1965: WHINGING POMS Go Down Under | Tonight | Weird and Wonderful | BBC Archive
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- For some newly-arrived English immigrants, Australia is many things - too hot, too expensive, too “outdoors” - but not the utopia they’d hoped for.
And the Australian press has had some scathing words for these “whinging poms”, who seem unlikely to make a go of it.
So Trevor Philpott dons his Factor 50 and heads out to ask the fresh arrivals about the pros and cons of this new life in a new land, and whether they might stay.
Excerpt taken from Tonight, originally broadcast on BBC One, Friday 5 March, 1965.
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Hope the Motherwell family did well...very positive and proactive mum and dad!
The Scots always integrate well in Australia. So many left from the 1960s/70s to avoid mass unemployment back home.
After Motherwell, fly-bitten Australia must seem like heaven!
@davidcarrol110 Without the Scottish migrants there would be no AC DC. The Young brothers and Bon Scott 😀
@@memofromessexlol😂
Thank god for 10 pound poms😂@@Gutenmorgenside
Never understood the term, especially when Aussies would walk the title of 'whingers' if whinging was an Olympic event.
Most bigoted b'stards anywhere.
some of those complaining in this footage remind me of that classic scene in Auf Wiedersen Pet, when Vicky, seated at a fabulous cafe, in glorious sunshine, overlooking Marbella harbour, and being told she may have to stay there permanently, wails "Id die if i thought i wasn't gunna see Newcastle again"
Vicky was the best thing about the second series of Auf Wiedersen Pet.
@@76ToneCrome she was indeed. Another classic line from her was when she was informed by Kenny Ames that he was trying to maintain the Status Quo among the criminal fraternity in Marbella, she replied and i am laughing now as i type this. "Howay, they dont live out here as well, do they".
@@williammohan9784 I liked the episodes set at Thornley Manor as well.
@@76ToneCrome I have to say i am a huge fan of the first two series and thought it right up there of all the comedy dramas produced on telly. I went off the new series as the BBC decided to use the dead hand of wokism to destroy the essential laddish humour of the series/
@@williammohan9784yea great writing ,fantastic series the first 2 ,never get old😂❤
There is absolutely a TV series or film to be made from this.
A documentary called Ten Pound Poms was made some years ago. I don't know if it is available but worth looking for.
A TV series came out a couple of months ago about this
And this led toba 'hole' in the UK employment market thus the influx of the Commenwealth community & then open borders to feed the whole world paid for by White 'privileged' TAX Payers.
£3/week mortgage on a £24/week income? They're only paying 1/8 of their wage to mortgage? 3x cheaper than now, although I don't know what the term length is to see if it's even cheaper, if they're on a 10 year then they're paying 7.5x less
Mortgage rate in Australia in 1965 was 5.13% early in the year, rising to 5.38% by the end. CPI was 3.8%. 24 quid in 1965 is about $770 today, inflation adjusted.
We came to Australia in 1963 we stayed in wacol hostel in brisbane, Mum couldn't get used to the communal bathrooms, some of the women were downright fithy emptying kid's napkins in the laundry sink, Dad found a house for us in indooroopilly, he had to pay six month's rent in advance because we were migrants, then he found a job in mackay, so we moved there, and had to rent another house, the real estate agent in indooroopilly rented out the house there but kept all the money, it was tough, but eventually after working 7 days a week for years , dad started his own business, looking back Mum and Dad did the right thing comming to Australia.
My cousin emigrated but I don't think he was on any kind of scheme. He was a bit flummoxed that he had to get qualifications in his trade to be accepted (even though he felt he was more than capable). And life was difficult for many years. But he's still there, still married and he's now living the dream. I don't doubt many in this reel felt they were sold a pup, to an extent. But if you move to other side of the world, you should probably do a bit of homework and be prepared to stick it out for a few years.
At the time in the 50'60's probably not as easy to get up to date info unless you could speak/contact to someone who had emigrated a few years before perhaps.
That commission house in Sydney is now worth $2million ;) so probably worth sticking it out …….
Australian born and raised, as were my forebears going back 200 years, but I wouldn’t fancy living in a Nissen hut either.
The dishonesty of the tales which were spun to immigrants before they left the UK was disgraceful. And the accommodation was dire. They had fair complaints. Thank you for the video!
this isn't what people mean about whinging poms
You are right.. The whinging bit is about everyday life not moaning (rightly sometime) about expectations given and the reality of re-location. I'm a Pom who moved to NZ in 1992...I do whinge but my whinges are the same as the Kiwis do. By the way NZ is now a brilliant place to emigrate to.....(was a bit dead in 92...no pubs at all where I lived...WHINGE!)
There's a Bill Hicks joke about Australia being a penal colony.
Everything is trying to kill you apart from the people.
Bill hicks was so funny and smart ,gone way to soon 🙏
How can you tell when a plane load of British migrants have landed???...
You can hear the whining even when the engines are shut down...
Then the bulk of them stayed and went on to be very happy people...
They just had to work like the rest of us...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A culture shock. All that light and space.
The thing they missed out here, quite a big thing really if you think about it.
P.O.H.M's are the Australians themselves.
It stands for PRISONER OF HER MAJESTY.
The convicts that were sent to, and inhabit the island, are the P.O.H.M's. _Not_ the law abiding British people.
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it."
Jimmy Barnes grew up in these hostels
@kentallard8852 Jimmy Barnes..
Jimmy Barnes 🤔
Oh!
Oh, oh oh 💡
"He's a working class man."
From memory, if anyone remembers him, "little" Stevie Wright and his friends stayed at the hostels on arrival in Australia.
Regardless, The Easybeats literally made an art form out of whinging in the hit song, "Friday on my Mind."
Funny old world.
Marty I've got to tell you about the future
I would love to see how these people interviewed again and how it all worked out 60 years later.
Especially the price of the beach front property the last person was whinging about 🤑
@@Phuc_Yhou 😂😂 very good point!
Arrived in 1969, stayed for two weeks in East Perth Salvation Army hostel.
Got work strait away 6 days a week, after 12 months I was well off being paid more than 3 x times my wage in England. Did a return trip on one of the first 747 jumbos to see my mum.then back to Sydney best city in the World..
I think the women always found it harder than the men.
My parents went in late '63, got jobs in Sydney for nearly twice as much, and rented a flat in Lewisham before moving out to Penrith and raising me and my sister. Moved back to England in '77, but never moaned about Australia and won't have a bad word said about it.
Yes the biggest problem was divided families. From the early seventies the cheap air fares changed all that, 24 hours flying back to UK. I have done it many times over.
Some of my family were '£10 Poms' and went to some dustbowl mining town back in fifties, they paid the return back to Blighty.
This is an excellent troll as the poor old poms always take the bait, thus proving the initial contention. 🎣🎣
Been lucky enough to live and work in a few different countries and this reminded me of many of my fellow ex-pat Brits - not prepared to put in the effort to get the best out of it and simply failed to appreciate how lucky they were.
Since watching this informative clip I've decided not to emigrate there. The place is not even in colour.
The money sounds crap too. I'm staying put
My youngest son once asked what the world was like when it was black and white.
hahaha
I remember Clive James telling a joke about the Poms in Australia:
A bus had crashed killing all inside and only the driver lived to tell the tale. A friend asked him, "Bill, why are you crying...I thought you hated the whinging Poms?" To which the driver replied : "There were 3 empty seats"
2nd bloke nailed it.
The Bee Gees did well from deportation.
So did the AC/DC.
@@jeshkamGlasgow East end to Sydney. Not far from Motherwell.
These cramped living spaces are now the norm here in the UK - except the rents are sky-high and you're living in an 'apartment' at a premium. Instead of a communal dining hall you're expected to 'eat out' at a restaurant......if you can afford it of course 😉
They were called whinging poms here in Aotearoa/ New Zealand as well and sometimes known as 10 pound poms because of the immigration scheme some arrived under. Many were seen as rude, ungrateful, arrogant snobs who felt they were better than us purely by dint of being white and/or having been born in the UK a couple of generations later than other Pākehā. They had a reputation for never being satisfied and they complained about the climate, wages, culture and unfavourably compared absolutely every single thing they encountered to "home". It didn't help that despite having left the UK BECAUSE they were broke and/or jobless, many seemed to feel entitled to some sort of preferential treatment, which was exactly the sort of attitude that many of our ancestors had emigrated to leave behind. When l was growing up the joke was: What's the difference between a pom and a 747?
A 747 stops whining after it lands.
Now THAT'S whinging you fool.
Typical colonial attitude these limeys bring with them when they invade their "colonies". An aura of superiority and entitlement.
Your entire post is one massive whinge.
Some of the biggest whingers I ever met were Australian. And I was born there. Townsville
2nd person spot on
Its parody ...
Wow beach at the end of the road, get down there feel the wind rushing through you, see the waves roaring, , watch the sun set over the ocean. Bliss. It is for me at least after 40years of grim london now i have the same view as that lady at the bottom of the road and im a little happier about it! But different times i guess!
My friend returned. He hated the racism of which the whinging poms thing is just a variant.
I met quite a lot of poms back in th day, most of them were ok but now and again I would run into one and my god the wingeing and moaning was unbearable sometimes similar to a lot of comments here
Served them right.
I guess the native Australian population used to moan about the whinging convicts 😅😅
Aussie's now call England "pomganistan" .
What does this mean?
Racist
With humour.
I’m afraid it’s coming their way too.
No one has said that ever
You don’t have to worry they still hate us
I’ve been in Australia all my life,was born here. I definitely think that Aussies whinge more.
My wife, myself and our 10 month old son migrated to Australia in 1988. Even though we'd been given residency, we only intended to stay for one year. Of course, there are things we missed, but Australia has such a mass of opportunities and beautiful places, we stayed and have been here the whole time (36 years). We had another son born here, and now we have a granddaughter. Australia is 100% our home and if it were attacked, I would put my life on the line to save it. Do I still feel some attachment to England? Yes, of course but I think of myself as Australian now, not English. I don't have any particular desire to visit England. It used to be a lovely, genteel place but, sadly, it's been ruined by "you know what" and, on the times I have been back, I no longer feel like it's a place worth preserving. However, Australia certainly *is* a place worth preserving. To those who haven't yet been here, there's something for everyone... Old, young, tough, gentle, tall, short, fat, thin, cultured, or rough, Australia has it all. Come over and see this loveliest of all countries. You will not regret your trip.
You’re welcome to your desert…
BBC Archive loves to post videos that have anti British vibes...
Self-reflective 🪞
Are there any uplifting and good ones??
@SlimjimMK11 plenty. Lots of fun and wacky ones too. Im no fan of BBC News but this is a great channel.
@@eemoogee160
I love the old stuff like this..
Because I am old and this is how it really was...
NFSA FILMS have similar stuff on Australia..
Worth a watch..
Live well friend..
rightly so. what a shithole country.