Tourneau 1950s Bumper Movement Vintage Watch Restoration
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Marshall gets his hands on a restoration project for a friend: his late grandmother's Tourneau bumper movement watch that was given to her as a wedding present when she got married in the 1950s. This is a charming little watch but it won't run continuously and it requires some cosmetic care as well. Join Marshall as he dives into another project!
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I'm so happy I found this channel. I know next to nothing about watches, but that means I learn something new every time. You're an excellent storyteller, keep it up!
Nice job... I like you man...
I find watching him do the work relaxing.
@@johngormley2192 shure...
Yeah he forgot his blonde
You have inspired my brother and myself to become watchmakers. Thank you, Sir. You have truly changed our lives.
Shut up
@@eagleeagle5739 are you jealous of him?
@@foo2hp reason for it?
@@foo2hp "Shut up" has several different meanings or context in english.
good for you
My Mom and her 3 brothers gave their mother an Elgin watch for their mother's 50th Wedding Anniversary in October of 1970. My Mom got it in 1984 after her mom passed away. Fast forward and my Mom died in 2018. In 2021, we settled her estate and I asked for the watch. I had it worked on (twice) and gave it to my cousin. The watch is a keepsake from our grandmother and my cousin is highly appreciative of it every day! It looks brand new. The crystal was in perfect shape and it runs perfectly and it is now almost 51 years old.
Found your channel on my recommendations and was inspired to give watch making a try and now I have successfully fixed up an old pocket watch. Seeing it start to run and keep time was an awesome experience so for that thank you. keep doing what you’re doing.
Hey Marshall it's so nice to see you enjoying something other than Magic the Gathering. You have such an intriguing voice and your commitment and humbleness to your hobby are awesome. We love and share your enthusiasm and your joy.
You just amaze me how you can remember how to put these watches back together., especially when springs are flying all over.
And you call yourself an armature, I cannot stop watching your videos there are so additive. Keep them coming there very interesting
to watch. Keep on ticking
"amateur"....but we knew what you meant.
Just got my Lord Elgin from 1950 back a week ago, been digging it. Love seeing watches from 1960 and earlier get a second lease on life.
They have survived all through these years and still can be used… Incredible. Vintage watches always make me smile when I'm wearing one or even just looking at it.
Wow, that is the exact same movement that is in the Juvenia my father purchased while in the Navy in WWII. When I was young, he'd show me how you could feel the auto-wind mechanism bounce off the springs if you rocked it back and forth in your hand. Guess that was a feature of the bumper movement.
Funny thing is, two well respected Seattle watchmakers decided they couldn't take on the job of restoring it to working condition, while a third younger guy you may know took on the task and did a great job of it. Looks as if you, too, aren't afraid of a challenge. Well done and much appreciated.
Risk vs reward. The older established watchmakers have a reputation to protect. If they accept the job and fail then that is a large risk vs the reward of completing a single job. Plus they are "comfortable" with their position in the industry and the cookie-cutter projects they work on.
Voice, delivery, video skill, repair skill. You have an excellent RUclips channel sir.
It’s been really cool watching you improve. Even little things like picking up pieces of the watch when compared to your first few videos is much better. Absolutely love the channel. Keep it up.
My grandfather (now deceased) specialized in fixing watches besides being a farmer. We have several of his parts and antique watches he worked on. I enjoy watching the process of working on watches. I have a new appreciation for his craft.
I thought watchmakers had gone the way of the TV repairman, but I am happy to find watchmakers are alive and well. I have a digital watch that is very accurate and reliable, but mechanical watches have a heartbeat and a soul.
Great way to put it, quartz vs mechanical.
Really glad you did this. I have a E Borel Super Autosport with an early bumper movement. I have never worked on a bumper. I'm not as experienced as you are, so having disassembly and assembly, step by step is priceless. Thanks again!
You are a fine mechanic. Problem solving skills are the most important. Im thrilled to see that you solved an unfamiliar problem. Thats a top-notch mechanic. Cars or watches, skill is skill! Im impressed.
Marshal…I have listened to you tell us how you started…BUT…your abilities, while learned…revolve around pure natural talent.
Just discovered this channel. I don't know jack about watches, but it's interesting and very soothing to listen to. I watch it before bed almost every night.
I'd love to know what kind-of watches you actually wear day to day.
I have been watching these videos one after another for about the past week. I love getting an up close look at what it takes to make a watch run.
I love your narration of your videos. Your humility shows. After all, what you are doing is enough to humble any sensible person. Mechanical watch movements are truly marvels of mechanical engineering at a macro or sometimes microscopic level. I have dabbled with mechanical movements since I was a kid, but not nearly to your level. I do like fine woodworking though and have built a few guitars. Patience and stubborned determination is certainly a virtue, especially in watchmaking. I am watching and enjoying all of your videos as well as others in the links you provided. Thank you.
Marshall and his amazing skill makes for total compulsive watching. Thank you Marshall.
No pun intended by the way.
Came out great, glad that we got to see our friend red stick. Cant wait for the next appearance of canon pinion remover tool :p
I've read that perlage circles & Geneva stripes are there not just to look nice but also to catch & trap dust & other particles so they don't find their way into the works.
When the watch oils weren’t as advanced as they are now they were placed to keep the oil in place. With the advanced synthetic oils we have today they are useless. They look nice though!
@@DutchClawz those perlage patterns are not anywhere near the oil. The oil is held by the geometry of the bearings be it Ruby or steel back in the day they already had things like epilame or neosurf but as a primitive version probably
Also... Usually watches where cleaned whole and just oiled assembled
the Geneva stripes were there to make sure the original bridges went on the original watch. As these stripes always differ, you can see if a bridge has been replaced because the lines of the stripe will not match exactly.
@@pipodorologio1648 that's another reason yes, but some movements have bridges that aren't on the same height (usually balance bridges) so these can have a difrent finish and look "wrong"
The circles.... I have seen on the bolts of bolt action rifles. In that case I believe that it's to make sure things DON'T mesh so the rifle doesn't get stuck. Keeps that coarse surface profile so things stay seperate and the bolt continues to open freely even under higher power loads.
Wow just the other day this guy had 385k now hes at 401k way to go Marshall! I still won't ever repair a watch but I love watching these for some reason. Does anyone else do this?
Just when I think I've seen enough watches, you come up with something new. So nice and shiny after washing.
Excellent video, as always. Your videos got me into watch repair and making and I'm currently working on restoring my first watch ✌️
I am glad that you have shown the repair of an actual bumper automatic. I own a wrist watch that was my Dads that has an 75 yr old AS 1250 bumper automatic that still runs good for its age. It is 1946 Election G.P . I would definitely trust your workmanship with antique watch movements of any sort.
My man Marshall, thanks for being casual, informative, knowledgable, and so much else wrapped in a easy to learn segment and hear the things my watch guy, MAD rabbit, would often say about the spirit of watchmaking. The feels of bringing them to life again and watching its inital heartbeats, knowing you learned to do that. Thank you for being a wonderful teacher. Much love from Minnesota. Watch on!!!
I have experienced this problem with watches of this vintage running for some time and then stopping. I will try this fix and see if it works on one of my projects. Thanks Marshall for helping us watch enthusiasts resurrect these wonderful heirlooms.
Never knew those bumper movements even existed! There you go, learned something else from your videos. Thanks!
love the hyper close up of all the jewels and you working them with your tools!!
I'd love to see you re-lume the dial numbers! Maybe in a color that matches the vintage wear of the rest of the dial.
Amazing. The patience involved is beyond me.
Honestly it is so amazing as to how many intricate parts comprise a watch. It's like the parts never end, and they are so tiny!
21:22
"they were born for the air, so you have to be careful"
*immediately bumps into the movement *
love you man, never change
Wow, the end result is beautiful. Love the way it came out. I'd be proud to wear that as an heirloom.
Make sure to use a molybdenum grease on the barrel walls that the slip spring slides on. That is a two piece mainspring and the old school slip can be problematic. May be the reason for the low amplitude
Nice work, sir. Good diagnosis and a workable solution. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it certainly revived your friend's grandma's watch. That's the fun of these sorts of project. I have a Leroy watch from my great-grandpa and a dreaded Timex with their "un-serviceable" movements to tackle this summer. Love watching your videos.
I love watching the cleaning machine spin up. It's a such a zen moment.
great little dial, fascinating movement; all coming together in a piece with real history
I love the way the straps match the dial!
Lovely watch that you fixed (stopping)
The best shots could be after all the parts are laid out clean.
Sir, many thanks
There is just something about the NATO strap on that watch.... Love it... I hope the family kept it.
It is a very nice looking watch. I'm always amazed at how something with such well-defined elements seems to evoke so make esthetic choices that are genuinely striking.
What I do for cleaning dials is I suspend them in a glass of water and drop a 3 minute Polident tablet in and let it gently remove the dirt. I have done it many times, even on a Rolex dial with the printed film and it didn’t hurt anything. It freshened up the dial pretty good.
12:30 wooooow incredible shot, beautiful placement, love your work and your videos, greetings from Chile!
YOU ARE AMAZING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE , KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MARSHALL.
Thank you for all of the wonderful videos. They are both entertaining and serve as a great reference for newbies to the "sport" like me.
Excellent narration, enjoyable, informative, and what a bonus, the reassuring manner of the Lockpicking Lawyer.
What a great outcome. This piece has that vintage look that so many companies try to create with their reissues.
I miss the sound of the spring going in the barrel.
I really enjoy the videos. Keep doing them please.
14:02
Fascinating....I've watched a few others that work on watches on RUclips. I like your style. Learned so much...like Bumper Movement!
Nice!!! I have never seen a bumper style rotor. Thanks for that. Very interesting. You have worked on some of the strangest pieces, and been very successful in getting them to run. Kudos sir.
So relaxing to watch and listen, great job. Thank you.
That NATO band really matches the dial. Great call!
Great color combo between the strap and dial details. Nice!
I like, that you did not overrestore the watch!
Some are so far done, rechroming and they put a new dial on and ot looks like a new watch. Closer to one of the chinese reproductions.
I hear Marshall's voice and I know I'm home 🏡
😂
Love your "Willy Nelson" very layed back vibe. Did miss the barrel spring service, seeing the delicate release and rewinding of the mainspring is most satisying.
At 7:00 the cops showed up when they heard that you almost lost the hair sized spring. Either that or you took the tag off your mattress.
Youre being really brave with that radium dial.
Most underrated watch channel. You are literally an asmr channel to me
I love your philosophical ending statement! Thank you very much for sharing all the detailed work, I appreciate the amount of effort you put into this and I learn a lot.
Great job. Once again you have brought the dead back to life. Thank you
Hey Marshal! It’s amazing to see how fluent you have become with disassembly. The hours you have put in are really starting to show. Especially on an un-familiar movement!
As a filmmaker, I have only one suggestion for your top-down Sony A7III..
The macro lens you are using has a deep depth-of-field. You seem to have the aperture of the lens wide open at f2.8.
Which will look great, but sometimes, when you zoom in on the footage, the out-of-focus areas seem to be accentuated too much.
I would suggest aperture values like f4 - f5. It may dim the scene a bit, but you will get CRISPY focus across the entire view.
Closing the aperture like this increases the focus plane, but lets in less light (compensate by increasing ISO).
P.s. - this is not a big issue, and not even a flaw. But with your drive to improve, I guess such a small tweak to the camera would help bring out more detail. Just do a little bit of trial and see if it works for you. Cheers and thank you for the continual inspiration from your channel. Cheers!
That was really lovely feedback. Helpful but not critical. Nice job Srirang Dhawale.
Hey Marshall. Ive watched just about every video you have at leaste twice i have always wanted to be a watch maker you have made it very understanding im to old to start now but i do enjoy your channel i believe you ar a professional now i realy do enjoy more ive watch others but i like you best.
Watching this channel made me realize that I have 4 wristwatches just laying in a drawer, and funny enough not a single one of them work! Time to order up some tools it seems, try my hand at getting em up and running
Really nice vintage bumper and patented too....nice job
This intro was very energetic, caught me a bit off guard. Loving your channel
Looks super. Your attention to detail is incredible, love a perfectionist.
Love the channel. Would love to see more of the diagnosis stage when you find some of the issues.
I’m new to the channel and absolutely love it!!!! Your ethos also reminds me a lot of art conservation since that’s essentially what your doing with watches and I’m so excited to support u Patreon now too :)
Marshall that tourneau bumper watch is an amazing watch and a pleasure to watch you rebuild😎👍🏻✨
Thanks :)
I learnt something.. Spring bar and lug. Thank you.
I like the technical term "little springy thing".
Wonderful watch that, well done on such a sympathetic restoration bud!
No,Thank you. As a turner machinist, for 45 years, love the machining it takes, to make a watch. Love your fitting, skills, hahaha.
I loved the vid and am amazed to see videos where watches are torn apart. The scale and complexity is amazing. Also, your voice is spot on for a Magic the Gathering content creator I follow and it is very disconcerting lol.
Well damn, you are the same Marshall. I didn't see the video info mention a Marshall and didn't know you had an interest in watches as well. Awesome and subscribed!
You know, I was thinking "I bet that pesky cannon pinion might be too tight" at the beginning. Great catch, and very nice result on this one!
Exzellente Arbeit, wie immer,.
Eine Freude zu sehen 🌟
A discussion of the different kinds of crystal and their features, benefits, and detriments would be interesting.
I love to watch what you hv done. I ve Election grand prix berne 1914 ladies watch 20 micron. Yr explaination about old antique watch how to care for them is very useful. Thanks.
Amazing work....im learning loads.
Nice work! You really made that old watch look great.
I think you should improve the beat error. Check online for info and videos.
I can watch you and the nekkid watchmaker work all day and take notes and photos because this is really like the dream hobbies or career to get into... out of interest what watches do you wear when you service/restore these watches ( do a wrist watch check in your next restoration please)😊⌚🤙
This watch is so pretty, and so dead. I can't wait to see what you'd make of it.
Great job !! I wish they had wanted case done.
I’ve got a Seiko 3169 (I think that’s the model) automatic with chronograph and separate single minute dial, and it was my uncles and I remember distinctly as a kid in the late 70s early 80’s playing with the stop watch buttons every time he came to our place, and when he got a new watch he gave me that watch and I still have it 40 years later! So I totally get it, a watch can be very sentimental.
12:30 What a shoot! Nice! Nato type strap is good, safer choice consider the one lug have some damage.
Good restoration
Thank you for your videos. They encouraged me to attempt to repair and adjust two of my watches. My first ever warch that I bought with my first earned money and a watch my wife bought me when she was a single mom on a budget. Both are running great now 🤩
darnit these are addictive. well done. again.
Lve the videos u kick ass on those Beautiful watches you restore keep up the good job 👍 😊
The stepless case is a timeless design used for watches of virtually every price point from 1930s to mid 50s. Stainless steel (everbrite) was a new material and needed expensive machines and a level of expertise when it first came onto the market. Stepless cases were almost always made from Stainless. I do have one Doxa (1945) example that does have a base metal stepless case but they are very uncommon. The most desirable Patek (565) is worth more in Stainless than 18k gold. The watch you have here was a mens watch and more than likely is a 28.5 diameter. Not a juniors nor a women's watch but the common case size for WWII Military uses.
In the 50s I'm pretty sure that was a men's watch...maybe it was her husband's...great video as usual, always learn so much.
Great video...beautiful little watch...good job.
Lovely timekeeper
Commenting now but I can't wait to dig into this one, love the detail in your videos!
I like the bezel-less case.
I enjoy your videos. I strongly recommend purchasing an inexpensive Geiger counter for pieces like this. I made a brief video on my channel that shows how wildly varying the radioactivity can be. All radium dials and hands will shed radioactive dust all over your bench, and these particles present an ingestion hazard. Stay safe!
How would one go about cleaning up said radioactive dust in a safe manner?
you should do little reaction videos for when you return it and they could tell a little story about it.
Auguste Raymond movement. Noble guts .