People that buy shoes at Walmart aren’t buying Nikes - there for who cares / on the other hand Bapes cost as much if not more than Nikes. & people wear both Nike & Bape - then Bape is taking market away from Nike off a shoe Nike basically developed.. big difference
@@brianalonso9188 because it's nothing but greed and trying to kill off competitors restricting us costumers to only Nike products that bare the resemblance
correct. regardless, nike was complicit, if not a participant for so long. I work on IP cases. The IP infringement, at its core, is debatable to. nike is trying to scare BAPE. damages will be limited, if any.
@JDMBOI7 He started BBC and Ice Cream with pharrell, then human made with pharrell. Indigo studios is literally a bootleg brand that isn't sanctioned or cosigned by any of the brands that it purports to make. Some cool ideas though.
@@k3wlkid66 , the Adidas Forum actually debuted in 1984, the Nike Dunk in 1985 but I agree that the low top versions look kinda similar... Same for the Reebok Club C, Autry Medalist, Off White out of Office, Represent Reptor low, Axel Arigato Ace A, Axel Arigato Orbit, Champion z80 and Karl Kani 89 low...
@@-Ehrenbruder-Sam- oh yea I wasn't saying they were a copy, just that they're pretty close in design. Tbh I love forums cuz of the similar silhouette and non overhyping of the cooler designs
They went after yums awhile back too lol. Yums made a comeback after the storm cleared & they been back in business since like 2021. I like both brands
also, bape has done collabs with almost every sneaker brand that is competing with nike. New balance, adidas, asics, converse (which I know is still owned by nike but still, its a separate entity). I dont think its just a coincidence. Nike has an oligopoly on the sneaker market, though there are competitors, nike is at the top.
I think the best way to defend this would be to take the logos to the street and asked if anyone could confuse the two. The real problem is they are releasing higher-quality shoes that look virtually identical.
@@asseatermcboi2684 most definitely understand! They made a big influence on sneakers with the paton leather. I do have some history with the brand. Juss feel like they weren't genuine with creativity!
@@asseatermcboi2684 then you would be smart and buy the cheaper more known option you get raped by a brand and you're money is going to nike anyway lol
I don't understand why Ikea is angry cuz it is directly a rip off from Air Force ones as like they couldn't stand on their own without air force worms but they look a lot cooler especially with that patent leather they look sick the only problem is they are like 300 or more
Thats my problem with this, at the end of the day they are only a few ways to actually design a functional, everyday sneaker outside of the crazy shit that high end companies make like Dior or Balenciaga. No matter what the design was they would be ripping off someone one way or the other.
tge problem is that nike was complicit for so long, so to file a legal claim now will limit the damages. not to mention, this trademark infringement is debatable because other brands have models that are similar. sneakers, fundamentally, make for interesting IP cases and are challenging in court due to the general design of sneakers.
i hate knockoffs of jordan 1's and forces air but i don't count bapestas as knockoffs bc they actually make interesting and unique color ways that nike would never do
imo the af1 and dunks are close enough non sneaker heads don't know the difference, hell I see people confuse dunk highs with aj1 highs . if it wasn't with the mid line on the bape I don't see where Nike has claim, but I almost never see people in bapes post 2006
Get ‘em! When you create a lane and other companies just jump in there? No sir! We gotta talk about this, which they did. No it’s just blatant disrespect.
I've been collecting sneakers for over a year and I've always thought that they were just collabs but then again I haven't been that interested in bape sneakers
Bapes are sick! The QC is top tier compared to nike, their old releases had their own unique color ways up until recently, take for instance the bape sk8 sta orange can def be a resemblance to the nike sb orange lobsters Both are orange and skate shoes lol
When I first saw bapes, I thought they were fake forces, then i realised bape is a huge brand, and I thought that nike's eye hadn't caught on bapestas or the other versions which are clearly stolen popular nike silhouettes
Why though? They aren't replicas of shoes. They are originals are they inspired yes but alot of things that take inspirations aren't replicas because they are different in key aspects (the swoosh) this would mean in order for them to be reps we have to redefine replica and that's not gonna happen.
feels like you should have a time limit on filing a trademark infringement, for example of nike was aware of the infringement and did nothing about it they shouldn’t be allowed to bring it up now
Bapes been around too long I remember ice creams where the shoes Way before Jordan 1s or dunks They were the grails back then Shoes that came in like a toy blister pack
Idk that I agree with intellectual property. You need to keep your product competitively made and affordable instead of locking of a part of the market
I think they both did benefit a lot from each other, also if you look at the lv af1s they have bootlegged many bapesta colorways. However I already wasn't a fan of cvcs expansion course, they just should have stayed in there own sub culture. That is what happens if a multi billion dollar company starts running a brand.
NIKE HAS TO MUCH CONTROL HOWEVER NIKE TOOK THE TIME AND TRULY INVESTED IN THERE PRODUCT SO THAT MEANS IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET SUED COME UP WITH YOUR OWN IDEA AND TRULY INVEST IN YOUR PRODUCT
EAT LIKE A KING WHOSE ON A BUDGET THREE TASTY OPTIONS FRIES,DRINK, AND NUGGETS ALL FOR FIVE BUCKS? WAIT THAT CANT BE RIGHT I JUST CONFIRMED THAT THAT’S THE REAL PRICE AT BK HAVE IT YOUR WAY YOU RULE!
Feels like i should get a pair of regular ass bapes and profit in five years
Just was thinking that lol
Facts
i have made a little over 22 grand doing this. i have like 2.5% of my retirement in BAPE shoes
@@Your_Daily_Scroll you've made 22 grand doing what exactly? Buying the shoes and selling them five years later or what? Share with me
Why u say that?
Wait till nike sees the Walmart shoes 💀💀
you act like they don’t know bro
its like puma and nike. similar design, but different enough to pass as its own product.
People that buy shoes at Walmart aren’t buying Nikes - there for who cares / on the other hand Bapes cost as much if not more than Nikes. & people wear both Nike & Bape - then Bape is taking market away from Nike off a shoe Nike basically developed.. big difference
There’s a huge difference between the people who buy BAPES and buy WALMART SHOES 💀
@@idc2229 😂 really
I hope Nike loses this one
same was hoping I wasn’t the only one
Why though
Same f nike
@@brianalonso9188 because it's nothing but greed and trying to kill off competitors restricting us costumers to only Nike products that bare the resemblance
Nike wins
bape stas are definitely knock off AF1s but they’re also 10x the quality of a normal AF1
Well, can't argue when the Fresh Prince himself has stated his opinion.
Ain't no way that's Will Smith 😯
yeah for 3x the price
@@sxke_naw bapes still more comfy
@@gold_vids_ it is Will Smith. He slapped me.
They didn't pursue an injunction all that time ago, I'd raise an eyebrow if the courts upheld a Nike suit now.
They probably agreed to leave US markets but has since gone back on agreements so therefore they have destroyed the compromise between Nike and nape
@@scjay yeah maybe there were informal agreements before.
Imo, they gave Bape more than enough time to change it up, now they just made more money off Nike and Nike is gonna get it back
correct. regardless, nike was complicit, if not a participant for so long. I work on IP cases. The IP infringement, at its core, is debatable to. nike is trying to scare BAPE. damages will be limited, if any.
It was apparently because the difference is copyright laws from Nike in the US and Bape in Asia that caused them to sue so recently
only took 20 MF years, but bape hasn't been the same since Nigo left.
wait is nigo the guy who started indigo studios la? i kind figure out what indigos connection to bape is🧐
@JDMBOI7 He started BBC and Ice Cream with pharrell, then human made with pharrell. Indigo studios is literally a bootleg brand that isn't sanctioned or cosigned by any of the brands that it purports to make. Some cool ideas though.
“A slight resemblance”
90% of the shoe is pretty much the afs 😂
Well nike didn't make da af1 format soooo
There’s a whole lot of little shoe Companies right now copying the look of the dunk.
KIZO 😂
@@elikennedy6934 exactly! Rip offs
Bro even the 550s and forum lows are kinda close
@@k3wlkid66 , the Adidas Forum actually debuted in 1984, the Nike Dunk in 1985 but I agree that the low top versions look kinda similar...
Same for the Reebok Club C, Autry Medalist, Off White out of Office, Represent Reptor low, Axel Arigato Ace A, Axel Arigato Orbit, Champion z80 and Karl Kani 89 low...
@@-Ehrenbruder-Sam- oh yea I wasn't saying they were a copy, just that they're pretty close in design. Tbh I love forums cuz of the similar silhouette and non overhyping of the cooler designs
bape is actually the reason Nike calls them "air force 1 '07" - they scrapped the original trade dress patent due to the similarity of the bapesta
They went after yums awhile back too lol. Yums made a comeback after the storm cleared & they been back in business since like 2021. I like both brands
also, bape has done collabs with almost every sneaker brand that is competing with nike. New balance, adidas, asics, converse (which I know is still owned by nike but still, its a separate entity). I dont think its just a coincidence. Nike has an oligopoly on the sneaker market, though there are competitors, nike is at the top.
Good. Any company small or big that steals designs to capitalize on someone else’s success should be sued.
They like “hell nawl they encroached on my territory”
I thought it was a collaboration and Nike was cool with it lol
I think the best way to defend this would be to take the logos to the street and asked if anyone could confuse the two. The real problem is they are releasing higher-quality shoes that look virtually identical.
That's unprofessional and unlikely
Lol 😂. It's been 15 years. Took the design and jacked up the price.
If you don't like em thats cool, but i genuinely enjoy bape sta and i don't really think anything is original or sacred, just stuff that exists
@@asseatermcboi2684 most definitely understand! They made a big influence on sneakers with the paton leather. I do have some history with the brand. Juss feel like they weren't genuine with creativity!
@@asseatermcboi2684 then you would be smart and buy the cheaper more known option you get raped by a brand and you're money is going to nike anyway lol
That shoe doesn't look anything like the air force one, it has a star on it.
Same silhouette, different logo
That’s the point 😂
Time to start buying bapestas, resellers gonna go crazy
I actually like the bapstas more than the AF1s
I don't understand why Ikea is angry cuz it is directly a rip off from Air Force ones as like they couldn't stand on their own without air force worms but they look a lot cooler especially with that patent leather they look sick the only problem is they are like 300 or more
I almost don’t understand how else a shoe is supposed to look. The Air Force one is what a kindergartner would draw if you told him to draw a shoe.
Thats my problem with this, at the end of the day they are only a few ways to actually design a functional, everyday sneaker outside of the crazy shit that high end companies make like Dior or Balenciaga.
No matter what the design was they would be ripping off someone one way or the other.
I genuinely thought Nike and bapesta were the same brand
I think that they are actually nicer then the AF1’s
tge problem is that nike was complicit for so long, so to file a legal claim now will limit the damages. not to mention, this trademark infringement is debatable because other brands have models that are similar. sneakers, fundamentally, make for interesting IP cases and are challenging in court due to the general design of sneakers.
They are probably suing them just to justify suing KIY
nike sourced some craigslist bapestas
I see people wearing the shoes and thinking what the fuck are they doing
i hate knockoffs of jordan 1's and forces air but i don't count bapestas as knockoffs bc they actually make interesting and unique color ways that nike would never do
imo the af1 and dunks are close enough non sneaker heads don't know the difference, hell I see people confuse dunk highs with aj1 highs . if it wasn't with the mid line on the bape I don't see where Nike has claim, but I almost never see people in bapes post 2006
I love Bapes for many Reasons I don't want them to get sued but I understand why a they are getting sued... Definitely getting a Pair
Not sure why companies try to copy Nike so closely and think that it’s legal
Get ‘em! When you create a lane and other companies just jump in there? No sir! We gotta talk about this, which they did. No it’s just blatant disrespect.
The logo is patented, not the shoe design, and if Nike wants to patent the AF1 they're gonna be suing a whole lot more people than Bape.
I never knew how they got away with it in the first place to be honest
I've been collecting sneakers for over a year and I've always thought that they were just collabs but then again I haven't been that interested in bape sneakers
The ceo WHOOO
I remember star berry's look amazingly like a bape but where 10$
Bapes are sick! The QC is top tier compared to nike, their old releases had their own unique color ways up until recently, take for instance the bape sk8 sta orange can def be a resemblance to the nike sb orange lobsters
Both are orange and skate shoes lol
Almost every single shoe at walmart( and 1 especially) steals heavily from nike/jordan feels like a bigger target than bapestas
Those kenzos be looking a lot like air forces 🤔
I would assume BAPE already had a legal team go through this before they even began production. Would be stupid if they didn't.
As if Bape would effect Nikes profit in the slightest! 💯
i always thought why were endorsed by nike
As a huge bapesta collector 30+ pairs im bumbed
Why? If Nike somehow wins, you’re collection becomes a part of history demented with an end. If they lose, you get more pairs at a faster volume
If Nike wins and they have to discontinue or ban them. Then your collection value will go up dramatically
When I first saw bapes, I thought they were fake forces, then i realised bape is a huge brand, and I thought that nike's eye hadn't caught on bapestas or the other versions which are clearly stolen popular nike silhouettes
Maybe nike should make the shoes quality better
Mannnn fuck Nike.
I’m going to go find me a pair of these lol
The ceo whoo??🤨
i think its stupid bc i have so many pairs of bapestas and love em and if they quit making them im gonna cry bro
I was happy to get a W on the Adidas/BAPE campuses. My first pair of BAPE and for under $200cnd.
Bape is too expensive. I paid $350 for hoodie .. I like the design .. but lower the price please
I think Bapes should be reps at this point haha. Can you make a video on that?
Why though? They aren't replicas of shoes. They are originals are they inspired yes but alot of things that take inspirations aren't replicas because they are different in key aspects (the swoosh) this would mean in order for them to be reps we have to redefine replica and that's not gonna happen.
Maybe Bapes can site their sources on the shoes?
Lol but It was a light hearted comment based on the similarities. Wasn’t going that deep with it.
Bapes are technically bootleg. B.
Lol what ? They make replica bapes out here
feels like you should have a time limit on filing a trademark infringement, for example of nike was aware of the infringement and did nothing about it they shouldn’t be allowed to bring it up now
Nike just wants more money and no competition to steal that from them
They doing it because Bape is popular. China does it everyday all day . Badminded
Bapes been around too long
I remember ice creams where the shoes
Way before
Jordan 1s or dunks
They were the grails back then
Shoes that came in like a toy blister pack
Bro imagine soulja boi right now bahaha
Kizzo *sweating*
W2C that hoodie my G?
Idk that I agree with intellectual property. You need to keep your product competitively made and affordable instead of locking of a part of the market
I think they both did benefit a lot from each other, also if you look at the lv af1s they have bootlegged many bapesta colorways. However I already wasn't a fan of cvcs expansion course, they just should have stayed in there own sub culture. That is what happens if a multi billion dollar company starts running a brand.
I think ITS only fair because Nike came up with the design thought long about it an Bape is making money on the very similar design
My thoughts is, I want a pair….
Air forces, dunks, and jordan 1’s are literally the same shoe dont @ me cause you cannot convince me otherwise
So they would rather have a lump sum instead of maybe working out a deal and earn some profit out of the shoes and earn way more money
The air force 1s are just a rip off of the Adidas Top Ten lows lmao
Fuck! I just assumed it was a collab with nike 😮
World should sue Nike for tax evasion
Nike coming for everybody lol
Ain’t that the Truth like their really gunna lose any profit because of another shoe company
Perhaps because.. everyone keeps stealing their patented, trademarked silhouettes?
Kinda like Ferrari...
Sure would be nice of Nike made shoes of decent quality so not every sweatshop can reproduce exact replicas
They’re not the only Ives stealing Nike shoe designs
It’s only kuzz bape makes money if they were some Walmart shoes or sum they wouldn’t care smh
Bro im not tweaking but i saw a bape that is supposed to be a copy of the travis fragments low
Didn't they did a Collab together on a air force which was air force Kobe steak?
Doesn’t that mean if Nike wins and bape stops making shoes the ones in circulation worth increases
NIKE HAS TO MUCH CONTROL HOWEVER NIKE TOOK THE TIME AND TRULY INVESTED IN THERE PRODUCT SO THAT MEANS IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET SUED COME UP WITH YOUR OWN IDEA AND TRULY INVEST IN YOUR PRODUCT
the skatestas look like airforce 2 sbs
GOOD! Swooosh , checkmate!!! Now bape better lower their shit like the air for 1 s or lower!!!
It's about damn time
Nah uhh it shouldn’t have ever happened and the patent protection is dead this is outrageous
ITS PRONOUNCED NIK-E NOT NIKE
They wanted to let bape make more money so they can blame them for a higher loss of sales/damages and sue for more money lol
Is say it’s about damn time, don’t know how someone goes that long evading copyright infringements. Partly Nike’s fault for not stopping it earlier
Let’s be honest bapes actually do look better they just look cheaper
I mean tbf it’s not like it’s a copy and paste this should be legal
didnt bape win a court case years ago against nike?
Nike is too over priced and those af1s are so fucking uncomfortable
Bape > Nike
theres no way u actually think a camo shark hoodie and bootleg af1s is drip 💀💀💀
BAPE > nike
@@mikeyk7792 bruh nike has been around and popular for like 50 years u prolly cant even afford bape 💀
@@gatorninja4782 yessirr atleast they give the silhouette some justice and cool colourways most Force colourways ain’t nothing
@@gatorninja4782 you know that’s just my opinion right? You probably can’t afford both of them.
Mfs who buys bape: “oh af1 aren’t creative but bapesta is with their colorway!!”
Also bape copying the entire af1 design except for the swoosh💀
Kizo will probably be next then 😂
Honestly what is a show supposed to look like. Honestly between the 2 he uses for a comparison I’d take the Bape looks better lol
Noooooooooo😢😢😢😢😭😢
About damn time
They’re just bootlegs, I don’t see how there’s a reason to sue
bruh just have nike and bape have a colab
Wish I can say I cared . Didn't even know this was going on .
EAT LIKE A KING WHOSE ON A BUDGET THREE TASTY OPTIONS FRIES,DRINK, AND NUGGETS ALL FOR FIVE BUCKS? WAIT THAT CANT BE RIGHT I JUST CONFIRMED THAT THAT’S THE REAL PRICE
AT
BK
HAVE IT YOUR WAY
YOU RULE!
bape got mid since nigo sold himself out🤭
Is that babytron
Omi in a hell cat started this mess
Bape quality shits on AF1
Kizo next hopefully