Thank you so much for this video! I enjoyed every minute. I have the same motorcycle and I ordered the same exhaust 2 weeks ago. I can't wait for the exhaust to arrive. Greetings from Hungary
I ground the welds off the DB killer cap to open it up just a little. Sounds perfect with just enough back pressure and no gurgling or popping on deceleration .
As a previous gen Super Adv owner, that was the single best mod i ever did, arrow slip on. Curious that the baffle was so easy to remove, i was under the impression that all euro 5 aftermarket exhausts had to have welded non removable baffles from the factory. Does make me miss my big KTM, but my dealer experience soured me on the brand. Ended up on a GS, very happy, but your vids make me nostalgic. Thanks for that from Canada!
Agreed! It makes a huge difference! I thought the same too, especially as all other exhausts seem to be either riveted in or welded. Not sure how they got around that! Such a shame that dealer experience can ruin a brand but its said quite a bit with KTM! Thanks for watching!
Nice fun upload Sam, I'm the same and must start a bike without the end can whenever the opportunity arises! I think it's the law, as is the laughter whenever the said beans are given 😂
Hi Sam , finally a decent video on the Arrow exhaust , hope you don't mind but I shared your link on a ktm forum as there's been so many posts about exhausts , I love mine sounds and looks the dogs danglers 😁 keep up the good work mate 👍
Thanks Alan! Appreciate the share too, it all helps. I've got a video going up on Wednesday which is essentially just the side by side noise test without me fitting etc if you want to share that too. I know most people in this age can't pay attention for more than 30 seconds haha! Appreciate it as always and glad you're happy with yours too. I love it 😁
My other half saw me watching your review and said: He's even weirder than you are.....🤪 Great review! Thank you, Sam. I picked up my 2022 1290 SAS last Friday and this exact same Arrow exhaust is due in 3 weeks. Can't wait. I understood that on the latest version the bolt to take out the dB killer isn't there anymore. It requires a bit more work to modify it. Even with the dB killer in, it might be enough of an improvement. I regularly ride in Germany and Switzerland so I have to be careful.....👮🏻♂️ Best regards from The Netherlands 🙋♂️
Hahaha! I try! Congratulations on the new bike!! Ahh really? I've had a few people buy them recently and still been able to remove the baffle with the bolt so maybe it's an EU thing they have done. It still sounds a lot better even with the baffle in so if you have to leave it in, it's still an improvement! Thanks for watching and safe riding!
I’m considering the Wings exhaust. The Arrow looks and sounds nice. You have good taste in farkles. The wheel decals…….. I dig them. Where’d you get them?
Yes I've not heard the Wings in person but its meant to sound nice! I got them from Kanoxide.com. They are a moto decals company. I've got a 10% off code if you do buy anything through them too - samvbikes10
Hi Sam. Great video, I went black with mine. Baffle out always, neighbours used to the noise of my bikes. Will have to meet at Finchingfield at some point to compare.
Infiel Sam Vincent That looks great, he's the one that barbarian likes. Congratulations and enjoy the beast 1290. Greetings from your faithful unbeliever Pako
Hi Sam, just subd to your channel having watched this video. I really enjoyed it, your enthusiasm is infectious. Similarly, I bought mine at the same time as you and have done the same mileage and this morning placed an order for said exhaust. Can't wait for it to arrive, and become a like minded toolbag.
Thank you! Really appreciate that! You will love the exhaust. It changes the bike into a different beast! A man with impeccable taste haha! Thanks for watching
Hi Sam, Im local in Cole Green to where this was shot in Tewin, Datchworth area, today I signed the papers for a new 1290 SA with Jason in Hemel. Looking at getting that can and specing different tyres, now we are in August are you still happy with the can and what tyres are you running? love the videos
Very nice, congratulations! Might see you around! Depends what you're going to use it for. I'm just about to take my TKC80s off which I used for the ABR festival, and stick my Michelin Road 6s back on. Really looking forward to having the road 6s back on, but i was surprised how good the TKCs were. Also the Anakee Adventures were great! The exhaust is absolutely my favourite thing! Definitely worth the money in my opinion! Thanks for watching bud
Always a treat to watch your videos! Question for you, now 6 months later. Still, no feeling of droning or excessive noise when touring? I had to replace my Akro on my GSA as it produces too much noise for comfort on long rides. Would really love a beefier sound but not at the expense of comfort.
Thank you! 6 months later, the baffle is still out, and I'm still laughing at the pops and crackles! Can sit on the motorway without it driving me mad. With the baffle in, it was still very throaty, but way more subdued. Definitely still recommend it!
Hi there... great videos 👌🏻.... just a question ... as I have got the same bike and looking forward to buy this exhaust ...🤔Do I need to do something to the bike after I instal the exhaust ??? 😊
Thank you! No you don't, I ran my bike with the baffle out on this for over 6 months with no issues. You will notice some of the Euro 5 characteristics a bit more (a little on and off with throttle etc) so you can choose to get the bike remapped to help that (which is what I did), but it runs just fine without doing anything else to it!
Hey bud, greetings from the USofA! Did you really use all the metal and rubber washers on the heat shield? I don't see how the metal washers and extra rubber washers attach to anything....Great vid, thanks!
Greetings!! Yes! There were so many of them. I can't remember the order off the top of my head but it was something like bolt, washer, shield, washer, rubber washer, then into the clip on the exhaust. All of them go on the bolt, and the metal clip things push onto the exhaust mount
Hi Sam, top video as always! Great looking and sounding bike. I want one so bad! Would you consider doing a video of a fly by so we can hear what it sounds like on the move?
Flat side toward the carbon but I don't see why you couldn't have them the other way around. My carbon is very close to the exhaust but doesn't touch it
Thanks! It definitely feels more peppy down low, and more responsive. Not sure if that's a placebo though. It's said to add 5bhp according to the website, and you know it must be true if its on the Internet! 😂
Great video! I'm wanting this exhaust, but need to know if it will afford the passenger more foot space. The wife's foot rest on the stock exhaust and she hates it. Thanks in advance.
Thank you! That's a very good question. My other half has her own bike so she hasn't been on the back of mine since fitting the exhaust so I couldnt tell you for definite. It's definitely shorter at around 400mm, and the height is less by quite a bit, but I couldn't tell you it will give you clearance. I'll measure when I get home from work to see how much smaller it is!
Use a pair of needle nose pliers. You have to pull out and wriggle it a bit. It was a lot easier to remove when the exhaust was warm but obviously be really careful if you do that
Hi Sam, excellent video so thanks very much, you have now made my mind up on which can to go for. I’ve had the SC Project Adventure Muffler on order for the last 6 weeks as I liked the look of the twin exit tips on the carbon end cap. Sc Project where ready to ship the exhaust to me from 5th July, however I have just cancelled and got a full refund, the reason being they have designed the Sc project muffler to utilise the OEM heat shield as apposed to supplying a carbon heat shield as Arrow do. If I’m spending that kind of money £636 + import taxes from Italy I expect a carbon heat shield to be supplied and not have to use that huge black lump of plastic from original exhaust. Anyway like I’ve said I cancelled the order and now gonna buy the Arrow C/W carbon heat shield. Keep up the superb content, been an avid fan for a while now, appreciate your time and effort you put into these vids. Ps I bought Steve from Abike thing KTM 1290 SAS with all the extras on it and I’m over the moon with it. Cheers, Paul.
You made a very good choice! I also looked at the SC Project one but couldn't bring myself to pay for the import, and like you say, no carbon cover! Thank you for the kind words! Steve's bike looked mint so you got yourself a great one there! Thanks for watching as always
Hi Sam, I saw almost all your vids, thanks for so much positivity and st8 forward info. If not you I probably ended up with GS, but yesterday picked up new SAS.. I wondering where did you get arrow exhaust as I want one aswell as stock is too boring.. many thanks
Thank you so much!! Appreciate the support! Congratulations on the new bike, glad you decided to go team orange haha. I got mine through a local shop who imported it but I hear they are quite difficult to get hold of in the UK at the moment. Not sure where you are based. Check the 1290 Super Adventure Facebook groups. Also worth looking at the Wings, SC Project and Pipewerx exhausts - heard they are good!
The comparison is toward the end of the video, and there is a separate video with just the comparison too. The Akrapovic is 50% more money and sounded barely different to stock which is why I didn't go for it. It sounds good when the baffles and out but you need to drill the rivets out to get it out!
I bought it from Bikestop.co.uk. They are my local bike apparel company so they don't normally stock exhausts, but managed to order one for me. Call them and they will be able to quote you a price. Tell them you saw my video!
I'd assume its doable with a few parts for the conversion! There's a guy I follow on Instagram with a previous generation SAS. He's converted his to essentially a Pikes Peak bike on 17 inch wheels. Looks really cool
Looks like the new batch have the baffle welded into place in 2 spots (and also the screw). Put aside a bit of time to file (or grind) the welds off........
Hi, thank you for the very informative video I just bought an Arrow Sonora Exhaust as well! I just had one question do you happen to know the size of your top case in liters by any chance or just what model it is? I'm looking to buy one but their aren't many showing it on a Ktm super adventure and i don't want to buy one that's looks way to big.
Hello Sam! Great video! You really make me want to ride one of those 😂. I have a question for you. Do you know if f that Arrow exhaust is compatible with the KTM panniers ? I’m talking about the ones that hook into the bike, not the ones that use racks. Cheers !
Thank you!! Haha! I believe they are but I haven't tested it! This is quite a bit smaller than the stock exhaust so I'd assume there would be more space! Sorry I couldn't be more help! Thanks for watching
@@SamVBikes Hello Sam ! Thanks for your reply. When you say it’s smaller, are you talking about length or width ? Because the oem or the Akrapovic are oval on shape and they get very close to the pannier inside. And since the Arrow seems to be more round than oval in shape, I’m worried that it will melt the inside of the right side pannier 🤣. Thanks
Hi Sam, very nice video! I just got the exhaust two days ago and put it on and removed the baffles right away. But I have ran into the the engine misfiring issue for the past couple days, feels kind of similar to the infamous 1290 misfire issue, but only after installing the exhaust. It happen like once a day, and only if I roll off the throttle then immediately give heavy throttle, around 4000 rpm. I was wondering if you have seen this issue? I'm still experimenting and will put the baffle back in to see if it's fueling issue. I have a 2022 bike and did not experience misfiring on 700 miles prior to the exhaust, but also might be due to I wasn't giving much throttle when I was running in the engine.
Hey! That's a shame! I've had no misfiring or bad fuelling at all with the exhaut. Baffle in or out. I know there are a few people who have had misfiring issues develop after their first service too. Seems to either be the crank position sensor, or there's another one which I think is the O2 sensor coming out the cat.. that wears through rubbing against the swinging arm and causes that. I'd stick the stock can back on to see if it still does it, then get KTM to take a look. Hope you get it sorted bud!
Hi sam with the weight difference of arrow exhaust compared to stock 3.5kg and changing the yuasa ytz14s battery to jmt lithium would save another 3kgs that would make it 238kg bike on parr with the new gs1300r?
Yes there's not a huge amount of weight difference between the bikes anyway. That weight difference could easily be changed by adding a topbox or something. I wouldn't focus on the numbers too much though. The bikes are very different to ride and you won't notice the weight difference
I have this exhaust on my 2022 1290 sas baffle out. After 1000 miles I had check engine light, Missfires etc. After a month in the shop pn75041085044 map sensor fixed the issue. Now im afraid to put this exhaust back on.
That's really odd! I've run it for over 5k miles, and know a load of others that have done too with no issue. Maybe there was an issue with the sensor and the exhaust just exacerbated it
Hi Sam, where did you purchase the Arrow exhaust from? Can't seem to find anywhere online in the UK. The only option I've found is importing from Italy using Ebay.
Hey! I bought it from Bikestop.co.uk - They imported it for me when they were first released but its not their normal stock. Seems like a lot of people are having issues recently with the import
Hallo! Von einer Website namens www.Kanoxide.com - Es sind SuperDuke R-Aufkleber, passen aber gut! Mein Deutsch wird seit Jahren nicht mehr verwendet, also habe ich es mit Google Translate überprüft!
@@SamVBikes I think I also go (should consider) to buy the Arrow. Recently I saw that Ixil also has an e5 exhaust available now .. but the looks are average. Not a real improvement. Understood from someone that Bos Exhausts also comes with the Dessert Fox in E5 version .. would love to see a SAS1290 all black. Yesterday I put the Puig dark smoke windscreen on my SAS1290 21 model. With the Power Parts tank protector already a lot of orange is now black..
Awesome video 12/10 p.s I'm not peeing on your parade "promise", Do Werkes do a pipe for the KTM yet ,Arrow is Awesome BUT Werkes is the Daddy of pipes
Thank you! I don't know if they have released it yet. This was the first pipe that was launched for the bike that wasn't the factory Akrapovic so there have been a few more launched since!
Hey! No I didn't, I bought it through a company who uses a UK importer so they pay the import duty. Give Bikestop.co.uk a call and tell them I sent you, they will look after you if you're interested In getting one!
@@SamVBikes ok thanks Sam I'll try them. I've seen someone on eBay called mototopgun from Italy selling them for £600 odd. They said there is no extra charges on this end. Not sure about that really
The only way I think you can get around it is if the company shipping it lies about the value of the item! Not sure who pays if they find out that's not right though haha
I dont think it's too crazy! I think it's around 2.5% on total value for anything between £135 and £600, not sure over that. Massively depends on the country it comes from but there are a few calculators online
Expect a call from Jon Favreau for the rights to end can arm man as new MCU superhero. Still brainstorming the name...The Baffler? Deafens and asphyxiates their foes. 😆
It's really good! I'm only a short arse so it won't be as good for you, but I can ride with my visor open on the motorway easily. It's the Puig clip on 6375W I think. Not 100% on the model number but basically as wide as the top of the screen. Worth having a look at the taller aftermarket screens?
Salut ,j adore ce silencieux,beaucoup plus jolie que l’Akrapovic,et moins chère,et super son ,sans db killer 😂👍Arow fait un collecteur en titane pour ta moto ,je l ai vue c est très jolie ,bleu ,le bruit doit être fort sans le catalyseur 😂
Salut! Oui, je pense que c'est génial ! Il est également plus fort que l'échappement Akrapovic qui n'a pas un son très différent de celui d'origine ! Les collecteurs en titane sont magnifiques ! Désolé si cela n'a pas de sens ! Google Translate! 😂
After hearing your maniacal laugh at the gorgeous sound,I bought one myself but can't figure out how to remove the baffle, I cab see where the small bolt should be but I can't figure out the size of the Allen key needed as I seem to have too small or can't tell if the next size is too big as nothing seems to ne turning. Can you advise what size the key you used is please?
Haha! The new ones are welded in so you may have to dremel the top off it! There are potential some simple edge welds on the edge of the baffle going down around the opening. Check you have those or not first. I'll have to dig out the baffle in the garage tomorrow. It was really easy to remove so the welds may be the issue. Should be really easy to remove though
@@SamVBikes wow, thanks for the quick reply Sam, I don't see any welds but I also don't feel like any Allen key is fitting or feel any reistance when i turn them and don't want to round it out . If you remember I'd be much obliged. I really want to hear it sound like the monster V twin it is.
More than welcome, I'll write a note on my forehead to remember tomorrow and come back to you. Are you on Instagram or FB? I can send pics on there of how mine is to see if its the same
It's a 3mm hex head bolt, protrudes quite obviously sitting above the level of the baffle metal. If you have no screw in there, you might have the welded one. I'm just chatting to someone else with the same thing! Watch the vid below. Just need to grind off the subtle welds to get it out. I doubt you will need to take the can off like he has but might make it easier. ruclips.net/video/OoN-qat_eq8/видео.html
@@SamVBikes you are a star, on closer inspection (in daylight!) it is welded which is why I’m struggling to find the Allen bolt in the small hole. Delicate dremmel surgery required. Thanks again Sam you are a top banana.
@Sam Vincent Aye, totally agree, I'm gonna hang around and see of any of the decent competition say they'll do one or wait for a 50% voucher from arrow 🤣🤣🤣 whichever is sooner. Having seen how well fuelled this bike is, I definitely don't want to change the headers. Until then, I'll continue vacuuming the roadside.
Most adventure bike exhausts are big, but I think if you could put on a smaller one on like you get on sports/naked bikes, it would look really out of place and odd. Anything is better than that small boat that comes as standard!
Definitely! I'm personally all for those twin pipes under the rear arch like the old 990 adventures used to have! Those things looked awesome when swapped to Akras or Arrows haha
There's a direct sound only comparison on the channel too for anyone who just wants sounds comparison and doesn't want the information about the exhaust.
Mine arrived today! It'll be on for the weekend and the sun will be shining.
Beaut!!! Enjoy it!
I’ve been waiting for this one, Love the vid mate.
Haha you and me both bud!
Great video! I was smiling right along with you, your enthusiasm is infectious.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video! I enjoyed every minute. I have the same motorcycle and I ordered the same exhaust 2 weeks ago. I can't wait for the exhaust to arrive. Greetings from Hungary
You're welcome! You will love this exhaust! It completely changes the bike and gives it the noise it deserves!
I ground the welds off the DB killer cap to open it up just a little. Sounds perfect with just enough back pressure and no gurgling or popping on deceleration .
I laugh hard with your excitement because I have the same excitement as you with my bike!Cheers mate from Greece!
Haha! Thanks for watching!
I just fitted mine today. Now I understand the giggling every time you pin the throttle. 😂🎶🎼🎵🤘🏻
Hahaha! Welcome to the club!! 😂
Best sound comparison test I've heard
Thank you! It's difficult to get good sound!
Finally, a proper video showing the exhaust. I'm guessing this video will have a lot of views 😁 Nice job!!
Thank you! I hope so too haha!
Your laughter made this video.😁
So optimistic.) Have many fun rides, man!
Haha thanks mate! You too!
Great review (and the more I'm wtaching it: great channel). It's good to see some method applied to exhaust sound comparison.
Thank you mate! Appreciate the kind words! The exhaust comparison consistency has annoyed me for years 😂
You are so happy bro!!! Thank you for the video!
Haha! I love it! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video and good humour.. Haha... Place and order for 1 also... Can't wait to receive..
Haha you're welcome! Enjoy it
Brilliant vid mate. Decision made. Arrow it is!
Haha! You will not be disappointed. I still smile in anticipation before I start it every time!
As a previous gen Super Adv owner, that was the single best mod i ever did, arrow slip on. Curious that the baffle was so easy to remove, i was under the impression that all euro 5 aftermarket exhausts had to have welded non removable baffles from the factory. Does make me miss my big KTM, but my dealer experience soured me on the brand. Ended up on a GS, very happy, but your vids make me nostalgic. Thanks for that from Canada!
Agreed! It makes a huge difference! I thought the same too, especially as all other exhausts seem to be either riveted in or welded. Not sure how they got around that! Such a shame that dealer experience can ruin a brand but its said quite a bit with KTM! Thanks for watching!
Where is the dealership in Canada?
Nice fun upload Sam, I'm the same and must start a bike without the end can whenever the opportunity arises! I think it's the law, as is the laughter whenever the said beans are given 😂
Haha thanks bud! Yeah it's also considered rude not to! An insult to the culture!
@@SamVBikes agreed! Have a good week 👍
Cheers bud you too
Hi Sam , finally a decent video on the Arrow exhaust , hope you don't mind but I shared your link on a ktm forum as there's been so many posts about exhausts , I love mine sounds and looks the dogs danglers 😁 keep up the good work mate 👍
Thanks Alan! Appreciate the share too, it all helps. I've got a video going up on Wednesday which is essentially just the side by side noise test without me fitting etc if you want to share that too. I know most people in this age can't pay attention for more than 30 seconds haha! Appreciate it as always and glad you're happy with yours too. I love it 😁
My other half saw me watching your review and said: He's even weirder than you are.....🤪
Great review! Thank you, Sam. I picked up my 2022 1290 SAS last Friday and this exact same Arrow exhaust is due in 3 weeks. Can't wait. I understood that on the latest version the bolt to take out the dB killer isn't there anymore. It requires a bit more work to modify it. Even with the dB killer in, it might be enough of an improvement. I regularly ride in Germany and Switzerland so I have to be careful.....👮🏻♂️ Best regards from The Netherlands 🙋♂️
Hahaha! I try! Congratulations on the new bike!!
Ahh really? I've had a few people buy them recently and still been able to remove the baffle with the bolt so maybe it's an EU thing they have done.
It still sounds a lot better even with the baffle in so if you have to leave it in, it's still an improvement!
Thanks for watching and safe riding!
@@SamVBikes The Arrow has arrived and the small allan screw to lock/un-lock the dB killer is still there. Sound is awesome.....😁
Ahhhh yes!!!! When you say it's still there.. I hope you mean it's out and left on the kitchen side haha
I’m considering the Wings exhaust. The Arrow looks and sounds nice. You have good taste in farkles. The wheel decals…….. I dig them. Where’d you get them?
Yes I've not heard the Wings in person but its meant to sound nice! I got them from Kanoxide.com. They are a moto decals company. I've got a 10% off code if you do buy anything through them too - samvbikes10
Hi Sam. Great video, I went black with mine. Baffle out always, neighbours used to the noise of my bikes. Will have to meet at Finchingfield at some point to compare.
Nice bud! Haha glad your neighbours are good with it! I'm still having to push it down the drive! Will see you in Finch at some point!
Dang! Got convinced to spend again. Good job 👏🏽
Haha! Thank you!
Just got my Arrow. Wow. Soooo fantastic. Thanks for the inspiration, buying one.
Haha its fantastic isn't it?! Glad you are happy with it
@@SamVBikes much better in real life than on a RUclips video 😄😄😄. The sound is awesome
Haha yeah! It's so hard to capture decent sound on video!
That exhaust does look awesome! I really disliked the old logo so glad theyve updated it to this much more tidy one.
Same! It's a much cleaner looking finish on the new one
Infiel Sam Vincent
That looks great, he's the one that barbarian likes. Congratulations and enjoy the beast 1290.
Greetings from your faithful unbeliever Pako
Thank you Pako!
Hi Sam, just subd to your channel having watched this video. I really enjoyed it, your enthusiasm is infectious. Similarly, I bought mine at the same time as you and have done the same mileage and this morning placed an order for said exhaust. Can't wait for it to arrive, and become a like minded toolbag.
Thank you! Really appreciate that! You will love the exhaust. It changes the bike into a different beast! A man with impeccable taste haha! Thanks for watching
Looks soooo much better, sounds better than the oem akra and guessing much cheaper too
Yes! Around 700 so a good £400 cheaper than the Akra!
Professional review, thanks a lot!
No problem!
That sound is infinitely more nice than that akra exhaust
To me, it sounds a lot louder and richer too! The Akra for me sounds too similar to a factory exhaust
@@SamVBikes agreed 100%
Hey mate, where did you get those rim stickers?
Btw, the Arrow sounds amazing!
Thx :)
Page on Instagram called Kanoxide. I think it's just Kanoxide.com too. They are trimmed SuperDuke R stickers! Thank you!
Sounds nice mate. Shared with my mate who's got the SA
Thank you! Good man! Thanks for sharing
I can’t believe how much the LC8 and LC8C sound the same
Sounds great without the db killer bro... no drone is a major plus. Bike looks great with the Arrow... good times.
Was a big plus for me because it sounds really good without the db killer! Really happy! Cheers mate
Hi Sam, Im local in Cole Green to where this was shot in Tewin, Datchworth area, today I signed the papers for a new 1290 SA with Jason in Hemel. Looking at getting that can and specing different tyres, now we are in August are you still happy with the can and what tyres are you running? love the videos
Very nice, congratulations! Might see you around! Depends what you're going to use it for. I'm just about to take my TKC80s off which I used for the ABR festival, and stick my Michelin Road 6s back on. Really looking forward to having the road 6s back on, but i was surprised how good the TKCs were. Also the Anakee Adventures were great! The exhaust is absolutely my favourite thing! Definitely worth the money in my opinion! Thanks for watching bud
Always a treat to watch your videos!
Question for you, now 6 months later. Still, no feeling of droning or excessive noise when touring? I had to replace my Akro on my GSA as it produces too much noise for comfort on long rides. Would really love a beefier sound but not at the expense of comfort.
Thank you! 6 months later, the baffle is still out, and I'm still laughing at the pops and crackles! Can sit on the motorway without it driving me mad. With the baffle in, it was still very throaty, but way more subdued. Definitely still recommend it!
@@SamVBikes Thx for the feedback! :D
No problem! Safe riding
Love my Arrow
Hope you had a good trip bud!
@@SamVBikes it was great. All the rain and mud I’d expected and a bit more for good measure! The 1290 was as ever amazing of course.
Hi Sam,great videos,where did you say you bought the Arrow exhaust from?
Cheers
Thank you! I got it from a local shop called Bikestop. Based in Stevenage, Hertfordshire
Amazing Intro 🤘🫨
Haha thanks!
Lovely sound that is mate. :) On another note, where did you get those rin stickers?
Thank you! It's from a place called www.Kanoxide.com! They are for the Super Duke R but they fit this well!
Hi there...
great videos 👌🏻.... just a question ... as I have got the same bike and looking forward to buy this exhaust ...🤔Do I need to do something to the bike after I instal the exhaust ??? 😊
Thank you! No you don't, I ran my bike with the baffle out on this for over 6 months with no issues. You will notice some of the Euro 5 characteristics a bit more (a little on and off with throttle etc) so you can choose to get the bike remapped to help that (which is what I did), but it runs just fine without doing anything else to it!
Strawberry blonde…looks great
Haha!
Wow.... A deep growl I love it, proper nice.
It's so good isn't it!
Hey bud, greetings from the USofA! Did you really use all the metal and rubber washers on the heat shield? I don't see how the metal washers and extra rubber washers attach to anything....Great vid, thanks!
Greetings!! Yes! There were so many of them. I can't remember the order off the top of my head but it was something like bolt, washer, shield, washer, rubber washer, then into the clip on the exhaust. All of them go on the bolt, and the metal clip things push onto the exhaust mount
@@SamVBikes thanks Sam. I got em all on there. It was a real exercise in dexterity for my fat fingers!
Haha I know the feeling! Glad you got it sorted
Hi Sam, top video as always! Great looking and sounding bike. I want one so bad! Would you consider doing a video of a fly by so we can hear what it sounds like on the move?
Thank you mate! Yeah sure I'll try work it into one of my next videos for you, and if not ill upload it as a short!
@@SamVBikes Thats brilliant, nice one! I look forward to it! 👍
Which way did you fit the spacers. Flat side toward exhaust or carbon. I'm not happy how close the carbon comes to the exhaust on mine too close
Flat side toward the carbon but I don't see why you couldn't have them the other way around. My carbon is very close to the exhaust but doesn't touch it
Great video… sounds much much better.. do you notice any more power with the new can?
Thanks! It definitely feels more peppy down low, and more responsive. Not sure if that's a placebo though. It's said to add 5bhp according to the website, and you know it must be true if its on the Internet! 😂
Great video! I'm wanting this exhaust, but need to know if it will afford the passenger more foot space. The wife's foot rest on the stock exhaust and she hates it. Thanks in advance.
Thank you! That's a very good question. My other half has her own bike so she hasn't been on the back of mine since fitting the exhaust so I couldnt tell you for definite. It's definitely shorter at around 400mm, and the height is less by quite a bit, but I couldn't tell you it will give you clearance. I'll measure when I get home from work to see how much smaller it is!
How do you take the DB killer out? I take the screw out but I cannot for the life of me get anything to budge.
Use a pair of needle nose pliers. You have to pull out and wriggle it a bit. It was a lot easier to remove when the exhaust was warm but obviously be really careful if you do that
Oh man!
Got older ver of 1290 and I remember my crazy 🤪 face when put my Leovince on!!! 🤙🤙🤙
Boys & our toys!! 🤪🤙
Haha! It makes such a difference!! Still laughing like a child a year later 😂😂
Great review of the Arrow can Sam, love the sound of baffle in or out, big improvement on standard 🏍☄
Cheers David! It's completely changed the bike. Given it that noise it deserves! Thanks for watching as always bud
Hi Sam, excellent video so thanks very much, you have now made my mind up on which can to go for. I’ve had the SC Project Adventure Muffler on order for the last 6 weeks as I liked the look of the twin exit tips on the carbon end cap. Sc Project where ready to ship the exhaust to me from 5th July, however I have just cancelled and got a full refund, the reason being they have designed the Sc project muffler to utilise the OEM heat shield as apposed to supplying a carbon heat shield as Arrow do. If I’m spending that kind of money £636 + import taxes from Italy I expect a carbon heat shield to be supplied and not have to use that huge black lump of plastic from original exhaust. Anyway like I’ve said I cancelled the order and now gonna buy the Arrow C/W carbon heat shield.
Keep up the superb content, been an avid fan for a while now, appreciate your time and effort you put into these vids.
Ps I bought Steve from Abike thing KTM 1290 SAS with all the extras on it and I’m over the moon with it. Cheers, Paul.
You made a very good choice! I also looked at the SC Project one but couldn't bring myself to pay for the import, and like you say, no carbon cover! Thank you for the kind words! Steve's bike looked mint so you got yourself a great one there! Thanks for watching as always
Hi Sam, I saw almost all your vids, thanks for so much positivity and st8 forward info. If not you I probably ended up with GS, but yesterday picked up new SAS.. I wondering where did you get arrow exhaust as I want one aswell as stock is too boring.. many thanks
Thank you so much!! Appreciate the support! Congratulations on the new bike, glad you decided to go team orange haha. I got mine through a local shop who imported it but I hear they are quite difficult to get hold of in the UK at the moment. Not sure where you are based. Check the 1290 Super Adventure Facebook groups. Also worth looking at the Wings, SC Project and Pipewerx exhausts - heard they are good!
Unfortunately they do not make the Sonora for my 2019 1290 Super Adventure R. It sucks.
I think they make a similar one for the 2019 model. Not sure what the name is though
Nice video Sam
Did you have the DB comparison? What about the Krapovic, saw it in the KTM website for about 1k
The comparison is toward the end of the video, and there is a separate video with just the comparison too. The Akrapovic is 50% more money and sounded barely different to stock which is why I didn't go for it. It sounds good when the baffles and out but you need to drill the rivets out to get it out!
hello...where did you buy that arrow, I would like to buy one for ktm?😁😁
I bought it from Bikestop.co.uk. They are my local bike apparel company so they don't normally stock exhausts, but managed to order one for me. Call them and they will be able to quote you a price. Tell them you saw my video!
I have a question....is it possible to put 17" front rims on our ktm ?????
I'd assume its doable with a few parts for the conversion! There's a guy I follow on Instagram with a previous generation SAS. He's converted his to essentially a Pikes Peak bike on 17 inch wheels. Looks really cool
Looks like the new batch have the baffle welded into place in 2 spots (and also the screw). Put aside a bit of time to file (or grind) the welds off........
Thats annoying! But yeah a but of filing and you're good!
10:27: Exactly my reaction after installing the LeoVince on my 1190 Adventure. Good stuff
Haha! It's the best feeling!
Sounds like a stock 1190 Adv. S :D
Perfect!
Hi, thank you for the very informative video I just bought an Arrow Sonora Exhaust as well! I just had one question do you happen to know the size of your top case in liters by any chance or just what model it is? I'm looking to buy one but their aren't many showing it on a Ktm super adventure and i don't want to buy one that's looks way to big.
Nice! Good choice!
Yes it's a Givi Trekker Dolomiti. It's a 46 litre topbox and never needed anything bigger. It's been great!
Hello Sam!
Great video! You really make me want to ride one of those 😂.
I have a question for you. Do you know if f that Arrow exhaust is compatible with the KTM panniers ? I’m talking about the ones that hook into the bike, not the ones that use racks.
Cheers !
Thank you!! Haha!
I believe they are but I haven't tested it! This is quite a bit smaller than the stock exhaust so I'd assume there would be more space! Sorry I couldn't be more help! Thanks for watching
@@SamVBikes
Hello Sam ! Thanks for your reply.
When you say it’s smaller, are you talking about length or width ? Because the oem or the Akrapovic are oval on shape and they get very close to the pannier inside. And since the Arrow seems to be more round than oval in shape, I’m worried that it will melt the inside of the right side pannier 🤣.
Thanks
Great video Sam taken the plunge and ordered the can .... what torque setting did you use for the exhaust clamp ?
Thank you! Enjoy it. I can't remember off the top of my head as it was months ago, but I found them online
Hi Sam, very nice video! I just got the exhaust two days ago and put it on and removed the baffles right away. But I have ran into the the engine misfiring issue for the past couple days, feels kind of similar to the infamous 1290 misfire issue, but only after installing the exhaust. It happen like once a day, and only if I roll off the throttle then immediately give heavy throttle, around 4000 rpm. I was wondering if you have seen this issue? I'm still experimenting and will put the baffle back in to see if it's fueling issue. I have a 2022 bike and did not experience misfiring on 700 miles prior to the exhaust, but also might be due to I wasn't giving much throttle when I was running in the engine.
Hey! That's a shame! I've had no misfiring or bad fuelling at all with the exhaut. Baffle in or out. I know there are a few people who have had misfiring issues develop after their first service too. Seems to either be the crank position sensor, or there's another one which I think is the O2 sensor coming out the cat.. that wears through rubbing against the swinging arm and causes that. I'd stick the stock can back on to see if it still does it, then get KTM to take a look. Hope you get it sorted bud!
Hi sam with the weight difference of arrow exhaust compared to stock 3.5kg and changing the yuasa ytz14s battery to jmt lithium would save another 3kgs that would make it 238kg bike on parr with the new gs1300r?
Yes there's not a huge amount of weight difference between the bikes anyway. That weight difference could easily be changed by adding a topbox or something. I wouldn't focus on the numbers too much though. The bikes are very different to ride and you won't notice the weight difference
12:10 I think you can see gases coming out where you made the connection, I don't think the seal is good anymore
It was the sealant burning off, no gas coming out! I thought that when I saw the video and checked it after!
Where did you bought this can? In what site?
I got it through my local store - Bikestop.co.uk. You will need to ring them as they don't stock them as normal stock
Could you tell us weight difference?
In the video, you will see the weight comparison midway through. I have also put chapters in the video so you can find and skip to it
@@SamVBikes sorry. Im just trying to buy arrow while at work 😆
Haha! That's always the best use of work time! Getting paid to buy bike parts 😂
Did you ever decat?
I have this exhaust on my 2022 1290 sas baffle out. After 1000 miles I had check engine light, Missfires etc. After a month in the shop pn75041085044 map sensor fixed the issue. Now im afraid to put this exhaust back on.
That's really odd! I've run it for over 5k miles, and know a load of others that have done too with no issue. Maybe there was an issue with the sensor and the exhaust just exacerbated it
Fantástico!!!! Y una cosa... me gustan esas pegatinas de las ruedas, dónde las conseguiste???
¡Hola! Los compré en www.Kanoxide.com. Mi español es horrible. Lo siento si no tiene sentido! Gracias por ver
@@SamVBikes perfecto !!! Mil gracias!!!
Hi Sam, where did you purchase the Arrow exhaust from? Can't seem to find anywhere online in the UK. The only option I've found is importing from Italy using Ebay.
Hey! I bought it from Bikestop.co.uk - They imported it for me when they were first released but its not their normal stock. Seems like a lot of people are having issues recently with the import
Forgot to put my earring aids in .🤣🤣.
It sounds great, yes i do were earring aids.
😂😂 I'm so happy with it!
Hello, are your wheel stickers home made or you bought it directly like this?
They are from Kanoxide.com. Super Duke R stickers. I have a discount code which is on the end of my newest videos
Hi, great sound :D
Did you rewrite the engine ECU map for free exhaust?
Thank you! I didn't at first because it wasn't needed, but I have done since because a company contacted me to use my bike as a development bike!
Where is it made?
Italy I believe
Wo bekommt Man die hiterrad Felgen Aufkleber?
Hallo! Von einer Website namens www.Kanoxide.com - Es sind SuperDuke R-Aufkleber, passen aber gut! Mein Deutsch wird seit Jahren nicht mehr verwendet, also habe ich es mit Google Translate überprüft!
@@SamVBikes ich danke dir. Das hatt doch Gut geklappt 💪. Ich wünsche dir allzeit gute Fahrt 🤟
Danke! Fahrt sicher 👍🏼
Is Arrow the best slip on for the KTM? Love the sound and so fantastic to see a grown up sooo happy with the exhaust .. so like me 😂
I reckon it's got to be one of the best. Cheaper than the Akrapovic by quite a lot but still a premium exhaust! Haha I haven't stopped laughing
@@SamVBikes I think I also go (should consider) to buy the Arrow. Recently I saw that Ixil also has an e5 exhaust available now .. but the looks are average. Not a real improvement. Understood from someone that Bos Exhausts also comes with the Dessert Fox in E5 version .. would love to see a SAS1290 all black. Yesterday I put the Puig dark smoke windscreen on my SAS1290 21 model. With the Power Parts tank protector already a lot of orange is now black..
Awesome video 12/10 p.s I'm not peeing on your parade "promise", Do Werkes do a pipe for the KTM yet ,Arrow is Awesome BUT Werkes is the Daddy of pipes
Thank you! I don't know if they have released it yet. This was the first pipe that was launched for the bike that wasn't the factory Akrapovic so there have been a few more launched since!
Hi there
Did you have to pay extra charges on the UK end when it arrived?
Hey! No I didn't, I bought it through a company who uses a UK importer so they pay the import duty. Give Bikestop.co.uk a call and tell them I sent you, they will look after you if you're interested In getting one!
@@SamVBikes ok thanks Sam I'll try them. I've seen someone on eBay called mototopgun from Italy selling them for £600 odd. They said there is no extra charges on this end. Not sure about that really
The only way I think you can get around it is if the company shipping it lies about the value of the item! Not sure who pays if they find out that's not right though haha
@@SamVBikes Spose it's worth a punt. Have you any idea what the extra charges would be on £600?
I dont think it's too crazy! I think it's around 2.5% on total value for anything between £135 and £600, not sure over that. Massively depends on the country it comes from but there are a few calculators online
Expect a call from Jon Favreau for the rights to end can arm man as new MCU superhero. Still brainstorming the name...The Baffler? Deafens and asphyxiates their foes. 😆
😂😂😂 Better get practicing my superhero landing
Ciao sticker whells?? Thanks
Hi! A company called Kanoxide.com. I found them through Instagram!
@@SamVBikes 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
What are your thoughts on the screen extender thingy? I'm 6'2" but all back so I sit tall in the saddle and my head feels a lot of wind (Fnar fnar!)
It's really good! I'm only a short arse so it won't be as good for you, but I can ride with my visor open on the motorway easily. It's the Puig clip on 6375W I think. Not 100% on the model number but basically as wide as the top of the screen. Worth having a look at the taller aftermarket screens?
@@SamVBikes Thanks. I should have said what a great (funny) video.
Thank you! Appreciate it
Salut ,j adore ce silencieux,beaucoup plus jolie que l’Akrapovic,et moins chère,et super son ,sans db killer 😂👍Arow fait un collecteur en titane pour ta moto ,je l ai vue c est très jolie ,bleu ,le bruit doit être fort sans le catalyseur 😂
Salut!
Oui, je pense que c'est génial ! Il est également plus fort que l'échappement Akrapovic qui n'a pas un son très différent de celui d'origine !
Les collecteurs en titane sont magnifiques !
Désolé si cela n'a pas de sens ! Google Translate! 😂
What gloves are you using
Those are my Gerbing XR12 heated gloves. Quite an old model now but have been replaced by the XRL I believe!
After hearing your maniacal laugh at the gorgeous sound,I bought one myself but can't figure out how to remove the baffle, I cab see where the small bolt should be but I can't figure out the size of the Allen key needed as I seem to have too small or can't tell if the next size is too big as nothing seems to ne turning. Can you advise what size the key you used is please?
Haha! The new ones are welded in so you may have to dremel the top off it! There are potential some simple edge welds on the edge of the baffle going down around the opening. Check you have those or not first. I'll have to dig out the baffle in the garage tomorrow. It was really easy to remove so the welds may be the issue. Should be really easy to remove though
@@SamVBikes wow, thanks for the quick reply Sam, I don't see any welds but I also don't feel like any Allen key is fitting or feel any reistance when i turn them and don't want to round it out . If you remember I'd be much obliged. I really want to hear it sound like the monster V twin it is.
More than welcome, I'll write a note on my forehead to remember tomorrow and come back to you. Are you on Instagram or FB? I can send pics on there of how mine is to see if its the same
It's a 3mm hex head bolt, protrudes quite obviously sitting above the level of the baffle metal. If you have no screw in there, you might have the welded one. I'm just chatting to someone else with the same thing!
Watch the vid below. Just need to grind off the subtle welds to get it out. I doubt you will need to take the can off like he has but might make it easier.
ruclips.net/video/OoN-qat_eq8/видео.html
@@SamVBikes you are a star, on closer inspection (in daylight!) it is welded which is why I’m struggling to find the Allen bolt in the small hole. Delicate dremmel surgery required. Thanks again Sam you are a top banana.
HHHHHHHHHH your reaction is so funny
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you should of revved your bike without the pipe on lol👌👌😅❤️
Haha! It was soooo loud! I was tempted though ha
Looks and sounds nice, still pricey 😭
It is! Every time I've heard a cheaper exhaust, they always drone or sound raspy which I really can't stand! At least its not as much as the Akra!
@Sam Vincent Aye, totally agree, I'm gonna hang around and see of any of the decent competition say they'll do one or wait for a 50% voucher from arrow 🤣🤣🤣 whichever is sooner. Having seen how well fuelled this bike is, I definitely don't want to change the headers. Until then, I'll continue vacuuming the roadside.
Haha! It's a shame there's not one middle priced! They are either £250 and sound crap, or £700+!
For me there is no good looking exhaust for 1290 s at the moment, they all to big
Most adventure bike exhausts are big, but I think if you could put on a smaller one on like you get on sports/naked bikes, it would look really out of place and odd. Anything is better than that small boat that comes as standard!
@@SamVBikes yeah you are right original exhaust is awful . Small stubby pipe is not good choice but something between would be good
Definitely! I'm personally all for those twin pipes under the rear arch like the old 990 adventures used to have! Those things looked awesome when swapped to Akras or Arrows haha
@@SamVBikes I had two pipes on 990 superduke , they do looks good but cook your balls sumer time 🤪
😂😂 the price we pay for good looking exhausts
Oh god, please stop spending my future money! I’ve not even got my 1290 yet and already I want to buy more shit!
😂😂😂 My channel is going to be a shopping list for you then!
@@SamVBikes Well you already contributed to me buying a bike this year - KTMs offer of 2k trade-in bonus didn’t hurt either!
Haha! Yes that's a good shout! Congrats on the new bike!
baffle out 100%
It's never gone back in 😂😂
Strawberry blonde 👱
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Talking too much 🙈
There's a direct sound only comparison on the channel too for anyone who just wants sounds comparison and doesn't want the information about the exhaust.