That is absolutely correct concrete concrete will not have a discharge effect on batteries even the "cold" of the concrete will not, the temperature sink of the concrete will help keep the battery temperature stable and therefore it will last longer
Ok here's the skinny on battery discharge .it has to do with dirt and dust on the battery between polls and humidity. The salts create a trace for small static discharge. Store I dry cool place...
Should be a dial on the side of the wand to adjust sensitivity, or some way to adjust the sensitivity of the toner. You want the sensitivity to be just enough to get tone on one wire only. If you are getting tone on several wires than sensitivity is too high.
Yes! I go through fist fulls of alarm and CAT 6 wires when I lose the identity of one or more. Lower the sensitivity of the probe and pick through the loom to find the loudest signal on the wire or cable's insulation, first. Generally, it will be the loudest signal on the bare end as well. Least usable sensitivity is the key to any of them! As I'm watching the video, you're starting to get the hang of picking the right conductor.
Glad you took our advice. You are not doing anything wrong. Sometimes you will have crossover impedance. No one tool is the perfect tool for every occasion. Each has its place. The fox and hound should help save some time. Keep after it. Oh, and I appreciate your humor, even if your workers don't. :-)
Hey Jimmy, going flying tonight for the first time in a decade. Flying a 310 from KANE to Chicago, then back. Can hardly wait. You're certain to be a topic of conversation. Keep up the exceptional work.
I'm sorry to disappoint, but as happens so often in flying, plans change. Our flight was given to a pilot who needed more flight hours this week. I'm sure they'll be more. Can't wait to see Jimmy's next adventure.
Jimmy in the early days (up until the late 1950's) batteries cases were made from bakelite and they would drain thru the bakelite since the 60's they use plastic and they don't drain hope this helps, from a retired mechanic
Just wanted to say to the Vet with one leg. Even though my amputation was not USAF service connected it is still a BK amputation it does slow me down but doesn't stop me. I still restore old cars, mow 1.5 acre of grass each week, drive my truck. I did climb ladders, not recomended, but at 82 I don't do that now. But if we put our mind to it we can do most things we want to. Waiting now for a hip, and both knees replacements, already had both shouders replaced. Just hang in there and keep on keeping on.
You probably won't see this but wanted you to know your videos inspired me to get a job at a local airport at a flight school. I will also be attending the school as soon as I have enough saved up to get my self in the air. Thank you so much for making these videos. I never thought I would ever end up where I am now, it's a dream come true.
The tone generator works on two wire systems. I've spent tens of thousands of hours in telecom cabinets tracing pairs. If you don't have the generator connected to two wires, you're just going to get interference. If everything has a common ground, tracing single wires with an Ohm meter / continuity check is by far the fastest and least error prone. You already knew. 🤣
The only problem with checking wires with an ohm meter is that you’ll get continuity with a single strand of wire, where when you go to move an electrical load you won’t have the wire actually able to carry the load. That’s why voltage drop is a far superior way to check for continuity. Not always possible but it’s the best way.
Never occurred to me lol well I took mine back to ace hardware way back when. Wish I knew what you just explained to me then lol. Well got my job done the hard way. Thanks for the knowledge 🤙🏻
@@clear-the-prop I had that drilled into my head by my electrical teacher in automotive school for 2 semesters. I prefer a Power Probe 3 over any meter these days. It has a ground lead to check for simple continuity and you can Probe a circuit at any point to see the actual voltage and thus the drop any find corroded or damaged wiring and connectors easily. It’s also easy to check circuits and components by applying power and ground directly. Can’t say enough about how great this tool is. It’s a multimeter on steroids.
I should also explain why two wire works better in this case. Expecially with twisted pair. As the tone generator output is two sides of a transformer, one wire will be 180 degrees out of phase from the other. . By feeding both down a twisted pair, the signals are canceling eachother out for the most part. You will hear a slight tone when close to the wire as the phasing isn't perfect in the wire. Remembering a wire is a series of inductors with paralleled capacitance. As we are now in impedence land, it matters. When the signal reaches the end of the pair, their spereation will remove the superposition, and the tone can be heard at a higher amplitude. For a final test short them together so the tone goes away. But I suppose you're just shorting out the transformer in the generator.
Tom and Willie have it---That Fox and Hounds thing is for 2 wire systems. Bur some simple LEDs, attach alligator clips to a few. Clip one end of each LED to every wire that might be the one you want. Clip one end of a battery (alligator plip again) Ground the other ends of the LEDs and the battery. Which ever LED lights up is the one that is connected to the battery. If more than 1 LED light up, these wires are connected, either on purpose or by accident, either the way it was be when the plane was built or the way someone thought it should be after it was modified. If you have half a dozen LEDs as above, it should help!
Jimmy, thank you for your channel. I’m a retired Air Force Senior Master Sargent (27 years). I’m about to start working on a barn find 1963 Cessna 172D. Never got my A&P but will get help as needed. Watching your channel gives me hope. Please keep them coming. Mark Chancey, Belton SC.
if you use alligator clips to ground the wire to the airframe he can check continuity between wire and airframe in the cabin. no extension cord needed because you’re using the airframe as a wire.
Leaving ‘gofundme’ is an awesome good move, as a lot of people just lost their trust and want to stay away from it. Love your videos. Good job Jimmy!👍🏻
I earned my degree in Automotive Technology back in the 90s, and we didn't have the "fox-'n-hound" apparatus then; we did wiring the same way you and Sparky are doing it, which worked just fine. It just took a while. At least if we got a wire wrong, we didn't have to worry it causing us to fall out of the sky (Yikes!). You guys are an inspiration to all of us frustrated airplane mechanics who don't know a thing about airplanes but wish we did! God bless and "Clear Prop!"
Your always kool to watch and as a Vet myself, your a brother as well. Thank you for your service, and thank you for your kind thoughts regarding our brothers and sisters who need a little help in life, due to their service to this Great County of ours. God Bless brother and keep the videos coming.
The myth stems from when battery casings were made from rubber as far as I remember. Modern plastics are highly insulating (e.g electrical resistance. Not thermal). Lead-Acid batteries hate being not-fully-charged which is why you should keep them hooked up to a trickle-charger if you leave them sitting around.
Heard that one when I lived up north. Was told the battery does not like the cold and the concrete floor can pull the heat out of the battery. Have not thought about it now I live in the south😊
@@user-fr3hy9uh6y That is exactly what I was thinking. As a heavy equipment mechanic I've never heard of this myth but I immediately thought that sitting on concrete it would cool the battery and kill the battery efficiency. Try sleeping on an air mattress on a concrete floor. You'll be looking for a new place to sleep very quickly.
Heat and vibration are the killer off flooded batteries. The reason people think it’s cold that kills the battery is only because the mechanical parts because the oil is thicker and makes the starter draw more amperage from the battery
Jimmy, watching you guys working on the plane brings back memories, not all fond ones, from early Air Force days working on F4 aircraft. I just loved working wiring. I believe a couple of other folks have already commented on the Fox and Hound "bleed over". With the amount of wring running together in such tight confines, it would be very tough to get the exact wire identified with that type tone generator tool. The tones are generally some type of square wave from 600Hz to around 2KHz and most of the wiring is not RF shielded ending up in a lot of bleed over. I agree with you and sparky that a continuity tester/multimeter and a LONG piece of wire work great but can take a while. Thanks for your videos and bringing back some fond and not so fond memories of spending 12 hours crawling though an F4 trying to find the break point on a wire. Dave
Had my first MRE recently. Mad Props to our troops that have to rely on those on a regular basis. They make way bigger sacrifices for us but even the small sacrifices need mentioned. MRE aren't all that bad and in sure when it's all you got they taste even better. Thank you for your service and another great video!
I had used a 200EP inductive amplifier (Probe) in conjunction with a 77HP Tracer 2 unit for many years when I was employed in the audio field before I retired. The 77HP Tracer 2 I used has both a tone function and a continuity function. If you were to find a wire with the loudest tone you generally had the correct wire. However, the tone is induced in wires in close proximity giving false positives. By using the probe to find the wire with the tone you can verify the wire using the continuity method. If your unit (tone generator) is capable of a continuity test simply place the generator in the continuity mode attach one of the leads from the generator to the wire in question add a test wire which you will hook onto the other end of the wire you have located outside the plane and bring the other end of the wire into the cockpit attach the remaining lead from the generator and the light will light up confirming you have indeed found the correct wire. The added wire that I mentioned can be used from any wire on the outside to the cockpit to confirm continuity.
I have spent a lot of times on similar wire messes. At the end of the day I have generally found it is easier and faster to rewire. And yes I have all the tools.
Same here... just run new wires, color coded would help as well... especially something like this where you don't know the quality of the wiring in the system.
Jimmy...Disconnect the Batteries! Connect the Ground of the Fox to the Frame of the Plane, then the other Wire of the Fox to a Wire you want to Search. Then just Scan across the Bundle of Wires with the Hound. The Loudest Wire is the one your looking for.
I recommend using a power probe. Usually used in automotive repair. You can check power and ground audibly, visually, and supply power and ground as you wish with toggling a button on the probe.
Jimmy, get yourself a proper ratchet crimp tool with dies for the electrical connections. It exerts the correct pressure and forms the crimp properly. 👍
Nothing beats a straight continuity check with a basic digital multimeter. That's how I did it in the AF on A-10's and HH-60's. Quick and easy with NO doubt.
38 years in Telco Industry with C&P Telephone, AT&T, Lucent Technologies and Avaya Inc. we use tone generators and an induction probe to trace wire pairs in small and huge wire bundled cables, sometimes running for miles. Your on top of it now !!!
Keep in mind that using a wire tracer in an application like that can be very frustrating, I may help some but for it to be effective use it in continuity mode so the tone changes after a short. Something else that would be good for that application would be a power probe
Jimmy, I love the videos! I’m a retired Marine flying out of KVDF. I’d love to come help you all doing mechanical work, not looking for any publicity, I just love aviation.
Hey Jimmy and co. fantastic progress you guys are making. I don't know about lithium batteries, but sitting a lead core battery on concrete or even the ground directly, will absolutely kill the battery. What's more, it will only take about 3 discharge/charge cycles before you end up with a dead cell. Hats of to everyone helping. I about fell out of the chair when I watched the video that revealed the switch panel's wiring in tatters. I've been there before restoring a 1983 Jaguar XJ6. None of the electricals were connected. Stay positive guys.
To get rid of the mouse smell. Wash the offending areas with Vinegar, mentholated spirits, a squeeze of dishwashing liquid with some vanilla essence added. Using an old towel cut up into usable sizes and ring out lightly. Not dripping wet but wet enough to wipe the areas down. Then wipe off with the dry pieces of towel. Ratios are: 600 ml Vinegar, 200ml Mentholated spirits, small squeeze of dishwashing liquid and a desert spoon of Vanilla essence. That should give you a pleasant and fresh smell to the cabin.
Jimmy, back when I was looking to build multi engine time, i spent 2 weeks flying missions with a charitable organization called Skyark We flew a 1956 piper geronimo all over the USA transporting rescued dogs, cats, and even an iguana to their new adoptive homes. It was the adventure of my lifetime, and you can imagine tying grassroots aviation, with some of the nicest, most interesting people you will ever meet. This had the animal interest, human interest, and aviation adventure all rolled into one. It also provided a way for new multi engine pilots to gain valuable flight time flying on missions. Let me know if you have any interest in using mighty mouse on such a purpose.
Another great episode! While I am an electrical engineer and have no problems understanding schematics and electrical components, I'd probably end up crying in the corner of the hanger curled up in a little ball if I had to deal with all of the wires being disconnected in your 310. Your persistence in tracking down the wires in any method and making the connections by the book will save lots of trouble and headache in the future and keep the plane safe. Also pretty cool you will be donating some of the 310's time to charitable causes. One day some one in need will say "here Might Mouse comes to save the day."
Believe it or not this is the only channel I comment on! As a veteran I see this doing so much good to help our fellow vets attain transportation to hospital’s in different areas. I have a friend who lives in Utah and had to travel to Greenbay Wi for a surgery. Luckily I was living in the area and was able to help him out. If there was a way to transport him for cheap or free would have helped him. He had to pay his way to and from then wait to get reimbursed. that was a lot for him since he is totally disabled and medically retired. Now this was about 15 years ago. Thank you for all you do. Keep the 310 alive.
So, my father bought a battery for his truck when it was having trouble starting, then couple of family emergencies later that day, the truck for an entire year ran on the old battery. The new one, much to my chagrin, sat on the garage floor the entire year cause my dad didn't believe the discharge story I told him from some salty fisherman I worked with. Well, when the old one does finally die, the newer battery that sat on the ground for an entire year started the truck no problem. I know, I'll get someone who says that's impossible, but I swear it, couldn't forget the timing due to the family emergencies. But that sure enough happened, so take what you want from it.
Fill up the bladder with destiled water and leave it for 24h,after that dump the water wait to dry out.Use rubbing/denatured alcohol in small amounts to evaporate rest of the water inside. Ps small amounts and very short time.Hope this helps.
Love your show and passion for Aviation. I noticed you wear your watch when climbing on your planes, buy this is a prohibited practice on military flight lines. I've seen what happens when a ring catches on protruding metal and screws. . A friend lost 1/2 his ring finger when he jumped to the ground. No big deal except he left part of his finger hanging on the airplane. Same goes for watches. Stay safe...CLEAR!
The grime that tends to build up on a battery can cause a small voltage drop across the top of a battery slowly draining it. You can test this by using your multimeter set to volts dc. One lead on a post and another lead on the top of the battery. Should read 0v if not it needs a cleaning.
Regarding sitting batteries on concrete. At one time this was absolutely true. Early car batteries were made with cases made out of rubber which is slightly porous. If you left a car battery sitting on concrete it would slowly leak and stain the concrete and also the acid would form a ground that would drain the battery. Once the housings began to be made of plastic this problem went away.
Hi Jimmy great work on the wiring, it can be very frustrating when its not going well. So kudos to you and your team for sticking with it. re labelling, you can get dymo printable heat shirk now, that would make identifying cable ends easier in the future, just print the item name on a label and heat shrink that on to the ends (along with the terminal number). Its a job to do all the harness from scratch, but as your in there anyway now is a great time to get the labelling sorted. I hope that helps, take care D
For the switch board you might as well just connect LEDs to each one and send a low voltage from the other end, that way you identify which switch corresponds to that system
Hi Jimmy, as a qualified aircraft electrician and engineer, ditch the fox and hound devise. Go and buy a test lead specifically for providing the return path, they are available on a coiled reel. Then simply use a continuity tester, far more reliable and repeatable. Next suggestion, don’t label the wires with masking paper tape, use a label maker, black text on white tape in a small font, The labels will resist fuel and water, won’t fall off and are far more professional looking and tidy. Regards, Steve from New Zealand
The best thing would be to give disabled kids the thrill of their lives and take them on a light plane ride over their homes or school. They are very important members of the community that are not remembered enough.
Those wire sniffers are great for twisted pairs, they don't work as well on a single wire with common ground. Though they're still extremely useful where you have no idea which wire in the bunch that you're trying to find. To use it, hook the generator to the wire under test at the known end (IE the fuel pump, light etc) and then move the reciever across the bunch at the other end a listen to the volume. When you get the right wire the volume will increase. Often with single wire tracing you'll get a couple of wires that signal pretty well, especially where those wires are run next to each other over some distance. Once you have the right wire, or a couple of wires, confirm it with the continuity tester. If you're only tracing to a bunch with half a dozen wires it's going to be quicker to just continuity test from the start, but if your end point is 50 wires all in a bunch the sniffer will help you narrow down which of them you want to continuity test very quickly.
There is another problem to be aware of with the reasonably priced Fox and Hound sets. They work on 5 volts. This is fine for things like your airplane where most of the system is 12 volts, however when you get into sensors and network applications, that high a voltage can blow equipment (specifically network switches and network cards). For what you are doing, that fox and hound will rock! For more sensitive work, you might want to look at a device like the Fluke Intellitone 200 (about $300). This unit works on millivolts and should not damage life equipment plugged in while you are testing.
@@millardiii Nah, that's nonsense, network card and switch magnetics are rated for 2500V insulation so you're not going to damage one with a 1KHz tone at 5V, nor can a tone generator on a fox and hound source enough current to fry the magnetics either.
I hope you guys labeled each wire you identified to save future headaches. I'm a big fan of printable heat shrink tube, it will never fall off. And no, modern batteries don't discharge on concrete. That came from back when batter housings were made of wood.
Yeah the hound dog tool works but you have to listen very closely to determine whether a wire is just close to your signal or it's the actual wire your signal is coming down, it takes a bit of practice but the tool can be very effective. Especially if you have trouble figuring out where the wire is going. I like both tool's but the power probe 3 kit is my choice for the ultimate wiring problem solution
The power probe kits having the ability to give any circuit a ground or voltage and having 20 ft long leads. So that means 20 ft in one direction and 20 ft in another direction. Mainly be used in automotive field that's likely why their not longer because car's and truck's are typically only that long.
As an electrician, I have used these to track cables in walls to see where and what circuits they're going. Also it just gives you a rough idea which cables to begin probing..
the "Bell" tool is invaluable for roughly eliminating almost all wires in a loom the longer the wires run together the more they cross connect and the louder the adjacent wires are, always run a decent current like a test light 5 watts or so at 12v as that is the only thing that tests the wire
Jimmy this is actually a pretty good suggestion. The problem you are seeing of course is induction from the alternating current jumping into parallel wires, I used a similar tool 20 years ago chasing network cabling, but in your case with so many lines running in parallel the voltage is induced onto parallel lines. Sparky oughta be able to rig this up quick, it is basically your VOM without the extension cord and higher amperage to eliminate doubt. Consider mounting say 8 D or C cell batteries (8 x 1.5v = 12v) in series on a small board with 2 leads with alligator clips. At the outboard end clip ground to the airframe and positive to your suspect wire. At the spaghetti end (the terminal block) rig a small flashlight lamp with leads, one to the airframe and one by one touch the suspect wires. That lamp should light up brightly no question.
@@KurgerBurger This is what I would do as will. I have worked aircraft wiring and spacecraft wiring since 1964 and I see many things on this plane that makes my hair stand on end. If you want to fly this plane and keep it in the air you need to do it right the first time. Send Jimmy a drawing of your continuity tester.
Step one...always have the toner (fox) set to 2 tone mode! It should sound like a "deedle deedle deedle" kind of sound. Makes it much easier to distinguish from background interference. Secondly, place one lead from the toner to the aircraft ground, and the other to the single wire you are tracing. Third, you will need to learn how to distinguish the lead you are tracing, from the bleed over signal you can get from parallel wires. The primary lead will be considerably louder, but you have to learn that. Fourth, the sending unit should have a high and low power setting. If you are getting a lot of signal bleed over, turn the power down. Fifth, if the line you are tracing is grounded, or shorted to the second wire you have connected to the transmitter, the signal will be almost non-existent, very low, almost not readable with the signal tracer. I've been using this type of wire tracer for over 3 decades, and they do work, but they are not magic. You need to learn how to use it. That won't take long, but learning how to use it is critical.
Hey guys, try to use different frequencies, also reduce the tone volume, and when approaches the wires touch them using the tip of the tool, and look for the wire which gets the louder tone, because the wires closer to the right one also will have tone, but the right wire gets a louder tone. Good luck! Reny
The battery discharge on concrete thought comes from the old days when batteries were made from paper. It is completely safe to keep batteries on concrete now, it will not cause them to discharge any faster.
Jimmy, I have used the fox and hound for a long time and it is great for longer wires. For short stuff like that, I do not ground the black lead, I just use the red lead to hunt. It keeps it unbalanced, and the difference in loudness is more detectable. Using the frame as a return makes the whole aircraft a radiator. As a wanna be pilot, I love your videos and mission.
Addicted here too jimmy, 310 rescue missions for paws dogs sell over the place need homes. Serious medical taxi for appointments...ya, what else, disaster deliveries.....maybe a sports team cheerleader drop off....skip the dishes, or how about aviation for girls stuff. They do that up here to get young girls thinking aviation careers later on after school.
I've actually tested that battery myth. I put one of my batteries on concrete and one in a box on my welding table. Over the time frame of 2 months they both lost the same amount of juice. Sitting and age is what kills batteries, also temperature has a lot to do with a batteries life.
How resilient is the insulation on that old wiring? Looking at those spaghetti monsters, I can't help but feel trepidation at impending shorts and subsequent electrical fires. 😱
Jimmy, Check out Power Probe. Its a common tool used in automotive 12 and 24v troubleshooting. Not an approved tool to use in most aviation applications due to them being a little more delicate avionics wise. I think for what you're trying to do it would work great.
Hi Jimmy, greetings from Argentina. As an G. aviation enthusiast, I follow either your progress as well as Jason´s 401 and I enjoy them both. At the end of your presentation you asked us what kind of mission "Mighty Mouse" should have, and I´d like to drop a suggestion: since you and several others envolved in this task are military retired personnel, my idea splits in 2: giving veterans the chance to travel easier and faster with the 301 and giving young pilots the opportunity to build some flight hours when neither of the group can do the flight. I guess sometimes vets can´t stand long hours in buses or waiting in airports, so a direct point to point with the 310 will help them go to their destination faster and more comfortable. This idea came up to me after I saw a Marc Patey´s video in witch they flew from NYC to Utah in a private plane faster than an airliner. I just hope I diddn´t suggest some nonsense. Cheers from NE Patagonia.
Long time since I did this kind of work. Your new toy is almost like the tools the phone company used to use to chase circuits. Best bet is the old standard continuity testing. (B-47's, B-52's, KC-135's, and even A-4's before switching to tractor trailers and smaller planes like your 310.)
You can use chassis ground on one side and the wire your tracing. My fox hound has a attenuation dial to increase signal receiver to help determine which wires in the bundle are bleedover vs. actual signal.
as a technician, i feel im qualified to say that cheap wireless tools like that are garbage, just use the multimeter and tone everything out. itll be the quickest and easiest way to do it
Tech tip about those 4 wires at the tuna tank, with the connectors, have the wires that are coming out of the wing have different connectors, ie for the fuel pump, they can have the female connector while the light could have the male connector, that way if it is disassembled again, it will be quicker to know which is which instead of labels.
Great job showing and telling, keep up the good work on that 310 plane. Yes I love those plane’s , I painted or helped get them ready to paint. Back in about 1981 or 1982 it was fun well see ya next time see ya bye.
Holy crap. I'm curious as to the end game here. I'm a yacht captain and watching this gives me the chills. If it were a boat I would elect to strip the boat and sink it. Even if there is a day that this plane is airworthy, there is no way I would ever fly in it, let alone buy it as a used plane. Especially considering all the footage of the ongoing repairs. Keep the mayday checklist handy if this thing is ever ready to fly.
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Batteries do not discharge on concrete. Years ago battery cases were porous and they did discharge. Thanks for the great work
This is correct. Old habits are hard to break.
That's not what grandpa said, lol
That is absolutely correct concrete concrete will not have a discharge effect on batteries even the "cold" of the concrete will not, the temperature sink of the concrete will help keep the battery temperature stable and therefore it will last longer
Ok here's the skinny on battery discharge .it has to do with dirt and dust on the battery between polls and humidity. The salts create a trace for small static discharge.
Store I dry cool place...
@@mh9002 your a clown
Should be a dial on the side of the wand to adjust sensitivity, or some way to adjust the sensitivity of the toner. You want the sensitivity to be just enough to get tone on one wire only. If you are getting tone on several wires than sensitivity is too high.
Yes! I go through fist fulls of alarm and CAT 6 wires when I lose the identity of one or more. Lower the sensitivity of the probe and pick through the loom to find the loudest signal on the wire or cable's insulation, first. Generally, it will be the loudest signal on the bare end as well. Least usable sensitivity is the key to any of them! As I'm watching the video, you're starting to get the hang of picking the right conductor.
I’m an electrician, CONTINUITY is everything.
My Professor loved that word.
Great choice making the change to givesendgo.. no other way to tell the man he's wrong as WE THE PEOPLE won't stand for it.. Great Job jimmy!!
I don’t have a pilot’s license but watching your channel makes me want to!
Go for it!
Ironically..... it makes me glad I DON'T have one 🙂
Go for it! Its the most enjoyable and rewarding way to blow loads.of money.
Hearing the pump kick on put such a big smile on my face. Can't wait to see her in the air after all this.
Major props for dropping gofundme. They have proven they cannot be trusted to be impartial and trusted with money.
Glad you took our advice. You are not doing anything wrong. Sometimes you will have crossover impedance. No one tool is the perfect tool for every occasion. Each has its place. The fox and hound should help save some time. Keep after it. Oh, and I appreciate your humor, even if your workers don't. :-)
Hey Jimmy, going flying tonight for the first time in a decade. Flying a 310 from KANE to Chicago, then back. Can hardly wait. You're certain to be a topic of conversation. Keep up the exceptional work.
Have fun!
Love to see a pic of your 310 at chi town love the 310👍
RIP.
Tell us if you make it.
I'm sorry to disappoint, but as happens so often in flying, plans change. Our flight was given to a pilot who needed more flight hours this week. I'm sure they'll be more. Can't wait to see Jimmy's next adventure.
KANE is just a few miles down the road from me!
Jimmy in the early days (up until the late 1950's) batteries cases were made from bakelite and they would drain thru the bakelite since the 60's they use plastic and they don't drain hope this helps, from a retired mechanic
I did not know that. Thanks for the info!
Just wanted to say to the Vet with one leg. Even though my amputation was not USAF service connected it is still a BK amputation it does slow me down but doesn't stop me. I still restore old cars, mow 1.5 acre of grass each week, drive my truck. I did climb ladders, not recomended, but at 82 I don't do that now. But if we put our mind to it we can do most things we want to. Waiting now for a hip, and both knees replacements, already had both shouders replaced. Just hang in there and keep on keeping on.
You probably won't see this but wanted you to know your videos inspired me to get a job at a local airport at a flight school. I will also be attending the school as soon as I have enough saved up to get my self in the air. Thank you so much for making these videos. I never thought I would ever end up where I am now, it's a dream come true.
That is awesome!
The tone generator works on two wire systems. I've spent tens of thousands of hours in telecom cabinets tracing pairs. If you don't have the generator connected to two wires, you're just going to get interference. If everything has a common ground, tracing single wires with an Ohm meter / continuity check is by far the fastest and least error prone. You already knew. 🤣
The only problem with checking wires with an ohm meter is that you’ll get continuity with a single strand of wire, where when you go to move an electrical load you won’t have the wire actually able to carry the load.
That’s why voltage drop is a far superior way to check for continuity. Not always possible but it’s the best way.
Never occurred to me lol well I took mine back to ace hardware way back when. Wish I knew what you just explained to me then lol. Well got my job done the hard way. Thanks for the knowledge 🤙🏻
@@clear-the-prop I had that drilled into my head by my electrical teacher in automotive school for 2 semesters.
I prefer a Power Probe 3 over any meter these days. It has a ground lead to check for simple continuity and you can Probe a circuit at any point to see the actual voltage and thus the drop any find corroded or damaged wiring and connectors easily. It’s also easy to check circuits and components by applying power and ground directly.
Can’t say enough about how great this tool is. It’s a multimeter on steroids.
I'm really enjoying this project. Help veterans and veteran's organizations!! That's what it should be used for. Great job guys.
I should also explain why two wire works better in this case. Expecially with twisted pair. As the tone generator output is two sides of a transformer, one wire will be 180 degrees out of phase from the other. . By feeding both down a twisted pair, the signals are canceling eachother out for the most part. You will hear a slight tone when close to the wire as the phasing isn't perfect in the wire. Remembering a wire is a series of inductors with paralleled capacitance. As we are now in impedence land, it matters. When the signal reaches the end of the pair, their spereation will remove the superposition, and the tone can be heard at a higher amplitude. For a final test short them together so the tone goes away. But I suppose you're just shorting out the transformer in the generator.
Eight hours to trace four wires ... that is real dedication for you and your friends.
It's like watching a trainwreck unfold before my eyes. I can't seem to look away.
Tom and Willie have it---That Fox and Hounds thing is for 2 wire systems. Bur some simple LEDs, attach alligator clips to a few. Clip one end of each LED to every wire that might be the one you want. Clip one end of a battery (alligator plip again) Ground the other ends of the LEDs and the battery. Which ever LED lights up is the one that is connected to the battery. If more than 1 LED light up, these wires are connected, either on purpose or by accident, either the way it was be when the plane was built or the way someone thought it should be after it was modified. If you have half a dozen LEDs as above, it should help!
Jimmy when you gonna fly out and help clean up the 401? Love to see a Collab between y'all! Always love your content
Thanks so much! That would be fun!
I thought I was the only person that wanted that to happen.
The 401 guy is too much drama for me I’d much rather watch jimmy !
The problem with C-401's is they are under powered. If you loose an engine on takeoff the other one will take you to the scene of the accident.
Jimmy hook the black ground to the frame and red lead to the wire your looking for you will get the stronger tone !
Oh my God ! Wiring "I Hate It " GOOD LUCK ! 🥶
Jimmy, thank you for your channel. I’m a retired Air Force Senior Master Sargent (27 years). I’m about to start working on a barn find 1963 Cessna 172D. Never got my A&P but will get help as needed. Watching your channel gives me hope. Please keep them coming. Mark Chancey, Belton SC.
if you use alligator clips to ground the wire to the airframe he can check continuity between wire and airframe in the cabin. no extension cord needed because you’re using the airframe as a wire.
I was just about to convey the same thing
I concur 😊
That is true.
If you stick a racoon up your recktum your gunna have a bad time
Leaving ‘gofundme’ is an awesome good move, as a lot of people just lost their trust and want to stay away from it.
Love your videos. Good job Jimmy!👍🏻
They should rename it to "Go f@#% me".
I earned my degree in Automotive Technology back in the 90s, and we didn't have the "fox-'n-hound" apparatus then; we did wiring the same way you and Sparky are doing it, which worked just fine. It just took a while. At least if we got a wire wrong, we didn't have to worry it causing us to fall out of the sky (Yikes!). You guys are an inspiration to all of us frustrated airplane mechanics who don't know a thing about airplanes but wish we did! God bless and "Clear Prop!"
Your always kool to watch and as a Vet myself, your a brother as well. Thank you for your service, and thank you for your kind thoughts regarding our brothers and sisters who need a little help in life, due to their service to this Great County of ours. God Bless brother and keep the videos coming.
It doesn't matter if a battery is sitting on wood, concrete or steel. The reason a battery dies is from sitting.
The myth stems from when battery casings were made from rubber as far as I remember. Modern plastics are highly insulating (e.g electrical resistance. Not thermal). Lead-Acid batteries hate being not-fully-charged which is why you should keep them hooked up to a trickle-charger if you leave them sitting around.
Heard that one when I lived up north. Was told the battery does not like the cold and the concrete floor can pull the heat out of the battery. Have not thought about it now I live in the south😊
@@user-fr3hy9uh6y That is exactly what I was thinking. As a heavy equipment mechanic I've never heard of this myth but I immediately thought that sitting on concrete it would cool the battery and kill the battery efficiency. Try sleeping on an air mattress on a concrete floor. You'll be looking for a new place to sleep very quickly.
Heat and vibration are the killer off flooded batteries. The reason people think it’s cold that kills the battery is only because the mechanical parts because the oil is thicker and makes the starter draw more amperage from the battery
Jimmy, watching you guys working on the plane brings back memories, not all fond ones, from early Air Force days working on F4 aircraft. I just loved working wiring. I believe a couple of other folks have already commented on the Fox and Hound "bleed over". With the amount of wring running together in such tight confines, it would be very tough to get the exact wire identified with that type tone generator tool. The tones are generally some type of square wave from 600Hz to around 2KHz and most of the wiring is not RF shielded ending up in a lot of bleed over. I agree with you and sparky that a continuity tester/multimeter and a LONG piece of wire work great but can take a while.
Thanks for your videos and bringing back some fond and not so fond memories of spending 12 hours crawling though an F4 trying to find the break point on a wire.
Dave
Wow, that VFR map is really cool :)
Had my first MRE recently. Mad Props to our troops that have to rely on those on a regular basis. They make way bigger sacrifices for us but even the small sacrifices need mentioned. MRE aren't all that bad and in sure when it's all you got they taste even better. Thank you for your service and another great video!
I had used a 200EP inductive amplifier (Probe) in conjunction with a 77HP Tracer 2 unit for many years when I was employed in the audio field before I retired. The 77HP Tracer 2 I used has both a tone function and a continuity function. If you were to find a wire with the loudest tone you generally had the correct wire. However, the tone is induced in wires in close proximity giving false positives. By using the probe to find the wire with the tone you can verify the wire using the continuity method. If your unit (tone generator) is capable of a continuity test simply place the generator in the continuity mode attach one of the leads from the generator to the wire in question add a test wire which you will hook onto the other end of the wire you have located outside the plane and bring the other end of the wire into the cockpit attach the remaining lead from the generator and the light will light up confirming you have indeed found the correct wire. The added wire that I mentioned can be used from any wire on the outside to the cockpit to confirm continuity.
I have spent a lot of times on similar wire messes. At the end of the day I have generally found it is easier and faster to rewire. And yes I have all the tools.
Same here... just run new wires, color coded would help as well... especially something like this where you don't know the quality of the wiring in the system.
Was thinking the same thing.
@@jimc12 me too!
I was thinking the same thing! Is it much more expensive to run new wires?
So glad to see you switch to givesendgo. As for the battery, I think it's an old wives tale that sitting on concrete is bad.
Jimmy...Disconnect the Batteries! Connect the Ground of the Fox to the Frame of the Plane, then the other Wire of the Fox to a Wire you want to Search. Then just Scan across the Bundle of Wires with the Hound. The Loudest Wire is the one your looking for.
I recommend using a power probe. Usually used in automotive repair. You can check power and ground audibly, visually, and supply power and ground as you wish with toggling a button on the probe.
Jimmy, get yourself a proper ratchet crimp tool with dies for the electrical connections. It exerts the correct pressure and forms the crimp properly. 👍
Can check Ham Radio Outlet in Orlando for a crimp set
@@dave-wk4t Or "SkyCraft"
@@johnmccorquodale6406 - Crack for radio folks
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll check it out and step up my tool box!
Nothing beats a straight continuity check with a basic digital multimeter. That's how I did it in the AF on A-10's and HH-60's. Quick and easy with NO doubt.
38 years in Telco Industry with C&P Telephone, AT&T, Lucent Technologies and Avaya Inc. we use tone generators and an induction probe to trace wire pairs in small and huge wire bundled cables, sometimes running for miles. Your on top of it now !!!
Keep in mind that using a wire tracer in an application like that can be very frustrating, I may help some but for it to be effective use it in continuity mode so the tone changes after a short. Something else that would be good for that application would be a power probe
Jimmy you inspire us all to have fun and really learn to accept challenges. THANK YOU!!
Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
Jimmy, I love the videos! I’m a retired Marine flying out of KVDF. I’d love to come help you all doing mechanical work, not looking for any publicity, I just love aviation.
Hey Jimmy and co. fantastic progress you guys are making. I don't know about lithium batteries, but sitting a lead core battery on concrete or even the ground directly, will absolutely kill the battery. What's more, it will only take about 3 discharge/charge cycles before you end up with a dead cell. Hats of to everyone helping. I about fell out of the chair when I watched the video that revealed the switch panel's wiring in tatters. I've been there before restoring a 1983 Jaguar XJ6. None of the electricals were connected. Stay positive guys.
Always look forward to the new videos! Thank you Jimmy for sharing. Clear Prop!!
Glad you like them!
@Jimmys World - Help kids with her last wishes. There are so many who lifes only for another 3 or 4 month. That would be a SUPER HERO mission.
To get rid of the mouse smell. Wash the offending areas with Vinegar, mentholated spirits, a squeeze of dishwashing liquid with some vanilla essence added. Using an old towel cut up into usable sizes and ring out lightly. Not dripping wet but wet enough to wipe the areas down. Then wipe off with the dry pieces of towel.
Ratios are: 600 ml Vinegar, 200ml Mentholated spirits, small squeeze of dishwashing liquid and a desert spoon of Vanilla essence. That should give you a pleasant and fresh smell to the cabin.
Hey Jimmy great job and the rest of the crew on the 310. Love what you doing
Thanks so much!
@@therealjimmysworld 'Can I get a clear prop' DJ Jimmy mix is the way to go.
Jimmy, back when I was looking to build multi engine time, i spent 2 weeks flying missions with a charitable organization called Skyark
We flew a 1956 piper geronimo all over the USA transporting rescued dogs, cats, and even an iguana to their new adoptive homes. It was the adventure of my lifetime, and you can imagine tying grassroots aviation, with some of the nicest, most interesting people you will ever meet. This had the animal interest, human interest, and aviation adventure all rolled into one. It also provided a way for new multi engine pilots to gain valuable flight time flying on missions.
Let me know if you have any interest in using mighty mouse on such a purpose.
Another great episode! While I am an electrical engineer and have no problems understanding schematics and electrical components, I'd probably end up crying in the corner of the hanger curled up in a little ball if I had to deal with all of the wires being disconnected in your 310. Your persistence in tracking down the wires in any method and making the connections by the book will save lots of trouble and headache in the future and keep the plane safe.
Also pretty cool you will be donating some of the 310's time to charitable causes. One day some one in need will say "here Might Mouse comes to save the day."
Believe it or not this is the only channel I comment on!
As a veteran I see this doing so much good to help our fellow vets attain transportation to hospital’s in different areas. I have a friend who lives in Utah and had to travel to Greenbay Wi for a surgery. Luckily I was living in the area and was able to help him out. If there was a way to transport him for cheap or free would have helped him. He had to pay his way to and from then wait to get reimbursed. that was a lot for him since he is totally disabled and medically retired. Now this was about 15 years ago.
Thank you for all you do. Keep the 310 alive.
Really enjoying your adventure with the 310. I've learned more watching your videos than I did with the 4 planes I owned!
Glad you like them!
I am so addicted to your channel, and I'm not really a plane enthusiast! Can't wait to see the 310 flying! Keep up the good work, Jimmy!
Me too
I'm the same. Never really been into planes but I've been watching him since he got this one and can't wait to see his first flight
So, my father bought a battery for his truck when it was having trouble starting, then couple of family emergencies later that day, the truck for an entire year ran on the old battery. The new one, much to my chagrin, sat on the garage floor the entire year cause my dad didn't believe the discharge story I told him from some salty fisherman I worked with. Well, when the old one does finally die, the newer battery that sat on the ground for an entire year started the truck no problem. I know, I'll get someone who says that's impossible, but I swear it, couldn't forget the timing due to the family emergencies. But that sure enough happened, so take what you want from it.
310 is a wonderful airplane . Worth all our time and support Jimmy . Juan Browne just had a wonderful series featuring his 310 .
Fill up the bladder with destiled water and leave it for 24h,after that dump the water wait to dry out.Use rubbing/denatured alcohol in small amounts to evaporate rest of the water inside.
Ps small amounts and very short time.Hope this helps.
Keeping a battery off of the concrete, was an issue in the old days of rubber base battery cases.
That's right but now days, it's not a problem. The cases provide better insulation.
Yeah it was the old batteries that had wood bottoms the concrete would drain
Love your show and passion for Aviation.
I noticed you wear your watch when climbing on your planes, buy this is a prohibited practice on military flight lines. I've seen what happens when a ring catches on protruding metal and screws. .
A friend lost 1/2 his ring finger when he jumped to the ground. No big deal except he left part of his finger hanging on the airplane. Same goes for watches.
Stay safe...CLEAR!
I think this plane should go towards helping some local projects Great job Jimmy carry on
Sparky has the patience of a saint! I am definitely impressed, WOW! ps thanks for switching to Give/Send/Go!
Jimmy makes my day. We need MORE Americans like Jimmy!
I'm not a veteran but I am a skydiver. I think a video of jumping out of the 310 would be amazing!
Great video, a lot of patience and diligence needed on this particular part of the project. Loving your content down here in Sydney Australia
The grime that tends to build up on a battery can cause a small voltage drop across the top of a battery slowly draining it. You can test this by using your multimeter set to volts dc. One lead on a post and another lead on the top of the battery. Should read 0v if not it needs a cleaning.
Jimmy, I enjoy your posts, even though I am not a pilot. Keep up the good work and keep giving us posts to keep us updated.
Regarding sitting batteries on concrete. At one time this was absolutely true. Early car batteries were made with cases made out of rubber which is slightly porous. If you left a car battery sitting on concrete it would slowly leak and stain the concrete and also the acid would form a ground that would drain the battery. Once the housings began to be made of plastic this problem went away.
Hi Jimmy great work on the wiring, it can be very frustrating when its not going well. So kudos to you and your team for sticking with it. re labelling, you can get dymo printable heat shirk now, that would make identifying cable ends easier in the future, just print the item name on a label and heat shrink that on to the ends (along with the terminal number). Its a job to do all the harness from scratch, but as your in there anyway now is a great time to get the labelling sorted. I hope that helps, take care D
Keep them coming Jimmy! Love watching and look forward to your and the band's adventures.
Rock on!
For the switch board you might as well just connect LEDs to each one and send a low voltage from the other end, that way you identify which switch corresponds to that system
Hi Jimmy, as a qualified aircraft electrician and engineer, ditch the fox and hound devise. Go and buy a test lead specifically for providing the return path, they are available on a coiled reel. Then simply use a continuity tester, far more reliable and repeatable.
Next suggestion, don’t label the wires with masking paper tape, use a label maker, black text on white tape in a small font,
The labels will resist fuel and water, won’t fall off and are far more professional looking and tidy.
Regards, Steve from New Zealand
The best thing would be to give disabled kids the thrill of their lives and take them on a light plane ride over their homes or school. They are very important members of the community that are not remembered enough.
Glad you are using givesendgo great choice!
Those wire sniffers are great for twisted pairs, they don't work as well on a single wire with common ground. Though they're still extremely useful where you have no idea which wire in the bunch that you're trying to find.
To use it, hook the generator to the wire under test at the known end (IE the fuel pump, light etc) and then move the reciever across the bunch at the other end a listen to the volume.
When you get the right wire the volume will increase.
Often with single wire tracing you'll get a couple of wires that signal pretty well, especially where those wires are run next to each other over some distance.
Once you have the right wire, or a couple of wires, confirm it with the continuity tester.
If you're only tracing to a bunch with half a dozen wires it's going to be quicker to just continuity test from the start, but if your end point is 50 wires all in a bunch the sniffer will help you narrow down which of them you want to continuity test very quickly.
Trouble with Hounds and toners is when you connect to a "ground wire". It will make the whole plane to beep!
There is another problem to be aware of with the reasonably priced Fox and Hound sets. They work on 5 volts. This is fine for things like your airplane where most of the system is 12 volts, however when you get into sensors and network applications, that high a voltage can blow equipment (specifically network switches and network cards).
For what you are doing, that fox and hound will rock! For more sensitive work, you might want to look at a device like the Fluke Intellitone 200 (about $300). This unit works on millivolts and should not damage life equipment plugged in while you are testing.
That makes sense,
@@millardiii Nah, that's nonsense, network card and switch magnetics are rated for 2500V insulation so you're not going to damage one with a 1KHz tone at 5V, nor can a tone generator on a fox and hound source enough current to fry the magnetics either.
Always wanted to fly but never could do it, living vicariously through you brother!!
I hope you guys labeled each wire you identified to save future headaches. I'm a big fan of printable heat shrink tube, it will never fall off. And no, modern batteries don't discharge on concrete. That came from back when batter housings were made of wood.
Might be useful to use a power probe, they’re less then $100 and make quick work
That's a good idea. That might be next on the "try this" box.
Yeah the hound dog tool works but you have to listen very closely to determine whether a wire is just close to your signal or it's the actual wire your signal is coming down, it takes a bit of practice but the tool can be very effective. Especially if you have trouble figuring out where the wire is going. I like both tool's but the power probe 3 kit is my choice for the ultimate wiring problem solution
At least I'm not the only one thinking that this is where the power probe would shine.
The power probe kits having the ability to give any circuit a ground or voltage and having 20 ft long leads. So that means 20 ft in one direction and 20 ft in another direction. Mainly be used in automotive field that's likely why their not longer because car's and truck's are typically only that long.
As an electrician, I have used these to track cables in walls to see where and what circuits they're going. Also it just gives you a rough idea which cables to begin probing..
Glad to see you have help...very hard working alone...
I love hanging out in Jimmy's World...
the "Bell" tool is invaluable for roughly eliminating almost all wires in a loom the longer the wires run together the more they cross connect and the louder the adjacent wires are, always run a decent current like a test light 5 watts or so at 12v as that is the only thing that tests the wire
In English, please.
He did explain it in English, you just don't understand likely because you've never done wire tracing or continuity testing on any circuits
Jimmy this is actually a pretty good suggestion. The problem you are seeing of course is induction from the alternating current jumping into parallel wires, I used a similar tool 20 years ago chasing network cabling, but in your case with so many lines running in parallel the voltage is induced onto parallel lines. Sparky oughta be able to rig this up quick, it is basically your VOM without the extension cord and higher amperage to eliminate doubt. Consider mounting say 8 D or C cell batteries (8 x 1.5v = 12v) in series on a small board with 2 leads with alligator clips. At the outboard end clip ground to the airframe and positive to your suspect wire. At the spaghetti end (the terminal block) rig a small flashlight lamp with leads, one to the airframe and one by one touch the suspect wires. That lamp should light up brightly no question.
@@KurgerBurger This is what I would do as will. I have worked aircraft wiring and spacecraft wiring since 1964 and I see many things on this plane that makes my hair stand on end. If you want to fly this plane and keep it in the air you need to do it right the first time. Send Jimmy a drawing of your continuity tester.
@@rowdybroomstick6394, I’m guessing you’re not a comedian.
Your doing it backwards. Put the transmitter on the wire, use then tracer to trace along a bundle of wires to locate at switch panel.
Thanks for these videos! They are fun to watch and I actually learn stuff!
Hey Jimmy, great video! love watching you and sparky head scratch and sort out the wiring! Cheers from Australia!
Step one...always have the toner (fox) set to 2 tone mode! It should sound like a "deedle deedle deedle" kind of sound. Makes it much easier to distinguish from background interference. Secondly, place one lead from the toner to the aircraft ground, and the other to the single wire you are tracing. Third, you will need to learn how to distinguish the lead you are tracing, from the bleed over signal you can get from parallel wires. The primary lead will be considerably louder, but you have to learn that. Fourth, the sending unit should have a high and low power setting. If you are getting a lot of signal bleed over, turn the power down. Fifth, if the line you are tracing is grounded, or shorted to the second wire you have connected to the transmitter, the signal will be almost non-existent, very low, almost not readable with the signal tracer. I've been using this type of wire tracer for over 3 decades, and they do work, but they are not magic. You need to learn how to use it. That won't take long, but learning how to use it is critical.
You sound exactly like what my Dad taught me when using a toner! Retired South Western Bell 🔔 telephone repair and fiberoptics specialist.
most toners will also change tone if you short the wire together that way it confirms you have the correct pair.
@@rowdybroomstick6394 tip& ring forever
@@Tlavite only the newer tone generators.
@@russellsmith3825 that Klein one is a new one lol my fluke toner from 12 years ago does it.
Hey guys, try to use different frequencies, also reduce the tone volume, and when approaches the wires touch them using the tip of the tool, and look for the wire which gets the louder tone, because the wires closer to the right one also will have tone, but the right wire gets a louder tone.
Good luck!
Reny
I love watching your world...and thank you for letting me in your world!
It need to be the air Uber to get our veterans to Dr’s appointments, surgeries & whatever you see fit to help out our veterans.
Good for you getting rid of GoFundMe, Jimmy. I am with you 100%
The battery discharge on concrete thought comes from the old days when batteries were made from paper. It is completely safe to keep batteries on concrete now, it will not cause them to discharge any faster.
Should have read your comment before posting mine.
I learned that you aren't supposed to put them on the concrete too. I still don't put them on the concrete. Old habits I guess.
True.
Jimmy, I have used the fox and hound for a long time and it is great for longer wires. For short stuff like that, I do not ground the black lead, I just use the red lead to hunt. It keeps it unbalanced, and the difference in loudness is more detectable. Using the frame as a return makes the whole aircraft a radiator.
As a wanna be pilot, I love your videos and mission.
Addicted here too jimmy, 310 rescue missions for paws dogs sell over the place need homes. Serious medical taxi for appointments...ya, what else, disaster deliveries.....maybe a sports team cheerleader drop off....skip the dishes, or how about aviation for girls stuff. They do that up here to get young girls thinking aviation careers later on after school.
I've actually tested that battery myth. I put one of my batteries on concrete and one in a box on my welding table. Over the time frame of 2 months they both lost the same amount of juice. Sitting and age is what kills batteries, also temperature has a lot to do with a batteries life.
yup, all batts discharge, concretes an old wives tale
Applied 80-100+ years ago when batteries didn’t have plastic housings.
@@DrFiero explains the old wives getting wind of it then ;)
How resilient is the insulation on that old wiring? Looking at those spaghetti monsters, I can't help but feel trepidation at impending shorts and subsequent electrical fires. 😱
some of it is good and some of it is questionable at best. We're replacing anything that we're not sure of.
I have one of those tools, used to use it a lot in my previous career. They are invaluable in tracing wires, you did right by getting one. HOOAH!!!
This dedication, hard work and cooperation like I see here, is what made America Great!!!!!
Jimmy, Check out Power Probe. Its a common tool used in automotive 12 and 24v troubleshooting. Not an approved tool to use in most aviation applications due to them being a little more delicate avionics wise. I think for what you're trying to do it would work great.
Power probe is definitely a beast
Hi Jimmy, greetings from Argentina. As an G. aviation enthusiast, I follow either your progress as well as Jason´s 401 and I enjoy them both.
At the end of your presentation you asked us what kind of mission "Mighty Mouse" should have, and I´d like to drop a suggestion: since you and several others envolved in this task are military retired personnel, my idea splits in 2: giving veterans the chance to travel easier and faster with the 301 and giving young pilots the opportunity to build some flight hours when neither of the group can do the flight.
I guess sometimes vets can´t stand long hours in buses or waiting in airports, so a direct point to point with the 310 will help them go to their destination faster and more comfortable.
This idea came up to me after I saw a Marc Patey´s video in witch they flew from NYC to Utah in a private plane faster than an airliner.
I just hope I diddn´t suggest some nonsense.
Cheers from NE Patagonia.
Great idea! Thanks for sharing
Long time since I did this kind of work. Your new toy is almost like the tools the phone company used to use to chase circuits. Best bet is the old standard continuity testing. (B-47's, B-52's, KC-135's, and even A-4's before switching to tractor trailers and smaller planes like your 310.)
You can use chassis ground on one side and the wire your tracing. My fox hound has a attenuation dial to increase signal receiver to help determine which wires in the bundle are bleedover vs. actual signal.
as a technician, i feel im qualified to say that cheap wireless tools like that are garbage, just use the multimeter and tone everything out. itll be the quickest and easiest way to do it
Tech tip about those 4 wires at the tuna tank, with the connectors, have the wires that are coming out of the wing have different connectors, ie for the fuel pump, they can have the female connector while the light could have the male connector, that way if it is disassembled again, it will be quicker to know which is which instead of labels.
Great job showing and telling, keep up the good work on that 310 plane. Yes I love those plane’s , I painted or helped get them ready to paint. Back in about 1981 or 1982 it was fun well see ya next time see ya bye.
Holy crap. I'm curious as to the end game here. I'm a yacht captain and watching this gives me the chills. If it were a boat I would elect to strip the boat and sink it. Even if there is a day that this plane is airworthy, there is no way I would ever fly in it, let alone buy it as a used plane. Especially considering all the footage of the ongoing repairs. Keep the mayday checklist handy if this thing is ever ready to fly.