HOW MUCH PRINTING IS OK? Pocket Pistol Concealment
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- How well your EDC needs to be concealed is a matter of context.
Not just where you are or who is around you, but it can also vary based on the carry method.
There are certain ways we carry pistols that demand a higher degree of concealment than others.
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Fully agree on printing being less issue with pocket carry, and also not lying about medical devices.
Being a big guy pocket carry is really the only option I have, for comfort and concealment. I used to carry 2 extra magazines in a double magazine pouch. You could tell a mile away what they were, so I chose to give up the extra magazine for a single, flap over magazine pouch. Even on close inspection it looks like just another folding knife pouch, which men have been carrying for decades.
Something relatively firm but flexible stuck between the weapon and outside of the pocket will fix pocket printing. A folded up brochure or bit of plastic sheet works well.
The RCS Pocket Shield was designed specifically to do just that!
@@TheSuitedShootist Interesting. I had not heard of that. I always just shoved a folded up road map (remember those? Dating myself) or something like that.
I’ve pocket carried either a J Frame or LCP since my ‘97 retirement and no one has ever asked me about what it was. I assume (yeah, I know) nobody has noticed it. Pocket carry works w/a J Frame in jeans but not so much in dress slacks. I’m limited to the LCP in dress slacks.
Ah, therein lies the rub.
- Just because someone notices doesn't mean they'll say anything
- Just because someone doesn't say anything to you doesn't mean they're not saying anything at all
- Just because someone notices doesn't mean they care.
But the only thing we can control is how much visual information they have access to.
Agree with the message here. And front pocket carry is so useful in certain situations.
Weird pocket carry cheat code for NPE: Vertx Jeans in the darker colors fit well and look fairly professional, but the “magazine pouch” secret pocket fits a P-32 in a pocket holster perfectly.
The tactical advantage of pocket carry (hand in pocket) is basically gone at that point, but it’s a true zero printing way to pocket carry.
I rotate between carrying my 442-1 and my 432UC in a Safariland Model 25 pocket holster. Very inconspicuous in my usual pants choice of dark, straight fit jeans.
I carry my glock 42 and 43x in pants pocket. It prints a little but i wear loose button down shirts untuckec. Covers it quite well.
If I'm in a situation that's casual enough for me to get away with my shirt untucked, I'm generally able to accommodate my 365X on the Enigma.
For me, pocket carry is when I'm in a situation that demands I carry the smallest gun possible.
I pocket carry my S&W Bodyguard and 2 extra mags in Ammo Armor sleeves in off hand pocket.
I wear Duluth Trading stretch carpenter jeans that have extra large front pockets, plus numerous pockets on the side of both legs. I carry my Ruger Max 9 in the right front pocket along with an extra magazine in the level pocket on the right leg. Both items being in close proximity break up the outline. If I think I might be under scrutiny, I pocket carry a Kel-Tec P 32 and two extra mags loaded with alternating Fiocci 73 grain and Underwood Extreme Defender, both of which have good penetration and alternating negates chance of rim lock. Wearing darker and looser clothes helps with printing. The reality is that everybody but police is oblivious most of the time.
People that carry guns notice other people that carry guns.
The oblivious ones aren't why we carry.
I dual front pocket carry in a non permissive work environment and have for many years. I use wallet style pocket holsters which have a flap that makes the gun print like a wallet or phone etc.
Your pocket gun does print like a gun and would not be acceptable in my environment.
I have found that revolvers sometimes print less in a pocket due to their curved shape, but, their larger size compared to a LCP or similar means they can peek out of the pocket opening on some pants. This is an issue if you tuck your shirt.
Good video. Happy Independence Day!
Everyone's threshold is different.
Based on my past experience, I wouldn't opt for pocket carry on the office, depending on the nature of my employment agreement.
Nice video. Alabama holster has the best pocket carry holster. Recommend Sig Sauer P238 or Ruger LCP 380. Wear loose fitting shirts, shorts, or pants. Recommend wearing a necklace or chain. People will focus on your neckline and not your pockets. Pro tip: Put your cell phone in front in of pocket gun. The cell phone will PRINT and conceal the weapon. Works well with tight fitting pants.
I prefer to keep the pocket clear of anything other than the holstered pistol for access & safety purposes
My problem is that I’ve always wanted to carry AND not print at all. I’m a bit paranoid about being called out. Seems that every method out there can mask a firearm but very few actually make it disappear. Same goes specifically for pocket carry. I don’t wish to look like I’m carrying a fat wallet in my pocket. I want to look like I don’t have ANYTHING in my pocket. Sadly, I’ll keep working on it.
Being slim, anything thicker than a phone or key fob in my front pockets is too thick. I've tried pocket holsters for my P365 and my 642 and it looks like I have a brick on my thigh as well as the butt of the gun being visible in the pocket opening. Maybe a P32 might work but belt carry works fine for me.
I have a hard time making a j-frame work on trousers, even with the Mika holster.
365 is just too blocky for a pocket (imo), and I really prefer DA triggers on pocket guns for a wider margin of error
I use a kahr P380 in a Mika pocket holster. It’s slim enough to pass as a folding phone.
First like, Happy Independence Day! :)
Freedom!
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What model gun and leather holster are you carrying?
That's a KelTec P32 in a Mika pocket holster
In past history, there have been small guns made to look like something else--cane handle, lighter, whatever. Concealment via mimicry. It may sound gimmicky, but I'd love a gun that looks just like my Lufkin 25' tape measure I clip to my belt. That would be concealment via throwing off viewers from its true identity. I suppose that becomes open carry, however.
I believe those fall under AOWs these days
I find myself pocket carrying more often these days for comfort and ease, although I am concerned that my draw from pocket is notably slower than appendix IWB (at least for me). For now, I pocket carry in what I consider to be low threat zones, but will use AIWB with a larger pistol when venturing into the city.
2 considerations:
Sooner can beat faster.
Also, it's a lot more socially acceptable to have you hand (on your gun) in your pocket than it is in AIWB.
Also check out some of the recent content Craig Douglas has been putting out on Shivworks social media about patterning.
How can people withstand stuff in the front pockets like this? Anything larger than a credit card in my front pockets is mind numbingly uncomfortable. I sometimes have to place my phone in my front pocket for safe keeping for just a second and I can’t stand it. It’s a rush to remove it asap!!!
“Socially acceptable?!?!” As long as it complies with the jurisdiction’s statutes - and, I’d agree, no one wants the hassle of proving to law enforcement that in fact he is lawfully concealing a firearm - the busybody who asks, in the supermarket aisle, “what’s that on your abdomen?” should be told - uncivilly - to mind his own business.
Ah yes, good solid de-escalation strategy there. 🤔
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