If it was never more apparent it should be now when designing a head sculpt you should never try and rush one out because it’s obvious. A human face especially a female who has scars and makeup needs to be executed properly and with skill. It’s crazy to me these huge companies release figures that look this off. I would have seen in the render that I wasn’t in love with it and maybe even started from scratch. Bro you own the company and YOU have the ability to go to the drawing board at any point. Bobby may not want to believe it but his mistakes are keeping new people and fence sitters from actually making the jump.
What's wrong with the headsculpt? Is it just the design you don't like? It seems pretty well built and painted as far as I can tell, but it's not a look that many like. That's subjective more than anything. I'm sure Bobby liked the design and ok'd it. Unless it was supposed to be something else then he'd rectify it like with Siege's butterfly joints and Atlas's waist.
Awesome review love seeing all the Pandoras together. I just ordered mine fingers crossed for a bloody one. Doubtful I don't have any luck i never win anything.
I like all of the named females: Kill-Switch, Eclipse, Pandora, and Gemini. I really like the white leather biker look. It looks like something she wears for special occasions. I do not care for the head sculpts on the biker version. The original head sculpts were great. I'll just swap one of the older heads onto the biker body. I got the white variant 2 days ago, non-bloody. I just bought her outright. I don't care for any of the bloody versions. Excellent video. Loved all the comparisons between bloody, exclusive, and Pandora figures. I wish the Pandora gear packs were still in stock on the valaverse site to see if there was a spike in sales in conjunction with the Pandora exclusive figures due to the gear pack containing alternate head sculpts for the previous Pandora release.
I feel like there def would have been a spike. I'd have gotten some more of the Pandora packs if they were available lol. I'm hoping for a Kill Switch rerelease as I was late to the game when she was out and can't spend the aftermarket price. But her yelling head sculpt pack is a decent alternative, I just also want the red/gray combo outfit body to customize, too.
I love all of these. We're lucky we even have this sh*t these days. I own three of the reissue Pandora's and will also be ordering two for each of these two versions. 😎👍 And, All of the Condors are 💯 Got two of the Bone Collector, no bloody ones. 😔 See you outside the wire. ***Ordered one using Action Points. Had to do it at least once.***
I didn't mess with the points mail in option this time. The price without was acceptable so I ordered two. I'm not a fan of the bloody variants but I like this pants/jacket combo. Mine are on the way so we'll see if I end up with a variant or not.
Cool review for this version of Pandora. I’ve got a liking for the biker gang version, whish I’d known about that release. I’m sure it’s more than one new vanguard atp. 😂
I absolutely dislike this particular version of the figure. It is mostly the headsculpt I dislike. The hair doesn't gently blend into the scalp, so it looks like she's wearing a beanie. The harsh lipstick and the comical facial expressions. The original headsculpt is awesome and when you put it on that new body, I almost wanted the figure! I might track down the black outfit and then swap heads.
I got the black one. I may pick up the white one. I agree the previous head looks better. Maybe if the red on the lips was more subtle. I indeed like hat crazy gang members will come in series six.
i purchased the Double pack of mail away condor and pandora and the all black pandora, Pandora, Eclipse and Trigger actually the only characters that i like in the Action Force line all the other ones i got are steel brigade or no name troopers
Bobby, I picked up the exclusive mail away bundle. I paid for it no points. Non bloody Pandora was received. They were purchased with two Crimson Shadow Praetorians..I have one convention exclusive Praetorian and now these. I normally prefer clean paint apps. A great review.✌️
I did both options for this exclusive, since I wanted one to be sent right away with my other items in the order I did a separate one with points to get a couple more. I got the variant bloody one as well so I'm waiting on the clean ones. Does anyone know what the process is, do they contact you with a separate email once they get the points and process the order?
I know bobby loves this character but i wish he'd give some other characters more love. I have more than enough condors and pandoras. and i'm not even a big fan of pandora. Also i feel like the red guns should have come with the original. they seemed saved specifically to sell the weapons pack. which i get. gotta make money. I'm surprised he didn't do points only for at least a year. i thought that was a good balance to make sure people with points could get the figure. weirdly i like the bloody commando version of her, but prefer the clean biker one to the bloody.
I'm debating it. It's the look I like, but that head sculpt I feel needs some work. It just looks like her features are all pushed forward rather than sitting across the bone structure. The snarling face looks like a couple roller derby girls I dated in the long long ago so there is nostalgia in that direction.
Customizer question : Would it be possible to switch out the white / red shirts/tanktops between the 2 (non bloody) Exclusive Pandoras to create an all black and red version and an all white and red version?
What was Bobby thinking? This Pandora is a hot freakin mess. The head sculpt is super weird looking. The blood splatter looks ridiculous, so messy. Doesn’t make sense to me. I passed on the original Pandora, definitely passing on this. Just my opinion.
@ I think the only head sculpt that looks ok with the blood variant is the OG one the new ones are beat they look like the joker and just dumb for that particular figure
Bad face sculpt is a hard pass for me. I probably would have mailed for it if the face was closer to the old version. Bloody variant isn’t a selling point for me on any of these figures. As for this or any points discount, nice to have, and I have way more than enough. But getting points is not a reason why I would pick up a figure I don’t really want.
Enjoyed the review, but, Never liked that Pandora figure!!! IMHO, That Face is Hideous. I have Eclipse and Killstrike and some Steel Brigade Females. Vala can make what he wants and folks can buy what they what they want. Action Force is a case by case basis for me. Looking forward to more Interesting Reviews of Strange and Eclectic figures!!! Peace!!!
The head sculpts for Pandora, all of them, are a total dealkiller for me. They are terrible. Also, I hate to say it but more generally I don't like the female body mold Valaverse uses. It seems janky and badly proportioned compared to the best Classified and even Marvel Legends female figures.
I probably won't go for the bloody variant but I actually do like the leather jacket look as well. That face is not working for me lol! Maybe it is better in hand🎉🎉🎉
The points thing was a fun gimmick to revisit once, but I don't believe it's that good of a deal. Mostly because their shipping is too high. It should just be points + S/H or points + $14. Having said that, I absolutely hate Pandora. I hate the newest designs even more than the first. Especially that head sculpt. It's so goofy looking! Lol!
See this is why I had to pass lol Bobby said you couldn't ask for a "clean" one... Does anyone like this look? next to every one else on the shelf? for points for overseas is prob cheaper just to buy the figure :P
I think it depends on each individual collector, but that's how I got my Bloody Bone Collector, the guy that picked him up for me scored it but wanted the clean look so he hooked me up
I think it’s stupid that you can just buy the mail aways. He literally has gone back on everything he’s said about exclusives. If he would have been more forthcoming I would have never destroyed all my boxes! Talks shit about Hasbro and does the same shit!
no, thank you that's freaking bull. Crap man it's your pay points plus shipping you have to come up with something really super nice for me to ever buy anything out for his company again thumbs down forever. it should've been points plus shipping
If it was never more apparent it should be now when designing a head sculpt you should never try and rush one out because it’s obvious. A human face especially a female who has scars and makeup needs to be executed properly and with skill. It’s crazy to me these huge companies release figures that look this off. I would have seen in the render that I wasn’t in love with it and maybe even started from scratch. Bro you own the company and YOU have the ability to go to the drawing board at any point. Bobby may not want to believe it but his mistakes are keeping new people and fence sitters from actually making the jump.
I'm not sure if it's rushed or what, but it seems like this wasn't checked between design and production to a good bit of people
What's wrong with the headsculpt? Is it just the design you don't like? It seems pretty well built and painted as far as I can tell, but it's not a look that many like. That's subjective more than anything. I'm sure Bobby liked the design and ok'd it. Unless it was supposed to be something else then he'd rectify it like with Siege's butterfly joints and Atlas's waist.
@@Rakerong 100% agree
I dont understand why he keeps making pandora variants
Pandora is going into direct competition with Baroness for most variants...
@A-n-d-r-e---T-h-e---G-i-a-n-t more like snake eyes
Awesome review love seeing all the Pandoras together. I just ordered mine fingers crossed for a bloody one. Doubtful I don't have any luck i never win anything.
I like all of the named females: Kill-Switch, Eclipse, Pandora, and Gemini. I really like the white leather biker look. It looks like something she wears for special occasions. I do not care for the head sculpts on the biker version. The original head sculpts were great. I'll just swap one of the older heads onto the biker body. I got the white variant 2 days ago, non-bloody. I just bought her outright. I don't care for any of the bloody versions.
Excellent video. Loved all the comparisons between bloody, exclusive, and Pandora figures. I wish the Pandora gear packs were still in stock on the valaverse site to see if there was a spike in sales in conjunction with the Pandora exclusive figures due to the gear pack containing alternate head sculpts for the previous Pandora release.
I feel like there def would have been a spike. I'd have gotten some more of the Pandora packs if they were available lol.
I'm hoping for a Kill Switch rerelease as I was late to the game when she was out and can't spend the aftermarket price. But her yelling head sculpt pack is a decent alternative, I just also want the red/gray combo outfit body to customize, too.
Mine is on the way. I just did the purchase. She looks great.
I love all of these. We're lucky we even have this sh*t these days. I own three of the reissue Pandora's and will also be ordering two for each of these two versions. 😎👍
And, All of the Condors are 💯
Got two of the Bone Collector, no bloody ones. 😔
See you outside the wire.
***Ordered one using Action Points. Had to do it at least once.***
I got plenty of points, but when both options went up, I figured it would take me longer to mail it in, so I just went with the full price.
lol loser
I didn't mess with the points mail in option this time. The price without was acceptable so I ordered two. I'm not a fan of the bloody variants but I like this pants/jacket combo. Mine are on the way so we'll see if I end up with a variant or not.
You'll have to let me know if you get it! I thought Covert Condor was pricey originally without points but I could be mistaken
Great review. Love how you open up Pandora’s box. I might grab this one. I got the reissue. If I grab this one I’m using the points.
Cool review for this version of Pandora. I’ve got a liking for the biker gang version, whish I’d known about that release. I’m sure it’s more than one new vanguard atp. 😂
Great review. I sent 80 points for 4 figures. Seems like a fun figure to change the heads on .
Aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh great video, I knew it was alot of Pandoras but damn 🏴☠️💪🏾🔥
I absolutely dislike this particular version of the figure. It is mostly the headsculpt I dislike. The hair doesn't gently blend into the scalp, so it looks like she's wearing a beanie. The harsh lipstick and the comical facial expressions. The original headsculpt is awesome and when you put it on that new body, I almost wanted the figure! I might track down the black outfit and then swap heads.
I sent points for two. Crossing my fingers that one will be bloody.
I got the black one. I may pick up the white one. I agree the previous head looks better. Maybe if the red on the lips was more subtle. I indeed like hat crazy gang members will come in series six.
A first-rate review of a first-rate set!
By the way, I bought the exclusive bundle.
That’s what I called her temu Harley Quinn 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
My biggest issue are the head sculpts. Everything from the neck down is fire but hate the looks of those heads.
I do like the black leather look.
Yeah it's a good upgrade for her look except that head
Great content as always, Bee, thanks. I've been on the hold to see what else valaverse drop.
There are some whispers of a Feb drop, whether is SDS or the next wave, who knows
i purchased the Double pack of mail away condor and pandora and the all black pandora, Pandora, Eclipse and Trigger actually the only characters that i like in the Action Force line all the other ones i got are steel brigade or no name troopers
Trigger is my favorite
Bobby, I picked up the exclusive mail away bundle. I paid for it no points. Non bloody Pandora was received. They were purchased with two Crimson Shadow Praetorians..I have one convention exclusive Praetorian and now these. I normally prefer clean paint apps. A great review.✌️
I did both options for this exclusive, since I wanted one to be sent right away with my other items in the order I did a separate one with points to get a couple more.
I got the variant bloody one as well so I'm waiting on the clean ones. Does anyone know what the process is, do they contact you with a separate email once they get the points and process the order?
@Rakerong I have no idea unfortunately, for Condor I just took my points to Joefest
I know bobby loves this character but i wish he'd give some other characters more love. I have more than enough condors and pandoras. and i'm not even a big fan of pandora. Also i feel like the red guns should have come with the original. they seemed saved specifically to sell the weapons pack. which i get. gotta make money. I'm surprised he didn't do points only for at least a year. i thought that was a good balance to make sure people with points could get the figure. weirdly i like the bloody commando version of her, but prefer the clean biker one to the bloody.
I'm debating it. It's the look I like, but that head sculpt I feel needs some work. It just looks like her features are all pushed forward rather than sitting across the bone structure. The snarling face looks like a couple roller derby girls I dated in the long long ago so there is nostalgia in that direction.
😂😂😂
I scored the bloody bone collecter😅
Customizer question : Would it be possible to switch out the white / red shirts/tanktops between the 2 (non bloody) Exclusive Pandoras to create an all black and red version and an all white and red version?
@Fenrizfur Yes, Action Force figures are all interchangeable (males with males, females with females) so that can get done with some heat
What was Bobby thinking? This Pandora is a hot freakin mess. The head sculpt is super weird looking. The blood splatter looks ridiculous, so messy. Doesn’t make sense to me. I passed on the original Pandora, definitely passing on this. Just my opinion.
I agree love pandora but these are just a No
The heads look like clowns.
Thank you!!! I said something on his facebook post and how this head sculpt is a no …and he got kinda butt hurt about it
@ I think the only head sculpt that looks ok with the blood variant is the OG one the new ones are beat they look like the joker and just dumb for that particular figure
It is a very cool looking figure but it got too much blood on it for me
would be awesome to see a video on you 25th anniversary collection, the hiya toys reviews were cool love the channel
Yeah. I'm really not about it. I have the points so I may send in for the $9.99 mail in. But I doubt it
Bad face sculpt is a hard pass for me. I probably would have mailed for it if the face was closer to the old version. Bloody variant isn’t a selling point for me on any of these figures. As for this or any points discount, nice to have, and I have way more than enough. But getting points is not a reason why I would pick up a figure I don’t really want.
Congrats on getting the 1 in 500 variant, mate.
To anyone who may find their way here and has a problem with that, go argue with a rubbish bin.
My printer is down so I paid the full price no points.
He literally stole the female Corps fig Snakebite's design.
I forgot about that one!
skipped her liked v1 but none of the remakes
Is she suffering a CVA?
Enjoyed the review, but, Never liked that Pandora figure!!! IMHO, That Face is Hideous. I have Eclipse and Killstrike and some Steel Brigade Females. Vala can make what he wants and folks can buy what they what they want. Action Force is a case by case basis for me. Looking forward to more Interesting Reviews of Strange and Eclectic figures!!! Peace!!!
*Killswitch
The head sculpts for Pandora, all of them, are a total dealkiller for me. They are terrible. Also, I hate to say it but more generally I don't like the female body mold Valaverse uses. It seems janky and badly proportioned compared to the best Classified and even Marvel Legends female figures.
I probably won't go for the bloody variant but I actually do like the leather jacket look as well. That face is not working for me lol!
Maybe it is better in hand🎉🎉🎉
The headsculpt is even rough in hand, I'll probably be swapping with an older one
@@beesbattlegrounds Lol!
Bobby needs more villains in this line seems like he is just stuck on variants at this point which makes collecting these figures very boring
I talked to him on a livestream and he said series 6 would be an all villains wave with some interesting weapon packs.
Rumors are that series 6 is all villains
I was kind of interested in the black version, but that head sculpt is waaaaay off.
Wish he would stop using old characters and design new ones to build up groups of characters like Gi Joe or original action force
I've had a a few Vala bits, and I just don't like them! The GITD swarm were great, but the other figs just seem off to me.
The points thing was a fun gimmick to revisit once, but I don't believe it's that good of a deal. Mostly because their shipping is too high. It should just be points + S/H or points + $14. Having said that, I absolutely hate Pandora. I hate the newest designs even more than the first. Especially that head sculpt. It's so goofy looking! Lol!
Her backstory is just so unoriginal. Its like every generic female badguy thrown into one
See this is why I had to pass lol Bobby said you couldn't ask for a "clean" one... Does anyone like this look? next to every one else on the shelf? for points for overseas is prob cheaper just to buy the figure :P
I think it depends on each individual collector, but that's how I got my Bloody Bone Collector, the guy that picked him up for me scored it but wanted the clean look so he hooked me up
@@beesbattlegrounds That was nice of him :P I emailed them I wanted a clean one hehe. But this time no dice :(
What a terrible looking face sculpt and even worse paint apps.
I think if the eyeshadow and lipstick weren't as "thick" it would be slightly better
I think it’s stupid that you can just buy the mail aways. He literally has gone back on everything he’s said about exclusives. If he would have been more forthcoming I would have never destroyed all my boxes! Talks shit about Hasbro and does the same shit!
no, thank you that's freaking bull. Crap man it's your pay points plus shipping you have to come up with something really super nice for me to ever buy anything out for his company again thumbs down forever. it should've been points plus shipping
This one hell of an ugly figure. Terrible effort from vala as expected.