tVideoUTube Make it as alternative for those that want it. All people dont want it but there is many people that do too. More people will like it once they used it.
Thinkpads were never meant to compete with consumer laptops or Macbooks but THAT is what Lenovo is NOW forcing on the Thinkpad Series. Making them thinner and thinner and sacrificing years of engineering to cost-reduced cheap designs to make these things more or less laptopsized smartphones. And Thinkpads users want computers to WORK WITH!! Not to brag about how thin and light it is. Thinkpads used to be known for reliability, extreme high production value, easy customization with the Ultrabay port and the Dockingstation and of course the easy and fast battery swap, if you need a more powerful one. However when Lenovo started to change the screens from 16:10 to 16:9 and taking away the dedicated hotkeys and eventually REMOVED the amazing Thinkpad keyboard and gave ALL Lenovo Laptops the same shitty chiclet keyboards and made the touchpads way too big and making it getting completely in the way when you wanted to use the trackpoint, they fully abandoned their original customer base. Years of engineering and optimization completely thrown over board ONLY to force the Thinkpads into the consumer laptop range or dumbed down production quality and usability. THIS 25th anniversary edition is a complete joke. Technically the Thinkpads only lasted for 20 years with the T420 being the LAST actual thinkpad that even came with the original keyboard until Lenovo trashed the brand because they thought they know it better. There was a time where i could suggest Thinkpads to anyone who wanted a serious laptop. Not anymore thou. Let Apple produce overpriced craptoys, Lenovo. There's nothing to gain if you compete with THAT style over substance game.
I do agree with you to a certain degree, but on the other hand, you cannot argue with minimization and mass-reduction. I use T420 as work machine and it has been very reliable and durable and for the outside work I do, it does withstand whole a lot of abuse and serves me well everyday, but after all those years dragging it around everywhere, I wish it would be smaller, lighter, more portable. Co-workers who received laptops after a year or two later have them much smaller and lighter. It does matter when you have to take your computer with you everywhere with dozen or so other tools and you do it everyday. Old bulky laptops 25 years ago were fine because you unplugged it in your office, brought it to your car and then brought back to your house, you had portable desktop. Mobile computing is nowhere near what it was back then. People now carry their computers everywhere, because they are not just for job tasks, but for communication, entertainment, hobbies and so on. No one really used laptops in 1990s except businessmen and some high-end engineers who had to take them back home after work. Carrying heavy things around all the time is not just annoying, it does pose adverse health effects as well. And in this regard I am very thankful that this thinning trend started around 2013 and it had seen much improvement since. Laptops prior to that time were bulky regardless of brand. Now that new Lenovos are on the market, my T420 feels really bulky. So I hope you understand why weight of your laptop matters.
Which of the Fujitsus you don't like, I mean I own a fujitsu laptop with touchscreen and it is very good computer, although it's less structurally strong than thinkpad.
they should have kept this keyboard as an option here and ahead for all ThinkPads to come, i know this cannot replace the keyboard of bygone eras but this and i am sure ThinkPad lovers would agree with me. As a ThinkPad lovers my opinion is to give option among 2. 1 This exact keyboard and layout and 2 Another keyboard of chiclet style without the nub and dedicated buttons on touchpad.
The modern update of the old styled Thinkpad sculpted keys on the T25 are simply the best typing experience found anywhere. Overall, the T25 is a delightful machine to use.
I think Lenovo have entirely missed the point. Thinkpad fans were after a machine made to the standards and use case scenarios of the past thinkpads. What they didn't want was a token gesture of Thinkpad 'nostalgia'.
I am absolutely disgusted by the price to hardware ratio.. $1899.00 for a dual core i7 made for an ultra-book, 1080p screen and almost a 2 year old GPU?
$1899 for an dual core CPU and a 1080p screen?! Is Lenovo joking around? What happened to the workstation grade machines they used to make that were "retro" too? Give us a new version on the T520 with a HQ processor and a 16:10 screen at least.
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Although I really like the way this is going, I can't wrap my head around the fact that they choose to put a 2.7Ghz dual core CPU in this thing. I'm sure it greatly improves battery life, but I'm sure quite a few of the ThinkPad users are power users, wanting more performance than that CPU is able to provide. I would have bought this machine if it had a better CPU, and a slightly better price.
GeForce 940MX Honestly, is there a warehouse full of these they're giving away for free? Why that when the MX150, its direct replacement, exists in the same power draw at twice the perf/watt? If the 28nm fab still shaves off a few bucks, ok, but this is 1900 dollars. There are 800 dollar thin and lights (mi 13) that manage the MX150. They shouldn't have cheaped out on that.
25 years, most of which were from another company, and Lenovo doesn't get why people asked for this laptop in the first place. People wanted the productivity with the choice of how many horses were under the hood, not this under-powered fashion statement. Nothing was learned, everything was for profit, and anyone buying this at USD $1,900.00 is a fool.
I really love the traditional even classical thinkpad design with many square lines as a full rectangle, it makes me feel the laptop very strong and durable. And know lenovo change everything, they change many thing such as keyboard, design, remove traditional hot keys, that make me feel the IBM Thinkpad is no longer !
They spent more on the packaging then the notebook itself. The only retro thing is the keyboard. 10 years old thinkpads had much smaller bezels then this. Definitely not worth it for the price.
Last time I bought lenovo, it was black friday last year, when I was able to get thinkpad E570 with i7 7500, 16GB DDR4, 256GB SATA SSD, GTX950M 2GB, 1080p IPS at $550 tax included. Ever since that none of lenovo's laptop attracts me anymore.
I hope this thing sells out in record time. And Lenovo gets amazing feed back, so they think of keeping the old style look and case with better specs like video card. It is to me the nicest looking laptop around. Just wish the spec's were a little higher for modern day gaming, so it can handle some newer games in the next few years, like if another half-life came out.
I agree, just wanted a little more modern aged GPU like the MX150, would of been perfect. I'm just a computer nerd and always wanted a thinkpad because it was just such an icon. And that's all I need, I have my gaming desktop. I'm just a everyday guy who want a laptop with a great keyboard, can do everything a regular person needs it for, and a nice classic look. I know thinkpad are made for business, but this old style keyboard alone and size is just perfect. I really want this but it's a limited time thing. Next year we may not get this anymore with updated specs. I just hope they up the video card to a MX150.
The design of this laptop is awful, this looks like a generic laptop. Take a look at classic thinkpad's keyboard layout, that's everything you need at the tip of your hands.
Wouldn't surprise me that my beat up W520 will out perform this... I've owned a lot of thinkpads over the years including two Transnotes and I am not going to bother with this.
Purchased mine yesterday! I can't wait to receive it...it's time to replace my T420s that I've been using...which replaced the T400 from 2008 that I use to this day. I've been waiting for the return of the 7-row keyboard and it's finally back!
I've been using it for several weeks now. I assure you it's not cheap plastic...it feels incredibly sturdy, with minimal flex, and rubberized paint all over...so actually more premium-feeling than my T400. The hinges are tighter than on my older ThinkPads...no screen wobble whatsoever.
Lenovo would have been better off if they had released a retro series instead, that even had the thinklight again and a proper high quality screen with 16:10 format. But instead we get an overpriced limited T470 repackage. I bet the keyboard is still a chiclet bubblegum keyboard that just looks like a original Thinkpad keyboard. This thing is NOT worth 2 grand!
You are right this computer is a joke. Years, months of design. Surveys for users. Ppl are pumped as fuck and they gave them a regular thinkpad (nowdays) with old keyboard layout xD. I was thinki about something powerufl. QuadCore, quadro graphics, double SSD, DVD drive. 14 inch, but thick as My W520 with plenty of batery powar and great screen. This computer is a joke. Really. it is a slap into face.
for this pricerange it could have even been a blu-ray drive. But yeah, keep the thickness of the older T and W series. The people would have tossed money at Lenovo but instead… Leonvo fooled everyone… It's like Bethesda now owns Lenovo and they will release the T470 again and again as fake "special edition".
HotHardware i just use mine a a place holder since I you not needed one dvd rom drive and when I got my case it had two empty bay slots so o just put in a cd Tom drive as a place holder it doesn’t even do anything
That or even a nice righ-Res 4:3 screen. the T25 is a fail in my opinion. No clamshell design, no thinklight, low resolution, 16:9, old GPU (MX150 would be better, more modern, more powerful), ultrabook processor (U-class), upgradablity (I could bet the processor is soldered to the board), and all that for an absolutely horrendous price tag.
the problem with high res 4:3 screens is cuz there is no way any display manufacturer even makes those anymore so it would be very hard for lenovo to produce those. however 16:10 is slightly less rare so maybe could have worked? you see the problem here isnt that they dont want to make it good its cuz parts and the technology to make those parts dont exist anymore.
man, put in a 16:10 aspect ratio resolution 1920x1200. you gotta go 4:3 or 16:10 for real work/productivity. we all know 1080p is for hipster and their media consumption
Drop that on the floor, please. It will break in a million of pieces. Drop a REAL Thinkpad on the floor, it will break the floor. Thinkpads are awesome because they're tanks. The most durable consumers laptops out there. This is a low profile laptop who imitate the look of a Thinkpad.
Why don't they make them all like this instead of screwing around and messing up what was once a great reputation? I'm writing this on my SL410 which has been beat to shit and still works great!
What I'm thinking is that they made this new keyboard to be swappable with the current lesser keyboard so that they will be more likely for the next model like T480 or whatever to actually get the old thinkpad users to buy a Thinkpad, by, offering the new-old keyboard as an upgrade during purchase. Somebody with one of these new TP25 should try installing one of the current lesser chicklet keyboards in it and see if it is compatible as far as fit and function go and tell us if this possibility could be true. It would be interesting also to compare the chassis of a T460 and one of a T25 especially around the keyboard cradle area because if those areas are the same, you can be sure that they will either offer the new-old keyboard as an option, or people will realize that they can just buy a newer Thinkpad and put that special new-old keyboard in it themselves, like they(we) are doing with the TX30/WX30 series by sourcing keyboards from the TX20 and TX10 models.
HotHardware Holy cow, I just heard the price will be 2400 😱 I was expecting something around 1500 or so! Guess, no Thinkpad 25 for me. But, my trusty old X230 still runs nicely anyway. 😉
I want a IBM think pad with $2000 worth of tech in it. Not some over priced shit specs that is this. You should just keep the IBM design permanently and give us a wide range of specification options.
I bought one the minute it was on their site for sale... Can you please post a picture of the back light on the keyboard? No one is covering it for some reason. Please add it to your review! Thank you.
Knock a pound off the weight and give us a yoga hinge at a price of about $1500, and I'd buy it in a second. As is, paying $1900 to get the 7-row keyboard layout on a new laptop is hard to swallow. My x220T is lighter and still works fine. I can wait for someone to sell these used in a couple years, or until Lenovo wises up and produces something worth the price tag.
I doubt Lenovo will wise up. They HAD their chance with this anniversary to bring a new regular retro line but instead they blew it with a pointless limited slightly changed regular T470 in a fancy box. Lenovo is dead and they literally lost the plot. It saddens me to see them butchering the Thinkpad legacy like that.
even then there's agonizingly boring stuff like "rubber skid feet on all four corners". This was very overpriced when it came out, but this presentation just makes it all that much worse. "RGB logo"- big deal. I, mean, really, how much is that worth?
weird [and outdated] components choice... the mobile coffee lake CPUs are right around the corner and even the weakest Quadro P GPU would have been much a better choice... if you're doing a special, anniversary edition, machine at least make it stand out on the inside as well
I would love to get my hands on this! I have had 3 and still have two dead ThinkPads in the closet. A lot of people didn't like the nub but I loved it! These things were great at crunching number and media too.
On my laptop the hardware wireless radio switch status is on but the Wireless Radio status is off and bluetooth status is off. Are there Radio waves being projected and can you tell me where the hardware wireless switch on the laptop so I could switch it off? Thanks for your advice.
It's called a "Retro" Thinkpad when it doesn't even have a thinklight? Or build quality comparable even to xx20 and xx30 series? It's literally an overpriced T470 with a non-chiclet keyboard. I'm sorry, but it's not even remotely close to classic thinkpads.
No. A true anniversary edition would have had a 4:3 monitor and a sturdier design. Also I find it a little disappointing that they're still using 7th gen Core is. Sure the 8th gen were only announced 6 weeks or so ago, but whaever.
Still prefer the old classic ibm thinkpad design. It is sad to see lenovo trimmed it down to this. Please bring it back or I think many would walk away.
I have a weak spot for the T61 so I would buy it, but not at this price. I understand that the old ThinkPads were very expensive but that was at a time where there was little to no competition and most ultraportable were experience. At the end of the day, if I were to pick between a $800 MacBook Air and a $1900 ThinkPad 25, I'll pick the MacBook. Damn, at $1900 I can get a top of the line business device from any major company. So maybe it is time to look for a good, refurbished T61.
Unfortunately, I don't have it in my possession any longer because it's off to another member of our team for the full review. I will, however, link that up here as soon as it's live.
That's good questions. I sent the machine off for the written review to one of our other editors. I'll ask him to look it over. I couldn't figure it out in the short time I had it.
Anyone thinking this is some holy grail of retro workhorse awesome should take a look over here ruclips.net/video/UxQGhqF60zE/видео.html. This review is a lot less biased and circle jerky for those of you who actually care about the specs of your computer. This laptop is the epitome of nostalgic over priced HOT BROWN
Please Lenovo, make this the new standard keyboard layout that we've always used for productivity and grieved when it left years ago.
Yes, this!
tVideoUTube Make it as alternative for those that want it. All people dont want it but there is many people that do too. More people will like it once they used it.
Thinkpads were never meant to compete with consumer laptops or Macbooks but THAT is what Lenovo is NOW forcing on the Thinkpad Series. Making them thinner and thinner and sacrificing years of engineering to cost-reduced cheap designs to make these things more or less laptopsized smartphones. And Thinkpads users want computers to WORK WITH!! Not to brag about how thin and light it is. Thinkpads used to be known for reliability, extreme high production value, easy customization with the Ultrabay port and the Dockingstation and of course the easy and fast battery swap, if you need a more powerful one.
However when Lenovo started to change the screens from 16:10 to 16:9 and taking away the dedicated hotkeys and eventually REMOVED the amazing Thinkpad keyboard and gave ALL Lenovo Laptops the same shitty chiclet keyboards and made the touchpads way too big and making it getting completely in the way when you wanted to use the trackpoint, they fully abandoned their original customer base. Years of engineering and optimization completely thrown over board ONLY to force the Thinkpads into the consumer laptop range or dumbed down production quality and usability.
THIS 25th anniversary edition is a complete joke. Technically the Thinkpads only lasted for 20 years with the T420 being the LAST actual thinkpad that even came with the original keyboard until Lenovo trashed the brand because they thought they know it better.
There was a time where i could suggest Thinkpads to anyone who wanted a serious laptop. Not anymore thou. Let Apple produce overpriced craptoys, Lenovo. There's nothing to gain if you compete with THAT style over substance game.
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I do agree with you to a certain degree, but on the other hand, you cannot argue with minimization and mass-reduction. I use T420 as work machine and it has been very reliable and durable and for the outside work I do, it does withstand whole a lot of abuse and serves me well everyday, but after all those years dragging it around everywhere, I wish it would be smaller, lighter, more portable. Co-workers who received laptops after a year or two later have them much smaller and lighter. It does matter when you have to take your computer with you everywhere with dozen or so other tools and you do it everyday. Old bulky laptops 25 years ago were fine because you unplugged it in your office, brought it to your car and then brought back to your house, you had portable desktop. Mobile computing is nowhere near what it was back then. People now carry their computers everywhere, because they are not just for job tasks, but for communication, entertainment, hobbies and so on. No one really used laptops in 1990s except businessmen and some high-end engineers who had to take them back home after work. Carrying heavy things around all the time is not just annoying, it does pose adverse health effects as well. And in this regard I am very thankful that this thinning trend started around 2013 and it had seen much improvement since. Laptops prior to that time were bulky regardless of brand. Now that new Lenovos are on the market, my T420 feels really bulky. So I hope you understand why weight of your laptop matters.
Which of the Fujitsus you don't like, I mean I own a fujitsu laptop with touchscreen and it is very good computer, although it's less structurally strong than thinkpad.
You're a joke. You're stuck in the past.
Well said mate.. The newest X280 doestn even have ethernet port, to make it worst the RAM is soldered
they should have kept this keyboard as an option here and ahead for all ThinkPads to come, i know this cannot replace the keyboard of bygone eras but this and i am sure ThinkPad lovers would agree with me.
As a ThinkPad lovers my opinion is to give option among 2.
1 This exact keyboard and layout and
2 Another keyboard of chiclet style without the nub and dedicated buttons on touchpad.
The modern update of the old styled Thinkpad sculpted keys on the T25 are simply the best typing experience found anywhere. Overall, the T25 is a delightful machine to use.
the keyboard should be apply to all future thinkpad
I'm with Louis on this, without even watching this video. I stay with refurbs. Close to 2k... insane.
RM Domainer For meh specs.
@@Poebat a dual core i7 U processor is outrageous
I think Lenovo have entirely missed the point.
Thinkpad fans were after a machine made to the standards and use case scenarios of the past thinkpads.
What they didn't want was a token gesture of Thinkpad 'nostalgia'.
It would appear the comment i'd replied to has disappeared :S
Still using my Thinkpad T420. :)
here is T410 ))
I use T400
(Really is a T61, but the T400 looks identical)
T60 here
Right on....T420 rocks
Yep still using my t420 and looks like it wont be getting replaced with that underpowered fakepad
I am absolutely disgusted by the price to hardware ratio..
$1899.00 for a dual core i7 made for an ultra-book, 1080p screen and almost a 2 year old GPU?
bought a second hand x230. $130. perfect
I hope they make a 30 year one next year. I HAVE to get it.
I don't think so. 50 year anniversary, maybe. That would be interesting.
$1899 for an dual core CPU and a 1080p screen?! Is Lenovo joking around? What happened to the workstation grade machines they used to make that were "retro" too? Give us a new version on the T520 with a HQ processor and a 16:10 screen at least.
Although I really like the way this is going, I can't wrap my head around the fact that they choose to put a 2.7Ghz dual core CPU in this thing. I'm sure it greatly improves battery life, but I'm sure quite a few of the ThinkPad users are power users, wanting more performance than that CPU is able to provide.
I would have bought this machine if it had a better CPU, and a slightly better price.
GeForce 940MX
Honestly, is there a warehouse full of these they're giving away for free? Why that when the MX150, its direct replacement, exists in the same power draw at twice the perf/watt?
If the 28nm fab still shaves off a few bucks, ok, but this is 1900 dollars. There are 800 dollar thin and lights (mi 13) that manage the MX150. They shouldn't have cheaped out on that.
tipoomaster who knows but I think in the really low end mobile gpu space it a probably cheap and as good as any.
At 1900 dollars though, with the MX150 taking the same power draw but at twice the performance per watt, they should have made that jump.
Can you update the video card to a MX150?
As an end user? No. And since this is a limited run they might not update the model to it either.
How many 3-pound notebooks can you say even have discrete graphics?
25 years, most of which were from another company, and Lenovo doesn't get why people asked for this laptop in the first place. People wanted the productivity with the choice of how many horses were under the hood, not this under-powered fashion statement.
Nothing was learned, everything was for profit, and anyone buying this at USD $1,900.00 is a fool.
A fool or a collector who collect niche things for fun
happy owner of a refurbish thinkpad t420s and enjoying every inches of it
I really love the traditional even classical thinkpad design with many square lines as a full rectangle, it makes me feel the laptop very strong and durable. And know lenovo change everything, they change many thing such as keyboard, design, remove traditional hot keys, that make me feel the IBM Thinkpad is no longer !
If they put that keyboard back on the new models, I'll sell my t460 and buy one
They spent more on the packaging then the notebook itself. The only retro thing is the keyboard. 10 years old thinkpads had much smaller bezels then this. Definitely not worth it for the price.
Last time I bought lenovo, it was black friday last year, when I was able to get thinkpad E570 with i7 7500, 16GB DDR4, 256GB SATA SSD, GTX950M 2GB, 1080p IPS at $550 tax included. Ever since that none of lenovo's laptop attracts me anymore.
oh man, I want to have one!
it's notan S2 port for mouse. it's an s-video port :)
I hope this thing sells out in record time. And Lenovo gets amazing feed back, so they think of keeping the old style look and case with better specs like video card. It is to me the nicest looking laptop around. Just wish the spec's were a little higher for modern day gaming, so it can handle some newer games in the next few years, like if another half-life came out.
I agree, just wanted a little more modern aged GPU like the MX150, would of been perfect. I'm just a computer nerd and always wanted a thinkpad because it was just such an icon. And that's all I need, I have my gaming desktop. I'm just a everyday guy who want a laptop with a great keyboard, can do everything a regular person needs it for, and a nice classic look. I know thinkpad are made for business, but this old style keyboard alone and size is just perfect. I really want this but it's a limited time thing. Next year we may not get this anymore with updated specs. I just hope they up the video card to a MX150.
The design of this laptop is awful, this looks like a generic laptop. Take a look at classic thinkpad's keyboard layout, that's everything you need at the tip of your hands.
Wouldn't surprise me that my beat up W520 will out perform this... I've owned a lot of thinkpads over the years including two Transnotes and I am not going to bother with this.
Purchased mine yesterday! I can't wait to receive it...it's time to replace my T420s that I've been using...which replaced the T400 from 2008 that I use to this day. I've been waiting for the return of the 7-row keyboard and it's finally back!
I've been using it for several weeks now. I assure you it's not cheap plastic...it feels incredibly sturdy, with minimal flex, and rubberized paint all over...so actually more premium-feeling than my T400. The hinges are tighter than on my older ThinkPads...no screen wobble whatsoever.
I miss the little white LED that lit up your keyboard, paper note pad and text book bright enough to read & write during dark room presentations. :-)
The keyboard is very beautiful, it looks like CG
Lenovo would have been better off if they had released a retro series instead, that even had the thinklight again and a proper high quality screen with 16:10 format. But instead we get an overpriced limited T470 repackage. I bet the keyboard is still a chiclet bubblegum keyboard that just looks like a original Thinkpad keyboard. This thing is NOT worth 2 grand!
You are right this computer is a joke. Years, months of design. Surveys for users. Ppl are pumped as fuck and they gave them a regular thinkpad (nowdays) with old keyboard layout xD. I was thinki about something powerufl. QuadCore, quadro graphics, double SSD, DVD drive. 14 inch, but thick as My W520 with plenty of batery powar and great screen. This computer is a joke. Really. it is a slap into face.
for this pricerange it could have even been a blu-ray drive. But yeah, keep the thickness of the older T and W series. The people would have tossed money at Lenovo but instead… Leonvo fooled everyone… It's like Bethesda now owns Lenovo and they will release the T470 again and again as fake "special edition".
"cd rom drives no uses them much anymore" i turn to stare at my cd rom drive
I have two in my desktop currently. They might as well be cup holders at this point.
HotHardware i just use mine a a place holder since I you not needed one dvd rom drive and when I got my case it had two empty bay slots so o just put in a cd Tom drive as a place holder it doesn’t even do anything
should of had a 16:10 screen
That or even a nice righ-Res 4:3 screen.
the T25 is a fail in my opinion. No clamshell design, no thinklight, low resolution, 16:9, old GPU (MX150 would be better, more modern, more powerful), ultrabook processor (U-class), upgradablity (I could bet the processor is soldered to the board), and all that for an absolutely horrendous price tag.
the problem with high res 4:3 screens is cuz there is no way any display manufacturer even makes those anymore so it would be very hard for lenovo to produce those. however 16:10 is slightly less rare so maybe could have worked? you see the problem here isnt that they dont want to make it good its cuz parts and the technology to make those parts dont exist anymore.
man, put in a 16:10 aspect ratio resolution 1920x1200. you gotta go 4:3 or 16:10 for real work/productivity. we all know 1080p is for hipster and their media consumption
4:3 would be an actual homage but at the very least it should be 16:10 indeed...
I miss this keyboard
Drop that on the floor, please. It will break in a million of pieces.
Drop a REAL Thinkpad on the floor, it will break the floor.
Thinkpads are awesome because they're tanks. The most durable consumers laptops out there. This is a low profile laptop who imitate the look of a Thinkpad.
Wrong, it's very well built actually and a lot bulkier in some respects than most ultrabooks these days.
3310 reference!
Why don't they make them all like this instead of screwing around and messing up what was once a great reputation? I'm writing this on my SL410 which has been beat to shit and still works great!
What I'm thinking is that they made this new keyboard to be swappable with the current lesser keyboard so that they will be more likely for the next model like T480 or whatever to actually get the old thinkpad users to buy a Thinkpad, by, offering the new-old keyboard as an upgrade during purchase. Somebody with one of these new TP25 should try installing one of the current lesser chicklet keyboards in it and see if it is compatible as far as fit and function go and tell us if this possibility could be true. It would be interesting also to compare the chassis of a T460 and one of a T25 especially around the keyboard cradle area because if those areas are the same, you can be sure that they will either offer the new-old keyboard as an option, or people will realize that they can just buy a newer Thinkpad and put that special new-old keyboard in it themselves, like they(we) are doing with the TX30/WX30 series by sourcing keyboards from the TX20 and TX10 models.
Thank you.
That free extra box with the brochures etc would cost an extra 300 dolan if this were an Apple product...
That's just a press swag kit. :)
HotHardware Holy cow, I just heard the price will be 2400 😱 I was expecting something around 1500 or so! Guess, no Thinkpad 25 for me.
But, my trusty old X230 still runs nicely anyway. 😉
Bro Swirski Where did you hear that? Starts at $1899 from our info.
HotHardware Yes, in the US you guys are better off with the pricing. Here in Germany we get the extra hefty price tag 😢
Also a limited run of 625pcs from rumors!
I want a IBM think pad with $2000 worth of tech in it. Not some over priced shit specs that is this. You should just keep the IBM design permanently and give us a wide range of specification options.
I see this on a thinkpad x260..and now i want this...greed is a bitch
I bought one the minute it was on their site for sale... Can you please post a picture of the back light on the keyboard? No one is covering it for some reason. Please add it to your review! Thank you.
i'm still using my trusty T400. it surely got some wear and tear over the past 7 years, but it's still going strong.
I've got 10 years on my t400. Got the old advanced dock too. Still a great workhorse.
Hard to believe this was five years ago.
Why didn't they reproduce the machine itself?
Knock a pound off the weight and give us a yoga hinge at a price of about $1500, and I'd buy it in a second. As is, paying $1900 to get the 7-row keyboard layout on a new laptop is hard to swallow. My x220T is lighter and still works fine. I can wait for someone to sell these used in a couple years, or until Lenovo wises up and produces something worth the price tag.
I doubt Lenovo will wise up. They HAD their chance with this anniversary to bring a new regular retro line but instead they blew it with a pointless limited slightly changed regular T470 in a fancy box. Lenovo is dead and they literally lost the plot. It saddens me to see them butchering the Thinkpad legacy like that.
Nice to know I'm not the only one who remembers the PS2 mouse! Interesting video.
Let us see the internals
Hopefully they'll release the T30 with quadcore or better cpu.
Skip to @8:35 if you want to see the laptop and not the box.
even then there's agonizingly boring stuff like "rubber skid feet on all four corners". This was very overpriced when it came out, but this presentation just makes it all that much worse. "RGB logo"- big deal. I, mean, really, how much is that worth?
Watching this in my Lenovo Thinkpad X201T :D
By the way, You forgot to mention that the screen is also a touchscreen.
weird [and outdated] components choice... the mobile coffee lake CPUs are right around the corner and even the weakest Quadro P GPU would have been much a better choice... if you're doing a special, anniversary edition, machine at least make it stand out on the inside as well
I would love to get my hands on this! I have had 3 and still have two dead ThinkPads in the closet. A lot of people didn't like the nub but I loved it! These things were great at crunching number and media too.
They were...
On my laptop the hardware wireless radio switch status is on but the
Wireless Radio status is off
and bluetooth status is off. Are there Radio waves being projected and can you tell me where the hardware wireless switch on the laptop so I could switch it off? Thanks for your advice.
I want that keyboard, hope all T-Series have the same.
It's called a "Retro" Thinkpad when it doesn't even have a thinklight? Or build quality comparable even to xx20 and xx30 series?
It's literally an overpriced T470 with a non-chiclet keyboard. I'm sorry, but it's not even remotely close to classic thinkpads.
No. A true anniversary edition would have had a 4:3 monitor and a sturdier design. Also I find it a little disappointing that they're still using 7th gen Core is. Sure the 8th gen were only announced 6 weeks or so ago, but whaever.
Its the box, thats why its overpriced!
Brother! which watch are you wearing?
Even then no 4:3 display?
If the MBP was the same price or even less, I'd still go for a ThinkPad. You can bet your life on them.
I still want one for the keyboard and design
I like it, but not for 1,899.
I'll just mess around with my T43p if I want a retro feel.
I still use my thinkpad X60 T430 and T430s
My W500 is more retro than the ThinkPad 25 Anniversary Edition!
Wtf the fn and ctrl key still flipped but I hope you can swap them in bios
Still prefer the old classic ibm thinkpad design. It is sad to see lenovo trimmed it down to this. Please bring it back or I think many would walk away.
ayyyyy T420 4 lief
I miss my childhood
I have a weak spot for the T61 so I would buy it, but not at this price. I understand that the old ThinkPads were very expensive but that was at a time where there was little to no competition and most ultraportable were experience. At the end of the day, if I were to pick between a $800 MacBook Air and a $1900 ThinkPad 25, I'll pick the MacBook. Damn, at $1900 I can get a top of the line business device from any major company. So maybe it is time to look for a good, refurbished T61.
that is very slow for the price ...its like 10 years old...
What thinkpad software does it have installed?
Unfortunately, I don't have it in my possession any longer because it's off to another member of our team for the full review. I will, however, link that up here as soon as it's live.
Should be 4:3 to be really perfect
The Chinese company that bought IBM and make a success out of it
still using my R61
Who wants to buy my X1 Carbon 4th gen? I neeeeeeeeed this!
Vai vim para o Brasil?
Well they are out of stock now lol
The optional card reader is for the CAC (Common Access Card). The one reason I've liked the Lenovo Laptops.
Love from PAKISTAN
Nice thinkpad, but my wallet love second hand thinkpad.
Too bad there is no 25th anniversary of OS/2 Warp 3.
Its not bad, for $800.
CD/DVD era is gone! OMG
Same keyboard as T410
Backlight.
It's a mix of a **20 series classic keyboard and the **20-70 series backlit keyboard really.
It looks like a slightly different a C9-90 keyboard, with an extra funtion on the F10, and a larger trackpoint. Pretty cool
What's that sticker thing?
That's good questions. I sent the machine off for the written review to one of our other editors. I'll ask him to look it over. I couldn't figure it out in the short time I had it.
It's NFC. download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/tp25_hmm_sp40j66019.pdf
Can we have one.
:) I wish I could keep it!
Better keyboard is not retro, Lenovo please.
But specs are terrible
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The price is the reason why I wouldn't buy it it's just not worth it
such a beauty, sexy laptop! me love it. XD
Oh .. man.. I'm drooling ....
very cool machine and built top notch! Needs an OLED panel though!
Boy Aditya Same here
Anyone thinking this is some holy grail of retro workhorse awesome should take a look over here ruclips.net/video/UxQGhqF60zE/видео.html. This review is a lot less biased and circle jerky for those of you who actually care about the specs of your computer. This laptop is the epitome of nostalgic over priced HOT BROWN
I saw the price and the specs on it, no I don't think do.
Weak sauce specifications
Err please don't waste much time on just unboxing..
disappointed.... big time....
where is the 16 by 10... or 4 by 3.....
never for 2000.00 Ill just read the book
This is literally like they're pissing in their fans faces.
Four years ago and your whining about it now. What's your damage? Your major malfunction?
Come on, this is a rip off.
A rip off and an insult to millions of professionals whose opinions were sought then ignored.