Brad now that every class has better invis than rogue (knowledge req for invis pots) you should make a video series where you just use landmine builds on other classes with invis pots. it would be quite funny to have a bunch of non rogue classes blowing up people out of stealth now that rogues can't really do it.
Honestly dude at this point we're getting everything stripped away that makes a Rogue a rogue. Like taking magic away from Wizard. The fact that fighters have full dmg now and clerics and warlocks are running wild shows the bias
Brain dead people will complain about rogues kiting but you’ve got full plate fighters with bows who will just kill you with arrows if you try to kite.
@@TheCgio5 the issue is that when rogue is a top performing class w hide + creep it drops the player base significantly and theres very minimal counterplay to hide + creep how it was before unless u played wiz/lock. it happend before and the samething happend they release an emergency patch to do quick nerf then come in a week later or so with proper work arounds. i agree the changes were a bit too much but it needed to happen for the health of the game, the class still performs decent w hide/ambush just gotta be more patient and that really says something about how strong it was before.
Honestly rogue is one of the weakest classes and he needs stealth to be viable and people get mad that he uses stealth… like duh if you just pay attention to your surroundings landmine rogue doesn’t exist. Meanwhile you have a Druid that can jump through doors and fly across the map with bear forms that hit over 200 per hit but yeah let’s nerf the rogue that does 65-70 damage on a good day
I have no idea how Druid made it past play testing honestly.. I have no problem with any of the spells.. but being able to change your entire hit box into a tiny mouse or a knee slapping panther is cringe.. devs are dumb..
ima bo honest im enjoying rogue more than ever right now, jokester and poisioned weapon. the throwing knife meta is back. im clapping people like crazy but yea most juiced fighters and juiced copper 330 move speed barbs i just beg for mercy and run
Like why did they do it this way to nerf landmine, i rather them just take ambush completely away like what these nerfs get rid of the main part of our class and now pickpocketing is literally impossible
Like you can't nerf both, its just flawed balance philo, even tho I think the changes are good you need to keep elements of the class or just rework it entirely
@@bradquackson our double jump got nerfed, pickpocket is now useless, caltrops use to be good now they useless. They nerfing all the wrong things and need to nerf just ambush
this logic fucking applies to literally every class though???? druid turning into a rat, warlocks perma blocking doorways, clerics insta killing you with smite, rangers kiting with bows, like?
"The guy with a crystal ball sprinting at me like a robot" that is exactly who wanted rogue nerfed. All the cry babies being like "boohoo i wont play DaD again til landmine is removed and rogues dont exist" brother, open a door and use your damn brain. Lights off, ads cleared? Lets use some common sense, could that mean that somebody MIGHT have killed the stuff? Maybe? And could they POSSIBLY be in the dark area in the room that youre about to braindead run into like your last meal is in it? Maaaaybe. Common sense is so rare and then we get punished because other people lack it. Insane comms.
Let me add, devs are soft as hell for this nerf, and it's gonna make a really awkward relationship between DaD and Dungeonborne if they're just gonna blend their games into the same exact experience. 🙄 L
i mean i dont even think this nerf stopped landmine, also there are still people just sitting in commonly trafficed areas that just sit in corners the nerf isnt gonna change landmine other that you cant be as mobile, not saying the game is balanced but being 3 tapped by something that makes no noise and is completely invisible was pretty frustrating. The nerfs don't do much because now you just have to do the same thing but in a less area. A smart rogue also wouldnt turn off unecessary lights and would try to clear ai in a way it cant be seen but alright man, damage wasnt nerfed just the unfun aspect of playing against a rogue but it didnt really change just running into barbs more. wish ironmace would make good changes instead of just whatever the "population" says
damn as a new f2p player about 10 hours in on rouge i was already struggling with pve the creep and hide only saved me form platers now that even that isnt the case i reainstalled hunt showdown xd maybe gonna delete the rouge and try with a barb or cleric .
I know you really want to play rogue. But play fighter and learn to parry. Or Cleric. Warlock is also good but a little harder than those i mentioned. Edit: rogue is miserable to play with no gear and as a new player. Trust me
He needed to get nerfed, it was the most braindead way to play the game. The only counter to it was to play another broken class like barb. Rouge should just have a full rework where he can actually actively be useful and not play like a pussy. Sneaking around and getting a kill on someone 10x your gear score is just dumb. But knowing the devs, what they will do is keep rouge kinda useless now and keep buffing cleric and barb as they always have.
Does it really tho? Whole point of a channels gameplay is their original commentary. I bet you grew up in a culture where you were told to shut up for expressing yourself
The pure racism towards rogues is disgusting. We are supposed to be a tight community but everyone hates on rogues? Everyone I talk to online says the class should be removed from the game. Like fuck you guys, I’d fight for your class but you won’t do the same
land mine rogue is still a thing, i dont know how they are mnanaging it but i got land mine rogue like twice yesterday. not every class gets that type of armor pen and dmg bonus after hiding so its not every class can do this. the mobility makes it dangerous. #not fun. get rid of invis, entirely. Toxic game play. Brad here is way more mobile than the average Rat rogue, so sorry im here complainin but its not a healthy game style for either player, rogue just ambush 3 stab what ever walks by. so most just sit in a corner the entire match and fish basically. ive seen someone sit in there spawn for the entire game to throw me off. Pretty sure thats not the gamplay iron mace intended.
landmine rogue is gone but you still have full invis+silent footsteps+insane dmg against any class in the entire game? also please remove invis pots from the game
Bro really said "landmine rogue is gone" and "you still have invis+silent footsteps" in the same sentence , the IQ of the average internet user is dropping by the second.
Rogues landmine is unhealthy for the game. The nerfs should be targeting the problem perks like ambush. Also i think rogues are way scummier than druids lol
@@alphawolfgaming5682 you're right landmine 100% can be avoided if you play wizard/warlock or swing every corner every door open or bait out every door from invis and hope you dont have gigachad waiting for you behind doors that you dont take a minute to check for, the nerfs didnt do anything for this really because ppl will just stand still now but yeah youre right as long as i take 10 minutes to clear 5 1/2 rooms to make sure im 100% safe from landmine rogue i will avoid it completely. the class still has its dumb damage for what it is and im not saying other classes arent just as stupid but from a game that wants to have longer fights getting 3 tapped in 2 seconds doesnt seem like a long fight nor game sense but alright
@Spotless_Yt and yet again I agree high end the TTK is basically nonexistent for most classes, SDF insists it stays that way where Terence wants it slower, I want the game to be balanced and fun as well, thats why all damage should be knocked down across the board
lol, as opposed to "stare at the ground simulator" or hope any class forgot how invis pots work, or better yet, just fucking sitting in the dark as barb lmaoooooo
"You can still sit in a corner", so can literally every other class lol.
Brad now that every class has better invis than rogue (knowledge req for invis pots) you should make a video series where you just use landmine builds on other classes with invis pots. it would be quite funny to have a bunch of non rogue classes blowing up people out of stealth now that rogues can't really do it.
BRO IVE BEEN SAYING THIS 😭😭😭😂😂😂 Barbs are the best rogue rn. Two tap???? Out of invis??? Unbeatable landmine.
W outro btw
Mayn ot work a lot because you can hear someone drink a pot
fucking noobs
I gotchu tomorrow
Honestly dude at this point we're getting everything stripped away that makes a Rogue a rogue. Like taking magic away from Wizard. The fact that fighters have full dmg now and clerics and warlocks are running wild shows the bias
Brain dead people will complain about rogues kiting but you’ve got full plate fighters with bows who will just kill you with arrows if you try to kite.
@@TheCgio5 the issue is that when rogue is a top performing class w hide + creep it drops the player base significantly and theres very minimal counterplay to hide + creep how it was before unless u played wiz/lock. it happend before and the samething happend they release an emergency patch to do quick nerf then come in a week later or so with proper work arounds.
i agree the changes were a bit too much but it needed to happen for the health of the game, the class still performs decent w hide/ambush just gotta be more patient and that really says something about how strong it was before.
Honestly rogue is one of the weakest classes and he needs stealth to be viable and people get mad that he uses stealth… like duh if you just pay attention to your surroundings landmine rogue doesn’t exist. Meanwhile you have a Druid that can jump through doors and fly across the map with bear forms that hit over 200 per hit but yeah let’s nerf the rogue that does 65-70 damage on a good day
rogue needed a nerf it did not need to be completely crippled
That Druid complaining about landmine rogue. Bros playing a nuclear class…
fr druid is just completely invincible against rogues. instant activation phantomize + deleting your hitbox after the fact LMAOOOO
I have no idea how Druid made it past play testing honestly.. I have no problem with any of the spells.. but being able to change your entire hit box into a tiny mouse or a knee slapping panther is cringe.. devs are dumb..
the insta changing forms is terrible
I think the repoze video sums up the rogue nerfs perfectly
ima bo honest im enjoying rogue more than ever right now, jokester and poisioned weapon. the throwing knife meta is back. im clapping people like crazy but yea most juiced fighters and juiced copper 330 move speed barbs i just beg for mercy and run
Like why did they do it this way to nerf landmine, i rather them just take ambush completely away like what these nerfs get rid of the main part of our class and now pickpocketing is literally impossible
Like you can't nerf both, its just flawed balance philo, even tho I think the changes are good you need to keep elements of the class or just rework it entirely
@@bradquackson our double jump got nerfed, pickpocket is now useless, caltrops use to be good now they useless. They nerfing all the wrong things and need to nerf just ambush
@SYIdotCCwtf are u on about this is utter garbage
landmine rogue was fun especially for the rogue player, not so much for anyone else
this logic fucking applies to literally every class though???? druid turning into a rat, warlocks perma blocking doorways, clerics insta killing you with smite, rangers kiting with bows, like?
Landmine still alive and kicking, we're just not taking ten steps anymore🤷♂️
creep makes sounds
@@BobInGreek I'm aware. Don't need creep.
now they nerfed the cutthroat even more
"The guy with a crystal ball sprinting at me like a robot" that is exactly who wanted rogue nerfed. All the cry babies being like "boohoo i wont play DaD again til landmine is removed and rogues dont exist" brother, open a door and use your damn brain. Lights off, ads cleared? Lets use some common sense, could that mean that somebody MIGHT have killed the stuff? Maybe? And could they POSSIBLY be in the dark area in the room that youre about to braindead run into like your last meal is in it? Maaaaybe. Common sense is so rare and then we get punished because other people lack it. Insane comms.
Let me add, devs are soft as hell for this nerf, and it's gonna make a really awkward relationship between DaD and Dungeonborne if they're just gonna blend their games into the same exact experience. 🙄 L
cope is insane from this
i mean i dont even think this nerf stopped landmine, also there are still people just sitting in commonly trafficed areas that just sit in corners the nerf isnt gonna change landmine other that you cant be as mobile, not saying the game is balanced but being 3 tapped by something that makes no noise and is completely invisible was pretty frustrating. The nerfs don't do much because now you just have to do the same thing but in a less area. A smart rogue also wouldnt turn off unecessary lights and would try to clear ai in a way it cant be seen but alright man, damage wasnt nerfed just the unfun aspect of playing against a rogue but it didnt really change just running into barbs more. wish ironmace would make good changes instead of just whatever the "population" says
why my rogue right click doesn't work like yours?
Why the Ranger and the wizard can't get the same Nerfs that the road gets like come on these classes have been broken from the beginning
Can someone make a clip of what the silhouette looks like? I want to know how obvious it is since I can't see myself from a third person perspective
Its literally halo camo :p
its pretty bad but who cares ppl just gonna stand still now
its not exactly subtitle, and with creep being mostly useless now its entirely dead
what would be the fix, Mr.BradYapson
made a useless perk still useless, gutted most of rogues daggers, killed creep, crippled ambush, nerfed hide mastery. nope, nothing extreme there....
OMG FINALLY!!!! FIGHTER IS FINALLY VIABLE AGAIN. THANK YOU IRONHAMMER!!! NOW PLEASE NERF WEAKPOINT!!!1 THEN ROGUE WOULD BE PERFECT
damn as a new f2p player about 10 hours in on rouge i was already struggling with pve the creep and hide only saved me form platers now that even that isnt the case i reainstalled hunt showdown xd maybe gonna delete the rouge and try with a barb or cleric .
U rlly shouldn’t be playing rogue as ur first
I know you really want to play rogue. But play fighter and learn to parry. Or Cleric. Warlock is also good but a little harder than those i mentioned.
Edit: rogue is miserable to play with no gear and as a new player. Trust me
“I should leave but like something in my brain is telling me not to ya know”
I felt this 😅
not having thrust is criminal. creep bad
yea creep is worthless now that walking is the same shit as it lol
and i agree they do listen and make changes for the trash cans and redditors instead of skilled players
how's poison with true n additional magic dmg rn?
sucks with true it’s bis with add trust.
@@robinisrogue ?
@@robinisrogue complete opposite lmao
@@itzdrdabber2115 on rogue it’s way better but other classes yah true all da way
poison is noob bait
Well thats it for me! I only played pickpocketing but now i guess i go back to cs2 haha
Let one slip man be careful 12:33
2 wideos in under a day?
Yeah now you do it 😏🙏
13:23 legit LMFAO
why do ironmace hate rogue and love warlock
Because they care about the playerbase on some things
mic has a lot of background noise
my bad, its when I slouch from waiting for hours for a decent fight
All they had to do was nerf creep, but they listened to the whiners on Reddit and destroyed invisibility
They made this change last wipe and all it did was make landmine even better
fuck the landmines I just wanna play pickpocket and have fun !
He needed to get nerfed, it was the most braindead way to play the game. The only counter to it was to play another broken class like barb. Rouge should just have a full rework where he can actually actively be useful and not play like a pussy. Sneaking around and getting a kill on someone 10x your gear score is just dumb. But knowing the devs, what they will do is keep rouge kinda useless now and keep buffing cleric and barb as they always have.
If you can complain that barb is OP, you can complain that ANY class is... jfc
only crush
Hearing a grown man complain for 14 minutes really takes away from the enjoyment of the gameplay.
Its a nerf video, it will be filled with some salt
That sounds like a rogue hater comment if I’ve ever heard one.
Does it really tho? Whole point of a channels gameplay is their original commentary. I bet you grew up in a culture where you were told to shut up for expressing yourself
Brad the certified whiner
nerfing both creep and stealth shows just bad game balance, class needs reworked (this whiner got plenty of things changed)
The arrogance, you sound like toddfather
The pure racism towards rogues is disgusting. We are supposed to be a tight community but everyone hates on rogues? Everyone I talk to online says the class should be removed from the game. Like fuck you guys, I’d fight for your class but you won’t do the same
Druid class is re tar ever.
land mine rogue is still a thing, i dont know how they are mnanaging it but i got land mine rogue like twice yesterday. not every class gets that type of armor pen and dmg bonus after hiding so its not every class can do this. the mobility makes it dangerous. #not fun. get rid of invis, entirely. Toxic game play. Brad here is way more mobile than the average Rat rogue, so sorry im here complainin but its not a healthy game style for either player, rogue just ambush 3 stab what ever walks by. so most just sit in a corner the entire match and fish basically. ive seen someone sit in there spawn for the entire game to throw me off. Pretty sure thats not the gamplay iron mace intended.
me 1 shotting people out of invis as a fighter says otherwise but good try lol
creep is dead damn
frust?
i fwu heavy ong
I hear alot of crying about not getting your loot, try playing a wizard who needs to sit 2 minutes before you can fight another player...
i like your content bro but please stop complaining about everything even when you're winning
Toxic
i not play rouge but this sucks shimmer sucks
Why do you look like LowTierGod?
Explain
i already made an op build kmao
yeah cap
rogue malding 😭😭😭😭
crush worse than creep lol bias much
Fully invisibility should not be in the game period.
landmine rogue is gone but you still have full invis+silent footsteps+insane dmg against any class in the entire game? also please remove invis pots from the game
not silent, not full invis
Bro really said "landmine rogue is gone" and "you still have invis+silent footsteps" in the same sentence , the IQ of the average internet user is dropping by the second.
please read the patch notes again
unless they sneak nerfed them again :)
whatever cope helps you all function
Rogues landmine is unhealthy for the game. The nerfs should be targeting the problem perks like ambush. Also i think rogues are way scummier than druids lol
Worst take. Rogue landmine can be avoided with game sense, druid cannot be avoided whatsoever.
@@alphawolfgaming5682, maybe now with the change to creep. But druids are mid at kill pressure, especially after the consta nerfs.
@@alphawolfgaming5682 you're right landmine 100% can be avoided if you play wizard/warlock or swing every corner every door open or bait out every door from invis and hope you dont have gigachad waiting for you behind doors that you dont take a minute to check for, the nerfs didnt do anything for this really because ppl will just stand still now but yeah youre right as long as i take 10 minutes to clear 5 1/2 rooms to make sure im 100% safe from landmine rogue i will avoid it completely. the class still has its dumb damage for what it is and im not saying other classes arent just as stupid but from a game that wants to have longer fights getting 3 tapped in 2 seconds doesnt seem like a long fight nor game sense but alright
@Spotless_Yt and yet again I agree high end the TTK is basically nonexistent for most classes, SDF insists it stays that way where Terence wants it slower, I want the game to be balanced and fun as well, thats why all damage should be knocked down across the board
lol, as opposed to "stare at the ground simulator" or hope any class forgot how invis pots work, or better yet, just fucking sitting in the dark as barb lmaoooooo
haha cope buddy "im so good at this game" xD