Did The Mandalorian Season 3 disappoint?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- According to everybody all the time The Mandalorian Season 3 really dropped the ball in terms of quality. In this extensive and accurate recap/review we get into why that might be. Thanks for watching!
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They really pulled a “maybe the real darksaber was the friends we made along the way”
Wasn't that thing supposed to exist for hundreds of years or something? Then some guy just crushes it lol.
@@LouSassol69er dude it was the biggest eye roll for me...a piece of fucking metal with a crystal inside crushed to shit, but her fingers are just a little owee. Fuck this kids show.
I don’t understand how he destroyed the dark saber if it’s made of beskar
@@voicecrack7951 bad writing
@@LouSassol69er that’s the explanation I didn’t want! Lol
The fact that they were like oh yeah, a giant dinosaur comes by every now and then and snatches a few kids but it's cool makes me laugh my ass off every time I think about it
And they baptize their kids in a creek with a giant croc monster in it. Bo Katan must have seemed like a freaken genius to them. Helps explain why Din behaved like Mando Mr Bean for the first 2 seasons and the Armourer was so keen to hand off the leadership.
"We could just move a bit further inland, but that is not the way"
Sorry man, we didn't bring enough fuel for chasing the crocodile monster dinosaur thing
It was hilarious. That it took the bird days to even deliver the kids, and the Mandalorians gave up so easily so those kids kept suffering, made it even more so.
And then at the end Mando delivers three gigantic bird babies to the already struggling exiled. You know the Armorer was thinking "What am I supposed to do with these?" They ate them, I reckon. We never see them again.
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it’s so awesome how season 2 ended with din taking off his helmet because grogu meant so much to him that he was willing to be exiled from his cult just so grogu could see his face. season 3 ends with din asking his cult leader for permission to call his son, his son.
My wife and I were watching and we were like, "Didn't this happen already?" Weren't we all on board with that already?
Also like didn’t the other Mandalorians already basically address Grogu as his adopted son?
Foundling and apprentice are a big step away from adoption.
They went all in on telling instead of showing.
I thought he already broke the code when he willingly took off the helmet in the bill burr episode so it didn't matter if he did it again
The thing that bugged me was the fact that Gideon saw din in the map said that he will take-care of him went out side but didn’t actually do anything waited until the clones were destroyed and then came back to the command center 😂 Wtf happened there 😂😂
What bugged me more is that Grogu just... showed up to rescue him. Despite Mando having been brought in the seemingly opposite direction. Did I blink and miss something?
@@spartanB0292 Yeah man there were so many inconsistencies this season 😂🤦♀️
The whole show is horrible writing like that... :(
You see what had happened was, was once Gideon left the map room he couldn't see where the Mandolorian was...and Din when went a way he didn't expect, so he missed him and found him back in the control room. Sounds plausible right? I am just amazed they have tracking maps in Star Wars in general!
what if he was a clone and wanted all his rival clones killed? (i dont believe that btw)
Grogu really felt more like a mascot than ever. He had no stake in this plot and they never justified reuniting him with Mando.
Guarantee that was Disney interference ordering showrunners to get him back into season 3. Disney has no idea, they're slowly ruining all their franchises.
Merchandise!!! Moneeyyyy
I'd bet they tried some stuff and it didn't work. That little puppet doesn't have a lot of functionality. Half the time the actors are just throwing it across the set.
@@Szokynyovics Crazy part is that merchandise based on Star Wars from 40 years ago still sells. They don't need to bring Grogu back to keep selling merchandise; people already love that character. They could fill that slot with a new character that expands the merchandise they could sell: new Mandolarian partner, new alien foundling to fill the whole in his heart, or even new Jedi recruits that become Grogu's classmates.
If anything, this season will turn people off Grogu for being used like the Porgs in The Last Jedi. They are both creatively bankrupt and bad at marketing.
This. 100% this. He should've stayed with Luke; season 2 ended perfectly that way.
I find it hilarious that Moff Gideon saw that Mando was loose in his base, went off to presumably kill him, and then just… let him go to his clone room and kill all his clones? Like he has a tracker on Mando, he KNOWS where he is at all times, but he just lets him get to the clone room. Then when he finally gets up to Mando he starts sobbing about his “perfect clones dying before they can draw their first breaths” but surely he could’ve just stopped him much earlier.
Moff Gideon Stavro Blofeld
The cloning made me cringe so hard just thinking about what they can do with it. There's already theories everywhere saying, "Mando didn't kill the real Moff Gideon, he killed the clone," and now Moff will be around forever, because yeah I can totally see that. I could also see, "We got some blood from an old Jedi remnant, hmmm, what happens if we clon- HOLY GOD DAMN ITS YODA AND QUI-GON, THEY'RE BACK BABY
That's also makes me think that the Gideon at the facility was a clone, and that Gideon wanted all of the other clones to be destroyed, because I'm sure all of these Gideons have the ego of the original
@@SuperMegaGaelourde YOu KiLlEd My CLoNes was cringe as fuck. Also “din grogu” damn near made me shut the tv off
@@alexanderthomas6634 Then why would he not just destroy them himself? Apparently, all he needed to do was press the destroy all tanks button that didn’t require any kind of security measures.
In a sea of angry and wronged fans, Mr Sunday Movies holds the belt for most relentlessly cheerful movie review channel from people that really like movies but don’t take them too seriously. The back-and-forth and randomness never ceases to make me chuckle. Nice.
Yeah him and maso are top tier at keeping it grounded and always reminding you they're just movies/tv shows, so many other similar creators just lose their minds and its exhausting
@@R_A120 I get a lil faith back in humanity to see others who feel this way about the other rabid fandoms too. When people will say "oh I love x channel you should watch them they have the same opinion as me on this story", and then I check them out and absolutely shrivel in cringe. I used to come from that place too where the things I obsessed about were all that mattered and nothing could perfectly exist like my headcanons so everything upset me when it fell short. And then what happened? I eventually grew up. Now I enjoy what I can and let go of what I don't and realize I have no control over it but I do have control over my expectations and that I can always enjoy my own fantasies if that's what I really desire. It's like the majority of fandoms actually missed a step or several on the way to adult hood and it's frightening to think that we live and serve along side those kinds of people who can froth rage at minor fictional details.
Gideon’s plan is the most fan-film energy thing ever, in the worst possible way
“My big reveal is I’ve been working on clones, of ME, and they’re force sensitive! …somehow. And I’m wearing Mandalorian armour! … for some reason! And I want the darksabre! … for some reason… Shocking twists right?!”
@@knives1705 when I was 10, my Star Wars playground OC was a mandalorian whose armor was basically an Iron Man suit. It’s nice to know that’s the level we’re at with SW these days
It's right up there alongside J.J Abrahams and his fleet of super star destroyers with death star cannons.
I mean, dude is a complete narcissist.
@@knives1705 And when it's revealed its already been resolved so why should anyone care?
I genuinely believe that Mando was going to have a Plot this season with him questioning his helmet code, yknow the thing half the cast was talking to him about. However they had to cut it because Pedro never went on set and they didn’t write a replacement arc for him
He never went on set?
Living Waters bathing was for sure a skinny dip.
@@austin5944 yeah mostly just vo with a stunt actor in the suit
I think you're right. There's nothing wrong with having a masked character who is just voice acted, but the show needs to be written around that better than it was in S3.
It really, really felt like the Armorer was gonna sell out Bo Katan and her forces saying "they're not real Mandalorians, we've survived our own way, we don't need them knocking at our door, might as well sell them out to Gideon" which leads to Dinn being like "no they're alright actually these weird rules just divide us, that's it I'm not wearing the helmet".
This is more speculation on my part for sure, but even earlier elements could have been drawn on better than they were in my opinion, like it's weird to me that the Children of the Watch who are fundamentalists with these strict rules, don't care about the darksaber? One of them is literally a descendent of its creator, and that fact matters for one episode in a different show and never comes up again.
To me it feels like the show was building to a storyline where the Children of the Watch want to keep the darksaber for themselves, continue to hide away, venerating these old symbols of their culture, whilst Bo Katan is actively trying to reunite her people and retake the planet. That more naturally leads into Dinn needing to take a side, and then choosing hope and unity and gives the Darksaber without a fight to show that they're kinda past those rules that only hurt each other, or maybe Bo Katan though her experience as a warrior and leader out in the universe is actually able to beat Dinn in a fight for the Darksaber, whilst Paz Vizsla failed because he spent his life hiding away, showing that evolving makes you stronger.
Maybe they would have even waited the whole season before Dinn reunites with Grogu, only convincing Grogu to return by showing his face again after Dinn realises that it's more important to not let dumb rules keep you from your loved ones.
that was only is season 1 hes under the mask unless its stunts
What I love most about the Mandalorians in this season is how open they are to loopholes in their immutable rules. I feel like you could make up any old story and they'd let you be their ruler.
"He's too young to speak to take the oath. So he can't be an apprentice."
"What if his parents sign a permission slip."
"They live too far away or are dead maybe, I dunno."
"What if I adopt him?"
"Yeah, I guess that works. He's yours now. Now f- off."
Well, they are in a cult. I’d assume they are pretty gullible.
@@Don.M. Cults are generally pretty tight about their rules and don't allow for technicalities to break them.
This entire season was just a bunch of "but technically..." and "X kinda forgot about Y".
Writing is terrible, directing wasn't much better and people need to stop giving everything a Star Wars pass. It's bad, Star Wars or not. Don't settle for mediocrity.
It's wild that this season basically went "Actually Mando's restrictive oppressive cult are really cool and it's cool they let him back in."
But they are cool
Honestly remarkably chill for a space cult
Yeah I thought Mando’s arc was gonna be him realising he doesn’t need them, instead it was more a unity across different religions story which is kinda cool honestly
@@mrcritical6751 Cool as an idea but lacking in execution. Keep in mind all of this happened because Mando and Bo went to Mando world, bathed, and saw the Mythosaur. And that's when we find out... There wasn't actually anything keeping Mando from coming back. Not actually anything keeping anyone out of the club. Because you can just fly up to them, say "Yeah I took the bath," and they'll take your word for it and be like, "Oh shit you took the bath? Damn. Hardcore. And you saw a Mythosaur? Like from the myths? Damn. Legit. Respect. Anyways, have some free indestructible armor and help us fight crocogators and kiddie snatchers."
@@SuperMegaGaelourdeThey didn't take him by his word. He brought a vial of the water as proof, which the armorer confirmed was from the bath.
I love the Mando No Diving sign. Twice Bo Katan rescued him from drowning when he's doing the Mando Mr Bean thing. The Armorer should build some floaties into his armor.
The Manfloatorian
Or, use that jet pack like Bo did
One of my favourite things about this channel is that it really does just feel like two good mates having an intelligent conversation about some geeky shit. Towards the end it really broke down but in a funny and heartwarming way, just like it would in a natural conversation. Top notch stuff boys!
don’t forget about the little goblin living under the table
Totally forget the Mandalorian clan adopted those Dino birds, didn’t really go anywhere.
Maybe it’ll come up in later shows.
I think they ate them.
Dino birds were eaten at the feast when the two mando clans joined forces.
@@Jwlar nope, it was the Nevarro dragon things from S1 on the spit. Look closer
They problem is that those dino birds are too young to actually do something
My theory since end of season one has been that Mandalorian is a launching pad for Dave Filioni live action shows. It doesn't feel like there is an end objective because there isn't one. It's introductions and world building only. I think it's fun, but I also don't hold it to the same standard as Andor, which has an end objective (Rogue One).
It's the benefit and curse of a completely new character. One thing that keeps my hopes high for Andor is that we all know the ending, the writers don't have to figure that out, they just got to get Andor to Rogue One. I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to use Mando as a sort of setup show but it does kind of make it weaker. In a way he's better as a bounty hunter, where he just shows up in other shows as a guy to get you out of a bad situation.
I think that was also the success aspect of the first two seasons. We had no "galaxy-affecting" stakes. We just had a new badass bounty hunter and his kid doing missions and going on adventures in the lawless post-ROTJ outer-rim. A classic SW western story.
Filoni has done more damage to Star Wars than any Rian Johnson type creator will ever do.
Everything has to revolve his OCs to the detriment of the quality of other Star Wars content.
Mando’s intrigue and originality got cucked by becoming an introduction vehicle for Ashoka and company to the general audiences.
@Bongo Kongo
As someone not keeping up - but I did watch The Clone Wars - it does seem like Filoni might be relying a bit too much on characters popular in *other* shows.
This could create the problem of Star Wars media becoming less easy to get into, as one characters arc gets concluded or started in a whole other show.
@@bongokongo8463 What did you expect? Mando was a side character from the jump and exists to develop Grogu and help already known characters.
My favorite part was how the armorer made Mando jump through all these hoops to be accepted again, after taking off his helmet. And then the second he finishes his quest, she's like, "Bo, you don't have to wear that, it's not a big deal." I have to imagine Mando was fuming under that helmet lol. But I also assumed that that would lead to him being able to remove his helmet, but apparently not.
The ending felt kinda rushed, they probably should have done another episode after the final battley to better show how he settles down takes of his helmet etc.
I never had a problem with that. Bo is not a part of their sect. Originally, its for the sect to accept her, then once she has saved a child of theirs, and with Bo seeing the Mythosaur, the Armourer wants to unite the groups and sees a moment to do so.
There were problems, but I thought that was explained well.
If Din wants to join the other Mandalorians, they were willing to accept him too. But he doesnt want to, he wants to be a part of his sect.
@@createdforthemoment6740 …A situation which mostly exist because Pedro Pascal gets more free time off set this way.
At this point the plot device of it reads as actor cover so he can do other things.
Bo took her helmet off so she could connect with the other Mandos. Din chooses to leave it on.
Yeah, I get the in-universe reasoning. The double standard from the armorer is still pretty silly.
James manically summarizing the show made this feel like an old-school Caravan of Garbage episode, and I love if
No idea how they managed it, but it really felt like each episode was written the week before it aired
One, draft, and done we’re ready to shoot.
It really feels like they had to rewrite a lot. It feels like there is a big chunk of a storyline missing where Cara Dune and the X-wing guy team up to hunt for Moff Gideon. Then Pedro Pascal had better things to do it seems, and Grogu had to be rewritten into the storyline of course, after Kathleen Kennedy insisted he should be in the season more than originally planned.
Editor when james says “im the boss” and it cuts to Sasha Banks is a beautiful touch
Legit thanks for catching mate 🤝
If you have to ask if it fell off, chances are, it did. I remember worrying prior if it'd follow BOBF and Kenobi's style rather than S1 and S2 and somehow it was even worse.
Fun video as always! Also here's a neat bit of trivia regarding Coruscant/Imperial City. In the scripts for ANH, it was just called Imperial City. In RotJ, it was going to be called Had Abadon, and the last third of the movie would have been set there instead of Endor. But this idea ended up being scrapped as Lucas felt it would be too implausible for the characters to be right in the heart of the empire. The name Coruscant actually came from Timothy Zahn in his book Heir to the Empire, that kickstarted the EU in 1991.
I totally expected this being a Blue Harvest joke...
I love that episodes 2-5 all end with Bo Katan looking into the middle distance, contemplating wether or not she wants to lead these idiots.
Did he just say "crocodile sized dinosaur"?!?!? That shit got me!
Compliments to the editor! The Mandaloathian gag got me lol
Cheers Kolt mate!!
This season was a mess. We were spoiled with quality in the Andor show
The quality and visuals were good but I didnt like andor tbh
Was it ever on to begin with? I mean even the best stuff in this show isint as good as andor is.
Andor was just awful
I liked this more than Andor lol
Andor is the most well thought out Star Wars show right now. It's just a shame the plebs and low attention spans don't like it. It should be more popular to get it through to Disney that good writing is what Star Wars needs, not endless cameos and callbacks. Also less reliance on the volume set. Real sets need to continue.
Ben must've had a lot of fun making of all of those Portmanteaulorian graphics.
Aha this one was me but also yes!
Originally coruscant/imperial city had a different name altogether. Due to some of the colourful crops on the planets surface that were ready to be processed the first name of the city when it was founded was Blue Harvest
I love the runner of the bulky mandalorian being the avatar for the self aware side character 😂😂😂 top notch editing
😆 thanks mate!
I love when James swears. It feels like my most innocent friend saying "shit" when they drop a pot of spaghetti. I love you two, keep it up.
Also it's hilarious how mad James gets at this series. Me too man, meeeee too
In the finale where Din is working through the many guards in the blast shields room to get to the clones feels a little silly after seeing that on the other side of the clone room there's only one unguarded room between it and the hangar/canyon lol
Still annoys me that at the end of season 2 it seems like he'd learned he didn't need to wear his helmet, like by that point he'd taken it off three times, the third time for no other reason than for Grogu to be able to see his face, like how Luke had removed Vader's helmet so they could see each other. And he'd met Boba Fett and Bo Katan and neither of them wore their helmets despite being Mandalorians. Like, I don't really know what wearing a helmet represented thematically, I think that one episode in season 1 implied it was about his inability to settle down and hang up his blasters, but come on, that's basically what he did at the end of season 3 but apparently keeping the helmet on is now super important again.
I think it means they don't have to pay Pedro to be under the helmet in S3.
I think it just has a very practical reason... Pedro Pascal wasn't even on set filming the Last of Us and they just had another guy in the suit this whole season.
Completely agree, it feels like Mandos ending would be giving up his culture to support Grogu but instead he ends on a farm with his helmet on, despite the fact they spent a whole season focussing on building a completely different home on Mandalore that he doesn’t end up in
@@FreddyMacT It means 'The Last of Us' was paying him more, so he wasn't available for Mandalorian.
Thematically it signifies his loyalty to The Death Watch and The Way as he has always known that. Voluntarily taking off his helmet signifies his new loyalty to his adopted son - once to save Grogu and the other time to say goodbye. This divided loyalty and exposure to the wider Mandalorian culture character progression should have been the focus of season 3 as he has to decide between following Bo Katan to reclaim Mandalore or be redeemed and re-join The Death Watch.
Having Grogu return in season 3 and have him redeem himself within 2 episodes completely undercut that narrative. Wasted storytelling opportunity imo.
The Mandlorian suit against the wall bit made my day 😂😂
In Legends, Coruscant was renamed Imperial city.
Along with that, I’d like to mention that when the two monsters showed up, it was the same kid that they both stole, the poor child almost got eaten during his baptism, then a week later he got kidnapped by a giant bird and almost got fed to its kids
Oh yea, and then his dad died...that kid's gonna be a badass in some future show.
Mason acting like he hasn't seen it makes this so much better lmaooo
This season is a mishmash collection of side quests, tangentially related stories strung together by the thinnest plot contrivances culminating in a rushed reveal and resolution in the last 2 episodes.
Mando is a side character in his own show, everyone else lacked clear initiative or motivation, powers and abilities are inconsistent and changes based on what the story needs at that very second, for most of the season there was no tension because there was nothing at stake.
The sad thing is there's so much opportunity for great character interaction and storytelling. For example Bo Katan and The Armourer are the leaders of 2 factions that have widely different idea of what it manes to be Mandalorian, that's a gold mine of conflicting philosophy, motivation and action, and yet you can fit all their dialogue on a napkin. They just... agreed and joined forces super easy barely an inconvenience.
If you compare this season with S1E1, it's almost like a different show about a different character. If this is the vision they have for The Mandalorian going forward, I don't think I will bother continue watching.
I had fun with it despite the obvious structure and pacing issues. I do like what they did with Grogu's character despite the terrible choice of having the reunion happen in another show.
3:22 "a giant crocodile sized dinosaur" mightve actually been more interesting, and hilarious.
Ending Mando in a hut with Grogu is a weird ending considering the whole season was about finding their home, and then he sets up his home somewhere else? The final endgame for Mando feels like he would give up the mando culture to focus on Grogu but this was like half done
They've been literally put out to pasture until some other show needs them to make a cameo.
Armorer kicked him out again. The whole series is really about her trying to get the middle aged Man(do) baby to leave home.
He helped establish a home for the other Mandalorians and got Grogu made his apprentice, how was that not the goal?
@@chand911 you're talking to idiots that are looking for a bunch of reasons to shit on the series now because they're oh so disappointed with the current season. Don't waste your time
Yea this whole season was constantly setting up really interesting character/plot threads and then either completely dropped them or wrapped them up in extremely unsatisfying ways
Meta conscious Paz Vizla is fucking hysterical.
“He’s doing it! He’s realizing he’s not real!!!” 🤣🤣🤣
Not once did it cross my mind that it wasn’t Pedro in that suit
I actually really appreciate Recaps in these videos since most of the time I either haven't seen what they're talkin about or it's been a very long time! Even a short recap can help immensely.
My favorite part of the season was when mango said ‘they can fly now?’ The Bo-katan repeats ‘they can fly now!’ Bone chilling.
Mango and Grogurt
How could they mess up a show as good as the Mandalorian? Like for real I’m almost impressed.
Well when your main actor signs up for another show that’s scheduled to shoot at the same time you have to write around that
Weird and inconsistent is probably a good way to describe season 3.
Andor on the other hand was incredible. Great acting, story, locations.
Mason interrupts Mr. Sunday so hard he has a mini stroke.
"Crocodile size dinosaur". Very good.
Zooming in on The Boss when James says shes the boss is just top level editing
Thank goodness I wasn’t the only one that was like good lord how many big giant monster attacks are going to be in this season.
Is no one gonna mention when Skinny Pete became mandalorian that’s a step up from working with Jesse lol
A giant crocodile sized dinosaur
Should’ve ended the same with grogu holding the frog, then din djarin takes his helmet off, and says “quit playing with your food, son.” Signifying his fatherhood, no longer calling him kid
Man, I loved when the crocodile sized dinosaur came out the water and single handedly took out several mandos 😂
"I'm the Boss"
*Zooms in on Sasha/Mercedes*
Wait, the storm troopers have jet packs..? They fly now?!
they fly now
The thing with the mustaches is like: shouldn’t a clone have a full beard? There’s not like a robot arm in the bacta tank constantly shaving their faces or anything. Plus they would have to have their aging accelerated a lot to reach the same age as the original moff gideon. But if he wants an army of his own clones, wouldn’t he only want them to be like 20 years old so they can fight in their physical prime? Idk man 😂
It blows my mind we live in a time where a major franchise will write and film an entire season without the main actor even being there
Is the supercut of Carl Weathers saying "Mando" a bunch of times the "Rodney!" of a galaxy far, far away?
I was really hoping this would make the channel, great review
It was very weird for them to tease the mythosaur, then have bo katan not want to mention it at all and then they went nowhere with it
Future plot thread, let sleepy dinosaur sleep
The Mandalorians didn't have enough jetpack fuel to chase a Pterodactyl back to its nest, but that Axl Wose guy can fly all the fucking way to space????
The writing and story were beyond stupid basically making first two seasons irrelevant. Just to try and sell baby Yoda dolls because they are the only star wars toys that sell anymore.
someone on tumblr said "the show the mandalorian does not have object permanence" and wow thats so true, a very fun show but wish it was more consistent and had a clear direction
Right? Like where did the beskar spear go? Why does Mando not have his jet pack half the time???
I think the thing that describes this season the best was the random dinosaur that appeared on Mandalore and destroyed their land boat and was then never seen again. Everything in this season seemed to have no real story-driven reason behind it and was just an excuse to do something the writers wanted to do but didn't know how to include it properly.
@@lipartistyou don’t understand storytelling. The fact you’re defending
‘And the a giant monster appeared out of nowhere’ is embarrassing enough.
Just look up Parker and stone discuss story telling. Therefore vs and then.
@@Burner-xc2wq I'd guess though that the random item they wanted to include was the land boat more than the dinosaur. It would make a great lego set with lots of little action figures etc. But it's pretty common for some random event to be used to mess up the protagonists plans. Yes it's a plot device but it even happens in real life. Enormous deadly snake decided to sleep between me and my shower once and plans had to change.
@@lipartist they were literally going there anyway, and it would’ve been fine had they needed to use the land boat in the next e episode to escape but couldn’t because it was destroyed but that didn’t happen
Now I want Leia to get a double bladed lightsaber lol
I actually enjoyed this season a lot. The overall goal of retaking Mandalor and uniting the different tribes was very cool. Bo Katan learns how to become a leader and becomes worthy of ruling Mandalor and the other Mandalorians. She definetly steals the show because of that. Grogu is growing up and becomes a lot more useful as a part of the show, which is very welcome. Also the scene at the end where Din Jarren adopts Grogu made me cry. Also the subplot of former empirials infiltrating the new republik was very cool.
Overall I really enjoyed this season.
On paper, it had a lot going for it. Unfortunately I’m execution they messed up basically every aspect
It is not only another monster attacks another kid on the same beach, it is the same kid!
I like how they hit the reset button at the end. Back to bringing guys in warm or bringing them in cold.
“Crocodile sized dinosaur” 😂
I loved this season, from seeing how the mandalorian tribes work to what the new republic is actually like, i get it was abit boring in parts but if you want a bigger story you have to fill out some of the world first
Watched an episode or maybe two and was just like 'ehh.. After Andor I just don't care about any of this.'
Problem with the Jack Black episode is it was episode 6 out of 8 and the plot had basically not even started by that point. People probably would have been a lot warmer to it had it been like episode 2 or 3 but when you're 3/4ths of the way through the season and you're still waiting for the plot to start its really not a great time to take a detour to wacky Jack Black planet and chase around battle droids. The season as a whole was a total mess and its pretty clear they didn't have a story to fill an entire season.
I didn't like the episode, but I liked Din and Bo: Space Detectives as an idea. I would have been behind a season of that more than taking back Mandalore because I really didn't care about Mandalore, and the Mandalorians as a tribe and to a person (other than the Armorer) kind of suck.
My issue was Jack and Lizzo aren’t good actors and felt like they were reading dialogue from a video game quest
Dude Blade Runner: The Star Was Cut was my favorite episode. Say what you want about Dan Harmon but his ability to write an engaging story that’s self aware that it’s in another genre is a mark of good writing and I’m seeing shades of that here.
Eh, episode 6 in Season 1 was just "Din joins a group of outlaws on a self-contained adventure then kills them all when they double-cross him." This season was honestly more plot-focused and less reliant on cameos than the first two seasons-- literally every episode added to the story and character development in some capacity-- but the novelty's gone and Andor was so good we've forgotten what an episode of The Mandalorian actually feels like. We're seeing the cycle of "people forget the sorts of stuff that was in the old Star Wars and complain about the same stuff in the new Star Wars," only now it took just two years to get to that point.
My biggest problem wasn’t with Lizzo or Jack Black, it was that the society they visited was, like, SUPER fucked up and they didn’t address that at all
The Strategy:
Make a really good first impression, then gradually make mediocre seasons as they’re be viewers regardless bc die hard fans of the particular series via franchise
Then when the views miraculously dip down, then they might go back to making not mediocre seasons; maybe
The problem is that Mandalorian season 1 was made up of a focused team of 2 creatives, Filoni and Favreau. Then they had a team of directors, say 4 or 5. But now they've kind of all split off due to the Disney mandate to bring as many shows and movies to Disney+. The talent is now spread so thin that the quality is declining. We see it with Marvel and will see it continue with star wars now.
So in a way, you’re saying we’ve been DENNIS systemed? Actually makes a lot of sense.
The Moff Gideon not having a mustache thing reminds me of a Futurama episode when Bender has a cousin named Flexo and he looks exactly like him the only difference is he has a soul patch. Lol
Some mandalorian: "Ah we never catch the monster, we don't have enough fuel"
*A few episodes later*
Another mandalorian: "Hey let me contact our people in orbit for help!"
*Proceeds to use jetpack to fly from beneath the ground into orbit.*
*half an episode of aerial jetpack battle ensues*
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...
*City with droid problems has a whole army of mandalorians on planet*
*Army is not allowed in the city*
*Can't tell army people to temporarily discharge a few people to be deputized*
*Nicely kidnaps two mandalorians to force them to help*
*The two mandalorians ACTUALLY help*
*No one ever asked why there were two mandalorians running around in the city, even though the mando army isn't allowed in*
*So could have just used two rando mandos*
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*Evil pirates threaten to attack random (not so random) city on outer rim planet*
*Planet asks republic to help*
*Republic guy can't help FLIES to Coruscant*
*pirates not attacking yet*
*Republic doesn't want to help, guy FLIES BACK to outer rim, to super SECRET mando hideout ...because droid*
*pirates not attacking yet*
*Mandos agree to help, fly to outer rim planet*
*pirates finally attack*
*Mandos kill pirates, like duh*
*Number of citizens actually living in the city: about 10*
I'm down for more rambling recaps from James who kinda remembers what happens to Mason who doesn't really care that much but they're both really excited.
That used to be how Caravan of Garbage was done.
Jesus I know Mr. Sunday has had some unconventional takes over the years but holy god I don’t know how anyone could think the Lizzo episode was any good, let alone the best in the season.
His dad would know everything about Moff Gideon. Since he is the god damn CEO of disney!
Also can't believe editors missed the chance to edit in Krang in place of Grogu Robot 🤣
I love the world building in this season and the rebuilding of Mandalorian culture. This was the season where I actually felt left out because I didn't know the history of so many characters and after episode 3, I decided to go and binge the Clone Wars series. I'm very excited to see what comes next!!!
W. I keep telling people if they watch a few clone war/rebels episodes they'll have a better look at the season.
@7ydy that's exactly why I dove into it. For sure it's hard to navigate through 7 season of clone wars, but seasons 5,6&7 are great for the background of what's happening now in Mandalorian. I'm also very excited for Ahsoka now too
I don’t know why I find that line from Mason so funny: 8:55
I want to live in a world where we can be honest about star wars being mid and also not bully the cast…
Finally a review where everything you were confused about or talked about I was also questioning.
I agree with James and Maso, I also liked it.
James and Maso are never wrong about anything, especially about the Mandalorian.
Someone needs to animate that bit about the suit just being propped up with a stick
After four decades as a Star Wars fan Andor is my only hope. There's just too many other excellent options today for me to put any energy in the cynical corporate schlock Disney keeps putting out lately.
i salute you for staying faithful to hold out any hope for what’s become of this property. i gave up after last jedi and now just enjoy listening to people critique the mess they’ve made out of something that held so much potential and magic for so many people.
Disney makes me sick how they had the resources to do this right and they still f’d it up (Along with the MCU after endgame). Imagine having the keys to create new star wars adventures and this is what you release.
@@rolloutthebarrel stopped at 8. Skipped all the cash grab spinoffs too. Saw part of mando season 1. Bleh
@@Mike-qz4by I did try Mando season one, too. definitely bleh
"Smithers, I'm starting to think Jon Favreau is NOT the brilliant storyteller I thought he was."
Jack Black and Lizzo were great! The whole, “By the way… technically it iiiis actually her Darksaber.” was the lame part of that episode.
4th wall-breaking Vizla is my favorite
I really enjoyed it. Seeing Din follow his dreams and be himself from the perspective of Bo Katan was very interesting as we often take a back seat to view and people watch others all the time. That’s how it felt. My favorite episode was the one with lizzo because it’s a detective crime solving episode which was dope
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way
What are din’s dreams?
The guy doesn’t want anything, he’s got everything
Why are we watching a show about a guy whose character arc is over?
@@neotralize9110 to walk the way of mandalor and restore his home world.
@@arclite95 He only wanted to go to Mandalore to renew his vow not to restore his homeland.
@@nyikomaswanganyi5983 mandalore shmandalore
“He goes in, na I don’t like this” is a best summary of that scene
The Mandalorian is the king of shows for wasting your time. With only 8 episodes some only being 30 minutes you'd think the plot would be concise and focused. But they had so many filler episodes meandering around. The quality has noticeably dropped as far as writing goes and even the volume sets are looking a bit off to me. It's looking cheaper than before.
I think even though it had 2 years it was limited by other shows also using the volume, kenobi and BoBF. You’d think that time would’ve been used for a tighter script but it’s pretty clear some changes happened with the script, like Mando in BoBF and ep3 being more like the leftovers of rangers of the new republic
I’d argue that all shows and media in general… is designed to waste your time..
@@chrissadler6459 there's a distinction between viewing entertainment as a waste of time and entertainment deliberately wasting your time through means of filler and slow progression.
Seems to me that all the SW shows are like that. They could be condensed into 3 episodes a season if they had any sense of pacing. At that point, they could just be one feature film a year instead of 6 minutes of shows and 24 minutes of credits for 8-10 episodes.
@@null6634 the writing talent just isn't there. The writers don't know how to hold substance over a seasons worth of content. The talent is spread too thin across the barage of new shows and movies they plan to create for Marvel and Star wars. It's all quantity over quality for Disney these days.
Loved the Dave Filoni cameo in the bar - great hat
I know it seems weird, but a hangup for me was how no one seemed to sweat at all during this season. Bo Katan is doing crazy stunts, running and sprinting all over the place, fighting - but every time she takes her helmet off her wig is perfectly in place. Does helmet hair not exist in this universe?
Also, when that one kid was captured by the Monster of the Week and then coughed back up into the nest - I'm sorry, but this kid should have been dunked in a gallon full of KY Jelly and then plopped into the nest. How was he perfectly dry?
I really got the sense that the majority of this series was filmed in a studio with a bunch of P.A.s holding fans and towels at the ready, lest a drop of sweat fall down Katee Sackhoff's forehead.
Moff Gideon's Mandalorian outfit looks like Mauls death watch armour he had for his grunts when he had the dark saber.
Yes, I said to myself after season 2 “alright that’s it, the end, I’m good with that, they’ll only try to milk the shit out of it now’ and here they are, milking the shit out of it.
Still prefer this milk than the alternative reality TV and police procedurals.
@@jaxr2958 Not sure how the alternative is reality TV or Police procedurals when you can just watch pretty much anything you want when you want these days. It’s not like you’re changing the channel anymore man, Disney+ has a good variety and you’re already there paying for it, you can just pick something else to watch on it.
@@badassdanthepowerman6438 There's not that much new programming. Maybe average half an hour actual new content a week in this genre. My point is just that if you compare to the rest of TV content it's still gonna be top 1% of what you want to watch.
It’s a franchise from the US, ofc they’re gonna milk it.
Name a US tv show that ended when it should.. you can’t. They just pump it out until it stops making money. Every US show has a series the fans pretend doesn’t exist
Community
Rick and morty
Modern family
Simpsons
Scrubs
Friends
B99
Mando
Always sunny
South Park
Family guy
The US office
Etc etc all the same
3:19 that is most certainly NOT a "crocodile sized dinosaur"
I actually really liked the helmet not being removed. I get why they did it, but I was kind of disappointed when they did the face reveal initially. Wanted them to lean into the whole strong, stoic and mysterious character feel.
but he isn't a stoic mysterious character everyone basically knows his entire life at this point
Yeah I much prefer he keeps the helmet on.
After watching this, I'm probably not going to finish the show I forgot I didn't finish
Thought it was more just weird than mid/bad, but do hope they figure out what they're doing with star wars say some point, cause it seems like they're just flailing at this point.
“Fencealorian” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I knew the season was doomed the moment andor ended it's crazy
It's weird. Andor looks so high quality but Mandalorian is looking cheaper than ever. Can't beat real sets. Andor does highlight what good writing can do for a show though.