The Horsemeat March and the Battle of Slim Buttes
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- After the Battle of the Little Bighorn, the Sioux and Cheyenne moved nervously but without hindrance for a couple of months. General Terry and General Crook received the reinforcements they pleaded for but did not operate with any efficacy. While Terry goes home, General Crook leads his force on the Starvation, or Horsemeat, or Mud March in an attempt to get to the Black Hills. As a result, the Battle of Slim Buttes happens, but to no effect.
My Uncle, " Buckskin" Johnny Spaulding knew every inch of Slim Butes country. His daily journal writings are in the Belle Fourche Daily Bee archives. We have pictographs on leather that he found rolled up and stashed in a tree very near this sight. He guarded the Hay Camps in Spearfish Valley after he had to abandon the partially built cabin at what is now Minnesela, SD. He was building it for my GG Grandma and Grandpa, He later finished the cabin and it still stands, rock solid, as a museum in Belle Fourche. We have been living, ranching and hunting Harding County for five generations.
Awesome!
Brilliant analysis of the ‘battle space’ through this video. Descriptive use of maps, unit/force identifiers, terrain and weather aspects, and a ‘confident’ narrative had me ‘salivating’ over the details. Without question, one of the most BRILLIANT explanations of a military campaign I’ve ever seen or heard. Many thanks!
Man, I gotta tell you, your videos are spectacular! The composition, narration, and facts are second to none. Thanks for the awesome videos.
Masterful history telling, many thanks. My Great Grandfather, Second Lieutenant Hoel Smith Bishop, Company G, 1st. Battalion, Fifth Cavalry, West Point Class 1876, participated in the entire Horsemeat march. Regardless of the outcome of the campaign, I am amazed at the toughness of these soldiers. Also, Mr. Datameister, thank you for your service. I have a slight idea of what you saw and endured in Iraq. My Son did four combat tours as a 13 Fox with the 1st/113th FA. He is retiring as a CW3 with 20 years of service. I'm so proud of you guys.
Thank you for the comments, Daniel, they are greatly appreciated. It humbles me to hear from people that had relatives that participated in the events I cover.
You never hear much about this action. No one truly asks about the actions taken AFTER the Battle of the Little Bighorn. No one really talks about General Crook after the Battle of the Rosebud
Charles Robinson III in General Crook and the Western Frontier says very clearly that Crook went into camp after the defeat and idled for a month . in that time there was no attempts to contact the other 2 cavalry columns/ Crook obviously lost his nerve afer the battle and possibly contributed to Custer's dfeat. we'll never now -custer was so reckless that he might have gotten killed anyway. But Crook deleting hundreds of fighting men from the campaign is a black mark on Crook's record.
NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THIS BATTLE UNTIL RECENTLY.
I am an Irishman and I find this aspect of American history fascinating. I am curious of all those that died on that day, whether native or army. Its fascinating how diverse the 7th Cavalry actually was, with Germans, Irish, Italians, Americans, Swiss, Scotsmen.
The horse -meat March thru the seeming-less cold rain and wind, contrasting with the temperatures of the Rose bud march was and I'd a huge contributing factor. It throws shade at the organizational aspect of U.S. Doctrine of feeding and supplying her troops in the 1876 campaign. The winter campaign Nelson Miles had in '77/'78 were a stark contrast in the fact that.
We supplied, armed and provisioned our troops for near arctic conditions. Found a commander suited for such duty.
And troopers hardened by battle and weather to see it thru.
Oh.... And good sir I was not aware you diligently and bravely served our nation.
A most humble and honest thank you for your service. If you are ever in Cheyenne,Wyoming I'd love to host you.
:Side note.... When Crazy Horse and his band headed south him and some of his buddies rode pell mell south.... One place of interest is the Heck-Reel wagon fight 5 or so miles west of Glendo, Wyo. Off the Esterbrook road.
Another a day or so later was the "attack" at the Little Bear Stage Station which still stands. Built 1875!
This presentation is FANTASTIC.
Those photographs of the officers were unnerving, so lifelike, and for me reminiscent of a passage in Mark, "When the dead rise, they will neither marry or be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven."
Fantastic content, subscribed!
The leadership of the military during this war sucked. They were horrible and lead to so much suffering by the enlisted. It pisses me off. Thank you for informing us about this horrible march and battle. I had never heard of it. I also want to say Thank You for your military service.
Again good sir nothing but kudos for your videos. My gosh a lift to my day when I get a notification you have been diligently and accurately at work.
Massive kudos sir.
I had never heard of this fight. Thank you!!🙏🙏🇺🇸🕊
Great clip from Deadwood! The best western series ever made imho. Excellent details about this almost forgotten engagement. Very well done as usual!
The idea that Crook disobeyed direct orders from Sheridan has to be
Tempered by the fact sheriden was at a desk in washington....and was known for giiving orders absolutely impossible to follow in the field...which he did many times in the Geronimo campaign
Crook was a stroke.
the moving Portrait pictures are spooky
Another great video! The quip about the Disney movie was well said!
Excellent. More please.
Great video! Hopefully you can do one on the Dull Knife fight next.
Alwin. I am working on that and I think I will have a video out this Sunday...a short one. Also, I am planning on visiting the area of Cedar Creek and Wolf Mountain battles next weekend. I shall endeavor to get the videos out as soon as possible.
I get the impression that Crook "went native" to some degree.
Crook and a heart for them..
Meister, U are truly a gem! :) (I have one of the 45/70 TD rifles used during this horrific campaign. The TD is still 100% correct but shows the wear you would expect, I hold it dear to my heart.)
Thank you. I have put about 50 rounds through my replica.
Simply one of my favs to watch
The army attempting to recover any costs of the campaign, auctioned off the surviving horses at Deadwood. Knowledgeable farmers, ranchers, horsemen got $150 dollar horses for $5.00 dollars. Many of these horses were brought back to good health and for years served their new masters.
There is a good book about an indian kid from Az who scouted for Crook in this Battle...he wrote a book about his experience called The Only One Left,To Tell by Mike Burns....
Outstanding content, sir!
Nice work. Thanks for sharing
I would love to see a complete battle action history in large and small engagements by the U.S 2nd Cavalry
Fetterman had a detachment of 2nd Cav. About 25 troopers, I think.
@@kevinjones3127 Ah yes, the men from Company ‘C’ of the 2nd Cavalry.
Major Joseph R Hanson is my third great grandfather, and he was the Indian agent during the Red Cloud War's after his job was over, he goes back east leaving Claywalker and his daughter Mary Little Elk and married Elizabeth Mills, so his brother in-law is Arson Mills. The command of the military at this time is mostly Wasp. That is White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, which is only of British descent, going through the letters in the state archives of Hanson's it is easy to see that many of that group hated or could just barely stand others as they saw themselves as having to be burden with managing the world. There was tension between Crook and Mills because of Raynolds messing up the Winter campaign the year or so before. Raynolds hated the Irish and made them burn all of the pemican and buffalo robes in freezing weather.
And shortly after this, someone told Sam Sturgis to get his butt in the field.
I have this to add. While returning from this leave the Custer massacre took place on June 25, 1876. A. D. B. wrote to his mother on July 6th: TI1e terrible news of General Custer's disaster reached us this morning. We hope it may be exaggerated. But it does not surprise us as much as it will people in the States. Only those who have seen the Sioux know what they are. The army has not credited the sensational reports of each season but we knew that it would not be child's play when the time came . .. Custer who was a rash man has sustained a Bull Run disaster on a smaller scale.19 A. D. B. moved to join his regiment, TI1e Third Calvary, which joined General Crook's expedition on August 3, 1876. On August lO th again to his mother, "On August 5th we came north and east with 1350 Calvary, 480 Infantry and a train of pack mules. We are on the trail of the Sioux who moved away. TI1ey are evidently very numerous, but out of supplies for their horses and themselves. "20 Not until the fourteenth of September is he able to write again. TI1is time from the Black Hills. He recounts to his mother: Forty one days have now passed and instead of going to the (supply) wagons, the wagons are supposed to be coming to us. Supplies are also on the way to us from Camp Robinson at Red Cloud Agency, 150 or 160 miles to the south of us. Last night we were relieved from the pangs of hunger by the arrival of some flour, beef-cattle, etc., purchased by our commissary officers from citizens of the Black Hills ... we do not care what they do to us provided only that General Crook be not permitted again to command us while in the field. He is not fit to be entrusted with the safety of American soldiers nor of government property . .. we were good troops, well equipped and all anxious to fight out at once this Sioux business. It is now a herd of broken-down, ragged and unhorsed rowdies whose ruling passion is to get home and be left alone ... we have had a beastly march. No wagons allowed to accompany us, an insufficient train of pack mules, no shelter, nothing to cook with except tin cups, nothing to eat except hardtack and bacon, coffee and sugar, then half-rations of that, then quarter rations, then nothing, then dried meat captured from Indians, then horse meat. Rain day after day, wet blankets night after night, summer wardrobes for almost winter weather, protracted loafing along the way when we believed that Indians could not be caught . . . then break neck speed before we should be starved or snowed in in the open country. Four hundred horses broken down and abandoned, all the rest wounded or exhausted, or. saddles and property of all kinds destroyed. or turned away, prov1s1ons finally obtained at high rates from moving settlements ... Strange to say that my healtl1 had remained excellent in spite of the exposure, fatigue, and hunger ... On Saturday, September 9th-when only about 17 miles in front of us- Captain Mills fo und, Suprised and captured an Indian village of 31 lodges. He captured 156 Indian ponies, some dried meat and other articles, killed a few Indians and having a small number of men killed and wounded . . . TI1e Indians then rallied, attacked Mills and would have defeated him had not Crook been near enough to receive notice and hurry up. The firing soon stopped, but we had still a soldier and a guide killed. Several Indians killed and otl1ers captured after our arrival. We destroyed the village. We found a few horses saddles and other articles belonging to the 7th Calvary and taken from Custer's men in the massacre of last June . .. One chief, American Ho rse, died of his wounds in o ur hands ... Keep this letter to yourself; it would be insubordinate.
Very well done video. Earned my sub!
I've hunted slim buttes and the surrounding area for years. I know the area well. Pretty cool stuff in the area, including Hugh Glasses journey south after being attacked by a bear and carvings in stone that I've found to the east of the buttes.
The Battle of Slim Butts sounds like an episode of "Real Housewives"
Where is the proof or documentation that a second horse survived?
This is now well documented, but here is a nice video from the great Michael Donahue, which provides the background. fb.watch/q4M1SzZ8Ob/
I think America was still shocked over the arrogant Custer's defeat and death--- Since there appeared to be some animosity towards him from the other Generals, initially, troops followed the Sioux, trying to block them from escaping into Canada, there was no real impetus to continue chasing the Sioux once the inquest started over the 7th cavalrys demise--- Soldiers were getting homesick, and were tired of roaming the plains eating their meager rations and horses----- Many Sioux headed for Canada after the Battle, knowing the cavalry was going to take full revenge on them if they were caught-- Canada's govt reluctantly allowed Sioux members to enter Ontario, making it clear that as long as they followed the law, and didn't cause any trouble, they would be allowed to stay--- Bill Cody took a few natives that were involved in the Battle to Europe on his Wild West tour there for the winter to protect them from the US courts----
The rest were eventually rounded up and forced onto the reservations--- Never again would the plains tribes roam free across their ancestral lands------
Thomas, get your "facts" straight, Stop the GAC hate, it just show's your ignorance. :)
@@Jay_Hall Those ARE the facts clown--- I've been researching him and plains Indian culture for years---- You are just showing your complete ignorance of true history, and the facts behind the 7th cavalry's demise----
@@thomasfoss9963 Thomas, I am not even going to bother pointing out your ignorance, continue to make a fool of yourself. :)
@Thomas Foss
It’s quite obvious that you know your history. Thanks for your amazing comments.
@@Jay_Hall I agree with you, a dignified response. Anyone who reverts to insults has lost the argument in my opinion.
Yes D M really great discussion and display but perhaps make the printing on screen larger and in read or yellow as hard on mobile.... are the moving faces of various are movies really amazin....
God Bl Trinity bless US in Jesus we trust Ss Mary's Joseph pax et ius plus...
Yes if we pray enuf no WWar as Nucs too big
Comanche, Hero and warrior...
thank you for fighting for me mine and this great country sir
During the Battle with American Horse Buffalo Bills childhood friend walked up boasting about how he would show the troops how to fight indians...he was promptly shot thru the chest and died...Buffalo Chips was his nickname...American Horse was shot thru the stomach and surrendered while holding his intestines in...he died on the operating table...
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Narescie ta biała cholota dostała banki . Tylko szkoda ze tak późno to zrozumieli . A broń, mając tyle zlota , mozna nie jednego bialego ciucmoka namówić do sprzedaży i to churtowej . A ten zadufany w sobie ( tylko jaki ten baran mial stopien ) matoł custer zasłużył sobie na ten pogrom . Cieszylbym sie zeby całą tą cholote białą zamknieto kiedys w rezerwatach .
If in doubt attack. Audacity always more audacity. Except when there's thousands of Indians. Lol
red, "LOL",,hardle.....(:
McKenzie and Miles were the real Indian fiighters not Crook and Custer.
Nelson Miles… I do not have many positive things to say about him…
Than keep quiet Gallant!
They attacked peaceful Lakota who were on their own land
Strictly speaking Little Big Horn was Crow territory.
There is nothing peaceful about the Lakota. Warriors, born and bred. I deal with them daily
@@redemptivepete Anywhere the Lakota went was Lakota Country! They were the ones with the muscle. Still a lot of animosity. To the point that the Crow are not invited to the yearly Lakota Nations Invitational basketball tournament.
Great video, but please, never ever try and do an Irish accent ever again, lol!
Roger That. Someone emailed me and said they like it. I will stick with German ones in the future.
@@MilitaryHistory317 No worries,lol! My mam’s family is from Drogheda, Ireland (basically the Dublin accent), so I’m a bit of a stickler when it comes to the accent, lol!
Dude, stop doing that to thier pictures. Thats wierd and creepy.