Prayers for your family. Bottle raising is hard under the best of circumstances. Give yourself a break. I was actually a little shocked that someone sold you goats that young that had never been introduced to bottles.
Anybody here that follows your channel knows what good caretakers you are of your animals and land. It's hard enough to deal with this but even harder in your position to make a video and edit all of those clips and keep reliving that time. Thank you for sharing your whole story even when it sucks. Keep your heads up!
From what I saw don't look like under feed they were running and playing if that's what it was surely they'd of been more laid down doing nothing or bugging you for feed ,that shelter looked warm enough, I'm more inclined to parasites or being separated to soon but I'm no animal except by a long way, don't beat yourselves up to much death of livestock happen ,maybe get older goats .
I’m so sorry you lost the baby goats. You tried so hard to give them the best life. It’s hard to say why they passed but this is a part of farming. Just this week, I know of five baby goats that passed. I think the cold weather is really hard on them. I’m glad you’ll get more but I would suggest waiting till it’s warmer and they are weaned from mama. - Sue Sweeten in AZ
Goats are tough. I very much recommend getting a trio at least 3+ months old for your first experience. Bottle babies are far more difficult than the people who sell them will tell you. By 3 months they are weaned and well started, that’s not to say they aren’t susceptible to some of the diseases that effect younger animals, but I find by that time they are far more hearty. Also, with bottle babies, you’re far more likely to lose them from over feeding rather than slightly under feeding. It sounds more like that was the case based on the foaming at the mouth you described. It’s a super common way for new goat owners to lose bottle babies. That and feeding when their body temperature is too low because their rumen won’t function properly. Losing bottle babies is absolutely heart wrenching, I’m very sorry for your loss. I’ve been there, goats are such wonderful animals losing one hurts a lot.
That's gotta hurt, sorry for your loss. 😪 Bottle feeding is always risky, especially since they weren't used to it. Just a fragile situation overall. Thanks for sharing, it can't be easy for you.
It could have been anything from pneumonia to worms to lysteriosis. My only recommendation is 1. Dam raised ruminates are generally healthier overall and 2. Try to get them in early spring. That way you're past the worst of the cold and before the wormload. You'll try again when you're ready and that experience will help your future goats in the long run.
Yeah man, I hate the death parts. You’re feeling the feels but I feel like you’re being really hard on yourselves. Them babies looked good🥹 until they didn’t and sometimes life on the farm just does that. It’s shitty but the best most bests happen more! Condolences, love and respect💌
So sorry for your loss. By the sudden turn and foaming, i would agree with others it probably qas something they are. Chemicals in the straw and hay perhaps. I wouls try again, but perhaps weaned or yearlings. Also, i would suggest taking the spring to get their home and enclosure built and ready before bringing them home. Yes Homestead life is hard, but feel it, learn from it and perservere. Youve got this.
Foaming at the mouth is also something you see in pneumonia, listeriosis, polio, or even from grinding their teeth due to pain. There's a lot of things that cause it. But it can absolutely be from ingested material. Without a necropsy there's no way to be sure. Poor little things and what a hit to the Homestead. Hopefully next time will go smoother.
I’m so sorry for your loss but you can’t beat yourself up, from what I saw, you and your family loved and cared for those little goat babies, I’m surprised the Vet didn’t suggest doing an autopsy to see what went wrong or maybe he did but it was way to expensive to do. I’m glad you have decided to get some more goats because that’s how you learn to raise farm animals, all the do’s and don’t s, good luck ♥️🙏🏻🇨🇦
Having a necropsy done would definitely have helped in trying to find a reason for both of them passing. If new goats are in the future perhaps taking them to a vet for an exam and discussing the proper care of raising goats.
Nooooo! That sucks so bad. :( but all you can do is the best that you know how. You're good people with good hearts 💕and IMHO it really doesn't seem to be anything you're personally responsible for. Try not to be so hard on yourselves. Sometimes awful things just happen. So sorry for your loss. They were so dang cute and adorable. Poor little guys. 🙏R.I.P. kids. 💘 Now get up and get back out there and get a few more baby goats to help patch up ALL of our collective hearts!
So sorry for this loss. The goats were so precious. Maybe you will never know but you did your very best. They may have been sick since birth. Be gentle on yourself.
Tom I'm so very sorry this happened. Please don't kick yourself. Since it was both maybe it was the breeder. They may have let them go to early and probably should have had them completely weaned and on bottles for you. It looked like you did everything right. They certainly looked very healthy. And yes you are awesome homesteaders.
I feel your heart break and I'm so sorry for your loss 💔 We love and learn 🙏🏻 and with your help We ALL learned so Thank you for sharing everything you learn 🤗 GOD Bless you and your Family ❣️🙏🏻❣️
I know you took great care of those babies. The Eddys lost baby goats this week and they’ve been raising goats for a while. Hopefully you can try again. You did your very best.
Sorry for your loss!! Please don’t give up! Goats are amazing to have! I suggest getting full sized breeds and getting adults when you can. Alpine, Nubian, sannen are all good options. With the foaming at the mouth it sounds like it could have been acidosis. This happens with abrupt changes in feed. Which I’m sure switching to the bottle it could happen and the cold could make them super sensitive. Don’t give up!! We believe in you guys
Sooo sorry for this loss of your adorable goats 😢. Thank you for sharing this terribly sad experience with your viewers - we sorrow with you. Loss and hard times are all part of life - even more for you as homesteaders.
Prayers and hugs for you and your family. This is hard. I’m sorry for your loss. You and your family take wonderful care of your animals. Big challenges - bottle feeding and super cold temps. There’s a reason most babies come in the spring. I’m happy you are courageous enough to try again. 💕
I'm so sorry to hear that this happened to you. Three years ago I brought home two little doelings. About a week and a half of having them, one of them was sick. The next morning she died. I called our livestock vet and asked if they could do a necropsy. I took both girls in. They did a fecal on the one that died and found lots of coccidia. No necropsy necessary. My other little girl had it too. Luckily we were able to treat her and one other little one that we had. I contacted my breeder and she was devastated. They had never had a problem before. She got all of her babies treated that day. That night the litter mate to my goat died too. Everyone else did fine. I ended up getting another doeling from her. From that time, I have ended up with nine goats. At first I was obsessed with having fecal testing done. I have settled down, but did have one done the other day on a doe for a different reason and it was completely clean. I understand your pain. I felt like I should have known the symptoms and I let her down. I learned a lot very quickly. My advice to you is to find someone that you can bounce things off of when you're worried. Establish a good relationship with a vet. When you're worried about something, don't be afraid to call the vet. Goats don't give you much warning that they are sick. Spend a lot of time with your goats and get to know them and their personalities. Then you will notice suttel changes. You can do this and you will fall in love with having goats. But learn all that you can. They're very special. God bless!
I'm so sorry, I know how heartbreaking this is and I know you feel as though you could've or should've done something 'differently'. Maybe but also maybe no. Forgive yourself, research and do everything you can for a better outcome next time. Our first flock of chickens, we bought 28 birds from a very small hatchery we found on Craigslist. At the beginning of the following spring, exactly one year later, all but one had died. We experienced so many issues with those poor birds, I can't list them all here but ultimately I am convinced we just purchased unhealthy stock. We felt exactly like you feel right now, so I completely understand. We learned a lot from that first flock, we cried a lot, the lessons were hard and they all sucked. The experience has helped us since to be able to face many chicken issues and maladies head on. At these times it's important to remember the wise words of Joel Salatin "where there's livestock, there's deadstock". It sounds harsh and it's not too be taken lightly but sometimes it's also the reality of animal husbandry. Be kind to yourself and take care. ❤️
Don't be too hard on yourself. You did the best you could. Sometimes, things just happen, it's not what we want, but we move forward and try again. Hugs!😢
Sorry about your loss, I know it hurts. It's not easy bottle feeding. I have done it once and had the opposite problem. My daughter was feeding it to much. She lived but barely. She also had some parasites that was causing her to never be satisficed and was always hungry. The vet taught us a lot. We learned and so will you. We then got some older goats and supplemented bottle feeding as we wanted them to be friendly. That worked well. You will do better next time. Its never easy when you first start with a new animal you have never had. Hang in there you will do better next time.
I'm sorry for all you're going through. Please let us know when you find out more, as we will be adding dairy goats to our homestead after we get on our property and get ready for them.
sorry to hear about your loss man. a couple of weeks ago, i almost lost some chickens to an opossum that broke into my coop. keep your head up, live and learn, and keep up the good work! Cheers!
I grew up on a farm but never worked with the animals. Two years ago we decided to get chickens and rabbits. Definitely a learning curve. I bought a book on backyard chickens and it has been very helpful. We haven't lost any chickens, yet. But the rabbits have been harder. Our inexperience resulted in us not noticing signs of a problem. By the time we realized there was a problem and reached out to an expert, it was too late. We have lost several rabbits. It is the hard truth of inexperience. Study up and learn to be very observant is my best advice. So sorry and your remorse is evident.
Sorry to hear about your goats. There is a saying if you have live stock you will have dead stock. What milk did you use I always use powdered lambs milk if the nanny is not able to feed them. And never feed cows milk. I hope you do not give up on keeping goats they are fantastic animals. Good luck
Thanks for sharing you and your families journey of homesteading the good and the bad. These things happen and all you can do is learn from them. You only know what you know, keep on keeping on. I'm excited to continue watching your videos.
I am so sorry yall had to experience this...don't let this discourage you. 😢 Goats are not the easiest animals. A bit of advice I could give, which I'm sure you've already heard, is when temps are low outside be sure that the kids temp is appropriate for feeding. I would probably start with an older goat that is weaned. I don't rehome any of mine before they are weaned. Hang in there😌
So sorry for your loss. It is so hard to lose an animal, especially when you might have made a mistake to cause it. I've been there and I think all homesteaders have. Live and learn. I'm glad you'll get goats again; they really are so so fun and amazing animals.
Give it some time learn and keep moving. No doubt y'all take good care of your animals. Hang in there and I know God is helping you through this time of loss. God Bless you and praying for you and your family.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Two possible reasons come to mind given the info you shared - (1) ingestion of poisonous plants in your yard, like Azalea or Yew, or (2) bacterial bloom from the change in diet (enterotoxemia). Were you feeding powdered milk replacer, because unfortunately it is all too commonly implicated in the death of young kids.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with your families loss. I can only imagine how hard this was. Our prayers and encouragement to help you push forward in your homestead endeavors.
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for being brave and sharing with others. These things sadly happen. It isn't easy. I hope you can push forward and learn from the sad experience. No matter how hard we try and all we learn, sometimes it gets tough. I have lived on a homestead all my life and I found it important to mourn any loss, but move forward in celebrating the successes. I agree that bottle feeding is risky and can result in many issues in small animals, but you will gather information and understanding and try again with the extra knowledge you will gain. May your family feel peace at this time. 💕
You’re doing the best you can. You’re putting yourselves out there and trying. Everyone makes mistakes. Try to ignore all the mean comments you’re no doubt going to get. The great thing about this channel is you share real life- the good and the bad, helping other people to learn along with you.
Hang in there, when you first got them I was thinking oh man like the worst possible time, right before that deep freeze and not weaned yet. I’m no goat expert but from watching Dr Pol they are prone to alot of different issues. Parasites, certain vitamin deficiencies, they get neurological problems. Try them again in spring with weaned ones. 👍🏻
First time we had goats we adopted, there's always people out there trying to rehome animals. Sure it's not as special because most of the time they're not babies, but I've learned it's best to get babies when the weather is warmer. First time we got a bottle baby they practically took it from it's mom because it was a twin and they said mom wasn't producing enough milk for two. That baby cried so much the next two day it lost it's little voice, he's doing good now, but it's sad and we probably won't do that again. We have had a goat get mange and we are in the process of caring for it, there is a lot to learn with them! Hope you all stay strong during these difficult times and sorry to hear about animals, it is rough.
I’m heartbroken for you guys. Losing any animals, especially babies is incredibly hard. 😢 It looks like you did everything you could. Sometimes the stress of moving can cause diseases to present. Praying for comfort for you and your family.
I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. I really admire y’all for showing us the good and the bad of homesteading, your honesty helps us so much. You always do your best for your animals, teaching us, and thank you for that! I know this is part of farming and that you did everything you could. It’s just going to happen sometimes. I am so sorry.
get them in spring if u can so b4 the cold they have grown and acclimated and grown. be sure u deworm them when they arrive. death is part of homesteading however learning from it is important. i look 4ward to seeing the new babies. God bless.
That sucks. Sorry for your loss. Goats are pretty hardy when it comes to the cold and they're also pretty vocal if they're hungry. I think you'd have known if they wanted more milk. Foaming at the mouth makes me think something they ate .... any leaves in the yard that could be toxic? It's horrible. I've lost goats sadly - mostly to them eating stuff they shouldn't. Steep learning curve.
I have to say I haven’t raised goats before, but in my research they are some of the most difficult animals to raise, sorry for your heartbreaking experience. 😢
Dang, I am so sorry to hear this. My heart breaks for y'all! I recommend getting weaned babies in the future. We personally are putting down a deposit on three goats this week and we will get them in April when they are weaned. I feel like it would be a lot to bottle raise. Also I know it hurts but don't beat yourself up and never give up. Everything is a learning experience. Sending prayers y'all's way!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry that this happened, but I appreciate the honesty about what happened. I would like to have goats somewhere in the future. I have chickens and I’ve learned so much from your content. Thank you!
So sorry to hear! I was enjoying the goats since we are getting some. So one thing I’ve been told is they can’t have straw on the ground because even though they can eat anything they can’t eat their own poop. It can cause little worms in their eyes and then they pass very soon after. Idk that’s what happened but what the breeder told me that we are getting ours from.
I’m sorry for your loss. It’s devastating to lose a pet. Any pet!! You did your best. ❤ Maybe consider deworming your entire animal population. I don’t have goats, but with my outdoor animals, we feed “hot soupy grain and/or alfalfa” when the temps are super low in Minnesota. Even the chickens appreciate warm beans & rice. 🌾 all in appropriate quantities. We prayed. No shame in Jesus name. 😊Shalom
My heart goes out to you! My humble suggestion is to seek out and purchase a couple impregnated nannys. Honesty, nobody raises babies better than mommys! If you end up with little billy goats, you can sell them! If you end up with more little girls, you can look forward to plenty of milk, and you can even make and sell lots of highly valuable soap, creams, and even cheese! Plus, you and your family will be blessed by seeing the birth of those precious babies! Just like you blessed us with the video of you and your family's addition to your family! Ignore the useless idiots that try to make you feel guilty! You and your family are a blessing to us all!
Sorry for your loss, I don't think it was under feeding but it's always hard to no exactly what it was. Don't give up on having goats. Find a good mentor, someone who has raised goats for a long time and they can help you. knowing what to do. Prayers for you and your family
Very sorry for your loss. Goats can be tricky. Having a goat mentor especially in your area can be really helpful. If you have anyone available and willing to help. Also your veteranian could perform an autopsy which could be helpful to try and pinpoint what happened. Which I tend agree with some others that is more likely parasites or coccidiosis rather than not eating enough. Farming is a lifelong learning experience. Take comfort in the fact you did your best and they were well loved for the time you had them. You did a beautiful tribute and send off for them.
I'm so sorry this happened to you guys. It's definitely all an experience we can learn from. According to the vet and what you have shared, it really doesn't seem like underfeeding to me. Obviously I'm not a vet but I have done a bunch of research on ruminants and the way their bodies process. Is it possible the hay you purchased was treated with chemicals? Is any of the wood in their shelter green treated? The body response of the one brought to the vet sounds like an accidental ingestion of something. Just a thought and maybe something to look into. Don't give up, we all have trials when it comes to this lifestyle. Next time will be a better outcome. ❤
It is heartbreaking, but it is life. It’s challenging when you realize something you did or didn’t could have lead to an animal’s unexpected demise. Been there, done that, it’s not easy but it is always a learning experience. Just a thought, I can’t remember if you said what type of milk/formula you were feeding, so I am just throwing this out there. When ruminants are older, their rumen biota make thiamine, but when they are young they need to have thiamine in the milk/formula, as well as a few other vitamins. They also need selenium, but it should be in the mineral supplement. Also, I don’t recall their stools, but if they were loose, perhaps coccidiosis. Perhaps think about a dewormer when you bring them home, and repeat in 2-3 weeks. Asking the farmer where you got them can help, you learn their routine and can adapt it for your circumstance.
send you bigOh dear... I'm sorry for what you had to experience I'm sending you lots of love from Vienna, Austria There will be bad times, but also great and exciting times to expierience Life is ups and downs Send you guys love
having had pygmy goats, lamanchas, and alpines, I would recommend alfalfa hay, and supplement with sweet grains. Don't give up but join a goat club now....I learned so much from local goat club I joined. Sign the kids up for 4H....that is so hard....they are so special I'm sooooooo so sorry. You also need to worm them or at least test them....only buy from local goat farmers who know how to tell you how to care for them. Once again, I'm sorry for your pain and loss.
Im sorry for the loss of your goats. I dont think ita anything you did. I think maybe they were sick with something. When you get them again try to get weaned babies atleast 8-10 weeks old. Again Im sorry you lost them.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I do see you getting goats again. It sure looks like a parasite, etc. So don't fret. Just baby the heck outta the next ones. You'll feel better. Shalom
I'm sorry y'all lost y'all's babies. My heart broke for y'all when you were talking about it. Hopefully at some point y'all try again. Things like that happen. Seeing y'all take care of y'all's animals, I didn't get a feeling that y'all weren't taking care of them. Y'all did y'all's best. Sorry again. thanks for posting
So precious. I know your family and you are heartbroken. They were just too young. Forgive yourself and move on wtith their memory in your heart. God bless you.
Give yourself some slack.. I’m wondering why they sold them so young without being bottle fed. We usually wean at 8 weeks and by then they eat really well. I’m sorry for your heartbreak--it’s felt even harder when your kiddos have to experience it too. I’m glad to hear you’re still willing to give it another go and have a good goat mentor to turn to. We’ve been there too couple years back, keep your heads up--lacy 🤓
I am very sorry for your loss. What did the vet say? DR Pol has a show that could be parasites, thiamine( lack of) . Don't feel bad, but if you can buy ilder goats, do so, but de worm often. Buy a breeding pair if you can. They might need more food when it is cold. You did not know. Just do your best. Maybe think about a few smal l sheep. Like shetland sheep. I would not come at you. It is hard having animals. They might need a mother to keep them warm?
Things happen...don't beat yourself up over it! You gotta just take what you can and learn from it. Get a new set of kids and start again. Don't give up! You can do it! Maybe they were just taken from their mommy too soon and nature wanted them to be on their mother's actual milk rather than supplements. They knew you loved them and you tried your best. Sorry for your loss.
Prayers for your family, I’m so sorry but try not to beat yourselves up. Those goats didn’t look underfed at all they were healthy looking and jumping around. If they were underfed they would have been lethargic and wouldn’t have been jumping and playing. Perhaps next time you can offer more milk more often to ensure they are getting enough. If it was a strange parasite perhaps it was something their mother had? Why did the original owner sell them at such a young age? Did the mother pass away from something? Could have been something before you got them since it was only 9 days. Seemed so fast for it to have been anything that you did. God bless all of you. 🥰🙏🏻❤️🍁🇨🇦
The straw or hay could have had that chemical sprayed on it.somethingvlike greyzone not sure exactly how to say it. Could have been. Have it checked for it.❤
What did those professional Goat keepers say. Anyway...farmers have been dealing with animal lose for hundreds of years...keep going...our heavenly father knows you did your best. You and your family are Godly, kind animal loving people-baby goats need your families love.
Prayers for your family. Bottle raising is hard under the best of circumstances. Give yourself a break. I was actually a little shocked that someone sold you goats that young that had never been introduced to bottles.
Anybody here that follows your channel knows what good caretakers you are of your animals and land. It's hard enough to deal with this but even harder in your position to make a video and edit all of those clips and keep reliving that time. Thank you for sharing your whole story even when it sucks. Keep your heads up!
I'm so sorry. Please don't let this discourage you from trying again. Give yourself some time to heal.
I hope you buy weaned goats and build them a shed, a polythene tent is not really good enough in the middle of winter.
From what I saw don't look like under feed they were running and playing if that's what it was surely they'd of been more laid down doing nothing or bugging you for feed ,that shelter looked warm enough, I'm more inclined to parasites or being separated to soon but I'm no animal except by a long way, don't beat yourselves up to much death of livestock happen ,maybe get older goats .
I agree that they had a parasite that young ones get from their mom at birth
I’m so sorry you lost the baby goats. You tried so hard to give them the best life. It’s hard to say why they passed but this is a part of farming. Just this week, I know of five baby goats that passed. I think the cold weather is really hard on them. I’m glad you’ll get more but I would suggest waiting till it’s warmer and they are weaned from mama. - Sue Sweeten in AZ
Goats are tough. I very much recommend getting a trio at least 3+ months old for your first experience. Bottle babies are far more difficult than the people who sell them will tell you. By 3 months they are weaned and well started, that’s not to say they aren’t susceptible to some of the diseases that effect younger animals, but I find by that time they are far more hearty. Also, with bottle babies, you’re far more likely to lose them from over feeding rather than slightly under feeding. It sounds more like that was the case based on the foaming at the mouth you described. It’s a super common way for new goat owners to lose bottle babies. That and feeding when their body temperature is too low because their rumen won’t function properly. Losing bottle babies is absolutely heart wrenching, I’m very sorry for your loss. I’ve been there, goats are such wonderful animals losing one hurts a lot.
That's gotta hurt, sorry for your loss. 😪 Bottle feeding is always risky, especially since they weren't used to it. Just a fragile situation overall. Thanks for sharing, it can't be easy for you.
It could have been anything from pneumonia to worms to lysteriosis. My only recommendation is 1. Dam raised ruminates are generally healthier overall and 2. Try to get them in early spring. That way you're past the worst of the cold and before the wormload. You'll try again when you're ready and that experience will help your future goats in the long run.
This is what I wanted to say. Agree with you 100%.
Prayers for your family. Y'all have had a difficult time. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah man, I hate the death parts. You’re feeling the feels but I feel like you’re being really hard on yourselves. Them babies looked good🥹 until they didn’t and sometimes life on the farm just does that. It’s shitty but the best most bests happen more! Condolences, love and respect💌
So sorry for your loss. By the sudden turn and foaming, i would agree with others it probably qas something they are. Chemicals in the straw and hay perhaps.
I wouls try again, but perhaps weaned or yearlings. Also, i would suggest taking the spring to get their home and enclosure built and ready before bringing them home. Yes Homestead life is hard, but feel it, learn from it and perservere. Youve got this.
Foaming at the mouth is also something you see in pneumonia, listeriosis, polio, or even from grinding their teeth due to pain. There's a lot of things that cause it. But it can absolutely be from ingested material. Without a necropsy there's no way to be sure. Poor little things and what a hit to the Homestead. Hopefully next time will go smoother.
I’m so sorry for your loss but you can’t beat yourself up, from what I saw, you and your family loved and cared for those little goat babies, I’m surprised the Vet didn’t suggest doing an autopsy to see what went wrong or maybe he did but it was way to expensive to do. I’m glad you have decided to get some more goats because that’s how you learn to raise farm animals, all the do’s and don’t s, good luck ♥️🙏🏻🇨🇦
Having a necropsy done would definitely have helped in trying to find a reason for both of them passing. If new goats are in the future perhaps taking them to a vet for an exam and discussing the proper care of raising goats.
Nooooo! That sucks so bad. :( but all you can do is the best that you know how. You're good people with good hearts 💕and IMHO it really doesn't seem to be anything you're personally responsible for. Try not to be so hard on yourselves. Sometimes awful things just happen. So sorry for your loss. They were so dang cute and adorable. Poor little guys. 🙏R.I.P. kids. 💘 Now get up and get back out there and get a few more baby goats to help patch up ALL of our collective hearts!
So sorry for this loss. The goats were so precious. Maybe you will never know but you did your very best. They may have been sick since birth. Be gentle on yourself.
Tom I'm so very sorry this happened. Please don't kick yourself. Since it was both maybe it was the breeder. They may have let them go to early and probably should have had them completely weaned and on bottles for you. It looked like you did everything right. They certainly looked very healthy. And yes you are awesome homesteaders.
I feel your heart break and I'm so sorry for your loss 💔 We love and learn 🙏🏻 and with your help We ALL learned so Thank you for sharing everything you learn 🤗
GOD Bless you and your Family ❣️🙏🏻❣️
I know you took great care of those babies. The Eddys lost baby goats this week and they’ve been raising goats for a while. Hopefully you can try again. You did your very best.
Sorry for your loss!! Please don’t give up! Goats are amazing to have! I suggest getting full sized breeds and getting adults when you can. Alpine, Nubian, sannen are all good options. With the foaming at the mouth it sounds like it could have been acidosis. This happens with abrupt changes in feed. Which I’m sure switching to the bottle it could happen and the cold could make them super sensitive. Don’t give up!! We believe in you guys
Acidosis is very common and when it happens they pass quick! There was nothing you could have done. You gave them a good life.
Sorry for our loss you guys. but things will get better. May God Bless you and yours.🐐🐐
Sooo sorry for this loss of your adorable goats 😢. Thank you for sharing this terribly sad experience with your viewers - we sorrow with you. Loss and hard times are all part of life - even more for you as homesteaders.
Prayers and hugs for you and your family. This is hard. I’m sorry for your loss. You and your family take wonderful care of your animals. Big challenges - bottle feeding and super cold temps. There’s a reason most babies come in the spring. I’m happy you are courageous enough to try again. 💕
Keep your heads up things just happen sometimes
I'm so sorry to hear that this happened to you. Three years ago I brought home two little doelings. About a week and a half of having them, one of them was sick. The next morning she died. I called our livestock vet and asked if they could do a necropsy. I took both girls in. They did a fecal on the one that died and found lots of coccidia. No necropsy necessary. My other little girl had it too. Luckily we were able to treat her and one other little one that we had. I contacted my breeder and she was devastated. They had never had a problem before. She got all of her babies treated that day. That night the litter mate to my goat died too. Everyone else did fine. I ended up getting another doeling from her. From that time, I have ended up with nine goats. At first I was obsessed with having fecal testing done. I have settled down, but did have one done the other day on a doe for a different reason and it was completely clean. I understand your pain. I felt like I should have known the symptoms and I let her down. I learned a lot very quickly. My advice to you is to find someone that you can bounce things off of when you're worried. Establish a good relationship with a vet. When you're worried about something, don't be afraid to call the vet. Goats don't give you much warning that they are sick. Spend a lot of time with your goats and get to know them and their personalities. Then you will notice suttel changes. You can do this and you will fall in love with having goats. But learn all that you can. They're very special. God bless!
I'm so sorry, I know how heartbreaking this is and I know you feel as though you could've or should've done something 'differently'. Maybe but also maybe no. Forgive yourself, research and do everything you can for a better outcome next time.
Our first flock of chickens, we bought 28 birds from a very small hatchery we found on Craigslist. At the beginning of the following spring, exactly one year later, all but one had died. We experienced so many issues with those poor birds, I can't list them all here but ultimately I am convinced we just purchased unhealthy stock. We felt exactly like you feel right now, so I completely understand.
We learned a lot from that first flock, we cried a lot, the lessons were hard and they all sucked. The experience has helped us since to be able to face many chicken issues and maladies head on. At these times it's important to remember the wise words of Joel Salatin "where there's livestock, there's deadstock". It sounds harsh and it's not too be taken lightly but sometimes it's also the reality of animal husbandry.
Be kind to yourself and take care. ❤️
Worms are the biggest killers. Don't let it stop from getting more ..itlife. hugs
Don't be too hard on yourself. You did the best you could. Sometimes, things just happen, it's not what we want, but we move forward and try again. Hugs!😢
Sorry about your loss, I know it hurts. It's not easy bottle feeding. I have done it once and had the opposite problem. My daughter was feeding it to much. She lived but barely. She also had some parasites that was causing her to never be satisficed and was always hungry. The vet taught us a lot. We learned and so will you. We then got some older goats and supplemented bottle feeding as we wanted them to be friendly. That worked well. You will do better next time. Its never easy when you first start with a new animal you have never had. Hang in there you will do better next time.
I'm sorry for all you're going through. Please let us know when you find out more, as we will be adding dairy goats to our homestead after we get on our property and get ready for them.
So very sorry 😢!
sorry to hear about your loss man. a couple of weeks ago, i almost lost some chickens to an opossum that broke into my coop. keep your head up, live and learn, and keep up the good work! Cheers!
I grew up on a farm but never worked with the animals. Two years ago we decided to get chickens and rabbits. Definitely a learning curve. I bought a book on backyard chickens and it has been very helpful. We haven't lost any chickens, yet. But the rabbits have been harder. Our inexperience resulted in us not noticing signs of a problem. By the time we realized there was a problem and reached out to an expert, it was too late. We have lost several rabbits. It is the hard truth of inexperience. Study up and learn to be very observant is my best advice. So sorry and your remorse is evident.
I am so sorry your family is dealing with this loss. Thank you so much for sharing all you do with us so we can learn with you.
Sorry to hear about your goats.
There is a saying if you have live stock you will have dead stock. What milk did you use I always use powdered lambs milk if the nanny is not able to feed them. And never feed cows milk. I hope you do not give up on keeping goats they are fantastic animals. Good luck
Thanks for sharing you and your families journey of homesteading the good and the bad. These things happen and all you can do is learn from them. You only know what you know, keep on keeping on. I'm excited to continue watching your videos.
Sorry, Tom it's hard to lose any animal you take care of. Hope you feel better about it soon.
I am so sorry yall had to experience this...don't let this discourage you. 😢 Goats are not the easiest animals. A bit of advice I could give, which I'm sure you've already heard, is when temps are low outside be sure that the kids temp is appropriate for feeding. I would probably start with an older goat that is weaned.
I don't rehome any of mine before they are weaned.
Hang in there😌
I'm so sorry for your loss man I've lost 5 chickens this winter its not easy losing animals it hurts i understand how you are feeling right now
I'm so so sorry for your loss!!! I think you guys did everything you could for them!!! God Bless Us All!!!
You seem like yall have a heart for your animals. I couldnt do what yall do. But i love a channel that cares. God bless.
Sorry for your loss, hopefully you can try again. Sending you folks caring love. ❤❤❤
I'm sorry for your loss!!!😢😢😢
So sorry for your loss. It is so hard to lose an animal, especially when you might have made a mistake to cause it. I've been there and I think all homesteaders have. Live and learn. I'm glad you'll get goats again; they really are so so fun and amazing animals.
Give it some time learn and keep moving. No doubt y'all take good care of your animals. Hang in there and I know God is helping you through this time of loss. God Bless you and praying for you and your family.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Two possible reasons come to mind given the info you shared - (1) ingestion of poisonous plants in your yard, like Azalea or Yew, or (2) bacterial bloom from the change in diet (enterotoxemia). Were you feeding powdered milk replacer, because unfortunately it is all too commonly implicated in the death of young kids.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with your families loss. I can only imagine how hard this was. Our prayers and encouragement to help you push forward in your homestead endeavors.
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for being brave and sharing with others. These things sadly happen. It isn't easy. I hope you can push forward and learn from the sad experience. No matter how hard we try and all we learn, sometimes it gets tough. I have lived on a homestead all my life and I found it important to mourn any loss, but move forward in celebrating the successes. I agree that bottle feeding is risky and can result in many issues in small animals, but you will gather information and understanding and try again with the extra knowledge you will gain. May your family feel peace at this time. 💕
Aww that's so sad, your family don't everything you possibly could 😢 sending love and hugs to you all xxxx
So sorry friends. Not your fault. ❤
I am so sorry.. Its hard when you lose animals.. I hope you dont give up on getting more goats.
Wow man! So sorry for your lose. I was thinking about those goats and why you stopped making videos on them. Keep your chin up! Life happens.
You’re doing the best you can. You’re putting yourselves out there and trying. Everyone makes mistakes. Try to ignore all the mean comments you’re no doubt going to get. The great thing about this channel is you share real life- the good and the bad, helping other people to learn along with you.
Hang in there, when you first got them I was thinking oh man like the worst possible time, right before that deep freeze and not weaned yet. I’m no goat expert but from watching Dr Pol they are prone to alot of different issues. Parasites, certain vitamin deficiencies, they get neurological problems. Try them again in spring with weaned ones. 👍🏻
First time we had goats we adopted, there's always people out there trying to rehome animals. Sure it's not as special because most of the time they're not babies, but I've learned it's best to get babies when the weather is warmer. First time we got a bottle baby they practically took it from it's mom because it was a twin and they said mom wasn't producing enough milk for two. That baby cried so much the next two day it lost it's little voice, he's doing good now, but it's sad and we probably won't do that again. We have had a goat get mange and we are in the process of caring for it, there is a lot to learn with them! Hope you all stay strong during these difficult times and sorry to hear about animals, it is rough.
I’m heartbroken for you guys. Losing any animals, especially babies is incredibly hard. 😢 It looks like you did everything you could. Sometimes the stress of moving can cause diseases to present. Praying for comfort for you and your family.
I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. I really admire y’all for showing us the good and the bad of homesteading, your honesty helps us so much. You always do your best for your animals, teaching us, and thank you for that! I know this is part of farming and that you did everything you could. It’s just going to happen sometimes. I am so sorry.
im so sorry for your loss! prayers to you and your family
get them in spring if u can so b4 the cold they have grown and acclimated and grown. be sure u deworm them when they arrive. death is part of homesteading however learning from it is important. i look 4ward to seeing the new babies. God bless.
You did your best. That's all anyone can do. May the Lord bring you peace of mind.
Sending love to you and your family. It's never easy losing a pet / fur baby. 😢
That sucks. Sorry for your loss. Goats are pretty hardy when it comes to the cold and they're also pretty vocal if they're hungry. I think you'd have known if they wanted more milk. Foaming at the mouth makes me think something they ate .... any leaves in the yard that could be toxic?
It's horrible. I've lost goats sadly - mostly to them eating stuff they shouldn't. Steep learning curve.
So sorry 😢 it happens but you can learn, don’t beat yourselves up. Keep going is all you can do, prayers 🙏🙏🙏
I have to say I haven’t raised goats before, but in my research they are some of the most difficult animals to raise, sorry for your heartbreaking experience. 😢
Dang, I am so sorry to hear this. My heart breaks for y'all!
I recommend getting weaned babies in the future. We personally are putting down a deposit on three goats this week and we will get them in April when they are weaned.
I feel like it would be a lot to bottle raise. Also I know it hurts but don't beat yourself up and never give up. Everything is a learning experience. Sending prayers y'all's way!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry that this happened, but I appreciate the honesty about what happened. I would like to have goats somewhere in the future. I have chickens and I’ve learned so much from your content. Thank you!
You might look into goat polio. Just a suggestion but it has something to do with a lack of a vitamin, I believe B12 .
Patara at Appalachia's Homestead with Patara just had a goat become ill. She believed polio and she nursed it back to health.
So sorry to hear! I was enjoying the goats since we are getting some. So one thing I’ve been told is they can’t have straw on the ground because even though they can eat anything they can’t eat their own poop. It can cause little worms in their eyes and then they pass very soon after. Idk that’s what happened but what the breeder told me that we are getting ours from.
I’m sorry for your loss. It’s devastating to lose a pet. Any pet!!
You did your best. ❤
Maybe consider deworming your entire animal population. I don’t have goats, but with my outdoor animals, we feed “hot soupy grain and/or alfalfa” when the temps are super low in Minnesota. Even the chickens appreciate warm beans & rice. 🌾 all in appropriate quantities.
We prayed. No shame in Jesus name. 😊Shalom
I’m so sorry for your loss 😢🙏🏻❤️
My heart goes out to you!
My humble suggestion is to seek out and purchase a couple impregnated nannys. Honesty, nobody raises babies better than mommys!
If you end up with little billy goats, you can sell them! If you end up with more little girls, you can look forward to plenty of milk, and you can even make and sell lots of highly valuable soap, creams, and even cheese!
Plus, you and your family will be blessed by seeing the birth of those precious babies!
Just like you blessed us with the video of you and your family's addition to your family!
Ignore the useless idiots that try to make you feel guilty!
You and your family are a blessing to us all!
Sorry for your loss, I don't think it was under feeding but it's always hard to no exactly what it was. Don't give up on having goats. Find a good mentor, someone who has raised goats for a long time and they can help you.
knowing what to do. Prayers for you and your family
Haven on Earth raises goats too. Small homestead in Oklahoma-She might have closure for you on some answers. Our condolences 💐
Sorry about that Tom, prayers up. I lost my favorite duck last week so I know the pain. 🙏💔
Very sorry for your loss. Goats can be tricky. Having a goat mentor especially in your area can be really helpful. If you have anyone available and willing to help. Also your veteranian could perform an autopsy which could be helpful to try and pinpoint what happened. Which I tend agree with some others that is more likely parasites or coccidiosis rather than not eating enough. Farming is a lifelong learning experience. Take comfort in the fact you did your best and they were well loved for the time you had them. You did a beautiful tribute and send off for them.
Ty acres of adventure. Awww, sorry abt the loss. Learning the hard lessons of life helps us grow. Many blessings to yous
So sad sorry for you loss
Sorry for everyone! It’s tough when you lose an animal!
I'm so sorry this happened to you guys. It's definitely all an experience we can learn from. According to the vet and what you have shared, it really doesn't seem like underfeeding to me. Obviously I'm not a vet but I have done a bunch of research on ruminants and the way their bodies process. Is it possible the hay you purchased was treated with chemicals? Is any of the wood in their shelter green treated? The body response of the one brought to the vet sounds like an accidental ingestion of something. Just a thought and maybe something to look into. Don't give up, we all have trials when it comes to this lifestyle. Next time will be a better outcome. ❤
It is heartbreaking, but it is life. It’s challenging when you realize something you did or didn’t could have lead to an animal’s unexpected demise. Been there, done that, it’s not easy but it is always a learning experience.
Just a thought, I can’t remember if you said what type of milk/formula you were feeding, so I am just throwing this out there. When ruminants are older, their rumen biota make thiamine, but when they are young they need to have thiamine in the milk/formula, as well as a few other vitamins. They also need selenium, but it should be in the mineral supplement.
Also, I don’t recall their stools, but if they were loose, perhaps coccidiosis. Perhaps think about a dewormer when you bring them home, and repeat in 2-3 weeks. Asking the farmer where you got them can help, you learn their routine and can adapt it for your circumstance.
send you bigOh dear... I'm sorry for what you had to experience
I'm sending you lots of love from Vienna, Austria
There will be bad times, but also great and exciting times to expierience
Life is ups and downs
Send you guys love
Learning curve, stuff happens that's how you learn that's all .
having had pygmy goats, lamanchas, and alpines, I would recommend alfalfa hay, and supplement with sweet grains. Don't give up but join a goat club now....I learned so much from local goat club I joined. Sign the kids up for 4H....that is so hard....they are so special I'm sooooooo so sorry. You also need to worm them or at least test them....only buy from local goat farmers who know how to tell you how to care for them. Once again, I'm sorry for your pain and loss.
Yes! Newbies should NEVER buy from the auction. I know they didn't, but still.
Sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry ❤
Im sorry for the loss of your goats. I dont think ita anything you did. I think maybe they were sick with something. When you get them again try to get weaned babies atleast 8-10 weeks old. Again Im sorry you lost them.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I do see you getting goats again. It sure looks like a parasite, etc. So don't fret. Just baby the heck outta the next ones. You'll feel better. Shalom
I'm sorry y'all lost y'all's babies. My heart broke for y'all when you were talking about it. Hopefully at some point y'all try again. Things like that happen. Seeing y'all take care of y'all's animals, I didn't get a feeling that y'all weren't taking care of them. Y'all did y'all's best. Sorry again. thanks for posting
So precious. I know your family and you are heartbroken. They were just too young. Forgive yourself and move on wtith their memory in your heart. God bless you.
Give yourself some slack.. I’m wondering why they sold them so young without being bottle fed.
We usually wean at 8 weeks and by then they eat really well.
I’m sorry for your heartbreak--it’s felt even harder when your kiddos have to experience it too.
I’m glad to hear you’re still willing to give it another go and have a good goat mentor to turn to.
We’ve been there too couple years back, keep your heads up--lacy 🤓
I am very sorry for your loss. What did the vet say? DR Pol has a show that could be parasites, thiamine( lack of) . Don't feel bad, but if you can buy ilder goats, do so, but de worm often. Buy a breeding pair if you can. They might need more food when it is cold. You did not know. Just do your best. Maybe think about a few smal l sheep. Like shetland sheep.
I would not come at you. It is hard having animals.
They might need a mother to keep them warm?
Things happen...don't beat yourself up over it! You gotta just take what you can and learn from it. Get a new set of kids and start again. Don't give up! You can do it! Maybe they were just taken from their mommy too soon and nature wanted them to be on their mother's actual milk rather than supplements. They knew you loved them and you tried your best. Sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry for your loss.
Prayers for your family, I’m so sorry but try not to beat yourselves up. Those goats didn’t look underfed at all they were healthy looking and jumping around. If they were underfed they would have been lethargic and wouldn’t have been jumping and playing. Perhaps next time you can offer more milk more often to ensure they are getting enough. If it was a strange parasite perhaps it was something their mother had? Why did the original owner sell them at such a young age? Did the mother pass away from something? Could have been something before you got them since it was only 9 days. Seemed so fast for it to have been anything that you did. God bless all of you. 🥰🙏🏻❤️🍁🇨🇦
i’m so sorry you lost them
The straw or hay could have had that chemical sprayed on it.somethingvlike greyzone not sure exactly how to say it. Could have been. Have it checked for it.❤
So so sorry ❤prayers
Love and learn keep trying you can't give up , Godbless
My heart breaks for you and your family.
It's the hardest part of homesteading, 😢
What did those professional Goat keepers say. Anyway...farmers have been dealing with animal lose for hundreds of years...keep going...our heavenly father knows you did your best. You and your family are Godly, kind animal loving people-baby goats need your families love.