As a parent of 2 kids and know of 2 kids who are no longer with us because of online social media bullying, I’m so glad this rule is in personally. I’ve spent hours and hours trying to find ways to lock and restrict social media use and block loop holes and it’s a nightmare. I don’t know what the answer is either, but at this stage with what i’ve seen as a parent this seems like a good idea. But on the other hand, I see your point as an outlet and using it for good, but I think the negative use and online bullying probably outweighs those benefits. It’s definitely a tough one.
It truly is a very tough one, I’m very aware of the culture around social media and how it does drive some youth to that breaking point where they make a permanent decision. With that said, youth will still find a way around it, I know from back in the day, when they would block social media sites in school, we would all setup proxy servers, and then VPN’s when they were new to us, but the internet has grown a lot since then. Also the scary part is with kids no longer allowed on the surface apps, it means they’ll go deeper into the internet and that in itself may present issues.
@@JamieToomeyPresentsI agree with you. My parents didn’t let me have social media growing up yet I was still relentlessly bullied and excluded at every opportunity possible by my peers and classmates. It’s hard to know if social media would’ve made it better or worse but as you said… bullying always finds its way
I dont have kids and i'm super anti government/restrictions but this one makes sence to me. My country has had talks about banning porn without ID and at first i hated that idea but the more i think about it. May be for the best. When i was young there was MSN and Myspace and now things are so different.
Damn I guess use a connection that is strictly ethernet only to 1 computer or even put the wifi only on your phone. Write down the password to the modem, hide it away and scrub out the password on the modem so your kids won't use it.
Thats not an internet problem. Parents are too busy working jobs to look after their kids properly, then outsource the care of their children to the government, who has ulterior motives to just raising your kids to being productive members of society. Most of the parents are either uninvolved in their kids lives for the most part or are helicopter parenting.
I think the age should be lowered. Like maybe 8 or thereabouts. Personally I don’t think a 4 year old or 7 year old needs to be on social media. Just my 2c.
There is absolutely not reason an 8 year old should be on social media. It concerns me that you think there is somehow some actual justification for that.
I actually agree with it. I grew up in a time before social media and internet connections being everywhere and I can genuinely see how allowing kids access to social media from a young age can have serious impacts on their development and mental health. I struggled enough with face to face bullying at school, I can't imagine how bad things would have been if I was getting harassed online outside of school as well. The fact of the matter is that social media really has been far from a net positive for humanity, if anything it's made us less tolerant and more hostile towards each other. All that said, the ban won't work. Kids will find a way around it.
While I agree it feels like a quick and extreme decision, the current state of the internet and social media has been an absolute detriment to kids as a whole. And the fact that you imply kids will be removing themselves from the world if it’s taken away says a lot about how addicted society is to it.
According to NBC News, officials plan to enforce the cut-off by trialing an age-verification system that could include biometrics identification. Did they say how they will implement that identification?
Nope, there’s been little to no details on how this will work or how it’ll be implemented, and now it’ll be implemented in one year as the law has now passed.
The only mental health consequence to banning social media is FOMO. Grow up a little then you can help yourself to all the Corn, liquor, smoking and social media you want once you become a responsible adult.....There is no damage here.
The social media ban doesnt even address the corn industry or gambling or any of the highly dangerous and illegal activities. This is an attempt to gag the kids and prevent them from sourcing information outside the mainstream TV/newspapers. And to force adults to use Digital ID which is a step towards China's social credit system. The fact so many people cannot see they are selling their kids freedoms away to make a totalitarian dictatorship state that controls every aspect of your kids lives and your lives.
Social media can expand and limit the views of people. I think it depends on the particular sites. There's a real risk to children getting caught in echo chambers and growing up maladaptive to the very real demands of the adult world.
Kids will always find a way around things. People in general will find ways around things. Laws are always meant to be broken. Having said this, I personally hate social media and have never had any desire to swim in the swamp of social media. This is probably just another feel good law with no teeth. I really don't see how you could possibly enforce this.
An overreacting measure for a simpler problem. Instead of going the hard way through education to teach kids about addiction and control they do this which won't work.
They've been trying to educate children about the dangers of addiction for decades. Funnily enough, we still have addicts. Telling a kid not to do something doesn't work, but apparently neither does trying to "educate" them. I can almost guarantee you did things you were told not to do, or that were potentially risky.
@@seanmckelvey6618 Telling adults not to do something doesn't work either. They're not supposed to be talking on cell phones while driving as an example, but you see it all the time. It's human nature whether your young or old.
So does the gambling industry and modern AAA video games. Dark Psychology. But this bill doesn't address any of that. Which means they dont actually care about the kids, it's about control.
@Rexhunterj good things kids can't legally gamble and usually don't have jobs and need parental consent to purchase the troubling ones lol it's an unregulated shit show which is fine for a 16 year old well into the development of their prefrontal cortex
I can see why it’s a good idea because of cyber bullying and other things but it is against free speech I feel sorry for my future children and nephews and nieces through social media and almost being banned until they turn 16
It's a bad idea. You can literally turn your phone/computer off and leave the room. You cannot leave the school or office you are being physically bullied in. Social media being to blame couldn't be further from the truth, the blood of children is on their parents hands, they didnt do enough to protect their kids and now rail at the government to strip away MY freedoms for a Digital ID.
As a parent of 2 kids and know of 2 kids who are no longer with us because of online social media bullying, I’m so glad this rule is in personally.
I’ve spent hours and hours trying to find ways to lock and restrict social media use and block loop holes and it’s a nightmare.
I don’t know what the answer is either, but at this stage with what i’ve seen as a parent this seems like a good idea.
But on the other hand, I see your point as an outlet and using it for good, but I think the negative use and online bullying probably outweighs those benefits.
It’s definitely a tough one.
It truly is a very tough one, I’m very aware of the culture around social media and how it does drive some youth to that breaking point where they make a permanent decision.
With that said, youth will still find a way around it, I know from back in the day, when they would block social media sites in school, we would all setup proxy servers, and then VPN’s when they were new to us, but the internet has grown a lot since then.
Also the scary part is with kids no longer allowed on the surface apps, it means they’ll go deeper into the internet and that in itself may present issues.
@@JamieToomeyPresentsI agree with you. My parents didn’t let me have social media growing up yet I was still relentlessly bullied and excluded at every opportunity possible by my peers and classmates. It’s hard to know if social media would’ve made it better or worse but as you said… bullying always finds its way
I dont have kids and i'm super anti government/restrictions but this one makes sence to me. My country has had talks about banning porn without ID and at first i hated that idea but the more i think about it. May be for the best. When i was young there was MSN and Myspace and now things are so different.
Damn I guess use a connection that is strictly ethernet only to 1 computer or even put the wifi only on your phone. Write down the password to the modem, hide it away and scrub out the password on the modem so your kids won't use it.
I am American, but my view is such things should be the responsibility of the parents, not the government to handle.
I never had Internet until I was 13 and personally I'm quite happy about that because I got to play outside with friends.
You rarely see kids in the street these days. We grew up playing outside and picking berries. Kids need to experience life with less internet.
Thats not an internet problem.
Parents are too busy working jobs to look after their kids properly, then outsource the care of their children to the government, who has ulterior motives to just raising your kids to being productive members of society.
Most of the parents are either uninvolved in their kids lives for the most part or are helicopter parenting.
I think the age should be lowered. Like maybe 8 or thereabouts. Personally I don’t think a 4 year old or 7 year old needs to be on social media. Just my 2c.
Why does an 8 year old? They can just use Gmail If they want to talk so badly.
There is absolutely not reason an 8 year old should be on social media. It concerns me that you think there is somehow some actual justification for that.
Maybe a console that doesn't involve internet until they're 13-15.
I actually agree with it. I grew up in a time before social media and internet connections being everywhere and I can genuinely see how allowing kids access to social media from a young age can have serious impacts on their development and mental health. I struggled enough with face to face bullying at school, I can't imagine how bad things would have been if I was getting harassed online outside of school as well. The fact of the matter is that social media really has been far from a net positive for humanity, if anything it's made us less tolerant and more hostile towards each other.
All that said, the ban won't work. Kids will find a way around it.
It's not about the children, it's about control.
While I agree it feels like a quick and extreme decision, the current state of the internet and social media has been an absolute detriment to kids as a whole. And the fact that you imply kids will be removing themselves from the world if it’s taken away says a lot about how addicted society is to it.
Kids always had a way out thru sport, hanging out with friends before social media.
According to NBC News, officials plan to enforce the cut-off by trialing an age-verification system that could include biometrics identification. Did they say how they will implement that identification?
Nope, there’s been little to no details on how this will work or how it’ll be implemented, and now it’ll be implemented in one year as the law has now passed.
Anyone who trusts a social media website with their biometrics is going to have a rough time.
It really is an impactful decision made so quickly. I suppose we'll see how it pans out, personally i don't think well.
The only mental health consequence to banning social media is FOMO. Grow up a little then you can help yourself to all the Corn, liquor, smoking and social media you want once you become a responsible adult.....There is no damage here.
The social media ban doesnt even address the corn industry or gambling or any of the highly dangerous and illegal activities.
This is an attempt to gag the kids and prevent them from sourcing information outside the mainstream TV/newspapers. And to force adults to use Digital ID which is a step towards China's social credit system.
The fact so many people cannot see they are selling their kids freedoms away to make a totalitarian dictatorship state that controls every aspect of your kids lives and your lives.
Social media can expand and limit the views of people. I think it depends on the particular sites. There's a real risk to children getting caught in echo chambers and growing up maladaptive to the very real demands of the adult world.
Kids will always find a way around things. People in general will find ways around things. Laws are always meant to be broken. Having said this, I personally hate social media and have never had any desire to swim in the swamp of social media. This is probably just another feel good law with no teeth. I really don't see how you could possibly enforce this.
Amen brother!
An overreacting measure for a simpler problem.
Instead of going the hard way through education to teach kids about addiction and control they do this which won't work.
They've been trying to educate children about the dangers of addiction for decades. Funnily enough, we still have addicts. Telling a kid not to do something doesn't work, but apparently neither does trying to "educate" them. I can almost guarantee you did things you were told not to do, or that were potentially risky.
@@seanmckelvey6618 Telling adults not to do something doesn't work either. They're not supposed to be talking on cell phones while driving as an example, but you see it all the time. It's human nature whether your young or old.
What? You somehow think that if kids went back to normal emails like how Hotmail use to be, that would be some sort of crisis?
They might have saved a generation... these social media apps employ top notch psychologists and addiction experts to get maximum engagement
So does the gambling industry and modern AAA video games. Dark Psychology.
But this bill doesn't address any of that. Which means they dont actually care about the kids, it's about control.
@Rexhunterj good things kids can't legally gamble and usually don't have jobs and need parental consent to purchase the troubling ones lol it's an unregulated shit show which is fine for a 16 year old well into the development of their prefrontal cortex
I can see why it’s a good idea because of cyber bullying and other things but it is against free speech I feel sorry for my future children and nephews and nieces through social media and almost being banned until they turn 16
It's a bad idea.
You can literally turn your phone/computer off and leave the room. You cannot leave the school or office you are being physically bullied in.
Social media being to blame couldn't be further from the truth, the blood of children is on their parents hands, they didnt do enough to protect their kids and now rail at the government to strip away MY freedoms for a Digital ID.
Dont censor yourself. Use the word Suicide when you’re talking about kids killing themselves.
RUclips will take down his video because they believe that censoring discussions about the topic will prevent it for some reason...
Probably will be demonitized which is fair enough.