“Sounds Like He Doesn’t Want To Be Found” | Jay Slater Latest With Peter Bleksley And Alex Phillips
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- The mysterious vanishing of teenager Jay Slater has now been linked to speculations involving a stolen Rolex watch.
Jay, a 19-year-old trainee bricklayer, disappeared on 17 June while on a trip to Tenerife for a three-day music festival with friends. After leaving his mates in the early hours of Monday to head to a secluded Airbnb with other revellers, he embarked on a perilous 11-hour walk back to his lodgings in the island's south.
The Civil Guard officially halted their search on Sunday after an extensive near two-week effort. Despite this, Jay's parents, Debbie and Warren, his brother Zak, and a circle of close family and friends are determined to continue their quest to locate the young man.
Alex Phillips speaks with former Met police detective Peter Bleksley about the latest surrounding the case.
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I would not give any of these Gofund me anything I don't trust any of them.
It's sad, but you're right.
Wouldn't give a penny to the Gofund me page, somebody somewhere not telling the truth. The family not covering themselves in glory by flying out and paying for family members of others already over there. Then's there's the missing rolex. Gofund reached £50,000.What are they doing with the money? As commentators have stated, theirs more to this than meets the eye!
And what if he is just lost?? And you are wrong an because you feel its not right means your are right an ontop off that push you're opinion onto others when he could just be lost shame on you and lets hope you or your close one are never in a similar situation
@@AyouaregreatR-qo9hq No she isn't right, sorry. I have a very, very sick relative with a page there - to raise a lowish sum of money.
@@user-pl4bm9tl7sI can see both sides of this argument.
And as a mother of 4 boys myself I can imagine what the family are going through.
With that in mind I made the decision to contribute.
And I did so seeing the other side of the argument and agreeing that it does look like the money may be being misused?
And this is the reason why I still choose to contribute.
I weighed up the facts that we have been presented as true and factual against what I know to be true and factual.
And the only thing I actually know as a fact is that there is a boy missing.
Now the reasons and circumstances of him being missing are endless.
And if a proper search is to be done?
Then £50,000 is a piss in the ocean against what is actually needed.
Launching a helicopter for an afternoon would deplete that and probably a lot more besides?
Now people are funny creatures (and I know because I am one🥴)
We seem to take great exception to be treated like fools.
I know I definitely do!!!
And because of the lifestyle the boy chooses to live and the people he chooses to associate with are risky at best.
I can see why this would be significant in influencing people's decisions on whether they give or not.
It's like adding insult to injury as well as making fools of us IF there really is more to this story than meets the eye??
However I still only know factually that there is a boy missing.
And the circumstances are undetermined.
And as much as I don't want to be made a fool of.
On this occasion, actually it's preferable.
Because for me not to be made a fool of, would mean that the whole thing has ultimately had the worst possible outcome.
And from one mother to another I sincerely want him found safe.
The elephant in the room is why would he travel with two males to an air bnb just to spend an hour there when he had accommodation to go back to - clearly it was for some 'business'. In which case yes it should be a criminal investigation into all involved, including Lucy, including the bnb guys, and even the parents.
People go back to people's places all the time, you're not very worldly.
@@lizb4156strangers places, for no apparent reason?
He's right @@lizb4156. People do hang out with each other after parties. But these were all 3 criminals or wannabe criminals. He went with them for business.
He wanted to feel like a maxibon Ice cream getting pounded after an 8ball of sniff in between to refugees possibly ridden with aids looking like a pig on a fresh sqewer
Yes sure, to famous drug dealers, in the middle of the night, for one hr... bless them, I hope he is fine.
Meanwhile..............another 600 fighting age males have landed on the beach!
Obsession!
They are an army waiting for there orders
@@tanyaandelvis2698obsession lol you mug
@@tanyaandelvis2698
@@tanyaandelvis2698why don't people like you go live in in a 3rd world country you love em so much. Get ya traitor
A criminal hanging out with other criminals in a foreign country, what could possibly go wrong?🙄
Not a lot unless you’re a scumbag
They attacked that dude for messing with one of there nans the victim of the attacked was a convicted burglar and car thief. Mess with my nans I don’t mind being a criminal for what I do next.
@@josephh4999I've heard 10 different excuses about why they attacked him. None of them put forward in their defense in court
@@rubycat1170 court isn’t about oh he mugged off my nan mate. Tom Hilton have you googled him google Tom Hilton Lancashire court they didn’t need to put forward things like that in court it makes it worse and they received a community order for apparently nearly killing somebody that says it all if I done that tomorrow id be in jail
@@josephh4999 that doesn't make him a good guy, just a thug and as bad as the guy he hurt. We have a police force and criminal justice system to sort out crime. We don't need vigilantes. However, how do you justify him being a thief by his own admission ? By the way , its their nans not there nans.
What about a go fund me for the victim of jay and his 7 other mates which attacked a boy on his own with weapons such as as a machete?
@@DWG8 YES!!!! Karma is a b* tch
Details please…
Really sounded like "a 19yr old who's a prick" lol
I thought that too 🙈
Karma
🤜🏽🤛🏽
Isn't he related to that moron Mathews who kidnapped her own daughter?
Snap 😂
What amazes me is how quick people are to give their money to these funds when they know nothing about the person.
Its Labour and Lib dem voters that's who 🤣🤣
@@markennyee It makes them feel good about themselves - it's not about generosity or feeling sorry for someone, it's about them, their ego, that's why they don't do any research in to the background or details, they don't care, it's the giving that's the important thing to them, not where it goes, it makes them feel virtuous.
Hmm... Sensible cooment, says no one🙄@@markennyee
It’s annoying me to where this money has went?? That should be looked into also as something isn’t adding up er….?
@@-Marshajohnston99 that go fund me money has long gone
Ask lucy she holds the key to it
Can you prove your theory?
If was aliens that did it my dear
It's not the Spanish police's fault the lad was reckless about his personal safety - to claim they were on the take without evidence is unprofessional - no wonder they don't want UK police involved
Can you imagine if a Spanish ex-policeman accused the British police of being incapable or on the take. Would really improve relations!
It's easier to blame the Spanish police...than the person, but I don't like the insinuation Spanish police are corrupted... he should be careful with his comments
Blexsley should concentrate more on the corruption in our own police force. Ask him how many missing people in Britain that our police haven't found. No wonder the Spanish police don't want interference from the likes of him.
@@GuindiPGI It sounds like the lad was a bit of a hustler and may have upset the cartel
@@trevortrevortsr2Agree with you, he’s in way over his head and is either in hiding or the obvious alternative. Get on the wrong side of these people and they’ll make an example of you to prevent others doing the same.
Here we go again, criticising the Spanish Police. And I'll inform you all again 170,000 people go missing in the UK every year. Majority aren't found. In Spain 20,000 go missing with all but about 10% unsolved. And these two on this program have the nerve to criticise the Spanish Police.. Absolutely unbelievable!
Very good point … the question stands on who’s making these people disappear and never be found again ? Deffo something going on as you can’t usually evaporate into thin air at the drop of a hat 👒
Jebus, thats another undocumented 1.7 million undocumented wandering about between each census...
At this rate everyone here will have gone missing, never to be seen again... 😂
Did you look into how the police handled this case? They literally let these 2 drugs criminals go who were last with him until he disappeared. You call that good policing?
yes because corruption in spanish speaking countries is so unheard of !
@@jelle5859 they don't know the details they are just blindly defending the police, typical bootlickers
Another British lad went missing around the same time. There was hardly a mention of him. Why was he ignored in those early days and so much attention given to Jay? I'm not saying there is no need for a deal of attention, just wonder why, when the other one was missing for days, the media ignored it? His parents must have gone through he'll for those days too. Jay was massive news from day one, another kid was not given any attention. It reminds of the McCann case, other little kids have gone missing over the years, but soon forgotten whereas Maddie is still big news after a decade. How does the media choose one missing person over another?
Better story.
Money!
Well said
Fake stories to divert people from bigger news going on in the background.
I believe that the hidden hand that runs this fallen world, sometimes use these stories in their mainstream media to distract the people from other things going on in the world, or to convey a secret message to others in their circles in the know, through codes only they know, using; names, dates & places' in the news story.
I'm not saying this is the case with this Jay Slater story, but it could be ?
This guy has changed his tune. He was the one playing down any speculation of wrong doing and telling people to stop getting carried away with corruption and drug related theories. What a clown.
He sounds like he should be reading out bed time horror stories on radio four.
I remember at the start he was quite aggressively criticising people for speculating on what may have happened to him.
Plus, he categorically said, the message to the mother about Jay owing money was sent by some idiot who’d found her telephone number online. Well, he didn’t shut down the presenter just then when she was talking about the message, he just let her waffle on as if he agreed it could have been a real one. Basically, he just seems to be milking the whole situation by appearing as an “expert”, whilst regurgitating what has already been said, about 2 days after everybody else has said it!🤔😬😂🤷♂️
Yes this old ex PC plod is a weather vein.
blah blah blah 😴😴😴
With Friends like this who needs enemies.
So called mates more like.
Something very suspect going on:
Don't want to be found/afraid/held/joke backfired/other.....
Family? Begin from there, something on toward - sorry but it has to be said. Using heavy duty equipment as with cadaver dogs, unlimited investigation (were 'phones checked)? Unusual case, only Jay knows 🙏🙏
@@angelabrewer8363 Him and his family will have to pay if it comes to light that it was a hoax.
Surely these two Somalian guys who booked an air bnb place in the middle of nowhere (under a false name) for just 3 days... Should be questioned.. If one was a serious convicted drug dealer, I don't think the other one was a trainee landscape gardener..Also.. Who is paying into this go fund me.. Are they daft????
Probably just a surgeon and an engineer enjoying some much deserved time off...
So a Somali with a 9 year drug sentence still living happily in the UK decides to off a Brit lowlife on his hollie's, and somehow it's the "corrupt" Spanish police's fault? No Peter, do stay in the UK, you won't be missed.
Police more than likely know what they probably did to the young chap
But are afraid to question them as they are hardened underworld criminals
How come this is not a murder investigation
It has all the leads for one
@@joelhall5124 Someone stole that bloke's {The 'Engineer's ' bottom lip! -he's a strange looking person, like a malign teddy bear.
So you think two Somalian drug lords killed him and hen returned to the UK?
Hahahahahahahahahaha
The man who mocked all the armchair detectives... From day 1 we all knew it was linked to drugs and gangs...
Get the parents to do an appeal in front of the Press - isnt that what usually happens?
Yes. I think that is a brilliant idea.
Yes , you would of thought a press release would of been done by now 🤔
@@lynseyblackburn9658Would have not would of 🙄
@@Thejamaicanmarkhanley my bad 😣
or give out reward for info which they are refusing
Need to move on from this time wasting con
Then stop watching the videos and move on then
@@franky-bx8tno all of us need to move on ! Stop wasting your time ! Fool
@@franky-bx8t a relative no doubt
This is like watching grown adults spread rumours in a school playground.
😂😂😂😂
Exactly
The only baffling part of this saga is: why do Talk TV & GBNews presenters seem to shout? I always have to turn the volume down, when GBN or Talk are reporting!
And they are so strident ….they never just relay the facts …but appear to have all the answers…then in time they don’t….
Yes I agree and especially the women who shout and screech, they seem incapable of speaking normally & especially when it's a sensitive subject they should be quieter not louder!
Yes, the biggest mystery, just beating the Daily Mail’s obsession with the fact that the bnb cost £40 per night 😂😂😂
@@lizmacrae4970 There's an abundant lack of any journalism gone on with this story. They might as well be plucking random conspiracy theories off social media themselves.
Reporting 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This could have been framed for gofund me money.
The parents should be investigated. They now raised £40,000 not my money
In excess of 50k as we speak.
None of this case makes any sense what so ever. I've been a police officer for 21 years. I'm a DS in MCU, which for those don't know, it's a branch off of CID, otherwise known as the Major Crime Unit. I've dealt with many MISPERS, some are known to us and are regularly reported missing and we invariably locate them pretty quickly. Others are high risk MISPERS, usually because of mental health needs, medical needs, they may have absconded from hospital, a psyche ward, have suicidal ideations, are minors whom always take priority, or there is the potential for third party involvement. When a person is reported as a MISPER, call handlers in ACR/FCR will seek to establish a timeline, questions will be asked such as, what was said person wearing, how was their behaviour prior to going missing, do they have any medical requirements or conditions that could be viewed as important, could they have gone to a friend or relatives house, is there any reason why they may have wondered off. It'll then be categorised as a priority job and passed to district officers whom will being searching for said person. NPAS, Drone officers, dog handlers, will seek to search local areas, woodland, main arterial routes in and out of where they were last seen. If an address is highlighted or person of interest, an SIO will be briefed and said person's loved one's will be allocated a FLO. The last person to see and or speak with that person will be spoken to and a first account taken. This information will then be reviewed and scrutinised. If said person isn't located within 24 hours, that's when we'll start worrying and stepping up a gear. Social media appeals, local media appeals, signs of life checks will be made, ie bank account checks to ascertain whether or not their debit card has been used, cell site data, and something we call a Shpock, which is never undertaken lightly but it allows us to locate a mobile telephone very quickly, amongst a whole host of other intelligence. Any addresses potentially linked will immediately be isolated a scene put in place, same goes for vehicles that may come to our attention.
When a person goes missing and third party involvement is present, it's rarely a stranger, and is invariably always linked to a person known to our MISPER, loved one, former partner, current partner, friend or associate. These people will always find themselves being spoken to at length, with any details, information provided, cross referenced and checked. We have a saying in the job, ABC of policing, ACCEPT NOTHING, BELIEVE NOBODY, CHALLENGE EVERYTHING.
As a Dad and a human being, I find this case very troubling and heartbreaking. As a DS, I am not buying any of the details or first account information, that was provided by Lucy Mae, nor Brad. As for the two males whom were occupying said Airbnb, from day one I've suspected they're linked, with Lucy being complicit in such way or another.
All of them need to be interviewed under caution by Lancashire Police, their devices seized, ECU investigating their banking transactions, source of funds and a few other things that if I was SIO, I would be requesting my team to obtain as soon as possible.
As it stands, I don't personally think Jay is alive, I think something sinister has happened to him, and my first thoughts are Lucy, Brad and the two Asian chaps.
I think it could be something to do with Audemars Piguet watch that Jay claimed to have stole.. perhaps he went to that accommodation so far away with the two men to get away from the scene where he had just committed a robbery? Perhaps the two men were going to buy it off him? Or they stole the watch off Jay? Or the other way around- maybe Jay waited for the two guys to fall asleep then Jay's left in a hurry with the watch and the money. Hence why he was deliberately going "off road" walking fast in the wrong direction, away from where there was busses, people and off the main road incase they went looking and found him? Perhaps the two guys did find him and killed him? I think Brad and Lucy aren't being 100% honest about anything as they're afraid to implicate themselves into their own criminal activities I.e.) purchasing drugs abroad for their own use on holiday or the fact they all went to tenerife to take drugs, hang around with a bunch of criminals etc.
I just can't believe a 19 year old lad goes abroad for the first time as an adult Goes around robbing people, hanging around with drug dealers and was clearly up to no good! What a stupid lad! He seemed to think he was invisible to the law or other criminals (in my opinion)
@@Maria19107 I am not buying the whole story surrounding a stolen watch Maria. No valuable or tangible evidence has been presented in regards to this alleged theft. The only people whom have made this claim, are Lucy and Brad, citing Jay sent them a Snapchat message indicating he was fearful and felt unsafe. No screenshot or evidence of this supposed message has been presented, thus I would take it with a pinch of salt, and go with the assumption that until proven otherwise, this is unlikely to be true. I personally feel that Lucy and Brad, are essentially trying to build a story around something sinister, paving the way for local police in Spain, to have a possible motive for how and why Jay has possibly met a gruesome end. I personally think Lucy and Brad are complicit, and have concocted a false narrative as a means to remove or displace suspicion from themselves.
@ste9071 that's a good theory actually that Brad × Lucy are trying to spin a false narrative...
The only reason I believe there is any credibility in the watch theory is I found the snapchat online (obviously it could be potentially edited/fake) but it looks legit to me.. the only thing that I don't understand is IF and why the person who has had it stolen hasn't come forward- unless the person who was in possession of the watch didn't get hold of it legally either.
Something is wrong here as to why Jay would travel so far with two men he doesn't really know. By the time he arrived there, jay was only at the accommodation for 90 minutes before he left.. he quite clearly didn't go there to sleep or nap like the Qassim has stated. It's honestly like absolutely nobody involved in this case is being 100% honest. Brad and Lucy are hiding something but I'm unsure of what.
I don’t feel Jay was ever in the area his phone last pinged ! 1. They used sniffer dogs if he had been there they would have picked up his scent but they didn’t…2. The picture on steps of Airbnb you can’t see his face so it could have been anyone and it looks like there are 3 feet in the picture whom does the other foot belong to…3. The last person to see him was the landlady why didn’t he ask her to get him a taxi ? Why didn’t she offer him water as you can see in the videos at the festival he was off his face so I’m sure he wasn’t a picture of health next morning…4… The guy that booked the Airbnb said he knew Jay he was helping him out as he had no where to go? He had an apartment not far from the festival! The guy then said he didn’t know him well only through friends and that Jay was alive when he arrived at the Airbnb and alive when he left !!! Strange thing to say !!! Lucy, Brad, the guys from Airbnb and landlady all need interrogated and investigated throughly as in their bank accounts, phones etc … As a parent I would have been searching that whole island and going round with his picture to see if anyone had seen him…Nothing adds up at all and as they say there is no smoke without fire !!!
@jeancunningham8013 I agree with what you mean about sniffer dogs, except I did see a video showing the terrain and they were explaining that not all areas can be searched by the dogs because of how dangerous it is for them, with unstable paths, holes, rocks ect .
With the last snapchat photo he took at the accommodation you can see that the hand with a cigarette is white.. where we know the 2 men he went to the accommodation with were black, so if the case is that Jay wasn't there.. that implies another person to have taken that photo of themselves holding the cigarette. I don't see what the motive would be for his friends, the land lady and the two guys to say he was there if he was not? We know his mobile phone was there in that location because of where it pinged.. I can't think of why everyone would be in on it, especially the land lady?
If Jay never ended up in Masca, then where did he go? There's alot of CCTV cameras in the area the rave was.. surely some type of CCTV would have picked him up at some point after the rave..
What's your thoughts on the motive?
How do they know what the Canarian police are investigating, when Canarian police are not divulging any information whatsoever?
Why should they? They may know more but not want to warn someone they have their sights on as being involved or knowing where he is. Our own police often say they do not wish to give out more than basic information because it might hamper their investigation to do so.
Because our system is a little different. Don't need to create an 🤹♂️ about this.
they famous for cocaine that cop force
The criminal got lost, there's nothing to investigate further, at least not if Lucy said the truth about their conversation and him lacking water, food and being injured.
@@Alexandra-dy2nsdo you still believe that?
The TikTok gangster met some real gangsters and it didn't end well for little jay
@@user-zd9wc8xn3e 100% correct!
Yep
Yep play big boy games and get big boy punishment
There can only be 3 possibilities, he is either:-
1) Alive
2) Dead
3) Both alive and dead like Schrodinger's cat.
PERHAPS HE'S BEEN STEALING SCHROEDINGERS COKE
What if he's suspended in Cryogenic stasis?
Schrödinger's Chav
@@supersardonic1179no he is definitely in tenereach
DON'T PAY A PENNY TO THIS FUND.
DavidAp-sy1qr You can't tell people don't pay out money to A Fund people do care if it was their family they would like the help but I believe Jay had no choice but was taken by one or two people when he got to the bnb if he made it that length???
@@beverleythompson1226 Believe me. This person already convicted of GBH, was no angel.
@@DavidA-ps1qr I agree with what ur saying
The worrying part is , it could be anyone of us that goes missing and we'd hope we'd be found without authorities flippantly ignoring clues.
Won’t be me because I keep myself to myself ? he’s a drug dealing ket head and a little grafter , play with fire get burnt ?
unlikely as you probably would not be associating with convicted drug dealers or allegedly selling drugs at the rave. or allegedly used half the drugs he was supposed to sell and didn't have the money to give the dealer, so as I say 'allegedly' I think you would be safe enough.
Most of us do not get involved with drugs.
No, not this way. I'm not a criminal, not a gang member that attacks teenagers with machetes, not involved with drug dealers and not a thief.
If I go on holidays I don't party myself into oblivion, nor do I go with strangers and I'm preparing myself for the trip. This includes reading about the terrain, its challenges, the appropriate equipment and let someone know exactly where I'm going if I plan to wander around for hours. The authorities have searched longer than anybody is suspected to survive in such a tough terrain and it's understandable that they aren't going to waste time and resources on this reckless, criminal tourist anymore.
Only if your a drug dealers mule like him and owe money.
Let me just try and find someone who gives a f...
so why are you here ?
@@Gimenez528Hz Because it’s EVERYWHERE. You can’t really avoid it.
@@pommiebearsyes you can.
If they got all the people who actually gave a fuck about this scrote together, they would have a search team. It wouldn't be a big one.
@@sussertheoriginal he doesn't deserve to be found then ?
I ain't gonna slander a kid but he wasn't an angel let's face it.
But I am really struggling with the fact it's not being regarded has a potential murder.
The girl seems mega dodgy and the fact he was up in the mountains with a couple of wrong uns.
Why haven't they all been pulled in for interrogation.
The fact the lad said he gave him somewhere to stay because he had nowhere. When in fact his hotel was down the road from where he was partying.
It's a madness, all the moaning about internet sleuths, they seem to be the ones doing the proper work.
This info was online after day 1 as friends were on social media blowing the whistle. Its a shame that they didn't bother to dig then. Too much time has passed to find him alive if outdoors unless he was kidnapped. Therefore, he will be around. Another possible scenario is that the friends know where he is but won't comment due to his compa y perhaps being with dealers, etc.
I hope he returns home so the family can get peace of mind 🙏
Would be libel on a RUclips comment, not slander.
Former met police officer accusing spanish cops of corruption 😂😂😂😂😂
that's a laugh if ever I heard one
Oh dear, did the nice policeman not bring you the breakfast you wanted to your cell?
Only one eye-witness said she saw Jay at the airbnb and outside the airbnb. Ofelia.
Ofelia's brother is a mayor dismissed from his office for corruption. He is also the owner of the airbnb.
She's a Cyclops?
Interesting, i did not know her bro was a corrupt mayor plus owner of the bnb, mmh 🤔
Wow. That is a very important information. I hope the authorities know this. Have a nice day!
@@reddyreddy2618 yes, she is, because a one-eyed witness and one eye-witness are one and the same!
Yep, I am starting to doubt her story.
Go fund is still accepting ££...from what fools??
Labour voters leftists
Something really doesn't add up with this situation
This lad is an absolute fool, as if the uk police are any better
Correct, he show annoying arrogance.
Delirium of grandeur
@@ricksmith1673 its a spot in the sea they own. there will be no evidence. ever. he ran.
You have drug dealers and mafia everywhere. I live in spain and found the police and everybody very helpful is ok to sit in another country and find fought you do not know the terrain
This guy should behind bars in the UK 😡
Why?
@@CrueLoaf because he is a convicted violent criminal and by his own admission stole a £12,000 Rolex watch, is that a good enough answer to your question ?
@@malcolmcarroll9497 not sure where you got your evidence from. But don’t do jury service will you?
He has played Charlie big boy with the Top lads & he got fed to the pigs.
big chance of that small fish in a big pond
Don’t know he could have been set up
Right now theres more fucking experts than you can shake a stick at.
15 minutes of fame brigade
They are doing more of investigation than the police!
The word expert has no meaning anymore. Just like the word racist.
Nobody's has asked me, for my expert opinion...
@@waynekerrr9027 Nor mine
I usually enjoy Peter's contributions, but blacklisting Tenerife because a few low life had some fallng out is just plain stupid. You can find low-life criminals all over the world, and the Canaries are wonderful islands of astounding natural beauty. I bet Peter hasn't even heard of the nature reserves, such as Punta Del Teno, or beautiful, historic towns and villages, such as La Oratava, scattered around the diverse and stunning volcanic landscape of Tenerife. Dismissing the whole place just because of a few idiots - who aren't even Canarian - just makes you look like a thick, Sun-reading bigot ... but I don't genuinely think Peter is that type of guy. There is much more to Tenerife than Los Cristianos and a few dodgy nightclubs
So true. Thank you.
Is there any wonder that there are protests against British tourists in Spain and other places. Some just make such a nuisance to the local people.
Yes its as if he dont want people going there.why dont he on his program pit it out there the risks about the strip and surrounding areas. Or warn people with leaflets in the holiday details
Not stop people enjoying them selves. We can all afford the high life. Thy should of never left the lad on his own i would of dragged him out of the rave. Wjy didnt thy wait for the rave to finish o its ok if your tired but leaving him to his own devices may of cost Jay his life.shes. a lot dodgy
Tenerife has a serious problem with organised crime and drugs. Why are you glossing over this?
He's making himself look a tool
If the friend was a actual friend you would have said where are you I will come with taxi and pick you up
Peter bleksley actually says nothing ...
Like a lawyer gets paid by the word.
As usual. Nothing but a con job listening to this blagger.
He sounds like a complete fool. He’s no idea what the Spanish police know.
Sounds like Starmer
@@Paul-wt7wo i agree. Like that Mike Baker when hes on the Joe Rogan show.
2 hours of talking but telling you nothing.
Two things i don't get with these go fund me pages. First : During my long life if someone in the family needed help the extended family would help. If someone was arranging a funeral but were skint then you got a bank loan or the like. You certainly wouldn't make it public knowledge that you were skint and ask complete strangers for money. . it's akin to begging on the street ( how embarrassing ) Second : Who are these stupid people giving money on line to people they don't even know and have no idea how it will be spent? I stopped giving to any charities years ago when a friend of mine who worked for one of the big ones as an event organiser was offered a new " company " car every year instead of every 5 years. All i would do now is unwanted items to animal charities. . that's my limit.
Same thoughts exactly, couldn't agree more
No charity is straight, not even the animal charities
Always makes sense to take the bus rather than walk aimlessly over rocky desert country.
If Jay had joined the Scouts he would have learned this advice.
He could have taken a taxi or uber
@@ladyg1969 Maybe not, taxis don't always go to remote areas
@@amo2464 if you pay and order one per phone they come
@@amo2464 now that i think of it its even strange his friend s did not sent him one and went there.. Knewing where he was..
Maybe Jay never went for a bus or an 11 mile walk, maybe he was telling porky’s to throw everyone off his trail.
A fool and their money are easily parted.
I feel terrible for Islands like Teneriffa Mallorca Ibiza that get invaded by drunk brittish youngster that behave more than stupid and arrogant to local population and think they are Gods on Holmdahl and imortal in their behaving. Not wonder people get into trouble. Where alcohol and drugs get into a persOn it seems brains leaving them.
I bet Spanish police wish they didn’t have to deal with the British, remebered that March a little while back where they were protesting that too many foreigners. ( Brit’s) taking over places like Tenerife and other areas 😂
Why is all the media being dishonest about the guys history, why is it being ignored?
Who the F cares, why is this news??
My sentiments and entirely.
It's important we find him.
@@capndallas4918 really isn't
His mum😥😥
A distraction
If he is alive and can survive this he will make a fortune from the book.
Nobody gets lost for 3 weeks in a limited space like an Island. If he has not turned up in 3 weeks, he's dead or he is hiding. There are no other alternatives. Tenerife is simply not BIG enough to get lost in the manner that someone could say, in the ALPS or something.
@@hsk2909It is. Nicola Bulley got lost for a month, 1 mile away.
The family, and Lucy will already have an agent negotiating their newspaper ‘exclusives’ which is why they are not giving press interviews but rather releasing ‘statements’ and today photos only of Dad and brother.
@@hsk2909 Agreed. Other nefarious actions occurred.
@@joolz2305 That Lucy is so gormless sounding. - when one hears her speak , every other word is ''Like''..Like ,we went to the rave, like, I spoke like to Jay, like, he like said he was thirsty, like and had like 1% battery like.'' Any interview she gives will be like, like, like, like, like.
Peter is making a lot accusations without evidence. If he has evidence, say it.
PETER BLEKSLEY SHOULD NEVER BE INVOLVED IN ANYTHING LIKE THIS EVER AGAIN
Guy now has egg on his face
If this is more about the arrogance of Peter, then send him over to Tenerife, and have him do his own searches.
I usually enjoy Peter’s contributions but he’s making a total fool of himself over this case
hes deluded him. hes not even a good detective
Why!
True. He was only mocking these "conspiracy theories" a week ago, now he is agreeing with them... WTF. He should of just listened to the comments in the first place 😂😂😂. Young grasshopper will learn.
@@merson812
Why. Why? Why!
Why is he
It took this cop 3 weeks to come to the conclusions the public arrived at in the first week. If I ever go missing, please don’t let this ex cop look for me 🤣😂😡🤪
He goes on about speculation then speculates to the extreme
I do not understand No water?? The lady who had the air b and b, would have given him water!!! Word had it she has a little cafe there??? Any bright person would not go hiking in that heat without water 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
The GFM was set up so quickly??? The mother took out £36 grand immediately? Why?
All very unreliable! Lies and innuendos!!!
And she clearly said she saw him going in the wrong direction?? Why not stop and tell him??
This smells more fishy than Billingsgate on a hot summer day
Everyone said it was right from beginning but oh no your just muddying the waters 2 weeks later your saying what was said all along!
The landlady is lying....
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. A young wannabie gangster messed around and got his comeuppance. All this BS about him wandering off into the hills. Give me a break will you. Play silly games - win silly prizes. He's well buried somewhere.
@@rossi6113 I said the same thing! Karma is a real b*tch
or hostage for non complience
Then Lucy lied with the call!?!
@@Alexandra-dy2ns 1000% yes. She is up to her eyes in it.
@@andrewforrester2648 No not a hostage - dead and gone. He messed around with the big boys which was a fatal error. Dumb kid thought he was in the big time.
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
As this takes place on an Island off Africa there are Vultures, had a body been any where there would be birds flying in the skies over it for hours these would be visible and lead you to the body
That is an exact copy of my posting
As said STOP criticizing the Spanish police, they know what they are doing and they aint stupid, they called off the search..........because his not there!!!
The most likely outcome is they find his corpse after he died of dehydration. Likely to be somewhere previously searched without sufficient care.
I dont think he's that stupid to try to walk back without food and water he would have waited in the b&b for next bus
Absolutely, as anyone that watches missing people vids regularly, knows.
@@lalla7541No he wouldn't coz he was thick.
There's a main road with parked cars right outside the AirBnB, presumably the same one he drove up. Why on earth not walk/hitch/catch a bus back along it rather than go cross country with obvious ravines and sheer cliffs.
I think he went in the sea
Rolex is the code word for drugs on the islands. Just so happens he's hanging around with dealers, Steals a "Rolex" and goes missing....hhhmmm
Rolex is a specific type of ecstasy tablet. It comes in a variety of colours with “rolex” on one side and the Rolex five pointed crown on the other.
He didn't steal a rolex he stole an a.p watch
It wasn’t a Rolex it was an AP watch but yes the word Rolex is in regards to ecstasy.. it goes back to the 80s probably before 😊
I agree. But there was no rolex involved.. the word rolex was not ever used either as Jay shared a snapchat that he had stolen an "AP" off somebody- which surely could only mean a Audemars Piguet watch?
@@Maria19107 I think it was thrown out there to throw people off. - media report a Rolex but Jays photo is an AP watch so IMHO I think the media got it wrong and then the pic was different so it’s now a guess as to what was actually taken. Rolex/AP/Drugs anyone of these 🤷🏽♀️
Nobody has (yet) mentioned it, but here is a barranco (gorge) that leads directly from Masca to a small beach. There is a jetty for tourist boats to tie-up. In peak season there are tourist boat trips from nearby Puerto de Santiago to hike up the gorge. It's a tough climb up, but far easier coming down.
Why are we still having this rubbish put to us when there are hundreds of missing children or adults who's loved ones would love to have this media coverage instead of this person. It makes me angry just to listen to this BS, stop giving money to them they are using the money money for a extended holiday inviting family and friends. How many times has mum and dad searched lets have a good think????????? The answer is none. Keep your hard earned cash for your own family. Rant is over.
Jay is thinking how am i going to get out of this....
if he is still alive he is fkd
@@andrewforrester2648 100% Agreed
Yes .. its awful youngsters going out there drinking and drugs.. This has to stop ✋️
Most youngsters don't deal with the drug dealers and joey for them 😂
"Would be" Gangster ended up finding out what real criminals do when they don't get paid...
Exacto , gracias .
Avoid Tenerife if you're british 🇬🇧❌🇬🇧❌🇬🇧❌🇬🇧❌🇬🇧❌🇬🇧
No
@@susiew2521 jog on dip sh*t lets hope you get lost out there 🇬🇧❌😎
No! Only avoid it if you're a drug dealing British thug
And what’s he going to say if it turns out this boys been killed. The implication is Jay don’t want to be found well he’d have a hard job if he’s dead by someone else hand of coming back . Or if he’s being kept somewhere . I don’t think victim blaming of shaming is the answer. I think the British consulate should be bringing pressure to bear on the Spanish police to do more. Investigate these two individuals their associates on the island including Lucy who appears to know them more than she’s saying.
Why do they keep saying Rolex when it was an AP. Big difference.
What's an AP?
Audemars Piguet watch 😊
Because the thief thought he had stolen a Rolex 😂
@@junearcher1 but he didnt he said an AP in his snap…
Who is to say that the Snapchat message from Jay actually came from Jay to start with though. (Looks good on review if someone goes missing, standard to send a message to a family member.. make it look like an accident, then destroy the phone)
Yea it came from his phone, and yes the phone apparently had low battery, but nothing here makes any sense in regards to why anyone would wonder off into the overgrowth when basically in the middle of nowhere, sounds almost as if he was running away from someone or something and ran in said direction and hurt himself in the process.
The only thing that comes to mind for the reason why would be:
1: Bad Trip.
2: Being hunted because he stole a 12K Watch.
3: Aliens.
Pretty sure its not the third option but would not put it past certain news media.
Maybe he looked at maps on his phone and tried to go as the crow flys. Fell off a cliff
Paranoid /hallucinating after a weekend bender of drugs. IF he disappeared in the first place.
@@hsk2909 hmm, there is that of course.. also I find it strange how dogs did not pick up on a scent or did but lost track? I mean thats super rare.. providing the dogs used to track are actually decent anyways as been part of the search and rescue team for a while and Not standard police
There’s no verifiable proof that Jay even went to the AirBnB. Just the word of a convicted drugs dealer, that of the sister of a man who rents out his apartment to the same convicted drugs dealer and the claim of a phone call with Jay from a woman that posts photos of herself with dodgy men and their flash cars on her instagram/facebook.
@@The-best-channel-on-youtube Exactly! Supposedly lost in the middle of nowhere, hot climate, no water and low phone battery. Why didn't he phone the police so they could send out search and rescue?
The armchair conspiracy theorists are due an apology.
It'll never happen.
They certainlyd do
why have they solved the case? or do they just think they have without due cause or ACTUAL evidence
@@brettrigby2226 The investigation appears to be going in the direction that people on social media said it would.
Why there's no evidence of wrong doing
Apparently Eastenders won’t let Jays mum appear on the show because her acting in front of the cameras is worse than Nick Cottons
“ allo Ma “ 😂
It’s like the shorts “when roadmen meet real gangsters” 😂
Absolutely right.
They do not want his body found, he upset some criminals out there, by stealing a Rolex, he messed with the wrong people.
Don't know why you keep calling this little criminal a teenager. The mother never went out on any searches and the rest of his dealer friends were flown over to Tenerife for a jolly. Bunch of scammers...all of them
Having a go at the Spanish police ...what a hypocrite from a former Met Police officer.
Why ? Spanish police don’t give a fuck about British tourists. It isn’t a secret the police on the island are corrupt. They should never have allowed the two guys in the Airbnb to leave Tenerife.
What utter stupidity from Vincent
The bloke whose apartment he went back to said he borrowed Mr Slater a phone charger when they got back.
Seems odd that if he'd charged his phone it was on 1% at 8 o'clock?
It all sounds very suspicious. A thorough open investigation by the Spanish police would have restored the faith of the millions of tourists going there annually , in it being a safe and well policed place. Very odd that wasnt done, even though tourism is a top earner!
Spot on about police
If anyone was interested in an evidence based search, they'd find the phone in the shrub ( they'll need machetes) take it to an independent forensic lab for prints and dna, to see who threw it there.
And they'd find the name of the boat that turned its transponder off in that area
Maybe jays mam still has his one
If he did go off track I don't believe that he would have gone that far that they wouldn't have found him during the searches, depending upon how competently the search has been conducted.
Wont be going to tenerife in my life time
Love that Talk TV hasn't taken this video down. This is the type of show it is.
I agree with Peter calling this out ... as a Mother myself .. you want your children to be safe when travelling at all times.
Then tell them not to be effing pricks, dear Mom!
I want MY kids to be safe from guys like this low-life!
Are you raising tiny little dealers too?
@@susivarga7303typical internet minds stop listening to rhubarb on the internet you sausage absolutely a sausage no other words to describe you your mouth and fingers are bigger than your brain. Another conspiracy theorist let’s hope ‘the victim’ doesn’t rob your granny yeah stop talking about someone you have never met never will so you obviously know f all about this kid so keep your small minded opinions to yourself if you wernt so fat you’d have a bf to talk to you don’t have a boyfriend cause a real man would tell you to keep your nose out of 💩that doesn’t involve you yeah shut your mouth and speak when your spoken too yeah you little melt
I love it when adults are referred to as “children” to get sympathy when in reality this man is an adult and a criminal thug. Stolen Rolex drugs.
@@susivarga7303 i would think not, as a mother myself you dont want anyone to harm a hair on your childs head,no matter what age
Jay went to tenerife as Jay had a sex change and came back as lucy
The money was for the operation
Changing gender is all the rage with the kids these days
Mashallah brother said tarquin
Oh KH I fkg love you lady, you brighten my day every time.
Keep it going mate x.
He was bummed and dumped and his parents had it away with the publics money after taking an expensive family vacation . Now let us get on with supporting England .
Bummed in what way?sorry can’t fathom 😮
@@JP-lk2qs you are joking aren’t you 🤨
@@Trish-ql9kz I am serious actually
@@JP-lk2qs in that case it’s a word beginning with r and ends with d
@@Trish-ql9kz got it ty
How could they start murder investigation from the get go...what a load of crap!?
WHY HAS THIS "CASE" HAD SUCH A HIGH PROFILE????
Because of those two men.
@@lyndkent-cl2oe My guess is it's because it has more layers than an onion and none of it adds up.
@@mwmichelle1 Yea...Man, corruption makes monies!!
@@andersondasilva1334 ? Why is it?...kid goes missing on a walk!
@@andersondasilva1334 I'm UK...& so tell me?..what am I missing!!
He just described mafia, drug, dealers gangsters, etc. etc. he just described London!
This is absolutely brilliant, Peters cynicism and dry wit is wonderful. 😂
They keep saying stayed the night at the B&B.. No he went back there between 5am & 6am and basically left not long after he got there .. he was there more than hour or so which is strange as to why he wanted to leave as soon as !!
The guys he went back with said they were asleep, then say he went for ciggies & didn’t go back etc etc
His ‘mate’ Brad said he was laughing on phone to him, Lucy said he seemed disoriented then this mark willians Thomas had reason to believe he left scared not long after arriving ALL totally different !!
This whole case is so confusing & has everyone gripped
I’m sure the truth will come out soon as it’s all gone pretty quiet on the update front in last 24 hours or so since it was said the phone might have been thrown 😢
I have intentionally missed out alot of information in my other comment, particularly in relation to techniques and investigatory methods that we can utilise. Any other DS reading this will know exactly what I'm referring, particularly relating to cell site triangulation, movement of devices and other devices checking in with the same CCT and travelling with Jay's device. We can also ascertain whether or not his phone was manually powered off and shut down or whether it was indeed a dead battery. If I was the SIO in this job, I would be throwing everything at finding that phone, and obtaining the cell site data for each and every phone connected to that tower at the time Jay was reported missing and backtracking several hours to when his device checked in with that cell tower before it dropped from the network. Any other devices connected at that time, I'd want to know who those devices belong to, their IP addresses, telephone numbers, and from there cross reference them against one another to ascertain any potential links.
Oh the suspense, criminality amongst criminals.
Hes at home hidding counting the money 😂😂😂
If the rumours are true about this lad, he is/was a little fish way out of his depth in these waters. The reported go fund me amount reportedly £50.000 is hopefully being handled by an independent broker not connected in any way to the lad or his family. Go fund me is to get sick or injured individuals home who haven’t got adequate insurance, it is not an holiday fund for all and sundae.
What flavour sauce would you like with your 'sundae' sir?!
Don't you mean sundry?
@@adoremus4014 salted caramel please.
@@rickyhank118 probably, I was eating an ice cream when I wrote it.
@@johnwaldron7490 you're forgiven 😁
At the begining his mother said she wanted all the family to come over to search and the GFM would pay for it.
Family vacation paid with GFM money. They will find Jay and then be all over the media and selling a book to make more money.
why would you decide to walk 11 hours when you could wait 2 hours for the next bus
Why does Peter always use words like hypothesis like he is breaking the English language with mad words 🤣🤣🤣