"We're sending a stealth superwarship to sneak past all Dominion defenses to their vulnerable leadership, and inform them that we're not a threat." *Flawless*
I love how the Romulan who's rude and uninterested in friendship ends up being the valuable ally, whereas the polite Eddington really is there to make friends, but has no intentions of being one himself
@@SantomPh No he didn't. His arc was one of DS9's many low points, a melodramatic exercise in literary concepts beyond the abilities of writers and actors alike. Nothing Eddington did or said had any weight behind it, any reality. He was a caricature trying to be a person.
"We have to convince them that the Federation is not a threat." Yes, I am sure a ship that is overgunned, overpowered and equipped with a cloaking device is a great symbol of peaceful intentions. 🙂Thankfully the Defiant was everything she was advertised to be, and more.
Its called talk softly but carry a big stick. The old biblical saying "The Meek shall inherit the Earth" is also this. Be someone that people can respect. Show that you can and will destroy any who cross you but you prefer to not to use that, you look for more constructive terms and make sure that your counter party knows that to do otherwise is not fruitful.
There's a concept known as 'gunboat diplomacy.' A great power would send a single warship into a foreign harbor. It would usually be more technologically advanced and powerful than anything the locals had. The message was simple and obvious, 'we are more powerful than you are and we're not afraid to come right to your front door.' Then you'd negotiate from a position of strength. I'm sure the Federation's hope was to impress the Dominion and make them more reasonable at the bargaining table. It didn't work but was probably the best option they had short of collapsing the wormhole.
You want more knife-twisting? The Dominion knew all about her.. and when they occupied the planet her husband and children were on? Had them specifically executed.
@@TheFiddleFaddle I never said her family was on Cardassia, any novel allowed to be published can be considered endorsed-by-source and therefore just as Canon as anything else, and Memory Beta simply catalogues this. Canon is multiple choice. My statements aren't false just because you don't agree with the source.
1:46.....one of the few times you hear the Romulan "whoosh" of a cloaking device with the Defiant. They change it for future episodes, give it a strange electronic whine instead :(
Starfleet has recognized DS9 as a major strategic choke point in a potential war with the dominion. As a result we have sent you a single escort class vessel. Nevermind that Starfleet has thousands of vessels, this one ship is all you get.
Ah yes, but one dinky little escort vessel looks like less of a threat then a full detachment. A bunch of Miranda’s, because that is most likely what would be sent, is going to be a fairly inadequate force, meanwhile the single Defiant, while looking a bit pathetic, is actually a very significant threat and so is far more likely to catch a hostile force off guard. Plus it also gets the Defiant much-needed development work to get the design to state it can be produced in numbers. It’s actually quite a clever tactic. Plus Sisko gotta have his Pimp Hand…
It's so true. Had they put 5 fleets by the wormhole, it would have been like the Persians trying to take Thermopalae with no way round the shield wall. The Dominion might have broken through eventually, but they would have lost thousands of ships.
I mean it's a plot device, but I suppose narratively you could argue that assembling a large fleet at a station without logistical support in place would raise tensions after 2 months of nothing, and might not function quite as effectively without developed supply lines.
@@manjackson2772 According to lore they did a full production run of them since the dominion war was so much bigger than what was presented in the show. The difference is that only the defiant had a cloak the rest did not. There was even one ds9 episode with a defiant class with a crew full of fresh cadets training to fight in the war. Iirc they got blown up.
Dominic Toretto: So much torque, the chassis twisted coming off the line. Benjamin Sisko: It nearly tore itself apart when the engines were tested at full capacity.
well yeah a dodge charger doesnt have a chasis, its wielded together bodyparts that form a structure, its why so many on the dukes of hazard only lasted one jump, the defiant however,
@@tcsmagicbox There is no problem with someone liking both shows but I think JMS should have been on the credits and paid for his ideas that featured in DS9.
@@concernedcitizen8231If you're going to set that kind of precedent we'd have to go all the way back through Hollywood. Lol Even George Lucas would have to give up his main credits for Star Wars 🤷♂️
@@shadowvessel Do you know the back story to this? JMS pitched B5 to Paramount. They turned him down and stole it. It got renamed to DS9, JMS wanted to sue but got talked out of it by Warner brothers as the cost of litigation would have sunk both shows.
Anyone else wish there had been a flashback to Sisko's visit to Earth? Briefing the admirals. Haggling for the Defiant. Pulling off a deal for the Romulan cloaking device.
Who knew that all these years the Federation was building long range luxury liners that just happened to have weapons, but when the Dominion comes along even the morally superior Federation must stoop to building a "war" ship. (Still a great series though.)
I never saw any of this before I watched _First Contact_ in the theater. Was never home early enough from work to catch DS9 on UPN. Didn’t have Cable TV either so it wasn’t worth trying to record grainy reception with the VCR. Imagine my confusion seeing the Defiant with Worf in command, shooting at the Borg Cube, losing weapons, and almost getting ready for a ramming attack before the Enterprise E showed.
I JUSST remembered why the handle "Commander Eddington" seemed SO Familiar: U S Navy Commander Paul Eddington, portrayed by Kirk Douglas in IN HARM'S WAY. I had been thinking Hornblower, but I kept rejecting it. Some things must run in the family: Paul Eddington didn't turn out so well, either.
They had to call her the Defiant cause Starfleet thought it would be uncooth to allow the name, "Ben Sisko's motherfucking Pimp Hand!" to go on an official register.
This was the moment when the writers realised that being based on a space station is limiting our story options, they needed a mobile ship to get the Star Trek feel lol.
When the concept came out, I always thought that here was an opportunity in the reverse of Star Trek. Instead of exploring the universe, positioned as the station was next to the wormhole, they could have the universe come explore that station, and then, you'd have the same feel as you had with Star Trek. But let's be honest: DS9 was a break from TNG and TOS in that the writers were looking to get out of the strictly exploratory and scientific nature that the other two represented.
The same thing happened with Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, and it turned an adequately entertaining show into an interstellar pile of Hawkman feces.
@@DrownedInExile Difference being in B5 we regularly saw multiple White Stars in battle or just idly flying around whereas the Defiant was one-off apart from episodes like Valiant or when the Defiant was destroyed and the Sao Paolo renamed to replace her. The only time they showed multiple Defiant-class escorts at once was in Voyager when the Romulans stole the Prometheus.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel And that makes even less sense in DS9's context. Why wouldn't the Federation mass-produce a warship like the Defiant, in a time of war? Yes it would mean more copying of Babylon 5. But they already did so much of that, what's one more? This could have easily been woven into the plot. The Feds were having a hard time ramping up their fleet production, plus getting the Romulans to cooperate. The Sao Paolo could have been part of a new series of Defiant-like Escort ships appearing in the final battle. They no longer have cloaking devices, but instead have better defenses and medical facilities.
And people say the Tal Shair are less effective than the Obsidian Order lol. When only one organization survived the battle of the omarion nebula and had a operative in the delta quadrant.😜
TV show limitations aside, it’s insane to only send one vessel into the Wormhole to find the Founders. Especially when you know nothing about them. The Borg threat becoming less immediate should also just have meant that they should’ve changed plans and shifted to a long term strategy of building a thousand.
Originally it was supposed to called the Valiant, but with Voyager in the works, they thought that two ships that started with V would be too confusing for the audience, so they changed it to Defiant, which is a much better name in my opinion.
One thing that made 0 sense in DS9 is why the Federation didn't station a full fleet of at least 20-30 ships at DS9 full-time once the Dominion started to become a threat.
Remember that the Federation Council has many representatives that are intellectual pacificist members. They do not believe in warfare and would destroy other species in debates over the matter. So I could easily see time factors being used by these members to steer Starfleet away from producing purposeful vessels of warfare.
The Pegasus was in season 7, and O’Brian left the enterprise in season 6. Also that “incident” would probably be hushed up and not general knowledge throughout starfleet’s lower ranks.
Martha Hackett is great! Also, it's hilarious that the ship chosen to lead a peace initiative with the Dominion is the toughest vessel Starfleet has on offer.
@@javaman7199They needed a tougher ship to negotiate peace? If I were the Founders, and the Federation sent the toughest ship they have to my borders, I would not assume they want to talk peace.
It's amazing how a slight change in the number of frames per second is pretty much unnoticeable in most voices, but then you'll get one person who sounds like they inhaled helium.
The defiant should have included a phase cloak allowing it to fire while cloaked, and phased torpedoes. Defiant blows up entire dominion fleet by itself. Problem solved.
I dont ships are capable of using weapons while cloaked, the power requirements to cloak means, you cant have shields or weapon, the exception is the reman warbird, which can cloak, and have shields and fire weapons at the same time, So its assume the power generation of the scimitar can power all the systems at once, probably the thalaron generator providing extra power.
There's tons of stuff they could use their tech for that would end battles in a hurry, but then they wouldn't have episodes. Like fill an old spaceframe with anti-matter and warp it into a borg cube. Or teleport some planet-cracking bombs onboard ready to detonate, since the Borg are so carefree about letting people transport aboard. IDK. Just lots of stuff they could do against their worst enemies, but that they don't because they have to make a show. Even the most basic of stuff, like say in a fleet battle, you'll see a galaxy class shooting 1 torpedo at a time - like just spray them, all 250 or whatever on board, never stop firing into the enemy fleet
@@cman32826 that was experimental and highly volatile, also that was from the 23rd century. by the 24th century, most anti-cloak scanning technology far surpasses that weak cloak from that old ship. it relied on just -barely- cloaking enough to not be noticed by a normal scan, and then still being stable enough to fire. The dominion also had some kind of proton scanner that could detect cloaked ships that were moving around at warp speed, so they had to be extremely careful
Jesus, it would have been Stalingrad in Space, building by building, room by room, grenade duels, ambushes, and most of them would've been dead by the end (assuming any survived at all).
Red Alert was enough, that includes raising shields and energizing phaser banks…but I guess it sounds cooler to say all that too, lol. Or maybe because she was Bajoran she didn’t know Starfleet protocol (doubtful)
The introduction of the Defiant is interesting to me, because it's touted as this awesome warship but in it's first mission it's engines render the cloak useless, the shields don't work and in the end it still gets it's ass beat.
Funny the Federation alleges not to believe in having "war ships" but they all have major weapons and use them in most episodes. They were all war ships but with a lot of families and science labs.
You can thank the Borg for that. Humanity may have achieved enlightenment in the 24th century, but a lot of people in the galaxy still haven't learned to respect each other yet. They owe it to themselves to at least have some level of self defense, or else no one will hesitate to walk all over them
"We're sending a stealth superwarship to sneak past all Dominion defenses to their vulnerable leadership, and inform them that we're not a threat."
*Flawless*
I love how Starfleet assigned Eddington to DS9 because they didn’t trust Odo, and in the end he turned out to be the biggest traitor of them all 😂
"Have you reminded Starfleet that they assigned Mr. Eddington because they didn't trust me?"
"No."
"Please do."
- DS9, "For the Uniform", I believe
Eddington was the most human person on DS9. He was a hero.
Was he? Or was Eddington right about them and the Cardassians all along?
@@Newyorkred_rg8oua safe galaxy is a human galaxy
@@nunya3163 About the Cardassians? Yes. About the Federation? Possibly.
I love how the Romulan who's rude and uninterested in friendship ends up being the valuable ally, whereas the polite Eddington really is there to make friends, but has no intentions of being one himself
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"as someone who IS obsessed with rank and title..."" Eddington could have been a great anti-hero or a sympathetic villain. He ended up being both
Well he had places to be. It's hard work tracking down the Black Fortress.
Missed opportunity with that Romulan officer. Would loved to have seen more of her.
@@SantomPh No he didn't. His arc was one of DS9's many low points, a melodramatic exercise in literary concepts beyond the abilities of writers and actors alike. Nothing Eddington did or said had any weight behind it, any reality. He was a caricature trying to be a person.
Seska really is a master of disguise.
Dang I knew she looked familiar but I couldn't place where!
@@slayeddreamer3820 That's because she's a master of disguise!
Wha…. That’s Seska? What? The Romulan? Wha-
It could be Seska. The premiere for Voyager didn’t start until the latter half of this season of DS9.
@@Farzlepot She's a slippery one!
"We have to convince them that the Federation is not a threat."
Yes, I am sure a ship that is overgunned, overpowered and equipped with a cloaking device is a great symbol of peaceful intentions. 🙂Thankfully the Defiant was everything she was advertised to be, and more.
Its called talk softly but carry a big stick. The old biblical saying "The Meek shall inherit the Earth" is also this. Be someone that people can respect. Show that you can and will destroy any who cross you but you prefer to not to use that, you look for more constructive terms and make sure that your counter party knows that to do otherwise is not fruitful.
There's a concept known as 'gunboat diplomacy.' A great power would send a single warship into a foreign harbor. It would usually be more technologically advanced and powerful than anything the locals had. The message was simple and obvious, 'we are more powerful than you are and we're not afraid to come right to your front door.' Then you'd negotiate from a position of strength. I'm sure the Federation's hope was to impress the Dominion and make them more reasonable at the bargaining table. It didn't work but was probably the best option they had short of collapsing the wormhole.
@nelsonchereta816 sub space weapons on the otherside at strategic points would have been more useful, if a bit warcrimey
I love that line: "She may have flaws, but she has teeth'.
I remember watching this episode and thinking that T'Rul would be a regular character. I was bummed that they forgot about her.
You want more knife-twisting? The Dominion knew all about her.. and when they occupied the planet her husband and children were on? Had them specifically executed.
@@calanon534 Memory Beta doesn't count. Star Trek novels are woefully inconsistent, and "her family was on Cardassia" is goofily convenient.
@@TheFiddleFaddle I never said her family was on Cardassia, any novel allowed to be published can be considered endorsed-by-source and therefore just as Canon as anything else, and Memory Beta simply catalogues this.
Canon is multiple choice. My statements aren't false just because you don't agree with the source.
2:10 Major Kira: "I hope you brought some clean underwear, too because we need a lot of them right now."
1:46.....one of the few times you hear the Romulan "whoosh" of a cloaking device with the Defiant. They change it for future episodes, give it a strange electronic whine instead :(
I'd never noticed that before, but you're right. I think I prefer the whoosh
huh never noticed that
That "whoosh" was the real technology T'Rul was there to protect.
Every clip I see makes me want to go back and start watching DS9 again. Lost count of how many times I've watched it.
"Officially, it's classified as an escort vessel. Unofficially, it's my MF pimp hand."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Always remember, it‘s only named Defiant because the „USS Ben Siskos motherfucking pimphand“ was too long for the hull
@@TheRaidenLP the name's there in small text.
"Lol get it? 'Pimp hand' because Sisko is black, GET IT? HA HA GET IT!?"
Idiotic.
That's funny! Cause he's bLaCk! 🤣.
Enjoyed these episodes; it's like watching a movie!
If only they didn’t use so much stock footage during the later fleet battles🤷♂️😔
If they ever did a remaster, replacing that stock footage should be number 1 priority, @@djayk9692
At least someone can. These shows were never accessible to the deaf due to not being captioned.
Starfleet has recognized DS9 as a major strategic choke point in a potential war with the dominion. As a result we have sent you a single escort class vessel. Nevermind that Starfleet has thousands of vessels, this one ship is all you get.
We also won't install a shroom of doom because lol, ghetto bajor.
Ah yes, but one dinky little escort vessel looks like less of a threat then a full detachment. A bunch of Miranda’s, because that is most likely what would be sent, is going to be a fairly inadequate force, meanwhile the single Defiant, while looking a bit pathetic, is actually a very significant threat and so is far more likely to catch a hostile force off guard. Plus it also gets the Defiant much-needed development work to get the design to state it can be produced in numbers. It’s actually quite a clever tactic.
Plus Sisko gotta have his Pimp Hand…
Subject to the requirements of the plot.
It's so true. Had they put 5 fleets by the wormhole, it would have been like the Persians trying to take Thermopalae with no way round the shield wall. The Dominion might have broken through eventually, but they would have lost thousands of ships.
I mean it's a plot device, but I suppose narratively you could argue that assembling a large fleet at a station without logistical support in place would raise tensions after 2 months of nothing, and might not function quite as effectively without developed supply lines.
You know when you're watching "The Search" because it's the only episode where Terry Farrell wore her hair in that huge Janeway bun.
The Defiant - one of a kind, and TOTAL BADASS !
My favourite vessel in all of Trek.
One of a kind if you don't count the other two.
@@manjackson2772 According to lore they did a full production run of them since the dominion war was so much bigger than what was presented in the show. The difference is that only the defiant had a cloak the rest did not. There was even one ds9 episode with a defiant class with a crew full of fresh cadets training to fight in the war. Iirc they got blown up.
@@nonaurbizniz7440valiant
@@nonaurbizniz7440 the Valiant. Two others also showed up to kick Romulan ass during Voyager along with an Akira.
Sub Commander Taroo should have been a recurring character.
I honestly think she was meant to be
I thought she was killed.
she was. @@elanorglf
T'Rul
One of my favourite moments in star-trek is when the defiant de-cloaked! What an entrance!
Dominic Toretto: So much torque, the chassis twisted coming off the line.
Benjamin Sisko: It nearly tore itself apart when the engines were tested at full capacity.
The Fast and the Furious came after this episode so in a sense they’re mimicking star trek.
Like the guy who shoehorned a Chevy 283 into a MG. If you rev the engine, the doors pop open.
well yeah a dodge charger doesnt have a chasis, its wielded together bodyparts that form a structure, its why so many on the dukes of hazard only lasted one jump, the defiant however,
@4:50 "Odo, head of station security, may I ask what your malfunction is here, commander?!" 😬
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Deep Space Nine - absolutely the best Star Trek ever!
Yes Babylon 5 is the best.
DS9 is a rip off of B5 just not as good but much higher budget.
@@concernedcitizen8231 I like them both, and they are both great shows in their own right.
@@tcsmagicbox There is no problem with someone liking both shows but I think JMS should have been on the credits and paid for his ideas that featured in DS9.
@@concernedcitizen8231If you're going to set that kind of precedent we'd have to go all the way back through Hollywood. Lol Even George Lucas would have to give up his main credits for Star Wars 🤷♂️
@@shadowvessel Do you know the back story to this?
JMS pitched B5 to Paramount. They turned him down and stole it. It got renamed to DS9, JMS wanted to sue but got talked out of it by Warner brothers as the cost of litigation would have sunk both shows.
Ah the Romulan character that never took and was quickly written off the show. Eddington... has staying power.
Bobaklives And written into “Voyager”.
It would have been nice to see that Romulan again once in a while.
Or probably because Martha Hackett got a recurring role on Voyager as Seska.
they could have just recast her. Until Picard we never had a main Romulan character.
Well one was there to make friends, the other wasn't
The first appearance of Ben Sisko’s m*****f****** Pimp Hand!!!
It HAD to be said at least once LOL
Damn it! You beat me too it faster than The Sisko beat Q
William Costigan sorry LOL
The pimp hand he personally designed 🤣🤣🤣
Ah yes. The Pimphand of Emissary.
They just keep getting better and better
"I have a surprise for the dominion!"
The Dominion: claps it immediately.
Anyone else wish there had been a flashback to Sisko's visit to Earth?
Briefing the admirals.
Haggling for the Defiant.
Pulling off a deal for the Romulan cloaking device.
Real life: We ran a Monte Carlo simulation with over 100,000 permutation tests.
Star Trek DS9: We've run *seven* simulations!
"Officially, it's classified as a White Star. But we're going to call it the Defiant."
Odo always to the point & always brutally blunt.
Odo's direct honesty and his glib tolerance of the Federation was just a few of his best characteristics tbh
If they had kept the Romulan Sec. Officer around as a character I think she and Odo would have had an interesting dynamic.
Who knew that all these years the Federation was building long range luxury liners that just happened to have weapons, but when the Dominion comes along even the morally superior Federation must stoop to building a "war" ship. (Still a great series though.)
Defiant was built to fight the Borg not the Dominion. All amounted to the same thing anyway. Dead bad guys and one tough little ship.
@@joshl6275 "Little?"
@@streakermaximus Canonically the smallest Federation ship ever made.
I never saw any of this before I watched _First Contact_ in the theater. Was never home early enough from work to catch DS9 on UPN. Didn’t have Cable TV either so it wasn’t worth trying to record grainy reception with the VCR.
Imagine my confusion seeing the Defiant with Worf in command, shooting at the Borg Cube, losing weapons, and almost getting ready for a ramming attack before the Enterprise E showed.
Get the DVD box sets. ♥️
@@julianaylor4351 DVDs in this day and age? They’re all streaming on Paramount Plus! If I buy any new box sets they had better be in UHD 4K.
2:11 Kira got her third alternative
Dax´s hair....omg. I am in love, again.
"I've brought back a little surprise for the Dominion" *_"Little?"_*
"I have a surprise for the Dominion."
A surprise? Do you have fifty more?
In the end the Romulan sub commander was more trustworthy than commander Eddington, the irony
Thanks for downloading these. I cant afford Netflix and where I live(out in the boonies), t.v. reception is dicy at best.
This was the moment i knew this show would be worth my time.
I JUSST remembered why the handle "Commander Eddington" seemed SO Familiar: U S Navy Commander Paul Eddington, portrayed by Kirk Douglas in IN HARM'S WAY. I had been thinking Hornblower, but I kept rejecting it.
Some things must run in the family: Paul Eddington didn't turn out so well, either.
Ben Sisko’s muthaf**kin’ pimp hand.
They had to call her the Defiant cause Starfleet thought it would be uncooth to allow the name, "Ben Sisko's motherfucking Pimp Hand!" to go on an official register.
This was the moment when the writers realised that being based on a space station is limiting our story options, they needed a mobile ship to get the Star Trek feel lol.
More like one of many moments they had to copy Babylon 5.
When the concept came out, I always thought that here was an opportunity in the reverse of Star Trek. Instead of exploring the universe, positioned as the station was next to the wormhole, they could have the universe come explore that station, and then, you'd have the same feel as you had with Star Trek.
But let's be honest: DS9 was a break from TNG and TOS in that the writers were looking to get out of the strictly exploratory and scientific nature that the other two represented.
The same thing happened with Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, and it turned an adequately entertaining show into an interstellar pile of Hawkman feces.
@@DrownedInExile Difference being in B5 we regularly saw multiple White Stars in battle or just idly flying around whereas the Defiant was one-off apart from episodes like Valiant or when the Defiant was destroyed and the Sao Paolo renamed to replace her. The only time they showed multiple Defiant-class escorts at once was in Voyager when the Romulans stole the Prometheus.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel And that makes even less sense in DS9's context. Why wouldn't the Federation mass-produce a warship like the Defiant, in a time of war? Yes it would mean more copying of Babylon 5. But they already did so much of that, what's one more? This could have easily been woven into the plot. The Feds were having a hard time ramping up their fleet production, plus getting the Romulans to cooperate. The Sao Paolo could have been part of a new series of Defiant-like Escort ships appearing in the final battle. They no longer have cloaking devices, but instead have better defenses and medical facilities.
"hello? dominion? yea, we come in peace, we mean you no harm, see how sharp our teethes are?"
So Seska was also a Romulan before she was Cardassian
And people say the Tal Shair are less effective than the Obsidian Order lol. When only one organization survived the battle of the omarion nebula and had a operative in the delta quadrant.😜
The Birth of the "Pimp Hand"........
TV show limitations aside, it’s insane to only send one vessel into the Wormhole to find the Founders.
Especially when you know nothing about them.
The Borg threat becoming less immediate should also just have meant that they should’ve changed plans and shifted to a long term strategy of building a thousand.
We were watching that happen in Voyager, but then they decided to restart and shit all over trek.
It was a stealth mission.
2:20 It’s a schematic of the original prototype “Valiant” before they redesigned it into the Defiant. 🖖🏻
Originally it was supposed to called the Valiant, but with Voyager in the works, they thought that two ships that started with V would be too confusing for the audience, so they changed it to Defiant, which is a much better name in my opinion.
One thing that made 0 sense in DS9 is why the Federation didn't station a full fleet of at least 20-30 ships at DS9 full-time once the Dominion started to become a threat.
Starfleet stopped development of a viable warship design because the threat wasn't as apparent? What a short sighted organization.
Remember that the Federation Council has many representatives that are intellectual pacificist members. They do not believe in warfare and would destroy other species in debates over the matter. So I could easily see time factors being used by these members to steer Starfleet away from producing purposeful vessels of warfare.
I love that Starfleet recognized the need for their own class of Rapid Offensive Units. Errr, I mean: Fast Pickets.😏
The first appearance of Benjamin Sisko's mutha fuckin pimp hand...
Miles, how quick you forget. Remember the Pegasus? :)
The Pegasus was in season 7, and O’Brian left the enterprise in season 6. Also that “incident” would probably be hushed up and not general knowledge throughout starfleet’s lower ranks.
I still get misty-eyed nostalgic when I see that sexy beast de-cloak for the first time.
The Search is a grew episode. It blew my mind the first time I saw it.
Martha Hackett is great!
Also, it's hilarious that the ship chosen to lead a peace initiative with the Dominion is the toughest vessel Starfleet has on offer.
Well they completely destroyed a Galaxy class starship a little while ago. Needed something a bit tougher.
@@javaman7199They needed a tougher ship to negotiate peace? If I were the Founders, and the Federation sent the toughest ship they have to my borders, I would not assume they want to talk peace.
Starfleet should have built a few hundred "exploratory" defiant class ships.
I'm so glad they didn't keep Terry Farrell in that odd hair. It looks like it must have taken hours and hours to do.
First time out it gets captured, enabling the Dominion to learn all its secrets 😆
As many times as I've seen this episode I NEVER noticed that Sisko hands the padd to O'Brien BEFORE he asked the question!
Maybe I'm wrong, but the Romulan woman is the Seska Harani.
U.S.S. Defiant aka Ben Sisko's Muther-fuckin' Pimp Hand!
Shoutout to SF Debris!
That Eddington guy looks suspicious.
That Michael Eddington is one smooth operator!
Odo knew right away that eddington was gonna pull a benedict arnold.
Dax’s hair at the beginning of this season was painful to watch 😂
What a GREAT ship!!
Definitely the ship for Hawk.
It's amazing how a slight change in the number of frames per second is pretty much unnoticeable in most voices, but then you'll get one person who sounds like they inhaled helium.
It was this scene that marked an incredible next few seasons. That is my favorite ship in star trek. It is so badAs$
Sisko immediately broke their treaty.
"I know their names, and I'm not here to make friends"
I am SO hot for this lady!
Its actually called the USS Ben Sisko's Pimp Hand.
The defiant should have included a phase cloak allowing it to fire while cloaked, and phased torpedoes. Defiant blows up entire dominion fleet by itself. Problem solved.
I dont ships are capable of using weapons while cloaked, the power requirements to cloak means, you cant have shields or weapon, the exception is the reman warbird, which can cloak, and have shields and fire weapons at the same time, So its assume the power generation of the scimitar can power all the systems at once, probably the thalaron generator providing extra power.
@@thehantavirus what about the klingon bird of prey from Star Trek VI?
There's tons of stuff they could use their tech for that would end battles in a hurry, but then they wouldn't have episodes. Like fill an old spaceframe with anti-matter and warp it into a borg cube. Or teleport some planet-cracking bombs onboard ready to detonate, since the Borg are so carefree about letting people transport aboard. IDK. Just lots of stuff they could do against their worst enemies, but that they don't because they have to make a show. Even the most basic of stuff, like say in a fleet battle, you'll see a galaxy class shooting 1 torpedo at a time - like just spray them, all 250 or whatever on board, never stop firing into the enemy fleet
@@cman32826 that was experimental and highly volatile, also that was from the 23rd century.
by the 24th century, most anti-cloak scanning technology far surpasses that weak cloak from that old ship. it relied on just -barely- cloaking enough to not be noticed by a normal scan, and then still being stable enough to fire. The dominion also had some kind of proton scanner that could detect cloaked ships that were moving around at warp speed, so they had to be extremely careful
@thehantavirus don't forget the Klingon bird of prey from Startrek VI
Would've been neat if they paid homage to a certain TNG episode had Miles not been as surprised by the cloak.
Right, the Pegasus!! Maybe he was on ds9 at the time.
Nope. The Pegasus was well before his transfer. DS9 in-universe I think would've more or less been after the Ent-D was destroyed. @@bran1581
@@bran1581I think O'Brien had to keep it secret.
@@mardus_eehe was already on DS9 by then
I wonder what would have happened if they decieded to use that cloak.
“Tough little ship.” “Little?”
I never noticed how big Dax's hair is. Holy crap!
The Defiant: One of the coolest federation starships ever.
No, the Defiance is not a warship, it's only an explorer cruiser heavily armed.
Oh No!!! Odo you do not want to know.
This was one of the best episodes. The defiant is my favorite ship
Defiant decloacks THE FUTURE OF WARFARE drops.
Jesus, it would have been Stalingrad in Space, building by building, room by room, grenade duels, ambushes, and most of them would've been dead by the end (assuming any survived at all).
I love Dax's hair here.
Thats when they got their neeeewwwww car
WWOR in Secaucus/New York/Brooklyn! KCOP in Los Angeles! WSBK in Boston!
Red Alert was enough, that includes raising shields and energizing phaser banks…but I guess it sounds cooler to say all that too, lol.
Or maybe because she was Bajoran she didn’t know Starfleet protocol (doubtful)
She's the first officer... rattling off the checklist to the non-coms and crewmembers that aren't Dax & O'Brien filling the other posts in ops.
Ah yes, the USS Sisko's pimp-hand
The introduction of the Defiant is interesting to me, because it's touted as this awesome warship but in it's first mission it's engines render the cloak useless, the shields don't work and in the end it still gets it's ass beat.
This was a mothballed prototype
After it's done alot of damage to the other side. Remember the enterprise d ends up crash landing. Was it a failure?
Brave little ship
Sisko, kills the entire fleet. "Cool Bro", it was his fleet.
Funny the Federation alleges not to believe in having "war ships" but they all have major weapons and use them in most episodes. They were all war ships but with a lot of families and science labs.
A tough little ship!
Little?
The Defiant class, aka Starfleets brass knuckle
"Starfleet doesn't believe in warships."
But they are armed with the best weapons and shields.
You can thank the Borg for that. Humanity may have achieved enlightenment in the 24th century, but a lot of people in the galaxy still haven't learned to respect each other yet. They owe it to themselves to at least have some level of self defense, or else no one will hesitate to walk all over them
@@jackylee5850 And that is the way it has always been, and will always be.
The Defiant was delivered by Amazon Prime btw..
Wow they were using tablets in Star Trek before we even knew what they were and if it was possible. Star Trek is the BEST
Tablet computers were used in Star Trek: The Original Series back in 1966, or even in the unaired 1964 pilot.
Tough little ship that.
There are a lot of people who say it was NOT built to fight the Borg
This is back when Star Trek was good.
Wish they kept her as a romulan on DS9 rather than casting her on Voyager. It could have made a good story arc
One wonders if the dominion are aware of the borg.