Ana's Reality Check For Biden & The Democrats
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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"President Biden's Environmental Protection Agency announced far-reaching climate regulations this week in an attempt to dramatically alter how Americans drive over the next decade.
The big picture: The proposals are designed to ensure that two-thirds of new passenger cars sold in the U.S. are all-electric by 2032. Less than 6% of new vehicles sold last year were electrics.
Why it matters: Trying to impose top-down regulations to nudge Americans' behavior is rarely politically popular. Just look at the intense backlash over federal vaccine mandates that were ultimately struck down by the Supreme Court."*
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This is probably the first time I watched an entire TYT video… Ana has a good head on her shoulders.
Not a fan of the young turks, but boy did she nail it!! Go Ana!!
Your condescending tone aside, if you ever happen to read this message Ana, you fundamentally don’t seem to understand the language of the laws passed around this transition. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy electric cars, the laws are mandating that a certain portion of the new car sales From car companies in the United States have to be electric vehicles. This doesn’t put the burden on the buyers, this puts the burden on the sellers. They have to find a way to make these vehicles cost competitive so that people will voluntarily buy them through the laws of supply and demand , and make the prices more competitive than their fossil fuel counterparts. Your entire yelling tirade was based off of a premise that was just absolutely certifiably false.
Exactly .. WTF is she even talking about? Literally the first thing she said was that 60% of new cars will be electric SO 1-THAT'S NOT ALL NEW CARS & 2-NOBODY IS FORCING anybody to buy NEW CARS
Ana, you are such a force if ever you run for any office you've got my vote.
By the way, Anna, anytime I criticized my own party, which was the Democrats for anything I got called right wing and a bigot. All I had an issue was with anybody identifying as a woman being allowed in our personal spaces. That sealed the deal for me, I will never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. I’m now a registered independent and could give a shit if Democrats lose forever
how emotional...but the way u refuse to go for republican tells me everything i need to know. what a trash party truly
@@jjan2383 is this Cenk?
Mining the materials for the batteries is a huge impact on environment. Why do they keep punishing individuals and not address the 70% of carbon emissions coming from industry. Also where is the electricity coming from to charge them? Natural gas? Nuclear? Coal plants etc
She got it completely wrong. It isn't aimed at individuals. It's aimed at car manufacturers and dealerships. It says absolutely nothing about forcing you to get rid of your gas-powered vehicle or forcing you to buy an EV instead. 33% of the vehicles being sold in 2030 would still be gas-powered. This is about giving incentives to car manufacturers to focus more on flooding the market with EVs. If you see EVs at dealerships around your house when you're looking for a car, you're more likely to buy an EV. Simple as that. If you don't even have the option, like most places in America, then you won't even consider buying an EV.
$25k to replace battery every 100k miles, LOL.Truck just crossed 300k , cost me $2,00 to rebuild tranny, engine still kickin ass, total..$2500and change. If it was electric, $75k and change !
dumb BS....especially in 9 years...nice try
To replace a battery it's actually 12-15k. Still expensive but not quite what you just said. Either way most people can't just spend that kind of money.
@@serrahighsfinest "'To replace a battery it's actually 12-15k." - now...not in 9 years.
Another showing that capitalism WILL NOT solve this problem.
Yet again, NUCLEAR POWER would be a fair and viable answer to MANY of these questions. But, the coal and oil industries have ran the most effective smear campaign in history against Nuclear energy.
To be fair, the electric grids would still need to be upgraded to support that kind of power. They’re due for some upkeep anyway.
Or solar powered cars
There will be plenty of used gasoline vehicles, it only applies to new cars sold. The data shows it would take about 20 years of new EV sales to eliminate gasoline vehicles
It is a likely projection not an acturate occurrence.
you must realize the value of every gasoline vehicle still on the road at that point will SKYROCKET! They will become rare commodities only the rich can afford.
The price of a brand new F150 gas truck is about the same price as the electric one, so a tax credit will reduce your price if you choose the electric. At some point people replace their cars, even if they are used cars. The more electric cars on the market, the more electric used cars will be for sale for those who need to buy used. The tax credit is to encourage you to choose the electric option especially when the retail of both options are basically the same.
Top of your game Anna. A+ from this viewer.
Trickle-Down Reaganomics. Puke.
@@zumatoobs It's clear your favorite paint chip flavor as a child was lead.
@@zumatoobs "You can't put 2 sentences together tho." Thanks for your projection, Reich Winger. Anyways, as its clear that your brain literally doesn't have two brain cells to rub together, the only place you deserve to be is back under the rock that you crawled out from. As you scream in perpetual darkness, know that, unlike you, I did string more than two sentences together. Toodles!
Meanwhile billionaires fly their private jets and companies spill their trains all over the country. But my cars the issue
Millions more cars. And only talkn bout new cars in ten or more yrs.
It's going to get to the point where Gasoline and Diesel powered vehicles will no longer be manufactured. Have a problem with buying an electric vehicle? Good luck.
Big companies always cater to the masses. That won’t happen. 🤷♀️
@@janettighe7242
You REALLY don't have a clue,
GM has already said that they are going to stop manufacturing new Gasoline and Diesel powered vehicles by 2035.
The United States is not the only Country they sell vehicles in, but iit IS the number 1 Country in denying Global Warming.
Explain to me how people on a fixed income, barely able to buy food, household products, AND pay their bills supposed to pay for these cars?! Come on Biden
Susan your practical and seems normal is become rare. its a wacky world. I believe their idiotic plan will be a proven failure.
I agree that the EV tax incentives should be much more, and less restrictive, than what Biden has set up. That said, do you own a car now? Do you foresee that you will need to replace it someday? Then please make your next car an EV. There are plenty of used ones now available which would cost much less than brand new ones. And the good news is: EVs are much cheaper to fuel and maintain. In the long run, your fixed income will no longer have to cover the price at the pump.
@@Yanquetino not to parcel words but you are not able to comprehend realism. People won't afford them and used one's batteries deplete annually. They are cost prohibitive to replace and the energy recharging them comes from fuel generators and in California hot weather they issue pleas to electric vehicle drivers not to recharge as the power grid is overloaded. Its going to be a proven failure mark my word. And biden will be long gone by then. the cheaper to maintain is not efficient once the battery depletes.
@@Yanquetino do you even know what people on fixed incomes survive on?
@@dennis3351 Of course I do. Do you?
The electric cars mentioned are similar in price to other new gas powered cars. If you want or need to save money, you can still keep buying used cars. The difference is that new gas powered cars will be phased out and replaced with electric cars that cost a similar amount upfront and have lower fuel costs, lower maintenance costs, and a lower environmental cost. Once electric cars have been the norm for a few years, there will be a glut of used electric cars as well. I really don't see the issue.
The value of used gasoline cars will skyrocket once they stop producing them. Your argument is ridiculous!
@@thefairnessdoctrine Probably not. There won't be any reason to spend extra on them
@@Matthew-ghjkl um there certainly will be. A huge portion of this country live in very rural areas. To announce a push to EVs BEFORE a huge expansion to the charging and electrical grid is beyond ridiculous. We need the infrastructure FIRST! We still get most of our power from freaking coal. The need for gasoline for a huge portion of the country is being completely overlooked here. Not to mention the majority of the country do NOT buy new vehicles, a large portion in fact rely on the cheapest used vehicles on the market just to get by. This is insannity
@@thefairnessdoctrine What rural area do you live in that doesn't have electricity? Electric vehicles work really well in suburbs and rural areas. It's urban areas that will need a large number of chargers.
@@Matthew-ghjkl there is electricity, there are NOT adequate charging stations. And not to mention nearly 100% of our electricity comes from coal. not to mention our grid is crap. We are NOT even close to ready for this type of move. If Biden wanted this type of thing to be accepted he would have needed to put out a vast plan to fix those issues BEFORE a foolish and ridiculous announcement like this.
Do people not understand what "New" means. You will have PLENTY of used car options out there for gasoline. All the plans for the 2030s are for "New" cars. People are acting like there won't be anything to buy other than electric vehicles.
2032 is plenty of time to get shit done, question is how committed our lawmakers are on this.
What ever happened to the high speed rail? God that would be a game changer.
oil companies and Elon Musk killed it in CA
Yes it would be, but we had a lot of GOP governors outright rejecting funding for said projects and a lot of obstructionism calling it a pipe dream of yesteryear. It was funded through congress, but only so much can happen when the governors refuse to do anything with the money or misappropriate it elsewhere for other projects.
@@DGPHolyHandgrenade Uh great news(sarcasm) Maybe they should put a China spin on it saying "What you think the Chinese are better then us with their high speed rail?". I know wishful thinking.
@@DGPHolyHandgrenade It's true that Republican governors like Rick Scott have shut down HSR, but that's not the only explanation. Here in California the HSR line is taking forever to be completed, simply because of the reality that building these kinds of big projects in the US is complicated and difficult.
I’m old. I know we need to transition. But I’ll never have a car payment again, and I’ll always have a car until I cant drive. So….
You'll be okay. We don't have that long.
@@tinoyb9294 sad. But probably true.
How about some passenger rail and public transit?
That's great, but rural areas don't have that luxury. The closest bus stop to my home is 2 miles, and the bus doesn't run past 7pm.
@@dawnwessel8459 proving his point
@@anonymousbiscuit5799 the point being, rural areas will always be last. Even when it's every bit as important for us to have alternatives to cars, we will never see what cities have. Ever.
How about... electric busses/trains in the urban areas. No need for city folk to buy a car if it's too expensive.
The Europeans do it already 🤷♀️
BTW, you only get up to $7,500 IF!!!! You paid that much in taxes that year you purchased the vehicle. I only paid about $2500 in taxes so guess what I got? $2,500. So keep that in mind as well... You may not even get all that money anyway.
Indeed, they do have car leases that gets around that limit. But, then you have a lease with the goal of purchasing your car at the end of the lease.
The key phrase is "Currently". Has Ana actually looked at car prices today, how many cars are available under $30k? Ana also seems to think the dem's are in control of the fed government 😅. Look what happened to the infrastructure bill. Problems with EVs aren't going to be addressed if there's no push to require the r&d to solve the problems. Pushing car companies to develop EVs will result in advances in the tech. We definitely need to address infrastructure problems associated with moving to EVs also. Unfortunately, you have too many people in the federal government looking to stifle forward movement.
The prices will go down Dramatically in the next few years. Ev production in the legacy brands are increasing exponentially. The power grid on the other hand will need to be addressed. Also there will be a huge used car market.
This is all necessary growing pains for infrastructure change. But she's right the government needs to start funding these things.
Nah, she's correct. It's simply numbers: If food cost twice as much and cars cost 3 times as much, the real transition is one in which we're turning into a slave state.
The real tax credits should go to the companies that are creating the most lowest priced cars (and the companies should compete for those tax benefits).
I'm really hoping that the initial high cost of these cars is only a means to grow the market of EVs in a big way before prices find a way to come down. There's nothing right wing about demanding costs to come down. It's called protecting the financial power of lower class citizens.
Will Biden sell his Vette as an example?
No. Neither would you. But he's responsible enough to stop driving it.
You don't have to sell it. Just can't drive it. And when he became President, he was barred from driving. It is a museum piece that he can cherish
@@sawyermillman985 exactly. But I would not force everybody else to switch to electro shit.
Ana is single handedly bringing me back to listening to TYT.
This has got to be one of her worse takes ever
@@chriswill9473 it isnt, because she is speaking for people like MYSELF! People that live in areas of the country where EV is NOT viable, and probably never will be! People that cant afford the costs this is going to impose. People struggling to get by already!
@@thefairnessdoctrine states are giving away their own rebates that can be stacked along with federal. Electric cars are cheaper to run and maintain. The price difference is not that much , electric cars are viable just about anywhere in 2035 , if not just get a used gas
@@chriswill9473 you must realize the value of every gasoline vehicle still on the road at that point will SKYROCKET! They will become out of reach! 50% of the country buy the cheapest used vehicles on the market just to survive already! This will exponentially get worse and worse!
@@thefairnessdoctrine I feel like your just being a boomer and dismissing electrics cars for yourself , speculating that in 12 years all has cars will cost too much. It’s all nonsense
Is the electric car market that different from the normal new car market right now? The lower end of the EV market being around 25k - 30k is right where I'd expect a new gas powered sedan to be. It seems sorta reasonable to me, especially given the fact that they're trying to use market forces to steer away from gas cars instead of harder regulations 🤷
Right. Anna’s going for some easy likes right now. She’s trying to show herself as a ‘reasonable’ progressive. Shooting for another dopamine hit after ‘birthing person’ made the rounds.
Jon Stewart for President
I actually really agree with Ana here. I live an a crummy apartment in Long Beach with no parking, I park on the street. Half my building doesn't have parking, and sometimes we will have to park overnight as far away as half a mile. Where the fuck would I charge a car?
I work as a scientist on construction sites. I routinely drive upwards of 4000 miles a month going to all my sites across SoCal. While I desperately want climate issues tackled, I also understand why electric vehicles are not good for everyone right now. They don't fit into basically any construction worker's life, any tradesman's life, or anyone that has to commute larger distances while not having overnight access to a charging station.
I'd like to see biofuels expanded on. For similar reasons to why I like buying second hand clothes: the item you already own is the most environmentally friendly. Altering or dropping in biofuel adapted engines into existing road safe cars is a more environmentally friendly way to transition to renewables.
Personally I want to see algae based biodiesel, but we'll see what happens.
I'm a construction worker that changes job sites once or twice a year. Sometimes three or four times. I bought an electric car that had a gas powered generator in it. I almost never use the gas generator which gets 50 miles a gallon. Most of the time electric is all that I need, I can charge at home though. Still Costco and Walmart have chargers, I could charge while shopping. The job I'm on now, a two year job has free charging on site that comes from solar panels on the roof. The money I save on gas is well worth what I paid, and the sometimes having to charge away from home or work.
@@JohnDoe-jq1br then you don't do grading or underground most likely, and not in Southern California. Unless it's a MASSIVE job, most of us have 1 to 2 jobs a month. And most of us drive anywhere from 50 to 100 miles in, and in the summer when it's hot as balls, we use the AC in the car at lunch. Some of these guys will be living in San Bernardino and working in Encino because that's where their company bid and won and sent them.
For what I do, sometimes I cover multiple jobsites across multiple counties, and use an entire tank of gas in 1 day.
Plus the aforementioned "I don't have anywhere to overnight charge it" thing means that I cannot maintain enough of a charge without effectively extending my work day by an hour, because the electricity of the car keeps being used even if you're at a stand still behind an accident on the 91.
@@afreaknamedallie1707 No problem, I'm educated so I don't do earth work. You purposely moved 50 miles away from where the work is. Perhaps the smarter thing to do is move closer to where you work. It seems silly to drive your pickup truck 50-100 miles a day. Personally, I don't take a job 100 miles away unless the company rents me a hotel so that I don't have to drive back and forth. A good hotel has a charger. Yes, charging takes longer today than pumping gas. (Batteries are changing and charging faster) Do two things at once. Go out to eat while charging. Walk your dog. Go to the gym, or go for a run. Use having an electric car to help yourself get healthy. Nothing in life fits everyone perfectly. Adapt, overcome, move on. In your lifetime electric cars will be the only cars available. Get over it.
@@JohnDoe-jq1br also to boot "get a hotel to charge your car" and "walk your dog while your car is charging" are conflicting advice because hotels don't want people leaving their dogs in rooms unattended for 10 hours a day.
You're just reaching for "simple" solutions to avoid any actual critical thinking on the topic.
@@afreaknamedallie1707 Seriously? Hotel and dog were two different things? Do I really have to give you a minute by minute itinerary? In a hotel you can charge while you sleep, or play in the pool. If you claim that you can't charge at home, then go someplace where you can charge, and walk your dog as you wait. You could read a book. Surf the internet, watch youtube video's, write E-mails. You are trying your best to come up with reasons that you wouldn't be able to charge. Every adult in my family are driving EV's now. I have yet to hear someone say that they want to go back to gas. At one time Americans either walked or road a horse. If you lived in the early 1900's I can hear you now. "I can't be bothered to drive to a gas station. I don't have to take my horse in for gas or an oil change" Ha Ha Ha
The best move is to push hybrids' cars. (Really not sponsored)
Lower the prices on these vehicles and promote them more.
The reason is because they can take electricity and gas.
There is one good exception to ana's criticism and that is the chevy bolt EV. I just bought the luxury model a few months ago, and brand new it is the same price as a new honda accord. It gets 265 miles of range, (about the same as the most expensive teslas) comes with the $7500 tax rebate (which comes out of taxes owed not in addition to your refund by the way, so if you didn't pay 7500 in taxes you will only get a rebate for what you did pay).
I use it for pizza delivery driving and only pay $50 extra per month on my electric bill instead of the 200/month that i was paying.
The only drawback is the lack of fast charging stations in my area, so having a house to charge it at is kind of necessary.
I just bought a fully electric car for under 10k with rebates , Ana has no idea what’s she’s talking about , so many cheaper used electric cars that still qualify for rebates
I hate these arguements! Banning the sale of new ICE vehicles won't end gas cars. You don't have to buy new. Just keep your car(s) longer (especially if you have something as reliable as a Civic;) and/or buy used. In time the infrastructure will grow and the tech will advance so that prices will drop & having nothing but EVs on our roads will be possible.
you are missing a HUGE part of this. Once they stop producing gasoline vehicles the value of ALL gasoline vehicles will SKYROCKET! The people that cant afford the electric will neither be able to afford used gasoline!
@@thefairnessdoctrine There will be a transition period for sure. I keep cars longer than most. My car now is 18 years old & running strong. If the last gas car is sold in 2030 and a car can survive for around 2 decades (possibly more) that skyrocket in prices can be avoided until 2050 (by buying new before the deadline). You'd be surprised at how much tech can be advanced and produced if there's a profit motive & that now exists for personal transportation. If the electric cars become cheaper and our grids are improved to handle them the die hard gear head will pony up the extra cash for ICE while the average daily commuter will learn to love their more practical EV.
Ana, you are right! The democrats need to further help citizens afford to EVs. And American cities must invest much, much more in public transportation. But it seems that you don’t understand why it’s so important to transition away from fossil fuels. If we miss the 2+ degree goal in the Paris agreement our world will start to become uninhabitable to us. So please, instead of just shitting on the politicians who actually try to save us, please offer some progressive, productive alternative solutions.
I love my 3 hummers
this reminds me of my friend who doesn't make enough to afford medical insurance but makes too much for assistance in illinois. so he just doesn't go to the doctor, though he needs to, and has to pay a tax penalty at the end of the year. regardless of the intention, only setting him further behind financially.
I'm in the same situation in Indiana. I am almost eligible for government insurance but have been warned that my house that is paid for , might go to the government . I've been told that you have to not have any assets at all for government insurance.
The federal tax penalty for being uninsured ended in 2019. If you're being charged, it's your state doing so
@@ammocandoit ok, got it. looks like california, dc, massachusetts, new jersey, and rhode island are the only states charging penalties these days.
I don't blame Ana for not wanting another car payment. I got a 2007 ford f150 I payed off back in 2010. Life is so much easier without a car payment.
The thing is, she's being a bit extreme here. The law only applies to new cars, as though there won't be a used car market. She claims to drive a used car already, so if by 2035 she needs another vehicle, guess what? She can buy another preowned car that still runs on gas.
@@anthonydelfino6171 C'mon, used car market is going to be marked up because sellers know you cant get these cars anymore. In the end, cars in California are going to get more expensive.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 they already are marked up. But that doesn't disprove my point that you will still be able to purchase a gas powered vehicle even after 2035
@@anthonydelfino6171 THat's the problem, you think everyone is going to be able to afford the mark up?
@@westcoastplinkin6559 Which is why I think Ana is right that the state needs to do more to make the electric cars affordable. Take away the means testing for credits and just make it cheaper for everyone to buy.
But I also expect that the cost of these cars will go down both as the technology becomes cheaper. 12 years means that these cars will definitely become cheaper to make and sell. As well as, on top of that, more demand means they can mass produce even more, which will push down price.
Don't worry. By 2032 the minimum wage will remain the same.
How about a massive build out of public transportation? Cost efficient non-polluting trains. Instead of billionaires spending billions to joy ride in space, how about building bullet trains? If trains were nice and efficient people would use them.
While we're at it, I'd love to see some massive public works projects to create water infrastructure, pipelines to get water from the parts of the country that are flooding to the parts of the country that are in drought. Water is going to be a massive fustercluck and source of fights as climate change ramps up, and we should be ahead of it.
It’s just NEW cars for the requirement. People can still buy used. I drive a ‘07 Honda I fully expect to be able to drive for many more years. My husband drives a ‘00 Lexus. People don’t need to buy new cars all the time. Technology is evolving quickly and this isn’t the scary thing you’re trying to make it out to be. I’m guessing people who had a horse and carriage railed against cars in the early 1900’s.
Food for thought. Don't forget about unintentional accidents. I was rear ended while driving my 2001 Toyota 4Runner, which I had expected to drive 4Ever by a 500CLS (or whatever) Mercedes. Insurance totaled it out for less than I paid (Rules of the game). Now I need a vehicle. Today's market is insane! Thankfully I have mechanical skills and a project car I can expedite into service. My story is not uncommon, minus the project car and mechanical skills. Most people are one unfortunate accident away from shelling out unbelievable prices in today's market. Please try and look beyond your (particularly at this moment) "blissful situation" and imagine your new reality after a crash. Prices for good used cars are as inflated as new cars. Imagine buying your Honda or your husband's Lexus today. Count your blessings and stay humble. You don't have a dog in this fight.
This isn't actually a technology problem, it's actually a greed problem. Dealer markups were literally insane during the pandemic (a good car enthusiast RUclips channel called Donut actually started playing a markup game involving greedy dealerships, the markup could exceed 100% sometimes), even now just 4 months ago this video went up and a Kia that normally costs 18 grand MSRP got marked up to 26 grand (markup of about 44%), the young folks have looked stunned by some of the price markups thru the pandemic period..... ruclips.net/video/RJ5t_EXhR9E/видео.html
@@lifelonglearner7901 knock on wood! 🤫This is a big worry for me. I know I could most likely not replace my van with something as good, or even similar. I have a 15-year-old permitted driver and I’m pretty worried she’s going to wreck my car. I’m hoping to hold out for a hybrid Odyssey. I have a small driving radius around town, so could probably go a few days on one charge (though I honestly don’t know how they even work, but I suppose I’ll figure it out when the time comes).
Democrats, Democrats, it's just trains. ALL YOU HAVE TO IS OFFER TRAINS. A reliable, govt run, passenger train network is all you'd need to do to make transportation in America 1000% greener.
I would love to see a cross country high speed rail.
Trains would be an improvement. More public transportation, please.
@@lisarochwarg4707 Yeah, I'm for public transportation in general, but I wanted to keep it punchy
For as much as Ana is presenting this problem what is her alternative route in dealing with climate change?
Find solutions that don't rely on further harm to the poorest people? Have you given that a thought?
@@afreaknamedallie1707 what's your plan, please be specific and not just throw out a vague platitude. We can start by nationalizing our entire oil and gas industry. A vital national resource like that should not be in the hands of private corporations that are gouging everybody, including the poorest people.
@@martymar1964 I agree that oil shouldn't have been a private industry, but I don't think fossil fuels should continue past the next 50 years.
I stated elsewhere I'm for algae based biodesiel. Two birds, one stone. Algae removes more carbon from the air per pound than trees. There's also a handful of labs that are working to genetically modify algae species to produce more oil byproducts naturally than they do in the wild. Basically we could have oil producing algae growth screens all over big cities that could double as oil production spaces. Algae doesn't have to be grown across big flat groundwater ponds, but can be grown between standing sheets of plexiglass and shit. This could even be socially owned, ether at the municipal level or state or federal. Side buildings with these things, line streets with some, use old warehouses to converte to new oil refineries, cheaper oil for poorer consumers. Do a state funded or tax incentivized engine conversion program where the fossil fuel dependant components of a standard engine are swapped for biofuel compatible ones. 🎉🎉 tadaa! A change in transit systems that neither price gouges poor people or displaces them for high speed railways. A change that doesn't require major amounts of mining for new resources, since a thing you already own is almost always more environmentally friendly than buying a new thing. Oh and it cleans up pollution 🙃
Expecting poor people to bear the financial brunt of change in a way that literally continues the weather transfer of the Reaganomics system of inequality will only further hamstring people and lead to violence. Like you understand housing is already too unaffordable, how the fuck are poor people supposed to accept "trickle down" electric cars that require 20k new batteries?
Moreover, part of why I'm not fully on board with electronic vehicles is I drive stick shift. Automatic transmissions simply drive stupid, all the time: not downshifting when it would provide more horsepower and efficiency, staying too long in a gear for the rate of acceleration, etc. Until there are electric options where a manual control of the transmission is allowable and make mechanical sense, I and others like myself prefer the control provided in manual transmission combustion engines. In snow, ice, mud, offroad, or otherwise unsafe conditions, manual is the way to go. You get finesse with manual that the algorithms in an automatic do not possess.
@@afreaknamedallie1707 Was I the one on RUclips presenting the problems that exist with finding solutions to dealing with climate change? If you're complaining and or criticizing, what is the alternative solutions that would be in the best interests of both sides? Instead of trying trying to come at me miss busy body!!
you are missing a HUGE part of this. Once they stop producing gasoline vehicles the value of ALL gasoline vehicles will SKYROCKET! The people that cant afford the electric will neither be able to afford used gasoline!
Actually Ana the 2035 rule or law on electric vehicles are only in production of new cars,there will be no ban on already existing gas cars,personally if you take car of your vehicle,there would be no need to constantly change or trade up on your vehicle every so many years!
She doesn't seem to understand that incredibly basic concept though. In the video, she repeatedly makes the claim that people are being forced to buy EVs and make the switch. She does that while completely ignoring the fact that 33% of the vehicles being sold in 2030 would still be gas-powered vehicles. The video is full of what seems to be fear-mongering. It's crazy how similar she seems to the average FOX News host in this video. Absolutely stunning stuff to see from TYT... It's obvious that this burden would be placed on the car manufacturers and dealerships, not the American people.
you are missing a HUGE part of this. Once they stop producing gasoline vehicles the value of ALL gasoline vehicles will SKYROCKET! The people that cant afford the electric will neither be able to afford used gasoline!
@@tEzekielt you are missing a HUGE part of this. Once they stop producing gasoline vehicles the value of ALL gasoline vehicles will SKYROCKET! The people that cant afford the electric will neither be able to afford used gasoline!
Ana what was the sound at time 8:00
I caught wind of that too
I agree with everything she said but shouldn't we put pressure on gavin newsom instead of just saying ooh we can't do this
Second problem with this is Anna is totally wrong. People should not get any tax credits for electric cars at all. We should slowly ban gas cars and put all our financial assistance into transit. Assisting transit is the “trickle up” rather than “trickle down” way to do the tax policy. When you just subsidize cars you only subsidize people who can afford carsl there are also lots of inefficiencies in putting cars first. It’s a system where if you take care of as many trips as possible without cars the people in cars benefit, but it doesn’t work in reverse.
James, while I agree with you that public transit should be the priority… it is going to take a long time before we have the political will for that. Plus the infrastructure for that would be unimaginably wife reaching.
Make the oil companies pay for it since this is something that should have been done DECADES AND DECADES ago.
They are so wealthy that they don't realize that average Americans don't buy $60k vehicles. To them it's like $20k, $70k or $60k for a car isn't that much. Most of them are rich from corruption and trading stocks which they get to vote on laws that affect it.
Wish I could bid on stocks and then vote on laws that would make that same stock go through the roof. These politicians are so out of touch they have no clue what it's like to be an ordinary citizen in this country.
Just a buy a used electric car and take advantage of the used car rebate. I just got a fully electric for under 10k after rebates
@@chriswill9473 do you understand that about 50% of this country dont even buy 10k vehicles? They buy the cheapest used vehicles on the market just to get by. And if the government forces ICE to be out of production the used market will go INSANE!
25% of the cars and trucks in Pennsylvania have no insurance and are not registered they are not inspected they are not legal to be driven in any way
This is the case across America because people cannot afford insurance on the salary they make.
They can barely afford to pay the rent
No one is out there buying an $80,000 car
The 1% has five or six cars and a two million-dollar RV and a yacht and a jet and twelve houses
They are the people buying new cars
The bottom 85% of the country is not buying a new car
Car loans are now ten years because they cost as much as a house used to
Car payments are 1200 dollars a month
No one can afford that
Nice job Anna!
She is dead on ,yes we have to transition to battery powered vehicles, and yes the fossil fuel industry need to pony up to support that transition
Why?
Maintaining a gas car is very expensive as well. I had a lemon a few years ago. It was killing me financially. It was all I could afford, and I had to have a car to get to work. Where’s the gov assistance for that BS.
EVs will jack up electric bills on all households including those who don’t have any car.
Chinese electric vehicles are exploding & spontaneously igniting on their own due to cheap parts, this is just a horrible thought.
Just for the record, there’s no such thing as a zero emissions vehicle. You’re just moving the emissions from individual vehicles to centralized power plants which are largely coal and natural gas powered. And that’s not taking into consideration all the pollution associated with manufacturing and operating these vehicles and the fact that our electric grid would collapse if required to recharge that many vehicles
The electric grid will not collapse. That's wrong.
Some changes to the electric grid will need to take place.
Emissions from electricity power plants vary from place to place and over time are becoming fossil free.
The lifetime emissions from ICE cars is significantly more than the emission from electric cars.
Geez I was under the impression that my car emits zero emissions, but joe bloe on the internet says they don't exist so I guess I got hoodwinked. Fuck
@@AWildBard well, at least you’ve confirmed that you know nothing about our electrical transmission system
I would rather invest/ pay taxes into better public transportation.
Thank you.
Agreed! That would actually help everyone instead of just the people wealthy enough to afford electric vehicles.
People typically charge their EVs overnight, when demand for electricity is at its lowest. No one is charging their cars from 4-9pm anyway, so it's a giant non-issue.
Uber drivers...
"All New Cars"
Most people dont buy new cars.
And Gas cars cost more than you think.
You cant roll a gas car off a lot for less than 22k new right now. and thats a Kia Sorento that barely drives down the road.
And the cost will come downa s more are made. Thats how economy of scale works.
Range issues, particuloarly with DCFC, are basically a non-issue. There are already cars with 400+ miles.
When you top on a long road trip to gas up, you're already spending 10+ minutes at the gas station. Spending 15 minutes to DCFC instead isnt going to be a deal-breaker.
And.. do i think California will upgrade their grid?
No. Because they are allowed to be a private company.
Would they if they were forced to?
Yes.
Maybe educate yourself on the basics of a topic, Ana.
I bought an EV in January (Chevy Bolt). Ive used public charging infrastructure precisely once.
Once. Ive already put 5000 miles on it.
I live in an area where there basically is none (SE MI).
For the first two months, we charged off the 110V wall plug. (Took about that long for the Electrician to get us the free 240V plug that GM pays for).
Still worked out fine.
Most people arent doing 400 miles a day.
"Its gonna be an issue" - almost every EV currently made qualified for the full benefit yesterday. So lolwhut?
Please, do the basic minimum research. This entire piece was stupid.
So you are saying the private, profit driven power companies are not going to invest anything to triple their profits when the demand for their product is guaranteed? That would be throwing away money first of all. Secondly they are granted Monopoly status in exchange for being regulated by the state PUC agency. The PUC will require them to meet demand.
I live in an apartment where I do not have a parking spot. Please explain how I should just pretend that a lack of public charging stations in the remote areas where my construction site jobsites tend to be is fine and dandy.
You have to start with a goal. Technology evolves exponentially..
I think there will be other market forces that help with this transition. Tesla already has plans to make less expensive cars with new battery chemistries, and I’m guessing other carmakers will, too. I haven’t seen how much it’d take to upgrade the grid, but it doesn’t seem that insurmountable. I don’t see the Newsom request for no charging from 4-9 as any kind of gotcha, you just charge your car after the sun goes down. Doesn’t seem like a big deal at all. My guess is: we’re moving towards a situation where people won’t want ICE cars anymore, and then it won’t take much for people to make the switch voluntarily.
Billions of foreign investments and US investments are pouring into America due to (Ana, listen) I.R.A. Inflation Reduction Act. Read about the billions being invested IN America. Note the foreign comp adding 10,000 high speed EV chargers.
its too hard to stop the pollution of our planet, lets do nothing about it instead.??
but im a disabled vet on a fixed income that is not taxable. so a 7500 tax credit is $0.00 for me.
nobody is coming for your car. This is panic-mongering
@martymar1964 i want an electric car. Just seems that i will never be able to get one.
First, these are goals. I don't think penalties have been defined yet.
Second, there is a lot of research and product development happening right now.
In 10 years, it is very likely that EV's will be cheaper than gas cars to both purchase and operate.
Note: EV's are already cheaper to operate.
This was very eye opening. Thank you. This is why I'm an independent. What are they thinking!! So frustrating. These prices are crazy. And lack of competition, well we all know that never ends well.
I just went to the auto show in NYC. The car I looked at was a Hyundai Ionic 6. That floor model of that car was $52,000. Who wants to make more debt and have a loan for a car over rent? I'll wait!
4:09 You speak, Ana, as though there is a CHOICE! OUR PLANET IS TELLING US THAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL PERIOD! Rather than reporting on how difficult it will make our lives (better off dead? - which we will be if, or when, the planet ejects us through the damage we bring to her), we (you) could focus on how to make it work. 2035 IS a long way off in terms of changes in technology. If we can rocket to the moon, why can we NOT provide adequate electricity for all our needs?
So with the rising inflation and wages not going up, how are Americans supposed to afford these? In addition, these electric cars I see on the road was charged with electricity from a coal power plant. Environmentally friendly? Does anyone ever consider where the electricity comes from?
Why would the government provide financial assistance to its citizens (taxpayers) when it can just provide that assistance to Ukraine, Israel, and the other countries that don’t pay our tax bills?
How about we eliminate the oil and gas subsidies and also eliminate tax credits for private jets and yachts? How about we audit the Defense Department to eliminate waste and graft? How about we repeal the tax cuts for the wealthy? How about we start treating white-collar crime like violent crime? How bout we start treating these neo-nazi gangs like the terrorists they are and let the military handle them?
I am sorry but this is ridiculous. Sometimes I truly wonder about this country and its leadership. Its completely illogical. And not all of us can just deal with the driving range. My career, my business relies on transportation. it is NOT logical!
That's because the expectation of the entire thing is to extract infinite profit from finite resources, on a finite planet, from finite numbers of workers, exchanged for dwindling pay, forever. Infinite profit is not logical. Expecting eternal exponential growth for a small group doing none of the work while the majority who do the work get next to nothing is not logical.
They're contradictions built into capitalism itself. That's why it _all_ sounds insane.
Stop the wars. That would drastically help the environment
The solution is not more personal vehicles of any kind. What is needed is more public transportations like subway trains, cable cars, busses, etc. I live in a rather small town in Europe compared to most cities in the US. But I can get around without a problem just using public transportation. And in a well designed mass transit system you never have to wait more then 10 minutes for a ride. But If you visit Paris or London you will see that public transportation works well in a mega city too.
So your solution to lack of infrastrucure investment is.... much larger investment in building infrastrucure.
Not that I disagree.... just... let's be real... it won't happen. Specially since nobody brives... I mean lobbies... for building trains
@@AlejandroMonteagudo No. It's not that large investment when you compare it to everything else. But yes US have to kill the myth about freedom on the open road that every car commercial has pushed sense the 50's. But you are right... most of the things that can actually make things better will never happen. Mostly because people don't believe you can change things.
@@bakenbeans420 You can find public transportation in the heart of the African jungle even.
Most Americans don't make enough to get a new car that's ridiculous
Ana, you are starting to wake up. Keep asking intelligent questions!
$20,000 is almost my entire yearly income after taxes. People in the Midwest sure as hell aren't going to be able to afford these vehicles.
They could of BigOil didn't corrupt the auto market
I’m in Texas and have 2. Both Bolts.
People here in Texas aren't even buying them. What funny, is the budget been release, no funds for charging stations.
Hell, I can’t afford a regular car, much less than an electric. As much as I love your broadcasts, I may have to quit watching them because I find myself getting so depressed over nothing changing. You’re a wonderful group of broadcasters and journalist but mentally it’s all too much not just for me but for many Americans.
Ah, yes there is much wrong with the world. May I suggest a news vacation, your mental health will thank you.
@@suen5006 I think I will do that. Thank you.
Don't let Ana's bitter complaining get u down. She's wrong! She even parroted rt wing talking points about Calif. They DIDN'T pass laws or rules saying not to use electricity! During an extreme heatwave they asked if people would consider charging veficles in off peak hours! Meanwhile Texas had hundreds freeze to death in their deep red, anti renewables state. Then they lied n tried blaming frozen windmills.
ana farted at 8:00 "would not qualify for the full $7500 tax credit"
Lol oh shit
I don't recall the last time I've ever agreed with TYT... but this sounds incredibly Republican of Ana. It's not a red pill, but a purple pill is still better than a blue one.
Ana getting mad at Democrats is my Spirit Animal
Give me public transportation 😤🤬
It's a great dream. Meanwhile large trucks and SUVs are selling in upwards of $80,000 no problem in our economy. Gas options aren't going away anytime soon. Meanwhile middle class gets sucked into monster car loans...
No way I can buy a new car. Most of us shouldn't be. Used cars all the way.
Anna is right, let's do nothing. Problem solved. 😮💨
And so Ana what is the right wing's proposal for climate change?
No such thing. They deny it is happening
What we need people to exercise is nuance. This isn't about right vs left it's about the establishment not having people's best interest in mind.
@@nicolespruitt675 characterizing this proposal as a confiscatory measure is not nuanced, it's fear-mongering.
Anna you are telling the truth, everyone should see it.
What's your solution to climate change then?
How does Ana think electric vehicle prices came down in the last 4 years? Magic?
Do you not understand the specifics she laid out: tax incentives being limited to American corporations who have no actual incentive to drop prices if they have a Captive market
Once you force people to buy a product, I as a producer of that product can jack up the price all I want, after all, per the Government you HAVE to buy the product. The same happened with "health care": we were told that by forcing everybody to buy health insurance, costs will go down, but that has not happened.
Newsom did NOT say "don't recharge your e-cars". He is asking to not do it during peak use hours. Simple. Easy.
This is yet another way for car manufacturers to make more money and to spend billions of dollars of taxpayer money on cars and car infrastructure, making those companies even richer. I am baffled as to why TYT never addresses the issue of how our cities are literally designed so people NEED to buy a car to move around and on how we can make our cities more walkable with efficient public transportation. You want to reduce pollution? Electric cars are just a tiny portion of that answer as they still consume plenty of non-renewable resources to make and need tons of concrete to drive on. Making cities walkable and have efficient public transportation would help solve both our climate change issue as well as our dependency on cars and having to pay a quarter of a paycheck just to be part of society. This should be common sense just like universal healthcare, as most of the developed counties have or are working towards walkable cities with efficient public transportation, but TYT never addresses this, sad really.
If the billionaires want it, they can help us pay for it all.
They should help pay anyway. I do not care what they want.
They shouldn't even exist.
The reality is some of them are the ones that own fossil fuel companies and extreme right wing think tank and propaganda machines that are fueling anti climate change propaganda. Some of the billionaires recognize climate change is real and propose really stupid and unrealistic solutions like carbon capture. Other billionaires only care about their money and are building shelters because they think the world is going to collapse but they will somehow survive because they are super rich. Some billionaires take climate change seriously and are actively trying to solve the issues as fast as possible.
Our government mainly does the bidding of the billionaires who do not agree at all about what to do. Which explains the weak and schizophrenic approach to the very serious problem.
Hopefully the majority of voters will recognize billionaires won't save us before there is a fascist takeover.
I think instead of calling them just establishment Democrats, we should also call them Reagan Democrats
You'd have to buy a $90,000 car in order to get the full benefit of the $7,500 tax credit.
I just bought an electric car for less then 10k after rebates , what are you smoking
@@chriswill9473 sure, show us the paperwork with the make and model of the vehicle. should be easy enough, put it on youtube so the rest of us can get one to.
@@chriswill9473
1. You will get the tax credit Next Year
2. You only get a benefit up to the amount of Taxes you pay for the car, SO...
in order to get the full benefit on only the qualified vehicles, you would to pay $7,500 in taxes on the car.
Anything else you and Biden are spouting are lies.
While I agree with her, the matter of fact is that EVs will continue to drop in price over time, we are still in the early days. Silicon batteries are around the corner and further commoditization of EVs will bring the car prices down. I'm glad she is using more data points for her critical thinking; she is just missing some more inputs. I think that once we are much closer to crossing that bridge, we can properly assess what needs to be done to make it affordable enough. In the mean time we need to make sure our electric grid is good to go, that is definitely something that requires more immediate attention because changes and improvements take time.
too bad the poor and middle class are about to get screwed.
@@jmjfanss why? Keep repeating...nobody is forced to buy a new EV car in 10 or 12 years. Used gas cars will be around for years if u want to pay for gasoline. Public transportation is a cheap alternative. Even many buses are goin electric. Plus, billions of new investments in EV and wind n solar will mean many good paying jobs, here, in America.
@@larryforbes6718 your dead wrong.
@@jmjfanss which part? Lol
@@larryforbes6718because gas will be charged at much more of a price like in Europe
Oh, Ana. I love so much of what she does on TYT. This is not one of them. So much of what she says is typical (often right-wing) anti-EV talking points. I don’t disagree with everything she is saying but so much is so dishonest, I had to say something. First of all, I do agree that banning ICE vehicles by date (X) is a very bad idea. This should be determined by the market/consumer. It actually sounds incredibly unAmerican. The potential is there for EV’s, why force it? Of course I agree that we should be doing more to help consumers be able to afford EVs, but in our current political climate, this is as good as it can be for the time being. I’m particularly disappointed with how she tries to frame this as an issue that the ordinary consumer will bear. Using the flawed articles from Axios and Politico emphasising consumers being “compelled”, or forced, to buy EV’s is done in such an intellectually dishonest way, I expect more, and better, from Ana and TYT. Consumers will NOT be “forced” to buy EVs. If you don’t want to take on additional debt, now or in 2032, then don’t. Buy a little, used Honda, even with ICE Powertrain. But don’t present this in a way that is either ignorant of the facts or simply dishonest. Also, saying that electric cars are dependent on Chinese manufacturers and tech companies for parts and batteries is not true. Tesla’s strong vertical integration in the states says it all. More legislation, and the IRA, is meant to encourage the use of domestic parts, or products/materials from “friendly” countries. The only real dependence on China is from rare earth metals and lithium. This is being addressed by batteries with new chemistries that do not depend on these materials. This is also being addressed with N. American mines and processing facilities that will be coming on-line over the next decade and billions of dollars in battery cell and microchip manufacturing facilities that will further expand domestic production and would not be happening otherwise. This will also be a massive jobs creator. This legislation fell far, far, short of what is needed and what I expected but it will at least provide a starting point. Her entire argument is so deeply flawed that all I can say is that perhaps she needs to “read a book”, perhaps one that has more facts on the subject. No one is suggesting that the average American consumer should be expected to buy EVs, especially during the early adoption period. Average ICE cars cost about $50k while average EVs cost about $60k. And EVs costs are falling and projected to cost about the same, perhaps even less than ICE cars in the next decade as more models from more manufacturers are introduced. And if you are in the market for a new car and want an EV, you can get at least a little help from the IRA. Many states also have incentive programs that will further aid an EV purchase. The charging infrastructure is also growing incredibly quickly. Tesla charging stations are rapidly growing and their chargers are constantly being upgraded. Other companies are also rapidly expanding their stations and developing their chargers. There are many reasons to be optimistic about EVs and their charging infrastructure. The Scandinavian countries have hit a tipping point very quickly where most new car buyers are not even interested in ICE cars anymore and new and especially used ICE cars are not selling. I think that this will happen in the states within a few years. I have friends and relatives in Danmark who have recently purchased a Tesla and EVs from other manufacturers. We have recently purchased a Tesla 3LR in SoCal. We have also found that the issues of range and insufficient charging infrastructure have been greatly exaggerated. Most driving is done well within the car’s range and charging has been exclusively at home every 2-3 days or longer. I charged once at Tesla Supercharger in the Laguna/Irvine area only because I had not done it before. I can also report that, contrary to some, the fuel savings has been significant, further reducing costs. I am so deeply disappointed with this segment because Ana uses legitimate gripes with false information, like range issues and poor infrastructure. Than further insinuating that not agreeing with her position somehow shows that we are incapable of nuanced thinking and suggesting that we just need to “read a book”. I do wish that things were different and better in the states concerning the EV transition and the response to the climate crisis. But her take on the EV situation is from deeply flawed and pessimistic to just untrue. Maybe before she covers this topic again she should employ some basic critical thinking skills and consider broader research criteria before just looking to justify her own personal narrative.
Three comments and one solution:
Mandates apply to manufacturers. The consumer is not obligated to buy a new car.
As such, the immediate financial burden to consumers due to this act is not the price of a new EV but the difference in price between an EV and the equivalent ICE car.
Anna also does not factor in the vastly reduced operating cost of an EV so that in the long run, EVs are typically cheaper to operate.
So given this, the solution would be to offer a very low or zero interest loan to offset the higher initial purchase price of an EV. The payments for that loan would be such that they are covered by the lower operating costs of the EV.
Glad you finally caught on to this, in the UK and around Europe people are fed up being left to foot the bill for all these new laws, it effects the poorest in society, not the politicians making the laws or the celebrities endorsing them, we have windfarms everywhere but our energy prices are out of control, they charge around 50 pence per plastic bag, so if you have a family who do not drive as a lot of people dont in Europe due to public transport and things being fairly local, then that family has to spend 2 to 3 pounds just on plastic bags to carry their shopping, this might not sound much but for a family struggling to survive that could be a meal on their plate, our bins get emptied less frequently so we have to recycle, which i was happily doing, then found out everything goes to the same rubbish tip and very little is actually being recycled, they have now implemented charges of between 15 and 20 pounds for a car to drive into town, even taxis, they say use public transport which use to be really good but they have now closed have the lanes on roads for cyclists, which is great if you live in a warm country, but we are in the UK, it rains all the time, the bike lanes are empty which traffic is pilling up on the only available lane, yes that's great for the environment. This may seem smaller than what Ana is talking about, but believe me all this will come next, just ban the private jets, imagine what tha twould do.
Or they could take their own reusable bags to grocery store every time they go shopping like I do ... I don't disagree with private jets though, it's ridiculous and agree mostly with the rest of your criticisms.
Ban private rockets aswell, Bezos and Musk wasting millions trying to get to mars which might be habitable in a few centuries of terraforming (when that tech exists) when we are facing extinction here. Rocket fuel is orders of magnatudes worse than jet fuel every launch is like a small scale ecological disaster.
Ana, electric vehicles are not better for the enviornment becuase, they take 5 xs more energy to mfg, they don't last as long, and they don't have the range. The batteries, once spent only last 10 or 15 years. Then they become toxic waste. Where does the electricty come from, fossil fuels, nuclear, the sun? Plus, our National electric grid is outdated and unable to support our needs right now. But I agree, EVs are too exspensive and at least I can repair my 20 year old truck myself!
No more cars. Invest in public transit. I'm so tired.
SILLY LEFTIST FOOL
Holy crap!!! Ana just killing it!!!
No. Wrong
You may not agree with her but are you really going to pretend that the news clip she showed doesnt matter? The clip in which the state was reportedly telling people not to charge their cars during prime time? That's insane that everyone seems to gloss over that as if that's not an alarming issue. She's right. If problems like that haven't already been fixed why would you commit your state to make such a dramatic transition in such a short period of time when glaring issues like that are staring you in the face? But God forbid anyone asks valid questions. Then we get a lecture about climate change. 🙄 as if we don't care about the environment. It's the same as Republicans claiming others hate their country just because they question some of America's traditions and practices.
The state ASKED residents to conserve power during a heatwave that nicked out some electricity, one of those ways is to not charge at the busiest time. That’s it. That’s what your complaint about ?? Reactionary as hell