Why Black Mirror Had to Change

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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    Black Mirror returned this year for a 6th season, and it's hard to overstate how different the show feels. It's more focused on the past than the future, and has stripped out most of it's most dystopian technology. But, while this feels like a radical departure, it isn't. Black Mirror has never been just about technology or the future, but instead about media.
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  • @SkipIntroYT
    @SkipIntroYT  Год назад +97

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    • @davidgardner6677
      @davidgardner6677 Год назад

      😊😊

    • @davidgardner6677
      @davidgardner6677 Год назад

      😊😊

    • @2nd3rd1st
      @2nd3rd1st Год назад +2

      How ironic that after all this talk about dystopian society and habits, this video's sponsor is a lifestyle drug. Instead of promoting healthy living like Black Mirror ultimately does, you promote more unhealthy indulgence...

    • @fortgrove3166
      @fortgrove3166 Год назад

      And also, it’s weird that the term colored people was frowned upon and then stopped with negro but yet; people of color is now acceptable lol. Remember white is a color lol. Black is absence of color.

    • @sideshowkazstuff3867
      @sideshowkazstuff3867 Год назад

      @@2nd3rd1sthe has to rely on us to give him Monet for the content he creates. That also means he needs sponsors. It’s more black mirror than black mirror in a way.

  • @e.izaguirre2143
    @e.izaguirre2143 Год назад +2251

    Black mirror has always been Twilight Zone focused on tech. Without the tech, it’s just the Twilight Zone. This season was the most Twilight Zone season ever.

    • @roostre5254
      @roostre5254 Год назад

      So what tech was the first episode about? The one where the prime minister fucks a pig.

    • @thereverend6114
      @thereverend6114 Год назад +83

      I like the Twighlight Zone

    • @dr.limeade3035
      @dr.limeade3035 Год назад +160

      This statement is a insult to the Twilight Zone.

    • @JNR22B
      @JNR22B Год назад +1

      Amen to that

    • @rafaella9700
      @rafaella9700 Год назад +9

      If you watch the fiesta season again... It was not about tech

  • @lucymay446
    @lucymay446 Год назад +751

    A thing most people miss about the older episodes is there disturbing and ungratifying twist endings to reflect our unhappy dystopian reality and future. Now they all have some what resolute happy or easy endings.

    • @fahmitaufik1254
      @fahmitaufik1254 Год назад +77

      I won't spoiler anything but have you watched the latest season? apart from maybe joan is awful the ending is grim to me. And the ending haven't always been the norm in the series. Nosedive, San Junipero, and Hang The DJ to name a few have quite resolute and relatively happy ending.

    • @ellerose8807
      @ellerose8807 Год назад +37

      i disagree so heavily! this was one of the most dystopian depressing seasons?? which happy easy ending are u referring to? (besides masey daze that one was terrible)

    • @fatoumatacisse3796
      @fatoumatacisse3796 Год назад +26

      have you see beyond the sea and loch henry. How is that a happy ending??

    • @brycemcmillian1519
      @brycemcmillian1519 Год назад +28

      i dont think having your family get killed and then being stuck in an enclosed space with the person (who you cant kill or else you'll die too) who killed your whole family is a happy ending

    • @lucymay446
      @lucymay446 Год назад +14

      @@brycemcmillian1519 I think what I meant to add is that non of these endings really left me with that "oh damn" with a twist of an ending that really stays with you like some of the early episodes. The new ones don't have that affect

  • @TheSparrowLooksUp
    @TheSparrowLooksUp Год назад +50

    "What if your mum ran on batteries?" is the guiding principle of every creative endeavor I pursue.

  • @marce.t8732
    @marce.t8732 Год назад +1658

    I feel like "Demon 79" was the only episode in Season 6 that went off their usual tech theme. The other episodes seemed to at least have a throughline about spectacle. "Beyond the Sea" was probably the most congruent with episodes of past seasons.

    • @TheJadedJames
      @TheJadedJames Год назад +108

      The paparazzi episode ended with a werewolf attack. And in that episode they didn't prep you for it with the whole "Red Mirror" grindhouse tag clearly announcing that THIS episode is going to be different

    • @godbodyrock
      @godbodyrock Год назад +41

      when her eyes turned foggy gray as she was being forced to see into a person's past or apocalypse..that technology was used in past episodes...also that metal dog that was seen during the apocalypse was an entire episode in a prior season...

    • @BigPurp9
      @BigPurp9 Год назад +45

      I heard about how “bad” the new season was and cleared my schedule to see what all the fuss was about and honestly I loved it bar Mazey Day. It was much better than season 5 and bandersnatch at least

    • @Kroban_d4c
      @Kroban_d4c Год назад +65

      Yea I swear people dont seem to get the "tech/society critique" unless its a fucking futuristic device thrown at their face with some character saying something bad about it every 5 seconds... All episodes criticize something about our society in some way. Even Loch Henry which is treated as "the one with the less tech" still criticizes society by showing how people care more about "how good is the documentary" rather than what happened to the person itself

    • @godbodyrock
      @godbodyrock Год назад +7

      @@Kroban_d4c spot on...when a person loses themselves in the end result of fame...recall they were warned numerous times to disengage right!? but because the source looked unstable they continued only to have fate take out his lady...for him the bottom was knocked out of his soul...all for notoriety...but note he initially did not want to pursue 👀...

  • @ringofbrass
    @ringofbrass Год назад +539

    I quite liked the demon episode, it felt very black mirror in mood. I could very easily buy it being tech related vs supernatural as well, being part of some quantum computer multiverse not unlike the Joan episode. then you can think of that the 'endless void' they were meant to go to could theoretically have a backdoor that they could have a callister style ending.
    but the werewolf, I just feel like there needed to be a during credit montage expanding on the cover up/science/supernatural something and possibly some sort of hook or seed for werewolves (be they science based or supernatural) earlier in the episode. the episode felt very incomplete somehow.

    • @ringofbrass
      @ringofbrass Год назад +21

      I just liked the idea of if they are going to introduce 'supernatural' stuff... seeding a little bit of magic is just technology and science we don't understand yet kind of thing. I think there is some very interesting ground there. I think since they so often reference other episodes as being future/past or more importantly fiction/pop culture I universe in episodes, having full on multiversal episodes or episodes that directly call into view or competition different paths tech could go. one of the things I like about the show is different concepts of how we could reflect ourselves into technology and how that effects how it develops... so seeing that put into view would be interesting.

    • @JimJamTheAdmin
      @JimJamTheAdmin Год назад +1

      that tunnel scene just showed their hand, it was either a zombie, vampire, or werewolf and knowing its some sort of supernatural monster and it not being revealed which specific one isn't a twist or clever when she could be in the light and wasn't shambling.

    • @fyreborneblu6706
      @fyreborneblu6706 Год назад +3

      The astronauts in beyond the sea are there for a psychological study of Human Behavior in prolonged space travel while the Werewolf episode is about the media's toxicity towards it's celebrities' personal lives

    • @josephmatthews7698
      @josephmatthews7698 Год назад +20

      Werewolf was a pretty weak episode trying to say something about addiction and celebrity but failing miserably to connect the dots.
      The astronaut episode was by far the weakest though. First of all some random cult that's never mentioned again but likened to good ol Charlie that leads to nothing.
      Then a miraculous technology somehow available in the sixties yet the only thing they can think to do with it is use it for astronauts? Why didn't you send the robots into space? Makes zero sense.
      Plus you're willing to kill a woman, child and end your life because you lost your wife and children but are unwilling to just kill the other guy and yourself?
      The whole thing just made zero sense, didn't bother trying to say anything and was WAYYYYYY too long. It would have been far better if it was only 20 minutes long because the plot was so basic it wouldn't have given you the time to linger and think about the nonsensical bits.

    • @PorterNetwork
      @PorterNetwork Год назад +10

      The werewolf was definitely disappointing, especially given the LONG history of werewolves being used as metaphors for things in stories. But that just felt very undeveloped and not very well thought out.

  • @Feinei
    @Feinei Год назад +112

    I think black mirror isn't so much about media as it is about the dark side of human nature. Media just happens to be a great catalyst to enhance it. At least that's the way I felt with earlier seasons, with the episode "White Christmas" being my absolute favorite of the series. From the latest season, I feel like only the third and second episode manage to properly do this, and even then it was to limited effect compared to previous seasons.
    It's not so much that the over-arching themes feel off, it's something about the execution that feels like it's lacking, and I can't exactly put my finger onto what exactly that thing is.

  • @kthanna08
    @kthanna08 Год назад +186

    I thought this season was more about obsession. Like, usually black mirror is about our obsession with technology, with the focus being technology, but I thought this was more about obsession. Joan was obsessed with having the perfect life. Loch Henry was about their obsession with getting the story. In Beyond the sea, the cult became obsessed with the replica and then Josh hartnett became obsessed with Aaron Paul’s wife, while Aaron Paul always wanted to be in control. The paparazzi were obsessed with getting the money shot. And in demon 79 she was obsessed with making her third victim the evil politician and the demon with completing the 3 kills. Joan eventually learned to let go of her obsession and got a happy ending. In demon 79, once the mission is over and they both move on, they get a happy ending. Meanwhile, Pia’s obsession cost her her life and the guy got his perfect story, but at what cost? And of course the astronauts are both miserable with no way to end it. So, just like most episodes are like a warning about what our obsession with technology could lead to, this was a warning about what happens if we let our obsession consume us.

    • @chadsix4838
      @chadsix4838 Год назад +4

      A perfectly sound argument.

    • @brownsugar7922
      @brownsugar7922 Год назад

      Nice. Very well said.
      I wanna fistbump your brain but like in a bro way.

    • @medievalfoxx
      @medievalfoxx Год назад +2

      10/10 summary

    • @smartwater598
      @smartwater598 Год назад +2

      Weak basic take

    • @medievalfoxx
      @medievalfoxx Год назад +2

      @@smartwater598 i mean yeah it’s basic but it still summarizes the important parts

  • @jamisonwoodson8548
    @jamisonwoodson8548 Год назад +274

    My issue is the commentary about Humanity was THROUGH technology. I think we all knew the show as about us… the black mirrors of our screen show us that but, this new season’s ditching of the technological implications feels like it’s just cheapening the show’s intent.

    • @jamisonwoodson8548
      @jamisonwoodson8548 Год назад +33

      It feels more like Netflix wanting their own twilight zone rather than propelling the showdown unique aspect of anthology

    • @t4ngy
      @t4ngy Год назад +30

      I agree, I think they established a theme for 10 years and now they changed it for no reason. It's not about being a good or bad season, but about them suddenly changing their whole theme. Like if American Horror Story made a season about Barbies.

    • @AlexisQuan29
      @AlexisQuan29 Год назад

      THIS

    • @netteloveszebras
      @netteloveszebras Год назад +3

      It has always been a commentary on human nature at the heart of it. Whether it’s with media or with technology, none of these episodes mean anything without the human element and our darkest desires. This season still plays on that.

  • @joselocalau123
    @joselocalau123 Год назад +41

    people shit on The National Anthem all the time but it's honestly my favorite episode. It feels so absurd yet so real at the same time, and it's so disgusting it's chilling

    • @Torthrodhel
      @Torthrodhel Год назад +4

      I shit on it because it makes no goddamn sense, and its entire point is to point at you and say "Look, see all that sense we're not making? That's you, that is!" Bit of a hard sell, that mood.

    • @DanteMustLearn
      @DanteMustLearn Год назад +1

      And allegedly happened with ex PM Cameron

    • @Digger-Nick
      @Digger-Nick Год назад +2

      People shit on it cause it's a terrible episode that barely leans into technology.
      If you liked it that's great

    • @InaEsin
      @InaEsin 18 дней назад

      Black Mirror seems to me to be warnings against technology, full stop.
      National Anthem was (at the time) something that could and likely WOULD happen. Everyone's faces are buried into their phones, nobody would notice something happening right in the street...the disgruntled artist knew it would go down like that.
      If King Chuckles had to do the same, I'm sure bookies would tell you how that would likely turn out: The same.

  • @onipot9639
    @onipot9639 Год назад +41

    While Demon 79 is mostly about political media ( the rhetoric used by politicians/speeches/pamphlets etc.) It is also about media more broadly.
    She is always watching TV alone in her apartment, she has no friends and no life outside of this. Even when she is meant to get murdering she insists on watching TV instead, getting angry when the Demon tries to remove her from the TV ("I was watching that") - even though she needs to prevent the apocalypse.
    We also see her actively turn off the news which she finds hard to listen to as it depicts the awful things of the world. Despite having NF stuff graffitied on her door she would rather ignore it ( "I was going to paint over it") and hide from the (very real) issues that she is facing. She accepts the cruelty of her co-workers and allows herself to be pacified by the nicer things on the tv. The demon even appears to her as "The man from boney m" because that is what in her conscious mind she finds the most appealing and comforting. It is only once a demon literally shows her the horrid images of the world in her head that she faces the truth and stop allowing herself to be nullified and instead decides to take things into her own hands - addressing the racism and oppression head on. (Which includes new stories about politicians, nuclear war and even the guy who murdered his wife.)
    It also hits different when you realise the personal connection, Brooker's wife Konnie Huq is an Asian woman and her parents likely came over in the era this episode is set in, her sister is also a Labour Party MP. So then you kind of begin to see this episode of also giving women of colour a space in supernatural story telling whilst also reflecting on the issues faced by people of this era in a new perspective ( The real demon was the Tory politician, and the actual demon from the nether realm was an alright guy) .

    • @Spades20XX
      @Spades20XX 10 месяцев назад +1

      That was one helluva analysis

    • @onipot9639
      @onipot9639 10 месяцев назад

      Thank you I am glad you enjoyed it!

    • @InaEsin
      @InaEsin 18 дней назад

      It was literally a movie that was released in the Black Mirror World, but instead it's a Red Mirror (as in blood-seen in Beyond the Sea) production.
      I found it clever.

  • @danhill3302
    @danhill3302 Год назад +73

    I mean, the vast majority of the episodes as you stated did revolve around tech as establishing hook, so yeah while it also deals with media too, one of the fundamental elements has been stripped, I don't think it needed to change, seems like he just ran out of ideas.

    • @BleachBath-fr8ps
      @BleachBath-fr8ps Год назад +3

      Yeah, that's what happens when you repeat the same thing, ad nauseum.

    • @blackdragon6
      @blackdragon6 Год назад

      @@BleachBath-fr8ps exactly!

  • @BryonyClaire
    @BryonyClaire Год назад +78

    It's so weird that you came out with this when I'm in the process of editing a video about futuristic movies/tv being dystopian and the need for hope, I'll be sure to refer people back to this!

    • @Drekromancer
      @Drekromancer Год назад +5

      Fascinating. Good luck on the video, and please drop the link when you're ready!

    • @georgiaithaca5388
      @georgiaithaca5388 Год назад +2

      Fringe kind of predicted the loss of hope, individualism etc with the taking over of the Observers

  • @humphreyspellingbee1732
    @humphreyspellingbee1732 Год назад +28

    I’ve watched “Joan is Awful” and “Loch Henry,” and tbh, both of these episodes feel like they were *about to* be reflective on Netflix’s role in the media landscape, but then turned away at the last minute.
    “Joan is Awful” seemed like it was going to be a story about how tech companies like Netflix convince us to sign away our rights through legalese and apathy. I thought we were going to learn at least a little bit about how this came about and why there aren’t organizations like EFF and whatnot fighting it tooth and nail… but then, this storyline is dropped and it becomes a story about the dangers of AI. Which we somehow get told without ever hearing about the writers, makeup artists, etc. laid off… only to then get a bizarre, unnecessary twist about how this is all taking place in a simulation. (Which itself feels odd, since the show clearly sets up that the software used is basically an advanced version of ChatGPT and therefore wouldn’t be creating an alternate reality any more than ChatGPT does when it writes a story, but I digress.)
    “Loch Henry” is more explicit on this front. Netflix has played a *massive* role in the development of the true crime genre, and this episode at first seemed like it was going to be a nuanced look at how a small community devastated by a horrific crime gets impacted by a blockbuster documentary and ensuing laser-focused attention from the true crime community (not unlike how the families of Dahmer’s victims had to get retraumatized from Netflix’s show, or how the residents of Moscow, ID are still struggling with the influx of true crime fans that came to gawk after the UIdaho stabbing). But we don’t see any of that. Sure, we see Pia’s death turned into #content, but we never see how this impacts her family or the residents of Loch Henry who didn’t consent to their small town’s slew of murders being the subject of a BAFTA-winning picture.
    Overall, this season of the show so far just seems like a neutered version of its previous self. Netflix funding a show that launches superficial criticisms at its business model without ever actually engaging with any of them just feels kind of slimy to me. But you’ve convinced me to keep watching; maybe the next four episodes will change my view.

  • @carlkligerman1981
    @carlkligerman1981 Год назад +13

    Brooker is a genius IMO. He is the Phillip K Dick of television. Black Mirror may be a metaphor for our obsession with screens, but is also just that, a bleak reflection on the cultural and technological preoccupations of our time. And that’s what makes great SF in any form, it’s the best genre for examining society via plausible extrapolation of current events, social trends and technological developments. Charlie is a master of this, and does it in short form screen writing, and that has to be one of the more difficult formats to pull off well. This season was different in ‘tone’ and setting, but certainly up to snuff in terms of its thematics and quality.

  • @diquandaniel7953
    @diquandaniel7953 Год назад +225

    I'm surprised so many ppl seemed to not like the season. I enjoyed it.

    • @worrywirt
      @worrywirt Год назад +27

      I agree it was much better than the previous season

    • @rthraitor
      @rthraitor Год назад +13

      I enjoyed it but it just doesn't get me like the older episodes did. It hasn't been at top form for ages but I will agree this season was much better than 4.

    • @BigPurp9
      @BigPurp9 Год назад +6

      Definitely better than season 5 and Loch Ness and Beyond the Sea definitely left me with that icky, empty feeling that the best Black Mirror episodes do

    • @chelseangungu1231
      @chelseangungu1231 Год назад +10

      I think people just have a hard time accepting when an artist decides to experiment, but it'll grow on them, I'm sure.

    • @TheMemoryPolice
      @TheMemoryPolice Год назад +1

      I loved it. Beyond the Sea is definately my Top 5 of all Balck Mirror episodes

  • @GABEJUM
    @GABEJUM Год назад +17

    I have always grouped Black Mirror with Inside Number 9 (another British anthology show) and the new season felt more like inside number 9 than it did black mirror but I loved it. This season also felt a lot more like season 1/2 to me in its tone, a lot more grounded in a way I think started to dwindle in the seasons following. Overall this season really did bring the show I love back to life in the way I hoped it would!

    • @LarnieRadek
      @LarnieRadek Год назад +1

      Definitely felt the parallel with Inside n°9 too!

  • @Heatherlasweet
    @Heatherlasweet Год назад +11

    This is such a brilliant take. I especially love that you’ve took the time to research Charlie Brooker as an earlier creator which a lot of people who make Black Mirror video essays, don’t care to do!

  • @karlklein2263
    @karlklein2263 Год назад +6

    Nosedive absolutely talks about people losing their jobs due to social media performance. Midway through the episode one guy is fired because he broke up with his girlfriend at work and the office sided with her. His social score plummeted and he wasn't allowed back into the building. Hell the MC cant even get an apartment she wants because she isnt doing well enough.

  • @Lauraraksin77
    @Lauraraksin77 Год назад +20

    I enjoyed this entire season in the light of psychology. Human behavior, psyche, reaction--the entire psychology of the mind just interests me. This season seemed to touch up a lot on this more the the typical technology cliche.
    I don't even think Mazey Day was remotely bad because there *are* people that *do* some form of that.
    Loch Henry was also an interesting one when it comes to individuals. Pia's death was a REALISTIC situation because of how under developed people can be. Sure she probably could played it smarter but let's say she's a freshman in college-- do you think someone could process all that information and emotions when it's THE FIRST experience she'd ever had in that type of situation?
    My niece is 17 years old and I can't imagine her doing anything smart. Sorry niece but I'm just being truthful.
    Each episode gave me a perspective to see which is why I can't really put a list. I think it was all well-done.
    I did stop looking for entertainment or messages in Black Mirror season after awhile since it became a bit repetitive (not in a bad way) so season 6 did more of the human psyche which was refreshingly new.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Год назад +75

    I liked that Netflix weren't afraid to poke fun of themselves, acknowledging the flaws in their system.

    • @sumanoskae
      @sumanoskae Год назад +19

      Why would they be afraid? You watched it, didn't you?

    • @Frizzleman
      @Frizzleman Год назад

      Meta narratives sell and people want to feel like their in on the joke even multinational corporations.

    • @117mel
      @117mel Год назад +30

      i hated that. they just want to act as if they're so self-aware but actually showcase that they know but don't give a shit about changing their ways or else why would the things they're satirizing still exist?

    • @HovercraftEDM
      @HovercraftEDM Год назад +17

      yeahh i appreciate Charlie Brooker writing these critiques of Netflix, but i despise the fact that Netflix gets to essentially play both sides and come out on top. like the other commenters said, they get to make 100 Dahmers and serial killer/true crime glorifying garbage and then turn around and go wow we're so woke and self aware. it's the exact same as them hosting all these queer/women-led shows and comics while also pumping hundreds of millions dollars into chappelle and gervais specials. no values, just numbers.

    • @nickv1212
      @nickv1212 Год назад

      ​@HovercraftEDM This is late stage capitalism at its finest. It's exactly like the episode where the person speaking out about the system is given a show where he can do that all day and drive ratings. They're literally telling us that it doesn't matter what they do, we can do nothing in response and anything we attempt will just be stripped of any meaning, repackaged and sold back to us as trendy fashion statements to "say" something without anything ever getting done. Nothing to do but scream into the void until our lungs give out.

  • @squilliamwfancyson
    @squilliamwfancyson Год назад +4

    Why is nobody talking about how Demon 79 IS ABOUT MEDIA. She listened to a demon because he assumed the form of an Idol she saw and liked on TV. And notice the scene that caught my eye the most that I had to replay, where Gaap comes toward Nida who's sitting near the TV, and on the TV we can see Gaap moving towards Nida - the TV show with Boney M goes away and we can see that her mind is now playing on the TV during her encounter with the lead singer's form deceiving Nida and disarming her a million times more than it's first visual form. The demon using the visual of the famous TV star to slither into her mind to seduce and successfully corrupt her soul with all lies is a fascinating message because many people think Nida imagined it all and is crazy or that this episode has nothing to do with technology. It takes place in 1979 and could be commenting on how it got us to create parasocial relationships way back then and how we're still victim to this very arguably strategic game.
    I say arguably strategic game because let's not forget Anton LaVey wrote this in his book and established his opinion about television very well as a Satanist. "The Devil's Notebook" in 1992: "There are television sets in every home, every restaurant, every hotel room, and every shopping mall- now they're even small enough to carry in your pocket like electronic rosaries. It is an unquestioned part of everyday life. Kneeling before the cathode-ray god, with our TV Guide concordance in hand... "

  • @MrBazBake
    @MrBazBake Год назад +79

    Is the Striking Vipers ending really ominous? They're now a pansexual polycule that otherwise maintains within it a stable monogamous relationship structure. It's unusual, but I think the episode is conclusive that this is the best result and the people are happier just embracing their needs.

    • @BobDole1216
      @BobDole1216 Год назад +13

      Yeah, I felt caught off-guard by that take; maybe it's my lens as a poly person but it felt really obvious that he and his wife came clean and officially opened up their marriage with more specific parameters and boundaries and that it was positive for everyone.

    • @rev4449
      @rev4449 Год назад +2

      ​@BobDole1216 Those ideas being normalised is terrifying for monogamous people. I think men on average would be much more open to being poly if that was accepted as normal in society. While most women would not be happy about that. I said most, not all.

    • @n.a.199
      @n.a.199 Год назад +16

      @@rev4449You can’t just say “men would love to be poly” and “most women would hate to be poly” without an explanation or you sound like you’re pushing nonsense gender stereotypes

    • @rev4449
      @rev4449 Год назад +1

      @@n.a.199 I said I think. I'm not saying that's how it really is, it's just my own experience. But regardless of gender, unless it's only a portion of the population and it's a clear cut thing people are or aren't and they communicate that clearly from the beginning then it has the potential to move society at large away from the idea of monogamy which I think has a lot of positives to it. But it's a conscious decision to maintain it.

    • @rev4449
      @rev4449 Год назад +2

      ​@@n.a.199and i certainly don't think most men right now like the idea of polyamory. just that women, from what i've seen, are more likely too feel pressure towards it even if thats not what they really like. and as people age, men are more likely to want younger women than the other way around. look around.

  • @stevenclubb7718
    @stevenclubb7718 Год назад +78

    As much as I love Black Mirror (to the point I don't think there's a bad season), Brooker really only has two ideas for future tech and there both very basic sci-fi ideas. The first is to turn a person into a camera/monitor so they can interact with technology at will. The second is making a copy of consciousness. Sprinkle in AI and VR as needed and it can produce Be Right Back or Joan Is Awful or Ashley Too. Entire History Of You or White Christmas or Archangel.
    So I've never been that upset when technology isn't a huge part of the show because from the first episode it's been about people being put into an unusual scenario with often only modern day technology making it possible. It's about people and the new season scored on those fronts IMO.
    Now, if we can only get the Cunk On Black Mirror episode to make the Brookerverse a reality.

    • @kimiko2547
      @kimiko2547 Год назад

      Don't forget Barry Shizpeas too!

    • @missnoneofyourbusiness
      @missnoneofyourbusiness Год назад +3

      YES. Cunk on Black Mirror please.

    • @mollusckscramp4124
      @mollusckscramp4124 Год назад +4

      Tell me you watched an entire critically accalimed series while scrolling your phone without telling me

    • @stevenclubb7718
      @stevenclubb7718 Год назад +11

      @@mollusckscramp4124 Ah, the people who make up a fantasy about how you watched something wrong because you got something different out of it.

  • @cachacinha1378
    @cachacinha1378 Год назад +5

    Every piece of sci fi tells more about the time ti was written than about the future. I remember when Black Mirror exploded that many people around me started saying that "it's not sci fi because it's less about technology and more about society" and there was I responding "this is the sum of science fiction in general, Black Mirror is not an outlier". And at the same time, in general discussion people tend to have a very narrow idea of what is technology and forget that written language is a technology, books are technology, farming tools are technology. Technology is any tool that shapes how we arrange as a society and how we deal with the world.
    I like your analysis because it recalls to that (even though I still feel like you're describing it as a sole characteristic of Black Mirror, rather than being the characteristics that aligns this to a broader genre) and specially more because you go back to The National Anthem, because to me that episode is still the best episode they ever made. I saw a lot of people disliking it (the same people that thought "black mirror isn't sci fi, it's something better and more intelligent") stating that it's vulgar and cheap, when it's pretty much the opposite. It's very strong, yes, but it's still very clever and amazingly put with the images and different types of cameras in which they make you feel like the population in that story seeing the news.
    This last season felt a little tired to me. Not tiring to watch or old in format, but like there's a clash between the company and the writers of the show, and the creator and writers found that the critics became dull and just a format of entertaining without pivoting a change (or fueling any sort of movement in the general public). I honestly think that they wanted to create a show that brings up conversations and goes beyond that and they realized that it wasn't strong enough, at least not by itself. And honestly, this is enough reason for the pessimistic tone (and yes, I think it's generally still pessimistic). Being closer to ubiquitous tech was pretty much an obligation because many people lost the message (even when it was very blatantly in their face).

  • @neverland436
    @neverland436 Год назад +5

    Black mirror was never about evil tech. It was about how we use and exploit it to hurt ourselves and others. The bad isnt tech. Its us. Its exploitation and harm.

  • @I.____.....__...__
    @I.____.....__...__ Год назад +4

    8:03 Actually, there are already _multiple_ patents to pause ads if you look away and resume when you look back. 😒

  • @starrychan33
    @starrychan33 Год назад +26

    There is such a preoccupation with cuckoldry in Black Mirror especially in the first two seasons. Every episode of the first series and like half of the ones in the second series have some form of cuckoldry and obviously the sex in the metaverse episode also follows that theme. I don't even know what to do with that information. It's just a pattern I noticed

    • @LordOfTheFatties
      @LordOfTheFatties 11 дней назад

      It's just like when you notice how much invest is in all seth McFarland cartoons, its hard to unsee lol

  • @filippo8189
    @filippo8189 Год назад +4

    Oh my god…the transition to the ad was brutal 😂. He himself can’t break free from the system.

  • @EPMTUNES
    @EPMTUNES Год назад +5

    Awesome video! I love your analysis of shows. I appreciate when a show can manage to change something major like this for a whole season, especially if each episode is its own isolated story.

  • @arshsingh1984
    @arshsingh1984 Год назад +3

    San Junipero will always be my favorite bittersweet episode

  • @i_cedi9861
    @i_cedi9861 Год назад +13

    I will not take this Aaron Paul slander

  • @kerryntaylor4942
    @kerryntaylor4942 Год назад +2

    A world without coffee(well, limited amount of coffee) is shown in the sci-fi show Fringe. lol

  • @severdislike4222
    @severdislike4222 Год назад +7

    It's fascinating to note how close people will get to, while also going well out of their way to avoid deal with, the underlying weights that create the systems he's criticizing. That being capital in general.

  • @Radjhitoocool
    @Radjhitoocool Год назад +23

    I thought striking vipers had a happy ending they stayed married and he stopped cheating by having an open marriage

  • @MR.FREEDMAN
    @MR.FREEDMAN Год назад +3

    I completely disagree with the assessment of Aaron Paul's performance in Beyond The Sea. I was actually surprised how much I did not think about Jessie in this episode.

  • @carmattvidz4426
    @carmattvidz4426 Год назад +2

    They are right about TV teaching us to be scared of something. I work graveyard shifts in my city CBD. I spend hours on dark and empty city streets. I even walk through empty car parks after midnight. In most parts the street are safe. Nothing bad usually happens but some people still find it scary. I enjoy it and find it peaceful.

  • @Agora13
    @Agora13 Год назад +7

    It didn't. Incredible that in the dawn of the age of AI, Charlie Booker ran out of ideas and had to do 3 bad quality horror episodes. Cancellation very soon.
    Couldn't agree more on Aaron Paul tho. He did the same act on Westworld: depressed Jesse Pinkman.

  • @reesesapphire267
    @reesesapphire267 Год назад +4

    i loved Beyond The Sea, probably my fav episode out of the season.

  • @HierophanticRose
    @HierophanticRose Год назад +1

    Some of Black Mirror's most cyberpunk episodes are the episodes with least "cyberpunk" elements in them.

  • @sergeyiu2301
    @sergeyiu2301 Год назад +3

    The problem is in Netflix. They changed the BM formula to just sell the show for wider audience. The easier product to swallow - the bigger the audience. That's why we had the werewolfs and inner demons. The good question is why there were no episode about AI network and stuff? That's quite an obvious route but it would be awesome to have some BM grotesque episode on this theme.

    • @churblefurbles
      @churblefurbles Год назад

      No, to go further with its critique would be to implicate their own ideology, they must close their eyes.

  • @Roadiedave
    @Roadiedave Год назад +3

    Season 6 should be called Black Window, because we look, but we do not reflect.

  • @shpoton
    @shpoton Год назад +1

    Man, I'm so glad I've found your channel. At first, I had been looking for some content on The Wire and I found your copaganda series, and it's really cool, then I found your essays on Better Call Saul and you got me. The comprehensive analysis and amount of research you're putting into your videos are amazing. Keep it up, man, it's just a comment to promote your content

  • @donharris8846
    @donharris8846 Год назад +24

    I disagree. Black Mirror has 100% been about high technology and horror, hence, as you stated it’s namesake - “Black Mirror”, the screen that all of us are looking at right now.

    • @0x0michael
      @0x0michael Год назад +2

      Yep, ironically it brings you back to your black mirror every season

  • @draunt7
    @draunt7 Год назад +1

    U ever wonder y u get the short skippable ads while actively watching a vid vs. When you get the long ads while you fall asleep or otherwise not in front of your device? YT already utilizes your phone's camera to eye track.

  • @JJ-es9np
    @JJ-es9np Год назад +3

    Liked this series, haven’t finished it completely but the one episode that I had real problems with was Beyond the Sea, All Black Mirror stories have a logical base to them ( the ones I remember) but this one had a Major flaw,
    they would have sent the machine versions of the astronauts into space and the astronauts would have stayed on earth. The story could have still worked, if one of them was killed on earth along with his family while their consciousness was in its machine body.
    It annoyed me as BM doesn’t really have big plot holes in the writing, still a good series nice to have a change in direction.

  • @mrshadow2514
    @mrshadow2514 Год назад +2

    I don`t care if BlackMirror episodes have any technological distophian future elements. Black Mirror was about mind blowing ideas and concepts. When Brits did it, I was hooked at every single episode. Every espidoe was making you think HUH!!! at the end....since netflix took it over, nothing is blowing my mind....it is soo mediocre...

  • @danielhance1467
    @danielhance1467 Год назад +5

    USS callister was the best episode on the series

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 Год назад

      I actually the Miley Cyrus episode. I’m not a fan of hers and I was pleasantly surprised.

  • @kdandsheela
    @kdandsheela Год назад +1

    God, how do you manage to make all these videos slap so hard? I thoroughly enjoyed this

  • @kevinschili3728
    @kevinschili3728 Год назад +1

    As just some chili laying on the floor, I felt this season was a poor attempt at horror. It is missing the element of tech gone too far that captivated audiences.

  • @RaziTJones
    @RaziTJones Год назад +3

    I didn’t really care for the last season but this latest one seems really good

  • @vitoria.no.c
    @vitoria.no.c Год назад +2

    I was only able to watch some of the episodes after I starter Prozac. It is a lot.

    • @carriefingsolomon
      @carriefingsolomon Год назад

      Totally…I’ve noticed that as I made huge strides in my mental/emotional health, I don’t like super dark stuff. It makes me feel gross. That said, I love mind-bending stories…and this season offered none; just a bunch of dark, violent crap.😒 Plus Joan is Awful, which was just silly.

  • @FluxChanneler
    @FluxChanneler Год назад +1

    Yet another video that hits it out of the park. Skip Intro upload day is always a good day :)

  • @arthurdurham
    @arthurdurham Год назад +2

    I think you can make the argument about what the show intended to be but it's popularity and common themes at least felt like horror or dark stories about the dangers of technology.
    So veering off that will still feel like a huge tonal shift or change in expectations. Sometimes your art can interpreted much differently than you expect.
    But rewatching the older seasons I kind of have a hard time believing it wasn't meant to be cautionary tales about technology. It's basically most of the episodes.
    Black Mirror feels more like a brand name now than a series with a consistent voice that lost a lot of its original edge.
    They can do whatever they want with it but you can't really blame people for being dissapointed when what they were lead to expect changes.

  • @cipherbloom
    @cipherbloom Год назад

    Beautifully communicated.✨It's been about five years since we've watched Black Mirror- time to revisit old eps and finish the rest of the series.

  • @FayeFaye-
    @FayeFaye- Год назад

    Just noticed he's holding that microphone the same way that guy was holding that knife - or glass shard

  • @wingflanagan
    @wingflanagan Год назад +1

    Well, I, for one, thought _Beyond the Sea_ was the best of the bunch. It traumatized me like nothing since Brad Pitt asked the eternal question: "What's in the box?!" . I think performances were spot-on. It was very _Black Mirror._ There are so many layers that it could be used to teach screen writing. Seriously. Consider how delicately it had to be written, in order to keep the audience's loyalties shifting and suspicions at peak. It had to be a period piece or it would not have worked. Had it been set in any other era, the main characters would not have been the least sympathetic (the harrowing experiences they undergo notwithstanding). They had to be a product of their time, as they struck the fine balance between earnest love for their families and their disturbing tendency to treat them as possession instead of people. They are both endearing and yet somehow monstrous, as beneath the all-American "Right Stuff" veneer is a pit of what we now call "toxic masculinity" waiting to be exposed. It managed to foreshadow everything without tipping its hand until the last few minutes - just enough to make you sweat and squirm until the final reveal. I thought it was brilliant.

    • @remnants9974
      @remnants9974 Год назад +1

      it was rather predictable though, so the suspense mainly come from this sense of "oh no, I see where this is going" but continue watching to see if it will do something unexpected after all.

  • @amaljosephmathew2949
    @amaljosephmathew2949 Год назад +1

    I know no ones probably going to see this, but if you do, hear me out, towards the end the protagonist of the video asks what happened to hopeful sci-fi like star trek and the jetsons? A very good theoretical understanding of this shift in phenomena can actually be traced in George Simmel's Metropolis and Mental Strife when read in Tandem with Nitin Govil's: Metropolis and Mental Strife: The City in Science Fiction Cinema, the latter situates the shifts in what is called Dystopian SF and Utopian SF claiming how our very own ideas of SF relates to the West and the U.S. mostly, he traces the geneology of how the very depiction of architecture in Utopian SF went from Hopeful Futuristic Sleek Shadowless Designs (such as Star Trek and so on) and the shady, dark, futuristic city of rationality and logic (as shown in Blade Runner or Independence Day), in addition to architecture great emphasis is laid on formal anlysis such as the way camera prods and jobs smoothly in a futuristic hopeful momentia as Star Trek but prods and fits randomly as if to fit the pieces of a broken past in Dystopian SF (as in Black Mirror), although the arguments in the latter may not be as materially invested as Simmel--I think it is a great read to actually situate the influence of the 9/11 and technological amnesia that the West has commenced through it's investment in the very negative hopeless connotations of technology through shows like Black Mirror and so on (phew hope that made sense); Have A Good Day if you read this

  • @kennydolby1379
    @kennydolby1379 Год назад +2

    They are just getting creatively bankrupt, running out of ideas... Even the the first episode couldn't fully tackle the horrors of technology, but felt like a silly comedy instead.

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 Год назад +3

    The episode with the journalists reminds me a lot of Nightcrawler, which in itself could be interpreted as an episode of Black Mirror in some ways, except with a much larger budget.

  • @tacarachi
    @tacarachi Год назад +1

    Because it’s getting so close to actually happening (tech wise) they gotta let reality catch up so they experiment more in the future.

  • @kinolibby6580
    @kinolibby6580 Год назад +4

    I think Brooker's first T.V show Nathan Barley might be relevant to this discussion. At the time it just seemed like a show dunking on hipsters ruining east London but looking at it through the lens of this video I would say it's really about how legacy media was under threat from the internet. Brother and sister Dan (a journalist) and Claire (a documentary filmmaker) have their lives ruined by Nathan who owns a humour website which seems to represents all the worst aspects of the internet as it was in the early noughties.

  • @psecdocumentary
    @psecdocumentary Год назад +1

    One of the commonalities which all dystopian societies share, is that most of the people within them, do not recognize it as a dystopian society, because its all they have ever known and therefore have no other frame of reference. So for them, its the only real reality and the only way things could be, and the only way they have ever been. They don't know any better, and therefore literally can't view reality outside of that tunnel. Every one of those types of societies always implodes. All empires fall, and this is how they fall. We're in the middle of the fall of Rome, but with wifi. And thats not being pessimistic, thats just a hard truth. Human society has done this many times before, and is doing it now. Because we always seem to fail to learn from history. Again, this is not negative, its simply just true.

  • @luq7
    @luq7 Год назад +1

    thank you, this gave much needed insight and perspective on this season, which honestly puzzled me. Now I have a better view :)

  • @maykechi7752
    @maykechi7752 Год назад +1

    I think Black Mirror might be one of the first examples of a work aging *too* well.

  • @lukelee8981
    @lukelee8981 Год назад +1

    Best paid advertisement ever on RUclips.

  • @danwatts8841
    @danwatts8841 Год назад +1

    I enjoyed the season, it doesn't have the same feel as when first finding it 10 years ago but it's still great. I thought I read an article that Brooker said it was going to be the last season though.

  • @allansko2668
    @allansko2668 9 дней назад

    Great vid, Mr Intro, but I lovingly disagree with the takes on 'Nosedive' and 'Striking Vipers'. 'Nosedive' is ALL ABOUT the stresses of the ratings gig economy, extrapolating it to all of society to demonstrate just how stressful it can be. And I found 'Striking Vipers' to be one of the cheeriest episodes of the whole series; a liberation of sexuality and communication within the "traditional" relationship that led to a once-a-year ENM scenario in which everyone wins. Anyway... Keep up the good work! :D

  • @Scriven42
    @Scriven42 Год назад +1

    Wait, what's this app that makes the duck sound, I need it!!!

  • @viewagetreatmentplant
    @viewagetreatmentplant Год назад

    babe, there's nothing i like to see more than jessie being recognized for her star trek fanaticism

  • @JustAverageJeff
    @JustAverageJeff Год назад

    I didn't think this last season was that good but still my favorite show, I love this dark anthologies.

  • @JerekBilbar
    @JerekBilbar Год назад +4

    Yo. This season was ass. They didn’t even have the same writing team.

  • @themondoshow
    @themondoshow Год назад +1

    they didn't have to change. they SOLD OUT

  • @kimodejar
    @kimodejar Год назад

    Like the earlier seasons, when it was acquired by netflix, you can see the changes

  • @Littlestraincloud
    @Littlestraincloud Год назад +9

    Dude, did you seriously say "Lizard people"? Aren't you educated enough to know that's antisemetic

    • @vespertiny
      @vespertiny Год назад +2

      yeah i was shocked it feels like he should know better than that??

    • @bilge-rat
      @bilge-rat Год назад +1

      Lizard people

  • @Bertie_Ahern
    @Bertie_Ahern Год назад

    Great things evolve - I'm glad he's bold enough to explore and push new ideas.

  • @Dilligff
    @Dilligff Год назад

    The theme is in the title 'Black Mirror'. It was intended to reflect our darker natures in a manner similar to that of the more philosophical Twilight Zone episodes. Earlier seasons circled around technology a lot more because those issues are relevant to the here and now as well as the near future. This season pulled back a bit to make it more clear that the show is about human nature and not just the consequences of the technology we use.

  • @Ramiel1point0
    @Ramiel1point0 Год назад +2

    Could not possibly disagree more re: Aaron Paul. Dude's subtle acting cues were incredible.

  • @sigrid9699
    @sigrid9699 Год назад +2

    I remember watching one episode of black mirror and it having this just awful taste to it that put me off the whole series
    I could NOT tell you what episode it was cause it was so many years ago,
    but it gave me this unpleasantly intense feeling of having neurotic genx/boomer anxieties directly streamed into my brain
    really didn't like it

    • @StamesJevens
      @StamesJevens Год назад

      Probably the national anthem, it’s one of the weirdest decisions in television’s history, to make that the pilot episode for a whole series

    • @sigrid9699
      @sigrid9699 Год назад

      @@StamesJevens I dunno
      I don't remember anything about pig fucking, it was some stupid episode about social media that just felt incredibly contrived

  • @Hollowdude15
    @Hollowdude15 11 месяцев назад

    I like how the black mirror is inspired by the twilight zone and great video man :]

  • @mattmolloy636
    @mattmolloy636 Год назад +1

    It didn’t have to change, nor were they really trying to change. They simply made content that people didn’t like, which was clearly apparent when they thought adding an entire episode around Miley Cyrus.

  • @8020drummer
    @8020drummer Год назад

    8:35 he was also a mass murderer

  • @callumager537
    @callumager537 Месяц назад

    I wonder if they’ll tackle the odd rise of moustachioed, glasses wearing men who like to wear tropical shirts in their video essays in a future episode.

  • @nickmartin3647
    @nickmartin3647 Год назад +1

    Netflix definitely did it's thing

  • @rylans.5365
    @rylans.5365 Год назад

    I really don’t know how people are so confused or saying that the show “changed”. The show went back in the past many times. Also, people are missing the point that we are basically living in the society that black mirror depicted years ago, so it makes sense that people aren’t finding it sci-fi nor dystopian, when in reality the show still follows that same premise when exploring parallels and different quantums

  • @TheCommunicationCoach
    @TheCommunicationCoach 7 месяцев назад

    Demon 79 was hilariously ridiculous, only saved by Papa Esidu's great Boney M. performance. I love it when he asks, "Am I a clown? Is this what passes for a clown here? I can work with, but..." LMAO Beyond The Sea was just sick and awful, dragged out way too long with a character that was stupid to let his space-mate use his avatar at all. I'd have ended the mission right then by ending him!

  • @wmhilton-old
    @wmhilton-old Год назад

    Oh god that segue into the sponsor sent me. Black Mirror level dark haha.

  • @mykalesalad
    @mykalesalad Год назад

    Honestly beyond the sea was my favorite episode from the new season

  • @Qwitsoender
    @Qwitsoender Год назад +1

    Hard disagree. Every single episode in this season still has some kind of technology at its core. And Black Mirror has ‘always’ been about how ‘we’ go wrong, by misusing or misunderstanding the consequences of technology, not about how the technology messes us up. It’s always been about a ‘mirror’, not a trap.
    What if… what if… ‘people’ have changed their relationship to technology (and streaming) some more since 2019, and ‘that’ is why it ‘feels’ different? Just a thought.

  • @dvidsilva
    @dvidsilva Год назад

    Going back to the present and time also reminds us that technology has already been here, people seemed to have lost their amusement and given up to things that we can change.

  • @thomaskopv2366
    @thomaskopv2366 Год назад +2

    Thats cool and all, but what good does it do if the episodes are just... well, boring ?

  • @Zaflon
    @Zaflon Год назад

    To me Brooker can't put a foot wrong. Everything he's done has in some way been thought provoking and innovative. I like your video essay, it echo's a lot of my own thoughts.

  • @luizmonad777
    @luizmonad777 4 месяца назад

    8:24 oh he would, that guy was a monster, he would be worst than corporations, he would sell children to be slaves on factories if he could.

  • @kellyloganme
    @kellyloganme Год назад

    I think it's great to highlight the media critique of Black Mirror! Fully agree.
    I had a different take on the video game episode though. I saw this as a video game offering a way out for relationships that were being stifled by restrictive cultural norms - more importantly showing that there are options that allow honest and accepting people to live slightly outside the lines of cultural norms without having to upend their lives completely. I think it's important to show a range of options are possible with love and trust.

  • @luizferrarezzi
    @luizferrarezzi Год назад +2

    I dont mind the lack of technology but I think supernatural stuff doesnt fit Black mirror that much

  • @Radien
    @Radien Год назад

    Big Joel did an entire video criticizing Black Mirror for seeming to have no message beyond “Technology Bad.” I haven't seen the newer seasons you're talking about, but removing the futuristic tech for some episodes seems like a pretty effective way to prove that they have something beyond that to say.
    And besides, ANY screen could be a black mirror. The most literal difference is that older screens used to be more grey.

  • @KINGCedric95
    @KINGCedric95 Год назад

    I'm sold, I love your video essay I've subscribed!

  • @Itsgay2read
    @Itsgay2read Год назад +98

    I notice that the Black Mirror creator is a bit out of touch because he blames "the inherent evil of humanity" (a very doomerist take) instead of realizing the capitalism that drives these fucked up technologies in his own stories.

    • @badconnection4383
      @badconnection4383 Год назад +16

      Who do you think built capitalism? We did. So you can't blame the system and look the other way in terms of its creator.

    • @FieldMarshalFry
      @FieldMarshalFry Год назад

      Charlie Brooker is, like any self respecting and self hating Briton, a miserable git who basically gets through the day on a combination of snark and pints or beer

    • @DanyelAzamor-lh7yg
      @DanyelAzamor-lh7yg Год назад +30

      ​​​@@badconnection4383 idk you but im sure you did not invented capitalism. u cant say humans are inherently evil because some people created a system... you can say a system is inherently bad...

    • @accaliawolf2903
      @accaliawolf2903 Год назад +14

      @@badconnection4383 who is "we"?

    • @aj7058
      @aj7058 Год назад +12

      Right? Because he's served by it. He can see it but never actually understand it and that's the gap.

  • @Desnes7
    @Desnes7 Год назад

    guillermo del toro's cabinet of curiosities, especially the viewing episode was more black mirror than black mirror.

  • @DMusicLove0910
    @DMusicLove0910 Год назад

    To me this season was like taking a trip to get ice cream but coming back with pudding instead