential add ons
Good morning Charles
IL WILL FIT IN WEST HAM UNITED AND HAS A BRILLIANT FUTUR.
20 mil maximum.. that too including addons.. he is a very bang average or below average player.
Why not ?
If Florin Bologun sold for more than 35m, then Eddie worths 40 -50 mill because he is home grown, premier league proven with 2 years contract at 24 yrs.
Could Kane's lack of energy up top be the problem for England? Think back to Arsenal's run in, the only loss was when Jesus came back in with a lack of fitness and couldn't press Villa like Kai could.
Arsenal sells cheap = "WE CANT DO BUSINESS !" , Arsenal demands high fees for our players = "HE ISNT WORTH THAT HE SHOULD GO FOR LESS !". We should demand high fees for our players. SIMPLE.
You won’t sell Eddie than he’ll be here next season offer a loan with option to buy at best he’s still unproven
@@leonbell5141 fans are so obtuse. I said DEMAND not SELL FOR. If you demand high you will likely get a higher fee in the end. This isnt a fire sale they are good players that can play well for decent sides and are under contract so why not get good money for them ???
Same guys when we sell them for cheap will be ready to criticise the club and call them pushovers. Make up your minds. Didnt eddie fill in for near enough a half season for us and did pretty well. We should be capitalising off that this isnt a playground this is business which will help us get better more reliable players.
Arsenal should hire you as chief negotiator, being the first person to discover the High Ball negotiation technique. You are so clever. Well done 🏏
@@un_ubcribedthanks nerd ass its called an opinion either agree , disagree or crawl back under your rock. If it was so obvious whys are fans so split on it ?
I doubt they actually want 50m for Nketiah, but it's better to start at 50m and go down to 30m than start at 30m and go down to 20m!
6 players and Arteta on holiday? Sounds like an awkward team building exercise at work.
So why don't they request Palmer or Foden to play LB. Nonsense
Cause they both haven't played there. Saka is a decent lb
@@GavLever I thought Palmer could play anywhere according to Michael Owen
@GavLever in his early teens. Definitely wasn't his best position, or else he would have been playing there today. All I know is LW or RW he can produce better than Foden and Palmer. The problem is that England suck. Ball movement too slow etc
@@ibinho10 he was class there, just suits the winger role better like alot of full backs do
@@ibinho10 I'd drop saka for his sake next game and bring him off the bench, saka needs a break and to be fit for arsenal when returning so I'd drop him and foden and give palmer and the Newcastle winger a start. Looked better once the changes were made but overall poor. Didn't expect any better though
It's a stupid thing to say about that price tag. This guy score goals. 50 mil. Pounds is even too cheap. You should stop pricing our players. Let Edu do the sales. Thanks.
‘Pre-Graham Potter’s Brighton’ Trossard wasn’t a star either, so Guirassy could prove decent
Southgate hasn't got a clue or the Balls to change it around and it's not as though he hasn't got the tools to do it
no fucking way saka plays left back
If anyone in arsenal can broker a deal for 50mil for Eddie build that man a statue. 25/30 easy 50…. Put the blunt down
Guirassy having the kind of season the Balogun had prior to his move. Not worth the contract to Arsenal
Look at the draw ffs. Southgate is blessed or done a deal with devil. He can get to semi most times without meeting a big team in any form.
I'd take 20
Arsenal are getting on my tits, when it comes to transfers... Arteta wanted to get it wrapped up early.... I believe Viktor Gyokeres is a no brainer, he's been banging in goals at Coventry and Sporting and he will score at Arsenal..... He's not at the Euro's, so why delay...
BUY HIM FFS
We need to start making other clubs pay top dollar we seem to sell cheap and buy big IE PEPE £72m not worth £7.2m
Charles just let them put that price tag on him so if they come in with £40m job done.but please Arsenal let’s keep our traps shut,Charles I wouldn’t want you doing our deals someone comes in with £50m sounds to me you say them oh no that’s too much give us £30m 🙈🙈🙈
I’m so much concerned on our wing options than central options so whether Eddie leaves or stay, I meant us to try and get a very good wide forward.
he didn't see the pitch for the last 60 percent of the season, what 50 mil u talking about ?
he is also already 25 years old. just beg for 20 and say thank you.
played like 7 games, scored 4 goals ? what 50 mil u talking bout
R.nelson - £25m - £27m (plus + on)
E.nketiah - £33m - £37m (plus + on)
ESR - £35m - £40m (plus + on)
A.Ramdales - £37m - £43m (plus + on)
T.Partey - €50m
Delusional if you really believe that figures.
If Füllkrug is so great which Kai’s haters cry, why BVB demands Guirassy 😂
The problem with the English team is simply politics on all fronts. Instead of wanting a team that shines, the English fanbase want individual players representing their clubs to shine. Chelsea fanbase want palmer to start so they can brag he is the best English player, same as the other top club fanbase. They are not playing as a team, the coach is out of his depth. The English pundits are just clueless. The reason players are not winning anything with England is same reason Beckham of real Madrid was different to Beckham of England. The English managers have no clue how to use their players.
Feels like we are taking a step back this summer with our targets etc
Playing four players that want to be number 10’s doesn’t work
Charles, did you ever think that maybe the club knows he's not worth £50M but they have to place this high price tag on him to get what he's actually worth (£30-35M). More often than not clubs have to make concessions on the asking price, or overvalue the player in the first place just to end up getting the fair value. It makes sense that we have to use this strategy given our history of not getting value for our players
25 max for Eddie
£30mil max.
50 mill not a chance 😂
£30 million
If you dont ask for it, you wont get it
Attacker are more expensive and worthless
We are 4 days from the PSR deadline. There are sellers, few buyers. I too want to us to negotiate for the best fee for Eddie, but 50MM? Don't think so. Today's price is not yesterday's price and the market has changed. Look at the movement in January. Look at the point deductions. I believe the transfer market is going into recession.
Eddie price tag, less a step too high more a staircase too high
Saka at left back allows England 🇬🇧 the balance
Nketiah is worth 50m, after Jesus injury. Eddie is one of the reasons Arsenal qualified Champion League. Finally, Arsenal is valued there players.
If iwobi left for 35m Eddie is definitely better and the market has inflated more since then, 50 isn’t a crazy number anymore 🤷♂️
Love you channel but for the first time I will agree with what people say that you under value Arsenal players. I think putting a price tag of 50M on Eddie if fair enough. That way even if there is a counter offer, it doesn’t drop significantly. If we price him at 30M, we could end up selling at 20-25 instead of 30-35 if we price him at 50M.
Not an England fan but this Saka pile on is embarrassing. The Palmer love in is ludicrous . True he’s had his first breakout season but people have to their jets. Wait til Palmer is double and triple upped on next season and how great he is. Get that donkey Kane off too and Foden.
Eddie is never gonna be the striker Arteta wants but he could thrive in the right environment.
I just can’t see it he’s a mid table striker at best 😂
Don't see anything wrong with that price. He is young, didn't know he was 25, he is a proven goal scorer in the prem, a couple clubs are interested which suggests competition. This is a solid price. We may not get 50 in the end for him but it's a good price to stimulate some bargaining and haggling especially among competing clubs. We always complain that we are not good sellers. This surely will be a good test
Nobody is talking about how bad Bellingham has been. Everyone can see the team has no creativity and he's the number 10. Everyone calling for him to play alongside Rice, go watch the world cup and tell me that it worked...
If we want to get 30 for Eddie having 50 as a starting point makes a lot of sense.
That's exactly how much Eddie is worth. 17 goals in his last 22 starts at home, his away form is poor and he does not impact the game off the bench, but you cannot argue the fact when he starts at home Eddie is quality, the numbers don't lie. 40-45m would be fair for me to ask any suitors.
😂 You should write jokes professionally
@Unodostres00 No. He is correct. Only have to look at Eddie's numbers and compare them to other players and what they were bought for. Eddie is a good player, just not quite good enough for us now. That does not make him sh*t.
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We’d be the only team stupid enough to pay 50 mill for Eddie reached his ceiling 🤣 15/20 mill max and take the money and run for the hills 🤣
@@Unodostres00same guy laughing will be critising edu when we get a pack of haribos for him.
Hi Charlie boy, regarding Nketiah for £50m I would rather have Eddie than Mudryk and he cost Chelski £90. Andy from West Sussex
I would swap them and give 29 million in a heart beat
As always fun to listen to you Charles. The England Team - It’s like they’re all auditioning for solo acts instead of playing in a band. Too much thinking, not enough passing - they’re holding up the ball as if they’re waiting for divine inspiration! And don’t get me started on the manager’s tactics - it’s like he’s got them playing chess when they should be playing football! A bit more positivity and quicker ball movement would definitely go a long way. Cheers to hoping they find their rhythm very soon!
One of Englands problem is trying to find a spot in the team to accommodate Foden. He has only scored 4 times in 36 games. Dont anyone keep telling me he is stuck out on the left (winger) he spent most of last night in central positions. He had more than enough chances to replicate he's club form. But he is not showing it for England. Yes he is very good for MC. but they are usually camp on the edge of opposite teams penalty box, so obvious Foden usually gets to fire in plenty shots.
At the moment England are playing the so called lesser teams who play with a low block !! Even the "Mighty Arsenal" struggle to break them sort of teams down. So dont be to hard on them, but sometimes Southgate's decisions are a little baffling, ie. sending on Gordon for a couple on minutes. Lets see what happens when we play a so called stronger team. We will know very shortly.
Don't forget, every other so called top manager, cant seem to get an England team over the line. Not forgetting the great Sir Alf. Then they sacked him.🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
In the current market, the player is worth what the club wants if there is a willing buyer. I think we can get 50
25m with 10m in add ons...
Hey Charles I know 50m sounds high,but when you selling a player don't you have to price them high so you can leave room for negotiations,
I think that what arsenal trying to do, if they asking for what he actually worth,I don't think that leave room for negotiations and they mite end up getting less than he actually worth
Foden is insanely overrated, he's an ego player that makes bad decisions all the time, It's been a long time since I've seen a player piss off his team mates as much as Foden over the last 3 games.
It's a disgrace that he won player of the season, it's like you only gave it to him because he's English...
HIGH WATTAGE ⚡⚡⚡
Cringe.
@@kunimitsune177
You named yourself after a female ninja from Tekken.
I’m “twisted soul” oOoOoHh! 👻
We’re all cringe. It’s all good.
@@kunimitsune177it's the only thing he comments 😂😂
IF (and at this time of the summer I'm always sceptical around reporting) the reports are true about Eddie's valuation then I think that it's more reflective of Arsenal's negotiation strategy rather than a realistic expectation on their part. I.E. they know they'll be negotiated down so they'd rather start high so they get their actual valuation. And given the at times fair criticism of Edu not getting good value for sales (though some improvement last summer) I can't fault him for trying to maximise sale value even if I don't think he'll get that amount on this occasion.
I have always rated Eddie, he is best suited to 442. If I played that system with a close 10 I would see 50Mill as a highish price, but not far off fair.
I feel that he needs to find a team that sees that he is definitely worthy.
100% apart of striking duo rather than solo.
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We sold Alex Iwobi to Everton for 40M!! You really think we can’t get 50M for Eddie Nketiah?? English International, record goals scorer for English U21’s, Prem proven, FA Cup Community Shield Winner, Europa and Champions League experience