@@framesbond007so getting equal pay is a curse? i watch both men and women tennis and enjoy both. Stop with the women bashing, we will keep fighting for things that can improve lives while people like you go on fighting to have a period and give birth.
50 years of equal pay without equal play ! Until the men's game is reduced to 3 sets in slams, there can NEVER be equality ! Men providing many more hours of entertainment for paying customers than women, yet only getting paid the same as women. Unpopular fact!
It's actually a very popular opinion, but the population is either getting more brainwashed or to timid to speak up. Apart from the time spent on court, it's the market participation of ticket sales, tv viewership, merchandise etc that makes the men's game generate more revenue multiple times more than the WTA. In all honesty, I think the US Open women's final generally drives more viewership than the men's game, but that was when Serena was still playing. Not sure about after.
@@slammerw3 The only time I’d ever tune-in to see a Serena match was to watch the hottie on the other side of the net and/or to see a Serena loss, entitlement tantrum, or total meltdown.
Reduce mens to 3. 5 is boring. Tennis is about entertainment and where women matched bring in more customers and TV ratings as was the case with the Williams sisters , Graf / Seles etc they should be paid much more. Only fair.
@@dayanandnaraine9015 5 is what makes these tournaments majors. Withe equal prize money, the pay for the women is actually greater because the work is not equal.
These days there's no such thing as unequal pay. If there was no equal pay or women got paid less, wouldn't corporations just hire women because they get to save more money?
Of course there is. The discrepancy between the wnba and nba. Women get paid less in many professions - it may not be blatantly obvious a lot of times but it exists.
@@pennytrue2741 Men in the NBA get paid more because they have way more viewers and endorsements. Women in the WNBA get paid less because nobody wants to watch them or waste their money on endorsing them.
@@pennytrue2741 NBA generates billions of dollars in revenue but nobody watches the WNBA... In fact, the WNBA has been losing money for 25 years. It's being subsidized by the NBA. If a business existed for 25 years, all loses, IRS would look into it as a possible money laundering scheme OR a non profit organization. Why then are WNBA players exempted from turning a profit and getting charity money when they are all able bodied and healthy?
Equality based on gender convenience. Play 3 out of 5 sets like the men do, and sell as many tickets as the men do then it should be equal. The men's tennis athletes probably take a pay cut in subsidizing women's tennis no different than the NBA subsidizing the WNBA. Make women subject to the military draft like men are. You never hear women complain about inequality in that regard.
@@tintanews And by the way, you never did respond to women playing less than men in tennis and not selling as many tickets but receiving equal pay. If the roles were reversed for professional athletes, women would riot even more.
Raise kids... wait a minute, who said the kids have to raise by the mother 24/7? Also you said ''go through so many things'' what are these things? Your moods??? And if being a woman is sooo much harder than being a man, please explain to me why the rate is hight for man for suicide, homeleness, jobless??? And to finish for tennis and money, 80 of the tournament money comes from the man! look at the WTA compare to ATP. Woman tournament get less money because nobody watch the games.... So ask youself why if the population is 50/50 man and woman, why are the stadium not full of woman for woman games???? That will solve pay gap....
So men play 5 sets while women play just 3 per match! That is way more stress on your body and joints and ultimately takes a toll on how many more matches you can play in your career. That is not equal pay, that is women getting paid more for playing less. If these modern feminists were serious about equality then why not do what McEnroe proposed, just have men and women compete on the same tour for the same price money and get rid of the men vs women distinction; but wait, these feminists dont want that cause they know there IS a difference in performance between men and women. And shouldnt higher performance by the men translate to higher price money? These women here aren’t demanding equal pay, they are demanding to be graded on a curve… complete hypocrisy
work less,play worse, bring in less revenue then men and get paid the same now that’s true equality , best example 2019 women’s wimbledon final took less than an hour while men’s final played for 5 hours 😅😅
Gauff is too dumb to see when she is being abused. She was only trying to create problems because Siegemund beat her in the first set until she got tired and handed her the match. Gauff is too ignorant to be used as an example for anything.
I'm sure Coco doesn't give a f* that some female (or male) athletes of other sports are paid just enough to survive, even at the highest level, unless they win a gold medal and get some good sponsors, while female tennis players, even without equal prize money, even if they don't win any tournaments, are all still multimillionaires. It's all about entertainment, it's about which sport or which tour is more engaging, and it can't be equal.
Do they realize they’re actually celebrating 50 years of stagnation in women’s tennis? Depriving women and their fans by not allowing women to experience the higher number and duration of their fans cheering in appreciation for a 5 set match? 50 years, and still denying the reality of being outperformed by men?
In this era we live in, the equal pay ideology is not modern, but communist. The WTA, ATP and FIFA are basically taking the men's revenues and redispursing it to the women, subsidising their tours, when the men bring in up to 90% of the income. If you break down ticket sales, merchandise, and most importantly TV viewership, the men's game vastly attracts more viewers/fans. Also women's tennis is in decline ever since Serena and Sharapova left. So they are in a bigger hole going forward. Also men's tennis ( no fed, little nadal play ), so there will be less revenue to go around. If they want equal pay, start paying onlyfans content creators, models, divorcees, servers, strippers equally. So this 'equality' ideology is just making women and soy feminists more bitter, have a 'hat in hand' begging mentality and are also angry about it.
Yeah…you’ll love it too when feeble Joe steps down for health reasons and they attach the marionette strings to BIG MIKE and the illiterate electorate in this country installs her as the next president. Then Obama can have his 4th and 5th terms in office to complete the fundamental transformation (re: destruction) of the country our forefathers fought and died for.
It's so unfair for women to get equal pay playing in the majors. To make it fair, women should play best of 5 also. Women have become much stronger now, and are in good shape to play 5 sets. Women's game is much different since the time Billie Jean King was playing. So, make the women work harder like men to get equal pay.
@TheVerbalVolley 1 second ago AGAIN...the women have ALWAYS offered to play best of five set matches in the majors, and Oz was supposed to be the first Slam tournament to do so about a decade ago. But, at the last minute, they changed their mind, because increasing the length of the women's matches would necessitate the need to extend the length of a GS from 2 to 3 weeks (and even longer, if the weather was uncooperative). I wish people would do a little research to see that the women ARE STILL READY AND WILLING to play best of five set matches. It is the tennis associations of the Slams that are not willing to do it, and blocking it from occurring, due to time constraints.
Why "equal pay"?. Women play half time to conclude their matches in 3 sets. It's not fair to charge the same for working half the time. The courts where women play are emptier and women's tennis fails to attract the same interest for spectators, except when girls join men's events out of interest (as parasites), to gain visibility. Events where only WTA matches are played do not achieve the same interest in television broadcasts. Television stations do not pay the same and tickets to these women-only events are much cheaper, because the interest is much lower. If the US OPEN only had ATP players, it would sell the same number of tickets, for the same price. The same would happen with television rights. The men's circuit does not benefit in any way from the women's circuit. But the female tries to take advantage of the male to gain viewers and claim the same pay by playing half the time. It is very unfair that one person earns the same money as another by working half as much. That is not equality. It's going overboard. Billy Jean almost lost to a 55-year-old average male player, after his partner, world number 1, lost to him. And as John McEnroe said, if Serena Williams played on the men's circuit she would be close to 700th place. I would love for the top 10 in the WTA rankings to play for a year on the ATP circuit to see where they would be.
Equal award nor equal pay. Man winner has to work 30 hours on court for the same prize money as woman who spent 10 hours on court. Not to mention the number of spectators. Bravo for women !
women sell more ticket for US open.... dont believe wat media says... Washington, cincy, montreal... WTA sold mkre tickets than men. Us open for the last 6 years has been selling more women tickets than men. Best of 5 has been rejected, women are willing to play. They have good endurace to paly doubles and singles on the same day.
I am not following media @@lizzy341 , I like and watch tennis, live or on tv. in normal life everybody will complain if he or she has to work double shift for same sallary
@@lizzy341I Just put on Google. And tickets peixes are way Higher for mens matches. So no. And most women players dont want 5 sets games. The organization wouldnt allow tis "misoginy"
I see this equal pay in tennis and soccer for women as basically begging hat in hand. Men bring in close to 90% of the revenue but they are forced to share it with the women. Why don't the organisers, managers in the ATP, WTA and FIFA instead cut their salaries by 75%, sell their assets and children's college education fund to give the women an 'equal' pay.
The US open sells tickets for mornings and nights and day passes. See ticket revenue isn't split between men and women. You can even buy a general pass. Sponsors are also willing to pay enough to have equal pay. Seems like people are upset by that.
@@isaacm2374 sponsors will primarily pay for audience reach and ratings. The main income is TV rights. The men provide the most viewership + event time. If you look at a lot of the night matches where the men play first, the stadium attendance for the following women’s matches are around 30% if so much many times.
This is so not fair!! Men play 5 sets and women play 3 sets. How on earth do you want equal pay. If you are paid equally then you should play equally. The world is so fucked up now that we think men and women are the same in sports😂😂😂
Ms. King came to our highschool in '76 to play our best tennis player,Shirley Macinerny.She was a great player,who didn't embarass Bobby Riggs too badly!Glad to see she's doing well.
So the women's game reached the goal of equal pay...congratulations! I do find it interesting that the vocal proponents haven't been fighting equally hard to get the women's matches changed from best-of-three to best-of-five, like the men? You know, equal pay for equal work?
Look, sports isn’t a commissioned thing. The women spend the same amount of hours on the practice courts as the men, spend the same amount of hour on tour as the men, travel across the world and interrupt their lives and the lives of their families just like the men do. The only difference is that women need to play one less set of tennis than the men, or that they tee off from a slightly shorter distance than men on the golf course. So for people saying that women should get payed less because they are less popular and bring in less revenue, well, that really isn’t their fault or their problem. The only reason why people should get payed for anything is for dedication and amount of hours put in and talent as well (yes, the women are just as talented as the men, even if they’re not as physically capable as they are). I mean, that is, theoretically, how it should be in the everyday workforce, right? You out in the hours, you get the promotion/paycheck. So it goes in a law firm, and so it should go in sports. And as for the amount of sets women play vs men, when equal pay was first discussed, the women were actually ready and willing to play three sets instead of two and the USTA turned them down. That’s not their fault either. I believe women and men should compete to the same standards (that’s means three sets for both in majors, for example), but this revenue argument is absolutely absurd in all ways. So, as a man and a tennis player, I definitely support equal pay for all sports (and in life in general).
Are you paid based on the time spent improving yourself or for the time spent travelling to work? No, you are paid based on the hours spent at work. Who cares if Nadal spends 8 hours training and Djokovic 12? The end result is what matters, and the fact is that men spend 4-5-6 hours on court while women spend only 1 or 2. So the hourly pay for women is actually 2-3 times greater than men's. Totally unequal pay. There are many jobs where women are paid better than men and nobody bats an eyelid.
Haha so with your logic WNBA player shoud get the same at NBA player? Seriously use your brain, people should get paid depending on what they generate. Woman don't generate money because their stadiums are half empty (strange no... Why are thsese stadium not full of feminist) with 3 billions womans on the planet! So stop blaming the system and say it's sexist blablabla).
@@neptune1525- the four tournaments with the most prize money* also, it’s not just about length of matches, but about viewership and fan interest… if the Majors and 1000 tournaments weren’t both Men’s and Women’s tournaments, ticket sales, broadcast contracts, etc. would be much lower for Women’s tournaments, so female players should be thanking male players for their equal prize money as well 🤷🏻♂️
No prumpter no paper, and no one babbling all over the place. Highly educated and beautiful person, and yes your negative comments do not change history.
I had a Chicken Burrito at Chipotle the other day. I had it with white rice Black Beans and those vegetables which I never knew were an option and topped it off with the mild sauce and skipped the Guacamole.
If billie jean king thinks men should be able to play women's sports, why didnt she advocate for one pro league regardless of gender. Instead of equal pay for women
ille Jean King is nothing. Equal pay for equal work, sure. However, women do not do equal work when compared to the men. They play three sets compared to five sets. Also, if they want true equality then there should be no men's or women's tennis, just tennis where the best tennis players play regardless of gender.
Women tennis is actually popular, so no problems with the players getting paid. As for WNBA or the USWNT (soccer), they don't have the popularity. Even women UFC fighters are paid well. Should male models or reality TV stars ask to be paid as much as women? Of course not, because women models/reality TV are more popular. It's just the reality.
What has what Billie Jean King accomplishments have to do with Blacks in Tennis? I don’t remember one black in the women that joined Billie to bring about fair pay for women players. Why did you people make it all about blacks?
Serious question. How is it "equal" pay when the men play best of 5 sets vs women's best of 3? If I'm expected to play more games/sets per match, shouldn't I get paid more than the ones who play fewer?
AGAIN...the women have ALWAYS offered to play best of five set matches in the majors, and Oz was supposed to be the first Slam tournament to do so about a decade ago. But, at the last minute, they changed their mind, because increasing the length of the women's matches would necessitate the need to extend the length of a GS from 2 to 3 weeks (and even longer, if the weather was uncooperative). I wish people would do a little research to see that the women ARE STILL READY AND WILLING to play best of five set matches. It is the tennis associations of the Slams that are not willing to do it, and blocking it from occurring, due to time constraints.
@@TheVerbalVolley that's a very convenient cop out. Tennis fans are happy to get 3 weeks of tennis. It's really not about the number of days needed. It's about the revenue coming in from those matches. I love women's tennis but even the top players today cant even last 2hours on the court, much less 5 sets like djoker had last night. So why would Iga get the same money as djoker if they both manage to win?
and saying "AGAIN" doesnt add to your argument. It just makes it obvious that you've been trying to justify it for so long and it still doesnt make sense
@@teejteejteej143The reason that I say "again" is because the topic may be new to people & I want them to know that it has been explained on RUclips many, many times before by various sources. Don't try to create a controversy where there is none.
@@teejteejteej143Best of five sets would add 7,620 minutes to the tournament schedule (this is averaging only a minimum of 30 extra minutes per match for a three of five set match, and that is if it only went three sets), which translates to 127 hours, which translates to 5.29 days. Three weeks is something the GS tournaments do not want, as OZ indicated when it scrapped the idea of attempting to have the women play best of five sets about a decade ago. If you add in rain outs, etc. this could go well into a fourth week. This would present a real scheduling problem. I personally think that both the men and women should play best of three sets until the quarter-finals and then play best of five sets from the quarter-finals forward. Outside of the Slams, both the men and women play best of three sets anyway.
Some people don't understand what it means to get paid less than a man. So, let them continue to have their comments, they will know in minute, when they start to research they will find out they are underpaid. You should start researching, you don't have far to go.
I understand the Women's tennis gets "equal pay" since women tennis is ACTUALLY popular enough to get this. Meanwhile, WNBA players is demading for "equal pay" when they weren't even getting as popular than the NBA. They can't even wait until the get enough popularity to fund their so called "equal pay", they want "equal pay" now 😂😂😂.
The WTA viewership is less than half of the men's game when the year end finals are played. The WTA finals peak was around 3m while the ATP was close to 7m. If the organisers didn't schedule the men's and women's games near to each other, idk how the WTA would survive. Especially since Serena and Sharapova left.
@runrafarunthebestintheworld it's not about it being fast paced (if that's the case, then NBA players wouldn't get the salaries they get today). it's just that WNBA isn't that popular YET to fund its players what they think is "equal" to NBA. Part of it may be because of the history since NBA is older than WNBA, but it's not fair for them to call out "equal pay" when they're still in the midst of trying to make their league popular to audiences.
WNBA is doing its best now by trying to find it's "Michael Jordan" or "Magic Johnson" that gives so much popularity to the world that it rises up the league to be a global icon. If they do find that person and they still get lower pay than NBA, then I would say it's reasonable for them to complain about their salary. But... not yet... not yet.
This equal prize money thing is just nonsense. Do female tennis players earn the same amount of money as track and field athletes, swimmers, gymnasts...? No, they don't. They earn much more. Why? Because sport is entertainment. If tennis is more engaging than high jump, then tennis players should be paid more than high jumpers (and they are). If men's tennis is more engaging than women's tennis, men should be paid more. I'm sure women's tennis players would still be paid waaay more than men's high jumpers. And also, 90% of coaches and sparring partners on the women's tour are men and they don't even want their player to win slams or be legends, they're just happy with their big semifinalists or runner-up checks.
Equal pay for selling less tickets. And still thousands and millions, even if they don't win anything, while female athletes of other sports earn just about what it takes to survive, unless they win the gold medal. What equality!
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More than 90% people came to watch are for men’s game. Like majority of the people I paid a lot of money to watch Novak Djokovich and also bought more tickets only for Men’s game. Equal pay will be unfair to men’s players cuz they generate all the revenues.
Billie Jean King did much better than equal pay in the four majors where men work 1 2/3 times more than the women for the same money.If women played 5 set matches and men played 3 set matches we would never ever ever hear the end of them complaining.Just saying.
Men should demand that their number of sets be reduced to 3 sets per match. Either that or bump up the women's matches to 5 sets.
it's not about the number of sets. it's about selling tickets.
@@framesbond007so getting equal pay is a curse? i watch both men and women tennis and enjoy both. Stop with the women bashing, we will keep fighting for things that can improve lives while people like you go on fighting to have a period and give birth.
50 years of equal pay without equal play ! Until the men's game is reduced to 3 sets in slams, there can NEVER be equality ! Men providing many more hours of entertainment for paying customers than women, yet only getting paid the same as women. Unpopular fact!
It's actually a very popular opinion, but the population is either getting more brainwashed or to timid to speak up. Apart from the time spent on court, it's the market participation of ticket sales, tv viewership, merchandise etc that makes the men's game generate more revenue multiple times more than the WTA. In all honesty, I think the US Open women's final generally drives more viewership than the men's game, but that was when Serena was still playing. Not sure about after.
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The only time I’d ever tune-in to see a Serena match was to watch the hottie on the other side of the net and/or to see a Serena loss, entitlement tantrum, or total meltdown.
Reduce mens to 3. 5 is boring. Tennis is about entertainment and where women matched bring in more customers and TV ratings as was the case with the Williams sisters , Graf / Seles etc they should be paid much more. Only fair.
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5 is what makes these tournaments majors. Withe equal prize money, the pay for the women is actually greater because the work is not equal.
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My only wish, that Venus Williams had been there too. BJK, you still rock!
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These days there's no such thing as unequal pay. If there was no equal pay or women got paid less, wouldn't corporations just hire women because they get to save more money?
Shut up please your just lying to yourself at this point.
Of course there is. The discrepancy between the wnba and nba. Women get paid less in many professions - it may not be blatantly obvious a lot of times but it exists.
@@pennytrue2741 Men in the NBA get paid more because they have way more viewers and endorsements. Women in the WNBA get paid less because nobody wants to watch them or waste their money on endorsing them.
@@pennytrue2741 The WNBA is basically subsidised by the NBA. It's as though the NBA is doing charity work to please the women.
@@pennytrue2741 NBA generates billions of dollars in revenue but nobody watches the WNBA... In fact, the WNBA has been losing money for 25 years. It's being subsidized by the NBA. If a business existed for 25 years, all loses, IRS would look into it as a possible money laundering scheme OR a non profit organization. Why then are WNBA players exempted from turning a profit and getting charity money when they are all able bodied and healthy?
Equality based on gender convenience. Play 3 out of 5 sets like the men do, and sell as many tickets as the men do then it should be equal. The men's tennis athletes probably take a pay cut in subsidizing women's tennis no different than the NBA subsidizing the WNBA. Make women subject to the military draft like men are. You never hear women complain about inequality in that regard.
Have men give birth, have periods, raise kids, be there 24/7 for them, go through so many things men have no idea!!
@@tintanews And by the way, you never did respond to women playing less than men in tennis and not selling as many tickets but receiving equal pay. If the roles were reversed for professional athletes, women would riot even more.
Raise kids... wait a minute, who said the kids have to raise by the mother 24/7?
Also you said ''go through so many things'' what are these things? Your moods???
And if being a woman is sooo much harder than being a man, please explain to me why the rate is hight for man for suicide, homeleness, jobless???
And to finish for tennis and money, 80 of the tournament money comes from the man! look at the WTA compare to ATP. Woman tournament get less money because nobody watch the games.... So ask youself why if the population is 50/50 man and woman, why are the stadium not full of woman for woman games???? That will solve pay gap....
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So men play 5 sets while women play just 3 per match! That is way more stress on your body and joints and ultimately takes a toll on how many more matches you can play in your career. That is not equal pay, that is women getting paid more for playing less. If these modern feminists were serious about equality then why not do what McEnroe proposed, just have men and women compete on the same tour for the same price money and get rid of the men vs women distinction; but wait, these feminists dont want that cause they know there IS a difference in performance between men and women. And shouldnt higher performance by the men translate to higher price money? These women here aren’t demanding equal pay, they are demanding to be graded on a curve… complete hypocrisy
work less,play worse, bring in less revenue then men and get paid the same now that’s true equality , best example 2019 women’s wimbledon final took less than an hour while men’s final played for 5 hours 😅😅
Exactly what Coco Gauff did on her first round match. “Be brave”, speak up and stand your ground when you know you’re on the right.
then coco also need to speak up against wildcards given just based on nationality which creates manufactured ranking.
Gauff is too dumb to see when she is being abused. She was only trying to create problems because Siegemund beat her in the first set until she got tired and handed her the match. Gauff is too ignorant to be used as an example for anything.
I'm sure Coco doesn't give a f* that some female (or male) athletes of other sports are paid just enough to survive, even at the highest level, unless they win a gold medal and get some good sponsors, while female tennis players, even without equal prize money, even if they don't win any tournaments, are all still multimillionaires. It's all about entertainment, it's about which sport or which tour is more engaging, and it can't be equal.
Do they realize they’re actually celebrating 50 years of stagnation in women’s tennis? Depriving women and their fans by not allowing women to experience the higher number and duration of their fans cheering in appreciation for a 5 set match? 50 years, and still denying the reality of being outperformed by men?
In this era we live in, the equal pay ideology is not modern, but communist. The WTA, ATP and FIFA are basically taking the men's revenues and redispursing it to the women, subsidising their tours, when the men bring in up to 90% of the income. If you break down ticket sales, merchandise, and most importantly TV viewership, the men's game vastly attracts more viewers/fans.
Also women's tennis is in decline ever since Serena and Sharapova left. So they are in a bigger hole going forward. Also men's tennis ( no fed, little nadal play ), so there will be less revenue to go around.
If they want equal pay, start paying onlyfans content creators, models, divorcees, servers, strippers equally.
So this 'equality' ideology is just making women and soy feminists more bitter, have a 'hat in hand' begging mentality and are also angry about it.
Love how the crowd erupted for Michelle Obama
They love Big Mike !
@@denniscarsner:...and they hate little mushroom Donald...
Yeah…you’ll love it too when feeble Joe steps down for health reasons and they attach the marionette strings to BIG MIKE and the illiterate electorate in this country installs her as the next president. Then Obama can have his 4th and 5th terms in office to complete the fundamental transformation (re: destruction) of the country our forefathers fought and died for.
That dude got a great round of applause
That man will be our next president
Who was the man in the white cap during the "thank you" segment? I don't recognize him.
Why is Michael celebrating?
That's Big Mike bruh
...because little d Donald got a mugshot in Atlanta..
Thank You ESPA A Beautiful Tribute
Women want equal pay but will not play 3 sets to win like men
The school lunch program lady really got the clapping seals excited.
It's so unfair for women to get equal pay playing in the majors. To make it fair, women should play best of 5 also. Women have become much stronger now, and are in good shape to play 5 sets. Women's game is much different since the time Billie Jean King was playing. So, make the women work harder like men to get equal pay.
A very sound comment. Thanks ;)
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AGAIN...the women have ALWAYS offered to play best of five set matches in the majors, and Oz was supposed to be the first Slam tournament to do so about a decade ago. But, at the last minute, they changed their mind, because increasing the length of the women's matches would necessitate the need to extend the length of a GS from 2 to 3 weeks (and even longer, if the weather was uncooperative). I wish people would do a little research to see that the women ARE STILL READY AND WILLING to play best of five set matches. It is the tennis associations of the Slams that are not willing to do it, and blocking it from occurring, due to time constraints.
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Thank you so much Billie Jean ♥️
Why paying equal for not equal work, let alone quality?
Barack Obama is a great public speaker, but I sometimes think Michelle is even better.
Same person lol
@@zap7759hateful much😮
If she ran for President, Republicans would cry, because I believe she could actually win.
You mean Michael the first transgender to be come first lady ,I hope not.
@@AlyxCoeI am one thing u will never be, president. Barrack Obama
Why "equal pay"?. Women play half time to conclude their matches in 3 sets. It's not fair to charge the same for working half the time. The courts where women play are emptier and women's tennis fails to attract the same interest for spectators, except when girls join men's events out of interest (as parasites), to gain visibility. Events where only WTA matches are played do not achieve the same interest in television broadcasts. Television stations do not pay the same and tickets to these women-only events are much cheaper, because the interest is much lower. If the US OPEN only had ATP players, it would sell the same number of tickets, for the same price. The same would happen with television rights. The men's circuit does not benefit in any way from the women's circuit. But the female tries to take advantage of the male to gain viewers and claim the same pay by playing half the time. It is very unfair that one person earns the same money as another by working half as much. That is not equality. It's going overboard. Billy Jean almost lost to a 55-year-old average male player, after his partner, world number 1, lost to him. And as John McEnroe said, if Serena Williams played on the men's circuit she would be close to 700th place. I would love for the top 10 in the WTA rankings to play for a year on the ATP circuit to see where they would be.
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Equal award nor equal pay. Man winner has to work 30 hours on court for the same prize money as woman who spent 10 hours on court. Not to mention the number of spectators. Bravo for women !
women sell more ticket for US open.... dont believe wat media says... Washington, cincy, montreal... WTA sold mkre tickets than men. Us open for the last 6 years has been selling more women tickets than men. Best of 5 has been rejected, women are willing to play. They have good endurace to paly doubles and singles on the same day.
I am not following media @@lizzy341 , I like and watch tennis, live or on tv. in normal life everybody will complain if he or she has to work double shift for same sallary
@@lizzy341I Just put on Google. And tickets peixes are way Higher for mens matches. So no.
And most women players dont want 5 sets games. The organization wouldnt allow tis "misoginy"
a poignant tribute to Billie Jean King.
Austin Powers, "That's a man, baby!"
Some people are going to be offended and outraged that the US open is celebrating equal pay. That's where we are in today's culture.
I see this equal pay in tennis and soccer for women as basically begging hat in hand. Men bring in close to 90% of the revenue but they are forced to share it with the women. Why don't the organisers, managers in the ATP, WTA and FIFA instead cut their salaries by 75%, sell their assets and children's college education fund to give the women an 'equal' pay.
Or maybe just calling out bs. Criticism and scrutiny aren't attacks
Men bring more crowd, men play more and gets paid the same? How's that fair?
The US open sells tickets for mornings and nights and day passes. See ticket revenue isn't split between men and women. You can even buy a general pass. Sponsors are also willing to pay enough to have equal pay. Seems like people are upset by that.
@@isaacm2374 sponsors will primarily pay for audience reach and ratings. The main income is TV rights. The men provide the most viewership + event time. If you look at a lot of the night matches where the men play first, the stadium attendance for the following women’s matches are around 30% if so much many times.
This is so not fair!! Men play 5 sets and women play 3 sets. How on earth do you want equal pay. If you are paid equally then you should play equally. The world is so fucked up now that we think men and women are the same in sports😂😂😂
Tickets are sold out for both males female tennis when they played.
Ms. King came to our highschool in '76 to play our best tennis player,Shirley Macinerny.She was a great player,who didn't embarass Bobby Riggs too badly!Glad to see she's doing well.
How’s that woman’s lib working out
You mean MR. KING.
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@@cola7ups823 I did not mean Mr king
So the women's game reached the goal of equal pay...congratulations! I do find it interesting that the vocal proponents haven't been fighting equally hard to get the women's matches changed from best-of-three to best-of-five, like the men? You know, equal pay for equal work?
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So when are the female player with play 5 sets in grand slams?
Look, sports isn’t a commissioned thing. The women spend the same amount of hours on the practice courts as the men, spend the same amount of hour on tour as the men, travel across the world and interrupt their lives and the lives of their families just like the men do. The only difference is that women need to play one less set of tennis than the men, or that they tee off from a slightly shorter distance than men on the golf course. So for people saying that women should get payed less because they are less popular and bring in less revenue, well, that really isn’t their fault or their problem. The only reason why people should get payed for anything is for dedication and amount of hours put in and talent as well (yes, the women are just as talented as the men, even if they’re not as physically capable as they are). I mean, that is, theoretically, how it should be in the everyday workforce, right? You out in the hours, you get the promotion/paycheck. So it goes in a law firm, and so it should go in sports. And as for the amount of sets women play vs men, when equal pay was first discussed, the women were actually ready and willing to play three sets instead of two and the USTA turned them down. That’s not their fault either. I believe women and men should compete to the same standards (that’s means three sets for both in majors, for example), but this revenue argument is absolutely absurd in all ways. So, as a man and a tennis player, I definitely support equal pay for all sports (and in life in general).
Are you paid based on the time spent improving yourself or for the time spent travelling to work? No, you are paid based on the hours spent at work. Who cares if Nadal spends 8 hours training and Djokovic 12? The end result is what matters, and the fact is that men spend 4-5-6 hours on court while women spend only 1 or 2. So the hourly pay for women is actually 2-3 times greater than men's. Totally unequal pay. There are many jobs where women are paid better than men and nobody bats an eyelid.
Haha so with your logic WNBA player shoud get the same at NBA player? Seriously use your brain, people should get paid depending on what they generate. Woman don't generate money because their stadiums are half empty (strange no... Why are thsese stadium not full of feminist) with 3 billions womans on the planet! So stop blaming the system and say it's sexist blablabla).
Equal pay, but not equal sets !!!
Girl power 👊
Tell that to the organizers and not the players
@@Samoni0608its not the organizers fault they cant pay accordingly they kniw their in america and will get crucified for tge idea
@@darryelphillip5219 If you watched tennis you would know that this is the case for only 4 tournament out of the literal hundreds in the season😐😐
@@neptune1525- the four tournaments with the most prize money*
also, it’s not just about length of matches, but about viewership and fan interest… if the Majors and 1000 tournaments weren’t both Men’s and Women’s tournaments, ticket sales, broadcast contracts, etc. would be much lower for Women’s tournaments, so female players should be thanking male players for their equal prize money as well 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sam_T2000 Ugh ur so annoying!! >:(
I’m for equal pay but this is not equal
Want equal pay then play best of 5
Best of 3 is not equal that’s privileged
What Big Mike is doing there?
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Something hangs in the balance between his legs. 😅
Big mike Robinson. Same cia class as Barry
Hypocrisy, they left out the equal work for equal pay.
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I’m sayin if the women want equal pay, let them play best of 5 sets, instead of just beat of 3.
they never rejected, grand slams rejected it.
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Well deserved for ❤this legend that changed the world. She defines her own meme ‘pressure is a privilege’.
No prumpter no paper, and no one babbling all over the place. Highly educated and beautiful person, and yes your negative comments do not change history.
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Now Men compete 😂 in women sports ⚾️ 🏀 🏈 ⚽️ and dominate… The fruit of the women movement 😂
I had a Chicken Burrito at Chipotle the other day. I had it with white rice Black Beans and those vegetables which I never knew were an option and topped it off with the mild sauce and skipped the Guacamole.
I didn't know that getting paid the same for less work was equal. It's outrageous.
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50 years of people not understanding how pay works
Thanks for your sound comment. Very rare these days.
If billie jean king thinks men should be able to play women's sports, why didnt she advocate for one pro league regardless of gender. Instead of equal pay for women
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No one should be allowed to lose. We are all winners. Divided all money equally. Why play the game I everyone is equal?
who is the girl?
ille Jean King is nothing. Equal pay for equal work, sure. However, women do not do equal work when compared to the men. They play three sets compared to five sets. Also, if they want true equality then there should be no men's or women's tennis, just tennis where the best tennis players play regardless of gender.
@mrgregorydscott What?
Is it really equal pay though? Bo5 vs Bo3
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Women tennis is actually popular, so no problems with the players getting paid. As for WNBA or the USWNT (soccer), they don't have the popularity. Even women UFC fighters are paid well. Should male models or reality TV stars ask to be paid as much as women? Of course not, because women models/reality TV are more popular. It's just the reality.
A shining example of a powerful female roll-model right there!... Billy-Jean I'm talking about, not Big Mike!
What has what Billie Jean King accomplishments have to do with Blacks in Tennis? I don’t remember one black in the women that joined Billie to bring about fair pay for women players. Why did you people make it all about blacks?
USA is a great country ... but the general crowd absolutely sucks .
Serious question. How is it "equal" pay when the men play best of 5 sets vs women's best of 3? If I'm expected to play more games/sets per match, shouldn't I get paid more than the ones who play fewer?
AGAIN...the women have ALWAYS offered to play best of five set matches in the majors, and Oz was supposed to be the first Slam tournament to do so about a decade ago. But, at the last minute, they changed their mind, because increasing the length of the women's matches would necessitate the need to extend the length of a GS from 2 to 3 weeks (and even longer, if the weather was uncooperative). I wish people would do a little research to see that the women ARE STILL READY AND WILLING to play best of five set matches. It is the tennis associations of the Slams that are not willing to do it, and blocking it from occurring, due to time constraints.
@@TheVerbalVolley that's a very convenient cop out. Tennis fans are happy to get 3 weeks of tennis. It's really not about the number of days needed. It's about the revenue coming in from those matches. I love women's tennis but even the top players today cant even last 2hours on the court, much less 5 sets like djoker had last night. So why would Iga get the same money as djoker if they both manage to win?
and saying "AGAIN" doesnt add to your argument. It just makes it obvious that you've been trying to justify it for so long and it still doesnt make sense
@@teejteejteej143The reason that I say "again" is because the topic may be new to people & I want them to know that it has been explained on RUclips many, many times before by various sources. Don't try to create a controversy where there is none.
@@teejteejteej143Best of five sets would add 7,620 minutes to the tournament schedule (this is averaging only a minimum of 30 extra minutes per match for a three of five set match, and that is if it only went three sets), which translates to 127 hours, which translates to 5.29 days. Three weeks is something the GS tournaments do not want, as OZ indicated when it scrapped the idea of attempting to have the women play best of five sets about a decade ago. If you add in rain outs, etc. this could go well into a fourth week. This would present a real scheduling problem. I personally think that both the men and women should play best of three sets until the quarter-finals and then play best of five sets from the quarter-finals forward. Outside of the Slams, both the men and women play best of three sets anyway.
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Some people don't understand what it means to get paid less than a man. So, let them continue to have their comments, they will know in minute, when they start to research they will find out they are underpaid. You should start researching, you don't have far to go.
They are literally explaining way somente are getting Less.
Less Works hours. Less dans. Less TV viewers. Less tickets Sales.
Wokeism...
I had to get a barf bag to watch this. Even then I couldn't sit through all this estrogen drama and had to tune it out.
If women want equal pay they should be playing 5 sets not 3
A very entertaining circus act. Arigato!
I understand the Women's tennis gets "equal pay" since women tennis is ACTUALLY popular enough to get this. Meanwhile, WNBA players is demading for "equal pay" when they weren't even getting as popular than the NBA. They can't even wait until the get enough popularity to fund their so called "equal pay", they want "equal pay" now 😂😂😂.
The WNBA isn't slow though it's a fast paced game so you really can't attack it for being different. Pfft
The WTA viewership is less than half of the men's game when the year end finals are played. The WTA finals peak was around 3m while the ATP was close to 7m. If the organisers didn't schedule the men's and women's games near to each other, idk how the WTA would survive. Especially since Serena and Sharapova left.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworldby different you mean inferior
@runrafarunthebestintheworld it's not about it being fast paced (if that's the case, then NBA players wouldn't get the salaries they get today). it's just that WNBA isn't that popular YET to fund its players what they think is "equal" to NBA. Part of it may be because of the history since NBA is older than WNBA, but it's not fair for them to call out "equal pay" when they're still in the midst of trying to make their league popular to audiences.
WNBA is doing its best now by trying to find it's "Michael Jordan" or "Magic Johnson" that gives so much popularity to the world that it rises up the league to be a global icon. If they do find that person and they still get lower pay than NBA, then I would say it's reasonable for them to complain about their salary. But... not yet... not yet.
This equal prize money thing is just nonsense. Do female tennis players earn the same amount of money as track and field athletes, swimmers, gymnasts...? No, they don't. They earn much more. Why? Because sport is entertainment. If tennis is more engaging than high jump, then tennis players should be paid more than high jumpers (and they are). If men's tennis is more engaging than women's tennis, men should be paid more. I'm sure women's tennis players would still be paid waaay more than men's high jumpers. And also, 90% of coaches and sparring partners on the women's tour are men and they don't even want their player to win slams or be legends, they're just happy with their big semifinalists or runner-up checks.
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The top 50 men need to ban togather and vow not to play the next grand slam unless all rounds except the final is the best of three sets.
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Equal pay for playing less tennis 😂😂 that sounds about right, well played ladies sorry woman sorry birthing people 😂😘
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Equal pay for selling less tickets. And still thousands and millions, even if they don't win anything, while female athletes of other sports earn just about what it takes to survive, unless they win the gold medal. What equality!
Equal pay for transgenders too. Love to see Roger Federer on the court again in female form. Snake eat itself.
“She” a man tho…I MEAN,BIG MIKE
...she's more man than little d Donald...
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Betcha big mike can dunk
5 set vs 3 set....
I support that ..women always get look down on ..I am super happy that things and situation are changing..equal pay right through..
Women should be paid less because they play slower and softer tennis.
Equal pay mean socialism and communism.
Equal pay for what sport? Not tennis! If it ain’t Serena or Venus playin nobody watchin
And ESPN is dying? I wonder why?
Why Sara Bareilles? One of the most boring artists of all time.
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But I thought there was a pay gap.
If Michelle Obama runs for president I want her to take a DNA TEST
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Well,that makes you and your male crew "forbidden MEAT EATERS! How is it?😅
But wait, I thought men make more than women??
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More than 90% people came to watch are for men’s game.
Like majority of the people I paid a lot of money to watch Novak Djokovich and also bought more tickets only for Men’s game. Equal pay will be unfair to men’s players cuz they generate all the revenues.
I can only prayer Michelle just stays masked up in their Kitchen with their new Chief. It's murderous for me listening to her.
Billie Jean King did much better than equal pay in the four majors where men work 1 2/3 times more than the women for the same money.If women played 5 set matches and men played 3 set matches we would never ever ever hear the end of them complaining.Just saying.
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