NOTES & SOURCES A significant amount of information from this video came directly from Erzya leader Syres Bolyaen and Moksha leader Donisi Chovhanon. Both were kind enough to answer multiple questions for me, and help me understand the unusual ethnic composition of Mordovia. All responsibility for errors is mine however, not theirs (and I'm really sorry for probably mispronouncing both of their names). Additional sources include: Syres Bolyaen's address to the people of Russia in March 2022: ruclips.net/video/1D4ZLAtcP2U/видео.htmlsi=udb6c0kFDaAYaaQN Syres Bolyaen innagurated as the new Inyazor: novynarnia.com/2019/09/13/syriaes-bolen/ Free Idel-Ural: idel-ural.org/en/ The Moksha entry from the Free Nations League website: freenationsleague.org/en/moksha--100ee987b806fcf9829d2834796f8430.html Moksha want to unite with Erzya: www.idelreal.org/a/32212813.html The Moksha independence programme: www.idelreal.org/a/32533751.html
This is a very interesting topic indeed. Some fun facts about Bolyaen Syres: - he is (almost) fluent in Ukrainian - his national awakening happened after he met Vyacheslav Chornovil (one of the most important political figures in Ukraine in the '90s) - Erzya version of his Wikipedia article is written in the Latin script
Should Russia finally collapse any time now, could this so-called 'Mordovia' be split up like Czechoslovakia shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991? Would the Erzya and Moksha really follow the example of the Czechs and Slovaks of the early 90s?
Great question! When I spoke to Donisi, the Moksha leader, I made this same analogy. He said that's exactly the sort of model they would like to follow: independence together followed by a friendly separation. The Erzya leadership wants to create a much larger, federal state that would include Moksha territory in Mordovia and areas where Moksha live in neighbouring oblasts, so I suspect they would not support a Czechoslovak path.
Any time now Said nobody 3000 year ago still waiting for something that would never occur because it would like braking the basic principals and laws of the universe
Been living there for a couple of years in the past and I've always wandered, how do they think independent Mordovia could even exist, let alone an independent Moksha state. Everything Mordovia has is a barely held together lamp factory, couple of liquor factories and agriculture. The territories where Mokshas live, even worse, just prisons and agriculture. Furthermore, Mordvin culture is almost dead except for some post-modernist parody-looking attempts at recreating it. If this place goes independent, an economic miracle is required for it to not fall apart in a decade. Really, same applies to almost every one of Russia's subjects. The realest outcome of gaining independence for any of them is becoming a copy of an average African state, except in the Northern Hemisphere. That's my point of you. Just really want to hear arguments against it, because every one of such movements seem to have a problem with handling their wet dreams.
@@FredoRockwell ikr. Also can you make videos about the other Ural Republics (Mari-El, Udmurtia and Chuvashia) as well as the idea of the Ural Republic.
@@cgt3704 My goal is actually to make videos about those three republics so I can cover the entire South Ural region. The problem is the independence movements in these republics are much smaller. I've made contact with a small community of Chuvash independence activists, and I have a viewer from Udmurtia who is regular contact. I will do my best to make it happen!
Great video, I shared it in my Telegram channel! I hope there will be no conflict between Moksha and Erzya in terms of territory, because sometimes I see some Erzya are arrogant to Moksha on the Internet, but I also guess these are not real Erzya but just some Russian provocateurs "wannabe" who do this.
It is wild how many national movements have been revived in and around Russia recently. It seems that every time Putin decides to strengthen or enlarge the "Russian World", it becomes smaller instead.
There are no such movements just individuals who are high on drugs with country fan fiction projects. The information in this video is taken from these blokes and its all fabricated. Literally anybody can go and look this sh*t up
These movements have always existed and of course there are outside actors that provide them with resources despite them being unpopular. Mordvins wanting independence from Russia is like Minnesota wanting independence from US. There is a movement but it’s deeply unpopular it might as well not exist
@@againstviralmisinformation510 These movements may have always existed, but it seems, that they are currently growing more popular (even though they may not be that popular overall). When people are talking about unnamed "outside actors", it usually means that what they're talking about is a made up conspiracy theory, that they can't prove in the slightest.
I'm optimistic about them getting their independence, but as far being able speak their own language, it might be too late. Fact is I wouldn't be surprised if the younger generation sees no net benefit to learning the language of their ancestors, think what happened with Ireland and Gaelic for example. It's far more likely than younger generation will exchange learning Russian for learning English if anything. Though of course, language is merely one aspect of culture, and despite what the Quebecers will tell you, it's far from the the most important aspect of culture.
Of course. this is a very big problem among the Erzyans and Mokshans. Young people, alas, are not interested in learning their native language. I, for example, am making a self-study guide to help Russian speakers learn Erzyan, and then I plan to localise various content into Erzyan. Perhaps there will also be a version of the self-tutorial for English speakers, so that it will be easier for companies to make official localisations of their products into Erzyan. That's all I can do at the moment. I apologise if there are any mistakes in the comments, I am writing through an online translator. By the way, my Erzyan name is Icäl Kudäj.
Well even if the languanges would be gone, they can still be revived with enough time and resources. A perfect example is Hebrew, which was revived in the first half of the 20th century after it was stoped being used as a common tongue by jews for over a millenia. But even then, like you said a languange is not an important part in preserving a culture. Taiwanese, though they variations of han chinese, they dont identify themselves as chinese (especially the younger generation)
This video will be very important for all of us (sorry, I’m writing as a translator). very interesting and useful material. will there be such videos about Komi, Perm and Udmurtia?
I'm glad you like the video! I made a video about Aleksei Ivanov, the Komi activist that refused to speak Russian to Komi police and in the courts in Komi. Udmurtia is on my list. I don't know Perm - feel free to send me information if you have it.
@againstviralmisinformation510 Puerto Rico held a referendum in 2012 with independence as an option. It got 5%. You need a better whataboutism example.
@@FredoRockwell oh so you do know how to use polls. Do the same for Mordovia I’ll wait and if you are calling for the independence of these republics and meeting with Russian republics without having any evidence to back it up than you just did the same thing I did. For what I could tell it got on your nerves.
@againstviralmisinformation510 I'm not in a position to organise opinion polls inside Russia. If the Russian state allowed an independence referendum to take place anywhere in its territory I'm pretty sure I'd make a video about it though.
@@FredoRockwell hey keep making these sort of videos ...I am glad you went to free Russia forum. would really love a video on ingermanland,centred around at petersburg area. I feel like most of the people around the world have little to no idea about supressrd nationalist movement inside Russia.
@c.augustedupin8860 I'll do my best! I'm also interested in Ingria. There was a representative from Ingria at the Free Nations Forum, but he was reluctant to speak to me for some reason. I'll see what I can do!
@@FredoRockwell I have collected few leads and have gained certain imp. info about ingrian people and ingria...they have their own SM presence. not only ingria,there is novgorod republic,samaland movement,komi republic movement,karelia,peskov republic movement,Ural republic....interesting and colourful movement ,each with their own ideology and their own motivation for separatism. I just hope you can cover them...the world deserves to know about them,so that we can learn about the gate of people because what happened to them is not unique to them,it happened to groups in the middle East,china,north east india,central Asia and the middle East .
Ахаха, чего только на свете нет, оказывается. Какие-то челики, которые наверняка даже в России не бывали, чертят карты независимой Мордовии. Дониси, my ass. Маня-фантазии, натурально
There are lots of different maps in circulation. Some are, no doubt, drawn by interested people from outside Russia. Some are drawn by local people. Either way, the local movements themselves are genunie.
@@FredoRockwell The entire idea of Mordovia's independence is just ridiculous. Some fringe elements are giving themselves titles, they're drawing something, lol. What nonsense? It's like if I were to change my name to Sharp Falcon right now (while being in Russia), proclaim myself the supreme leader of the Iroquois and start drawing maps of an independent Indian country located in the territory of New York State. Then I would find such a fool from another tribe, musing about free Oklahoma. Together we would organize a conference of enslaved peoples of America, where we would meet such mentally ill people, seriously expressing their nonsense. I observe such a level of discourse.
@@FredoRockwell The entire idea of Mordovia's independence is just ridiculous. Some fringe elements are giving themselves titles, they're drawing something, lol. What nonsense? It's like if I were to change my name to Sharp Falcon right now (while being in Russia), proclaim myself the supreme leader of the Iroquois and start drawing maps of an independent Indian country located in the territory of New York State. Then I would find such a fool from Usti, musing about free Oklahoma. Together we would organize a conference of enslaved peoples of America, where we would meet such mentally ill people, seriously expressing their nonsense. I observe such a level of discourse.
@@FredoRockwell RUclips somehow deleted my comment, but okay. There is no national movement for Mordovia's independence. All these "leaders" are just fringe elements, whom nobody knows in the republic. You, as a foreigner, might not understand this, but it's all very funny to me. As if I were to proclaim myself the supreme leader of the Iroquois right now (being in Russia), call myself Hawkeye, and at a conference with such folks talk about the Great Iroquois Nation, which will be created on the territory of the state of New York.
@Vasiliy230 I agree there is no national moment for independence of Mordovia - one of the points of the video is that Mordovia is an artificial construct imposed on the indigenous peoples of the area. There are movements for independence among Erzya and Moksha people. I've spoken to members. Yes, they're in exile. Publicly advocating for separatism inside Russia is not legal, so if course they are. I also don't doubt that it's not something most people currently support, especially when taking about it will land you in prison! But the fact is that, whatever size the national movements of each people were a few years ago, they're growing and becoming more set on independence since the full scale invasion of Ukraine. The recent protests in Bashkortostan are an example of how disconnect with Moscow is bubbling up and changing political discourse. Regarding your analogy with the Iroquois, it would be very weird for you to claim to be an Iroquois leader of you're in fact not from North America. Do you think I'm claiming to be Erzya or Moksha? Or that other people in the video are not what they claim to be? By the way, I've made a Short about Ganienkeh, a Mohawk community in Upstate New York, if you want to check that out. 🙂
the independence movements in these places are actually less serious or genuine than Texan independence from the USA unlike texas mordovia was never independent and has never fought a war with it's country
Lots of countries have no history as independent countries until they do. Independence rarely happens the same way twice in history, but I'm not aware of any where a history of independence was a deciding factor. It's what's happening on the ground at the moment of independence that's key.
@FredoRockwell Oh sorry it was a joke because in Bojack Horseman there is a country called Cordovia and in one scene one of the characters says "there is a delicate balance in the alliance between the cords and ovians."
@FredoRockwell It's a good show, you should watch it if you can find the time. Love your videos by the way I've always found obscure geopolitics and separatism to be interesting but there are very few and far between channels that cover this kind of stuff.
@@rorythecomrade4461 Thank you! It's something I've always been interested in. Now that I'm getting to meet and of the people working to get freedom for their people, it feels a lot more like a mission!
This is true, but it might help that Europe did the same when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. My biggest worry is actually that there might be conflicts over borders between the new states, as the republics in the Russian Federation are much less neatly divided than the republics of the Soviet Union. Preserving peace as much as possible should be a priority for Europe and the rest of the world.
@@FredoRockwell Lithuanian is and was the majority in that region meanwhile other than in the caucuses Russians are the majority population in all autonomous republics
@@FredoRockwell clearly not what I was saying and btw Lithuania was independent for years before ever being part of Russia so i don't think it was ever ridiculous
there are more Russians in this oblast than "mordovins" so this makes 0 sense what so ever. the autonomous republics were created because of large minorities not because of majorities just like how 86% of Karelia is russian the only republics with magiorites are in the caucuses. if this oblast had a vote for independence it would lose because the people are mostly russian. and even if they had magiorities i doubt they would want independence because they would be poor as hell and they are already autonomous
I guess if you're willing to reduce an issue to its most binary alternatives in key places, with no regard to any alternative solutions, one can prove that almost anything is impossible. Thanks for the demonstration.
@@FredoRockwell there are 3 alternatives 1 full integration, 2 being autonomous (which it is) and 3 independence. and since it is majority russian with a very large minority it will never be independent
NOTES & SOURCES
A significant amount of information from this video came directly from Erzya leader Syres Bolyaen and Moksha leader Donisi Chovhanon. Both were kind enough to answer multiple questions for me, and help me understand the unusual ethnic composition of Mordovia. All responsibility for errors is mine however, not theirs (and I'm really sorry for probably mispronouncing both of their names).
Additional sources include:
Syres Bolyaen's address to the people of Russia in March 2022: ruclips.net/video/1D4ZLAtcP2U/видео.htmlsi=udb6c0kFDaAYaaQN
Syres Bolyaen innagurated as the new Inyazor: novynarnia.com/2019/09/13/syriaes-bolen/
Free Idel-Ural: idel-ural.org/en/
The Moksha entry from the Free Nations League website: freenationsleague.org/en/moksha--100ee987b806fcf9829d2834796f8430.html
Moksha want to unite with Erzya: www.idelreal.org/a/32212813.html
The Moksha independence programme: www.idelreal.org/a/32533751.html
What make these clowns leader beside self claims?
One of the most fascinating videos I've watched this week
That's high praise!
As a Chuvash myself it’s very sad to see our language die. We’ll see how this will turn out.
This is a very interesting topic indeed. Some fun facts about Bolyaen Syres:
- he is (almost) fluent in Ukrainian
- his national awakening happened after he met Vyacheslav Chornovil (one of the most important political figures in Ukraine in the '90s)
- Erzya version of his Wikipedia article is written in the Latin script
I'd noticed that the materials coming out of the Erzya National Congress were in the Latin script! I guess that's a statement in itself. Thank you!
Should Russia finally collapse any time now, could this so-called 'Mordovia' be split up like Czechoslovakia shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991? Would the Erzya and Moksha really follow the example of the Czechs and Slovaks of the early 90s?
Great question! When I spoke to Donisi, the Moksha leader, I made this same analogy. He said that's exactly the sort of model they would like to follow: independence together followed by a friendly separation. The Erzya leadership wants to create a much larger, federal state that would include Moksha territory in Mordovia and areas where Moksha live in neighbouring oblasts, so I suspect they would not support a Czechoslovak path.
Any time now
Said nobody 3000 year ago still waiting for something that would never occur because it would like braking the basic principals and laws of the universe
So now you want to split mordovia lol? So you want to just have 100 mini states lol. Take away Bavaria from Germany and Catalonia from Spain
Been living there for a couple of years in the past and I've always wandered, how do they think independent Mordovia could even exist, let alone an independent Moksha state. Everything Mordovia has is a barely held together lamp factory, couple of liquor factories and agriculture. The territories where Mokshas live, even worse, just prisons and agriculture. Furthermore, Mordvin culture is almost dead except for some post-modernist parody-looking attempts at recreating it. If this place goes independent, an economic miracle is required for it to not fall apart in a decade. Really, same applies to almost every one of Russia's subjects. The realest outcome of gaining independence for any of them is becoming a copy of an average African state, except in the Northern Hemisphere. That's my point of you. Just really want to hear arguments against it, because every one of such movements seem to have a problem with handling their wet dreams.
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Awesome video Fredo!!!
Thank you!!
I knew it was mordovia.
These republic is a strange one for sure.
Yep, you were correct. And yes, it's strange - but the strangnest is imposed by Moscow, not something the people themselves have produced.
@@FredoRockwell ikr. Also can you make videos about the other Ural Republics (Mari-El, Udmurtia and Chuvashia) as well as the idea of the Ural Republic.
@@cgt3704 My goal is actually to make videos about those three republics so I can cover the entire South Ural region. The problem is the independence movements in these republics are much smaller. I've made contact with a small community of Chuvash independence activists, and I have a viewer from Udmurtia who is regular contact. I will do my best to make it happen!
@@FredoRockwell allright then. I will be waiting patiently
@@FredoRockwell I think this republics exsist like all republics becouse they where autonomious republics in Ussr and they gets reforms
Great video, I shared it in my Telegram channel! I hope there will be no conflict between Moksha and Erzya in terms of territory, because sometimes I see some Erzya are arrogant to Moksha on the Internet, but I also guess these are not real Erzya but just some Russian provocateurs "wannabe" who do this.
Thank you! I really hope there's no conflict either. The more discussion there is about these issues before independence, the better I think. 🙂
It is wild how many national movements have been revived in and around Russia recently. It seems that every time Putin decides to strengthen or enlarge the "Russian World", it becomes smaller instead.
That's a very good observation. It's like holding onto sand - if you squeeze it comes out through your fingers.
@@FredoRockwellor when you strech a plasticine. It will inevitably break into many parts
There are no such movements just individuals who are high on drugs with country fan fiction projects. The information in this video is taken from these blokes and its all fabricated.
Literally anybody can go and look this sh*t up
These movements have always existed and of course there are outside actors that provide them with resources despite them being unpopular. Mordvins wanting independence from Russia is like Minnesota wanting independence from US. There is a movement but it’s deeply unpopular it might as well not exist
@@againstviralmisinformation510 These movements may have always existed, but it seems, that they are currently growing more popular (even though they may not be that popular overall).
When people are talking about unnamed "outside actors", it usually means that what they're talking about is a made up conspiracy theory, that they can't prove in the slightest.
I'm optimistic about them getting their independence, but as far being able speak their own language, it might be too late. Fact is I wouldn't be surprised if the younger generation sees no net benefit to learning the language of their ancestors, think what happened with Ireland and Gaelic for example. It's far more likely than younger generation will exchange learning Russian for learning English if anything. Though of course, language is merely one aspect of culture, and despite what the Quebecers will tell you, it's far from the the most important aspect of culture.
Holding on to a traditional language is difficult, but Wales is a relatively good example of what's possible.
Of course. this is a very big problem among the Erzyans and Mokshans. Young people, alas, are not interested in learning their native language. I, for example, am making a self-study guide to help Russian speakers learn Erzyan, and then I plan to localise various content into Erzyan. Perhaps there will also be a version of the self-tutorial for English speakers, so that it will be easier for companies to make official localisations of their products into Erzyan. That's all I can do at the moment. I apologise if there are any mistakes in the comments, I am writing through an online translator. By the way, my Erzyan name is Icäl Kudäj.
That's wonderful to hear. I wish you the best of luck ensuring that Erzya speakers increase in number!
It’s never too late if the language is digitally preserved
Well even if the languanges would be gone, they can still be revived with enough time and resources. A perfect example is Hebrew, which was revived in the first half of the 20th century after it was stoped being used as a common tongue by jews for over a millenia.
But even then, like you said a languange is not an important part in preserving a culture. Taiwanese, though they variations of han chinese, they dont identify themselves as chinese (especially the younger generation)
This video will be very important for all of us (sorry, I’m writing as a translator). very interesting and useful material. will there be such videos about Komi, Perm and Udmurtia?
I'm glad you like the video! I made a video about Aleksei Ivanov, the Komi activist that refused to speak Russian to Komi police and in the courts in Komi. Udmurtia is on my list. I don't know Perm - feel free to send me information if you have it.
Or what about Ingria, East Karelia, Ingushetia, North Ossetia, Circassia, and Siberia?
@roberthoyt7921 I'll keep making videos until they're all done. 🙂
Как эрзя из Сарова интересуюсь, куда нас относят? Жаль, что нас определили к территории Нижегородской области(
I'm aware there are many Erzya and Moksha living in other federal subjects. I regret I didn't have time to go into this in the video. 😯
Very fascinating video. Good job, Fredo! 💪 I'm sure, Mokshas & Erzyas will be free & sovereign so close than ever before.
Thank you, and thank you for your help making this video! I'm sure I mispronounced your name, but I really tried to get it right. 😯 So sorry.
@@FredoRockwell there is no mistake. U did it well.
@DenysKovaliov I think you're being kind, but hopefully it was close!
Ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine will be free
the republic is majority russian
Freedom to the peoples of Idel-Ural!!! 🤝💪🤝
Freedom to Puerto Rico!!!
@againstviralmisinformation510 Puerto Rico held a referendum in 2012 with independence as an option. It got 5%. You need a better whataboutism example.
@@FredoRockwell oh so you do know how to use polls. Do the same for Mordovia I’ll wait and if you are calling for the independence of these republics and meeting with Russian republics without having any evidence to back it up than you just did the same thing I did. For what I could tell it got on your nerves.
@againstviralmisinformation510 I'm not in a position to organise opinion polls inside Russia. If the Russian state allowed an independence referendum to take place anywhere in its territory I'm pretty sure I'd make a video about it though.
@@FredoRockwellI should have said Texas instead of Puerto Rico
thank you a lot for this video
It's my honor to help tell this story!
Fascinating
Glad you think so!
@@FredoRockwell this channel's going places, keep it up
Спасибо за видео
educational video.
I'm glad your think so!
@@FredoRockwell hey keep making these sort of videos ...I am glad you went to free Russia forum.
would really love a video on ingermanland,centred around at petersburg area.
I feel like most of the people around the world have little to no idea about supressrd nationalist movement inside Russia.
@c.augustedupin8860 I'll do my best! I'm also interested in Ingria. There was a representative from Ingria at the Free Nations Forum, but he was reluctant to speak to me for some reason. I'll see what I can do!
@@FredoRockwell I have collected few leads and have gained certain imp. info about ingrian people and ingria...they have their own SM presence.
not only ingria,there is novgorod republic,samaland movement,komi republic movement,karelia,peskov republic movement,Ural republic....interesting and colourful movement ,each with their own ideology and their own motivation for separatism.
I just hope you can cover them...the world deserves to know about them,so that we can learn about the gate of people because what happened to them is not unique to them,it happened to groups in the middle East,china,north east india,central Asia and the middle East .
Ахаха, чего только на свете нет, оказывается. Какие-то челики, которые наверняка даже в России не бывали, чертят карты независимой Мордовии. Дониси, my ass. Маня-фантазии, натурально
There are lots of different maps in circulation. Some are, no doubt, drawn by interested people from outside Russia. Some are drawn by local people. Either way, the local movements themselves are genunie.
@@FredoRockwell The entire idea of Mordovia's independence is just ridiculous. Some fringe elements are giving themselves titles, they're drawing something, lol. What nonsense? It's like if I were to change my name to Sharp Falcon right now (while being in Russia), proclaim myself the supreme leader of the Iroquois and start drawing maps of an independent Indian country located in the territory of New York State. Then I would find such a fool from another tribe, musing about free Oklahoma. Together we would organize a conference of enslaved peoples of America, where we would meet such mentally ill people, seriously expressing their nonsense. I observe such a level of discourse.
@@FredoRockwell The entire idea of Mordovia's independence is just ridiculous. Some fringe elements are giving themselves titles, they're drawing something, lol. What nonsense? It's like if I were to change my name to Sharp Falcon right now (while being in Russia), proclaim myself the supreme leader of the Iroquois and start drawing maps of an independent Indian country located in the territory of New York State. Then I would find such a fool from Usti, musing about free Oklahoma. Together we would organize a conference of enslaved peoples of America, where we would meet such mentally ill people, seriously expressing their nonsense. I observe such a level of discourse.
@@FredoRockwell RUclips somehow deleted my comment, but okay. There is no national movement for Mordovia's independence. All these "leaders" are just fringe elements, whom nobody knows in the republic. You, as a foreigner, might not understand this, but it's all very funny to me. As if I were to proclaim myself the supreme leader of the Iroquois right now (being in Russia), call myself Hawkeye, and at a conference with such folks talk about the Great Iroquois Nation, which will be created on the territory of the state of New York.
@Vasiliy230 I agree there is no national moment for independence of Mordovia - one of the points of the video is that Mordovia is an artificial construct imposed on the indigenous peoples of the area. There are movements for independence among Erzya and Moksha people. I've spoken to members. Yes, they're in exile. Publicly advocating for separatism inside Russia is not legal, so if course they are. I also don't doubt that it's not something most people currently support, especially when taking about it will land you in prison! But the fact is that, whatever size the national movements of each people were a few years ago, they're growing and becoming more set on independence since the full scale invasion of Ukraine. The recent protests in Bashkortostan are an example of how disconnect with Moscow is bubbling up and changing political discourse.
Regarding your analogy with the Iroquois, it would be very weird for you to claim to be an Iroquois leader of you're in fact not from North America. Do you think I'm claiming to be Erzya or Moksha? Or that other people in the video are not what they claim to be?
By the way, I've made a Short about Ganienkeh, a Mohawk community in Upstate New York, if you want to check that out. 🙂
the independence movements in these places are actually less serious or genuine than Texan independence from the USA unlike texas mordovia was never independent and has never fought a war with it's country
Lots of countries have no history as independent countries until they do. Independence rarely happens the same way twice in history, but I'm not aware of any where a history of independence was a deciding factor. It's what's happening on the ground at the moment of independence that's key.
@@FredoRockwell there are 53% Russians in Mordovia what will be independent
There is a delicate balance in the alliance between the Mords and the Oviana!
I'm not familiar with Oviania. Do tell, either here or feel free to message me on Discord or send an email. 🙂
@FredoRockwell Oh sorry it was a joke because in Bojack Horseman there is a country called Cordovia and in one scene one of the characters says "there is a delicate balance in the alliance between the cords and ovians."
Sorry I didn't get the joke! I've only seen a couple episodes! :)
@FredoRockwell It's a good show, you should watch it if you can find the time. Love your videos by the way I've always found obscure geopolitics and separatism to be interesting but there are very few and far between channels that cover this kind of stuff.
@@rorythecomrade4461 Thank you! It's something I've always been interested in. Now that I'm getting to meet and of the people working to get freedom for their people, it feels a lot more like a mission!
Hello sir
Hi Dr Leo. 🙂
If Russia collapses then Europe has a lot of work to do with helping these smaller countries.
This is true, but it might help that Europe did the same when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.
My biggest worry is actually that there might be conflicts over borders between the new states, as the republics in the Russian Federation are much less neatly divided than the republics of the Soviet Union. Preserving peace as much as possible should be a priority for Europe and the rest of the world.
What about Cornwell independence?
What about it?
@@FredoRockwell what's your view on it?
I'm not generally disposed to support it, but I'd be open to hearing a good argument for it.
Independence doesn’t make much sense, but devolved powers seems natural
@@toagonel7045 Of you're taking about Cornwall, I agree!
What a joke
I can remember when the idea of an independent Lithuania seemed like a joke to many.
Which ? The Russians classifying 2 ethnicities as 1 or the Mokshans and Erzyans wanting independence ?
@@FredoRockwell Lithuanian is and was the majority in that region meanwhile other than in the caucuses Russians are the majority population in all autonomous republics
@Baba_Bahebal I don't think Lithuanian is widely spoken in Mordovia. That's a crazy claim.
@@FredoRockwell clearly not what I was saying and btw Lithuania was independent for years before ever being part of Russia so i don't think it was ever ridiculous
there are more Russians in this oblast than "mordovins" so this makes 0 sense what so ever. the autonomous republics were created because of large minorities not because of majorities just like how 86% of Karelia is russian the only republics with magiorites are in the caucuses. if this oblast had a vote for independence it would lose because the people are mostly russian. and even if they had magiorities i doubt they would want independence because they would be poor as hell and they are already autonomous
I guess if you're willing to reduce an issue to its most binary alternatives in key places, with no regard to any alternative solutions, one can prove that almost anything is impossible. Thanks for the demonstration.
@@FredoRockwell there are 3 alternatives 1 full integration, 2 being autonomous (which it is) and 3 independence. and since it is majority russian with a very large minority it will never be independent
@Baba_Bahebal Sounds like you've got nothing to worry about, then. The Russian Federation, by your telling, sounds as stable as the old Soviet Empire.
fr!!!!!