How We Figured Out Fermentation

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    Thanks to a recent adaptation, instead of getting sick from the boozy, fermented fruits, one of our primate ancestors could digest them safely, and get more calories at the same time. This new superpower would open up a whole new nutritional landscape for us: fermented foods.
    Special thanks to Julio Lacerda ( / juliotheartist ) for the excellent fruit and ape ancestor illustrations for this episode!
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  • @nukkohuits17
    @nukkohuits17 3 года назад +2424

    It is not an alcohol problem, it is scientific paleodiet research...

    • @mzeewatk846
      @mzeewatk846 3 года назад +8

      HSPM Huits ... so long as you're not worried about running into windows.

    • @Fed.E
      @Fed.E 3 года назад +2

      good one

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann 3 года назад +11

      Your not worried about somthing that has killed 75 thousand americans since march? Yep thats the work of alchohol poisioning

    • @thunderflare59
      @thunderflare59 3 года назад +15

      The only alcohol problem I ever have is not enough of it.

    • @shadowmax889
      @shadowmax889 3 года назад +20

      @@ubichihica3364 Those agrochemicals are washed away way before the fermentation process begin, unless you are having illegal or non regulated alcohol. In fact today's alcoholic beverages are safer than before (they have no methanol for example) and all those nutrients are still inside them.
      Also, enzymes are not nutrients, enzymes are digested in the stomach and their nutrition value is only measured by the amino acids they provide. The bacteria and fungus living in the beverages are also killed by the stomach and our immune system and also most of our beneficial bacteria comes from our fellow human beings rather than food

  • @bfkick5971
    @bfkick5971 3 года назад +2662

    Out there one of our ape ancestors got wasted by eating expired mangoes.

    • @nsalegit9482
      @nsalegit9482 3 года назад +222

      The law of averages means a non insignificant portion of our population is descended from the mango monkey.

    • @napatora
      @napatora 3 года назад +21

      @Ultimum Draco animals do this all over the world

    • @1DMapler18
      @1DMapler18 3 года назад +21

      @61 Cygni the plural of moose is moose! :)

    • @princecharon
      @princecharon 3 года назад +28

      @Ultimum Draco Some native monkeys and apes on various tourist-heavy islands will steal your drinks if you're drinking at the beach and haven't finished when you go for a swim. For that matter, Drunken Monkey Kung Fu was invented by a guy watching Asian monkeys who were drunk on fermented fruit (dates, I think).

    • @zydicious
      @zydicious 3 года назад +46

      @61 Cygni Not a fermented food but dolphins have been found to hunt puffer fish because the nerve toxin the fish give off produces a high in the dolphins.

  • @vinoveritas757
    @vinoveritas757 3 года назад +2522

    “Hey, Dave, I dare you to eat this mango.”
    “Oh, gross, dude. No!”
    “I’ll give you this stick.”
    “... Okay.”

    • @k.k8791
      @k.k8791 3 года назад +23

      😂 Ok I'll take it now

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 3 года назад +126

      "Oh dang! Charlie, you gotta try this! It's like the world is warping!"

    • @briangomez1620
      @briangomez1620 3 года назад +21

      Most likely triple dog dared him

    • @shaunduffy6706
      @shaunduffy6706 3 года назад +2

      funny

    • @lemmingscanfly5
      @lemmingscanfly5 3 года назад +13

      Brian Gomez Triple-Direwolf Dare

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie 3 года назад +2586

    "so you see, I'm not alcoholic, I'm just a product of millions of years of evolution."

    • @feetslutgoonette
      @feetslutgoonette 3 года назад +3

      ain't homo sapiens just started existing half a million years ago?

    • @kziila0244
      @kziila0244 3 года назад +22

      @@feetslutgoonette
      Well, around 300,000 years, to be honest. We are really on the young side as a species.

    • @mg4361
      @mg4361 3 года назад +79

      @@feetslutgoonette Nope, we didn't just 'start existing', we evolved gradually from ancestors that had different features. You are a product of roughly 4 billion years of evolution, with an unbroken chain of relation from you, your parents, your grandparents, your grandgrandparents... all the way to the first cell that ever lived.

    • @feetslutgoonette
      @feetslutgoonette 3 года назад

      @@kziila0244 k

    • @MrDominos106
      @MrDominos106 3 года назад +1

      ill make sure to use this tomorrow lol

  • @KimberlyGreen
    @KimberlyGreen 3 года назад +5945

    Thank goodness for that ancient relative that did the equivalent of "How long has this been in the fridge? Eh, guess I'll try it anyway."

    • @guywithdacap4713
      @guywithdacap4713 3 года назад +367

      "If it doesn't kill me it will make me stronger!"

    • @kathysmith6413
      @kathysmith6413 3 года назад +68

      if it is green, blue or black, trim it first.

    • @Im-Not-a-Dog
      @Im-Not-a-Dog 3 года назад +365

      “If it doesn’t kill me, it will make me wish it did.”

    • @kidcosmo4891
      @kidcosmo4891 3 года назад +23

      Underrated comment Kim 😂 This deserves more love

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann 3 года назад +9

      I mean it has resulted in the death half that of corronavirus in the same period from alchohol poisioning.

  • @cdemr
    @cdemr 3 года назад +715

    "How We Learned to Get Drunk"

    • @Anacronian
      @Anacronian 3 года назад +32

      And then the first Russian was born...

    • @thunderflare59
      @thunderflare59 3 года назад +11

      It wasn't very hard.

    • @ChristopherRhudy
      @ChristopherRhudy 3 года назад +9

      I learned in jail... It's surprising how easy it is to make alcohol from sugar

    • @GatoBeug
      @GatoBeug 3 года назад +4

      Christopher Rhudy tell us how man pretty interesting

  • @MB-rn4zk
    @MB-rn4zk 3 года назад +575

    So humans evolved through ingesting fermented fruit, guess getting drunk is a tradition that goes back millennia.

    • @Lepstick_-
      @Lepstick_- 3 года назад +1

      yes

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel 3 года назад +16

      Getting drunk the way we do nowadays IS a tradition that comes from millennia, actually.
      Ancient greeks are known to have been huge drunkards.

    • @thijsvandervoort8261
      @thijsvandervoort8261 3 года назад +26

      If you are from Europe, like the Netherlands, Germany etc your ancestors drank beer because it was an easy way to get clean water. Beer had a lower abv back then, but still cracking open a cold one with your mates has historic significance.

    • @dggjr1759
      @dggjr1759 3 года назад +2

      DO PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS NONSENSE?????

    • @acheybones588
      @acheybones588 3 года назад +11

      @@dggjr1759 Do you have evidence to suggest anything contrary? You sound like a troll.

  • @ShapeDoppelganger
    @ShapeDoppelganger 3 года назад +101

    Fermentation, always improving things:
    According to company tradition, when the recipe was first mixed there the resulting product was so strong that it was considered inedible and the barrel was abandoned in the basement. Looking to make space in the storage area a few years later, the chemists decided to try it again, and discovered that the long fermented sauce had mellowed and was now palatable. In 1838 the first bottles of "Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce" were released to the general public.

    • @shansational1803
      @shansational1803 3 года назад +10

      The rich dude back from india who ordered the stuff loved it fresh, is the scary part. haha.

    • @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425
      @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425 11 месяцев назад

      @@shansational1803 He probably didn't know it had been fermented. Guy missed out on a lot of money.

  • @camerrill
    @camerrill 3 года назад +433

    I was once at the home of a Cherokee shaman. We were out on the porch and I saw many, many birds in a fruit tree. I thought they were just getting the ripe fruit,but then realized they were wobbly as they flew away, and some were falling to the ground. I was concerned, thinking they had been poisoned. He explained they waited past the ripe stage and ate them when they were overripe and fermenting. They were getting DRUNK. How very strange that was to me. At home we had cherries, pears, apples, blackberries, and grapes, but no fruit "bars," and no drunken animals!

    • @sophiejones7727
      @sophiejones7727 3 года назад +105

      I found a racoon passed out under our apple tree once. He was like a miniature furry frat boy, flat on his face and holding the instrument of his demise. unfortunately I didn't have a cell phone yet, so no picture :(. The squirrels who lived in the apple tree had evidently also been partying. They slept all day!

    • @swamidude2214
      @swamidude2214 3 года назад +60

      Its just that people are extremely well adapted to alcohol, so we dont get drunk from a few fermented fruits. We found a solluction though, just make beverages with way higher concentrations then naturally appear.

    • @JanSobieskiIII
      @JanSobieskiIII 3 года назад +8

      @@swamidude2214
      Lmfao: yeah.... How adapted will your offspring be if you continually consume snake venom to make yourself immune? Not. At. All.....

    • @swamidude2214
      @swamidude2214 3 года назад +15

      @@JanSobieskiIII of course not you ignorant morron, there are lots of examples were species evolved along those lines were plants, their preys or enemies became more poisionous and they evolved to be resistant to that poision as well. You thinking that you as a human can now suddenly start injecting yourself with snake venom and have offspring thats resistant to it is simply you being unable to understand the timescale on which evolution happens. You probably think a dinosaur laid an egg one day and a chicken came out of it. Its not that evolution in the real world works like pokemon you know.

    • @EmelieWaldken
      @EmelieWaldken 3 года назад +33

      Well here in Sweden it's been reported that cows and occasionally moose purposefully eat fallen and old apples and blueberries, just to get drunk. So yeah.

  • @Grasshopper99100
    @Grasshopper99100 3 года назад +244

    Man I loved this channel. It's just so refreshing to have Paleontology-based content like this. Great work guys

    • @MuscarV2
      @MuscarV2 3 года назад +1

      You loved it? But not anymore. (how is it hard to write correctly?)

    • @dorian4646
      @dorian4646 3 года назад +10

      @@MuscarV2 why are you nitpicking on such minor mistakes? I think most of us know what he meant.

    • @swamidude2214
      @swamidude2214 3 года назад +1

      @@dorian4646 yes he loved this channel but now for some reason he doesnt love it anymore. Whats hard to understand?

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 2 года назад +2

      @@dorian4646 whether you think you know or not, when something is written incorrectly, there is always a chance you misunderstood it. That's why it's important to use words correctly. They are the tools we use to communicate, and anyone should know that tools should be used correctly. One doesn't use a hammer to tighten a screw, or use a pair of pliers to sink a nail.
      That's why people point out mistakes, especially those that can be misunderstood - because we should be better at proofreading what we say, even online. It's really not that hard to understand.

  • @martinmercy2835
    @martinmercy2835 3 года назад +364

    The rest of the scientific community: We may never know if eating fermented meat is possible.
    That one scientist:...
    The rest of the scientific community: Hey dude where are you going with that dead horse?

    • @rougnashi
      @rougnashi 3 года назад +3

      😂

    • @oxybrightdark8765
      @oxybrightdark8765 3 года назад +21

      Fermented fish is regularly eaten actually.

    • @martinmercy2835
      @martinmercy2835 3 года назад +30

      @@oxybrightdark8765 Well, yeah, I'd try it. Pond horse though?

    • @oxybrightdark8765
      @oxybrightdark8765 3 года назад +8

      Martin Mercy well, I’m sure that’s inside the fish.

    • @bartholomulesphensvil2284
      @bartholomulesphensvil2284 3 года назад +14

      Actually, there are plenty of fermented meats on the market, like salami.

  • @WTFBigboss11
    @WTFBigboss11 3 года назад +53

    As a food scientist specialized in fermentation, this one is probably my favorite episode from PBS. Keep up the good work! :-)

    • @LucyFierce
      @LucyFierce Год назад +3

      As a food scientist specializing in sensory science I find this episode very indulgent (see what i did there?) :3

    • @meatgeorge
      @meatgeorge Год назад +2

      As someone who loves dry aged steak I too love this episode

    • @jarjarbinks3193
      @jarjarbinks3193 Год назад

      Do you work for Dannon? :)

    • @WTFBigboss11
      @WTFBigboss11 Год назад +1

      @@jarjarbinks3193 I rather keep such informations about myself a secret :-)

    • @axiomaddict
      @axiomaddict 3 месяца назад +1

      As someone hankering for a hard cider right now, I’ma go get one. Saludos’!

  • @Firedeath25
    @Firedeath25 3 года назад +606

    I always find it so cool how scientists can study theories like this one and combine the evidence we've found from multiple fields to form a better understanding of our history
    Edit: Also I really appreciate the details Eons gives about why we have certain theories. A lot of other places would have just mentioned when the earliest evidence of human fermentation was and leave out what led scientists to label it such.

    • @raziphaz2219
      @raziphaz2219 3 года назад +15

      become a scientist, no doubt our universe still needs some explaining

    • @kovona
      @kovona 3 года назад +7

      It helps that modern chimpanzees and bonobos are also known to seek out and consume fermented foods in the wild.

    • @mrlloyd149
      @mrlloyd149 3 года назад +3

      i know right?! it also absolutely breaks my heart to imagine how much of our hsitory could be lost forever

    • @Firedeath25
      @Firedeath25 3 года назад +3

      @@fuckyougeorgebush I'm not really sure what you mean? It was clearly stated what evidence they were basing the theories on.

    • @raziphaz2219
      @raziphaz2219 3 года назад +3

      @@fuckyougeorgebush bro thats because it’s our most concrete theory at the time

  • @zerofox641
    @zerofox641 3 года назад +1326

    Short answer:
    “Hey what’s wrong with Brian?
    “Oh he drank the salt water with that potato floating in it.”
    “Hasn’t it been sitting in the sun for weeks?”
    “Yep.”
    “Is that wheat in there too?”
    “Some mammoths trampled it.”
    “And he still drank it?”
    “Yep.”
    “Brian’s weird.”

    • @johna.4334
      @johna.4334 3 года назад +70

      Noooo. Brian is experimental.

    • @Angel_Bob_
      @Angel_Bob_ 3 года назад +8

      underrated comment

    • @PabloSanchez-qu6ib
      @PabloSanchez-qu6ib 3 года назад +75

      Hey! Who are you calling weird? Brian is my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
      grandfather!

    • @EseJandro
      @EseJandro 3 года назад +59

      Brian was a Visionary

    • @ronjayrose9706
      @ronjayrose9706 3 года назад +36

      @@PabloSanchez-qu6ib *A million years later*
      Great grandfather

  • @Ms.gnomer
    @Ms.gnomer 3 года назад +32

    My favorite part of archeology is the anthropological relationship we have with the past from things like brewing, fermenting, domestication, etc

  • @myragroenewegen5426
    @myragroenewegen5426 3 года назад +120

    I remember hearing that in the Middle Ages, alcoholic beverages were often safer than water. I wonder if fermentation played a lifesaving, critical role than we know in giving us drinkable water from fruit or stuff like that. Also, while the meat thing is probably the case, I'd imagine there was a fair bit more meat scavenging in the early human and neanderthal diet than we talk about and way more berry and fruit gathering. No food is easy, so we'd take the easier foods where we could and vessels make gathering possible. The question of when we start farming and how long we did it while still nomadic also seems key here. I think there's a tendency to conflate farming with staying rooted to one place, but this needn't imply that.

    • @boygenius538_8
      @boygenius538_8 3 года назад +20

      That's because cities in the middle ages were a lot dirtier, and water was risky. Rural areas probably didn't rely on alcohol for hydration and many civilizations didn't had clean drinking water.

    • @felonyx5123
      @felonyx5123 3 года назад +23

      @@boygenius538_8 Sailors as well. Securing safe drinking water for a ship was easy enough, but keeping it safe for a voyage lasting months wasn't. Casks of beer would stay safe, and later after distillation was widespread so would mixing in a fair helping of brandy, rum, or gin. Throw in limes for vitamin C, and you've invented grog. Then the invention of a lime cordial that would let the limes last longer without destroying the vitamin C like other preservation methods created the basis of the gimlet.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 2 года назад +8

      One thing I learned is that the alcohol they drank back then was very low concentration alcohol compared to what we drink now. That’s why they were able to drink it so often

    • @rooneye
      @rooneye Год назад

      Yeh that's true. Kids drank beer in europe for the longest time.

    • @rooneye
      @rooneye Год назад

      @@felonyx5123 They also made "Navy strength Gin" it was that strong (at least 60% proof) so that if it wet the gun powder it would still fire.

  • @grantingtherant1465
    @grantingtherant1465 3 года назад +101

    Ape ancestor: *eats rotting fruit* TURN UP YEAHHHHH

  • @GringatTheRepugnant
    @GringatTheRepugnant 3 года назад +147

    At first I was surprised to see pickles on there since they definitely aren’t fermented these days. Just put them in vinegar and... oh right. Vinegar is a product of fermentation. Modern method just separates one process from the next!

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs 3 года назад +12

      I do a lot of cauliflower and peppers on vinager. Still have them by the end of southern winter. When I run out I will be harvesting the new production.

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 3 года назад +27

      In Poland we do it both ways. We even consider them as two totally separate products.

    • @KooblyK
      @KooblyK 3 года назад +23

      There are actually two types of pickles! You’re thinking of vinegar pickles or refrigerator pickles. They are not fermented, merely preserved, which makes them easier and cheaper to mass produce, and they have a more mild flavor which appeals to a wider base. Makes em better for sandwiches too. So most people, at least in America, have never actually had a true fermented cucumber pickle. Now THOSE suckers are sour as a nine volt battery, let me tell you, and salty and just a hint of funky to boot. Once I’d had some from a farmers market, I never went back. Truly superior 👌🏼

    • @grandmundi7107
      @grandmundi7107 3 года назад +19

      Sauerkraut is actually fermented without any vinegar.

    • @patrickmccurry1563
      @patrickmccurry1563 3 года назад +9

      They're still quite different as lactic acid is not acetic acid. I like vinegar, but prefer lactic acid.

  • @seanhumphrey3167
    @seanhumphrey3167 3 года назад +75

    I wonder which ancestor first said, "Hey hold my fermented fruit..."

  • @Badbirdie
    @Badbirdie 3 года назад +54

    Laws of Nature: Did eating this kill me? No? Sweet then imma keep munchin'

  • @Ivan-cv4dl
    @Ivan-cv4dl 3 года назад +76

    "...Ethanol, also known as Alcohol. Perhaps you've heard of it?"
    Is that like a personal attack or something?

  • @FengXingFengXing
    @FengXingFengXing 3 года назад +115

    Forget human like hot/spicy food too.

    • @search895
      @search895 3 года назад +16

      @Aki Akisautumn Inalways thought people who like very hot and spicy food are a little masochists.

    • @stuckonaslide
      @stuckonaslide 3 года назад +33

      "the pain makes me feel something"
      -a human probably

    • @ockertoustesizem1234
      @ockertoustesizem1234 3 года назад +6

      @Aki Akisautumn heat receptors and pain

    • @SRWill64
      @SRWill64 3 года назад

      Yeah, no. I'll pass on the hot spicy.

    • @karsten69
      @karsten69 3 года назад +16

      Spicy food are also inhospitable to microbes, meaning that spicy foods kept longer, and our fondness for spice is a cultural legacy of that necessity.

  • @bobbyd.roberson5588
    @bobbyd.roberson5588 3 года назад +209

    No one:
    500,000 BC Human: Mmmmmm.... gotta get me some more of that six month dead at bottom of the lake horsemeat!

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs 3 года назад +33

      When dying of hunger you will eat even your brother carcas.

  • @ravenwolf7128
    @ravenwolf7128 3 года назад +7

    I love this. A toast to EONS and to Blake, who must eat a lot of healthy fermented foods--he sure ages well.
    I used to teach a class on creating wild fermented beverages--we used mostly local herbs and fruit. The wild yeasts vary but always gives a unique brew. Once we made a brew so bubbly one guys erupted to the roof when he opened the jar--the remaining liquid was complex, full of unique flavors and delicious! You can indeed taste or even just smell if things go "bad". Thanks primate ancestors, and thanks to whichever adaptation makes chocolate edible for humans (but not pets)...hey how about a video about that?

  • @proffnanners
    @proffnanners 3 года назад +35

    Eons is the best channel on RUclips. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @larryg3326
    @larryg3326 3 года назад +93

    I've seen birds get drunk on fallen, fermented berries. Do they have a similar genetic adaptation or is it a sign of mild food poisoning?

    • @liamjohnston2000
      @liamjohnston2000 3 года назад +41

      I used to have a plum tree in my backyard. Whenever I would see the squirrels walking and jumping weirdly and otherwise acting strange, I knew that they had been eating some of the plums that had fallen off and fermented.

    • @beepboop3540
      @beepboop3540 3 года назад +33

      I love it when animals get wasted

    • @harrycross9051
      @harrycross9051 3 года назад +23

      Yeah we used to have mulberry trees and the birds would get drunk on the overripe fruit and fly into the windows!

    • @jessiec668
      @jessiec668 3 года назад +31

      From what I've read, some animals can and do eat fermented fruits on a regular basis and don't seem to suffer any long-term issues (as long as they don't accidentally injure themselves while intoxicated). Other animals, however, are very susceptible to alcohol poisoning even at small doses.

    • @marcustulliuscicero5443
      @marcustulliuscicero5443 3 года назад +49

      Technically, getting drunk IS mild food poisoning.

  • @harrycross9051
    @harrycross9051 3 года назад +7

    I've both brewed beer and wine and have a degree in experimental archaeology, this stuff is super fascinating especially thinking about the impact alcohol would have had on early culture. A key one that could be expanded on is mead (honey wine) which too occurs naturally and is thought by some to be the first alcoholic beverage humans actively produced rather than just came upon like the fruit on the forest floor

  • @LydiaSandefur
    @LydiaSandefur 3 года назад +5

    I love this topic! I'm a doceni at the University of Michigan Natural History Museum so Dr. Fisher's fermented pond horse story is a common topic of conversation!!

  • @corwin32
    @corwin32 3 года назад +41

    I’m impressed at Blake’s deadpan delivery of “Perhaps you’ve heard of it”

  • @birdybathtime389
    @birdybathtime389 3 года назад +42

    Once me and my friend were eating some cherries and guys what they were a bit fermented and well we kept eating them, we called them “booze cherries” and well yeah

    • @nealjroberts4050
      @nealjroberts4050 3 года назад +7

      @@glennjpanting2081 actually "me and my friend" is a perfectly valid noun phrase. It's "my friend and me" that's problematic due to the oblique case being followed by a verb when used in a sentence.

    • @zack7122
      @zack7122 3 года назад

      well yeah that sounds nice

    • @BatCaveOz
      @BatCaveOz 3 года назад +1

      @@nealjroberts4050 Incorrect.

    • @nealjroberts4050
      @nealjroberts4050 3 года назад

      @@BatCaveOz I know you are but what am I? 😋

    • @anthonyhague6526
      @anthonyhague6526 3 года назад

      @@BatCaveOz who cares man

  • @lavantant2731
    @lavantant2731 2 года назад +3

    for sour and bitter its important to note that we also use it to determine when a berry is not yet ripe enough somewhat, and learning to not eat those things until they lose the sourness or bitterness likely led to more of the sugars getting to those ancestors

  • @tymurrell
    @tymurrell 3 года назад +4

    I feel like PBS Eons has been reading my thoughts, because I was just wondering about this very topic and, suddenly, there’s a video on it! Thanks for not letting me wonder too long!

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge 3 года назад +434

    I assure you, ancient hominids didn't eat fermented fruit for the calories.

    • @taylorhillard4868
      @taylorhillard4868 3 года назад +147

      I mean...they probably ate everything for the calories. They were still far from the comforts of modern food security. Back then if u found food, u ate it, lol.

    • @Markle2k
      @Markle2k 3 года назад +68

      getting drunk on the forest floor is a good way to get eaten yourself

    • @DewwaKakkar
      @DewwaKakkar 3 года назад +41

      @@taylorhillard4868 true, the agrarian revolution hadn't begun until then. If they found food, they ate it.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 3 года назад +26

      It depends on how fermented it was. Getting drunk on the forest floor is a great way to attract predators. If it smelled too strongly fermented, they likely collected it and ate it later once they were safely surrounded by their group for the night.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 3 года назад +9

      Also ppl became sedentary before they adopted agriculture, so it's not like they didn't have housing and storehouses prior to domestication of plants animals (with the exception of dogs)

  • @yourstruly4817
    @yourstruly4817 3 года назад +160

    To alcohol! The cause of and the solution to all life's problems.

    • @acamelwholikescoke4641
      @acamelwholikescoke4641 3 года назад +3

      Lmao

    • @potatos_4_free
      @potatos_4_free 3 года назад +12

      Some might disagree. To them I say "Scientifically speaking, alcohol is a solution."

    • @Alusnovalotus
      @Alusnovalotus 3 года назад +7

      “The cause of, and solution to,”

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs 3 года назад +14

      Wise words Homer Simpson, wise words.

    • @Loreman72
      @Loreman72 3 года назад +6

      @@Argentvs mmmm, beer....

  • @calebenloe36
    @calebenloe36 3 года назад +24

    Dude 13k years ago: "Bro look what I just did!"
    Other broski: *Takes sip*
    "BROOOOO this is divine!!!!!!!"
    All humans: *Declares spot holy land from now on*

    • @renderlessgames
      @renderlessgames 3 года назад +1

      Lmao too bad ot was lost in translation. Underrated

  • @briganja
    @briganja 3 года назад +4

    It’s cool to know that fermented foods and the umami flavor is so widespread among other land mammals. Thanks for the great video!

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPH 3 года назад +18

    The greatest channel on RUclips! Thank you!
    I'm curious about ADH4 expression among humans. Alcohol metabolism was once theoried to explain why some cultures used tea instead of beer for more hydration. I wonder if that holds up :)

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 3 года назад +113

    6:18 So hungry you can eat a horse?
    oh wait

    • @Argentvs
      @Argentvs 3 года назад +2

      Mortadela is horse meat, at least the original one, cheap mortadela is faked using waste parts of meat industry, just like hot dogs (nails, hairs, instestines, bad state meat, tendons, cartilage, cow serum, "flavor" and some more chemicals).

    • @takenname8053
      @takenname8053 3 года назад +2

      @@Argentvs Was just making a joke but thanks for the info

    • @Dinitroflurbenzol
      @Dinitroflurbenzol 3 года назад +2

      @@takenname8053 an info, which is false, by the way

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 2 года назад

      @@Argentvs no, there are no nails, fur/hair, or bad meat used in hot dogs. That is just an urban myth, probably started by the butcher industry to sell more expensive meats, LOL!

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 2 года назад +1

      @@takenname8053 yeah, most of that "info" is made up... baloney.
      Had to do the pun. But seriously, the "info" is nonsense.

  • @CJFreeza
    @CJFreeza 3 года назад +8

    Absolutely awesome post. Arguably one of the catalysts for our evolution. Even to go so far as to say that the "plain of jars" would be a great starting place for Archeology to look at for this topic specifically. I would debate from a chefs perspective, accidental mistakes make some of the best foods, and that certain foods require time to develope in both taste and consistency so making alcohol would have required a lot more time but much less food resources. An alternative to fresh when you can't preserve things in fridges.

  • @ThirtykNinetyfour94
    @ThirtykNinetyfour94 3 года назад +57

    So our food history boils down to a long series of "hey I dare you to eat that"?

    • @normamcphee8956
      @normamcphee8956 Год назад +3

      Probably also a lot of, "I'm so hungry right now that I'd even eat that."

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 4 месяца назад

      @@normamcphee8956 Probably more true, but unfortunately quite a bit _less_ funny.

  • @val9847
    @val9847 3 года назад +287

    As someone who makes their own mead I never clicked faster

    • @kathysmith6413
      @kathysmith6413 3 года назад

      ever try frozen banana mead? i had an acquaintance who made it. OMG sippin' whiskey only but mmmmmmm good.

    • @JiveDadson
      @JiveDadson 3 года назад +10

      Decades ago, I had friends who made mead. They insisted that it was pronounced "med". Theirs tasted like a fine white wine, very dry. They also aged their meat. My girl friend refused to eat it after seeing it hanging in the shed. Her loss.

    • @missbackwoods
      @missbackwoods 3 года назад +3

      Yep. Same hear my 1st year making it

    • @fishsohorny
      @fishsohorny 3 года назад +4

      I've got a nice mixed berry melomel in a carboy for secondary now! Searching around for a good source to get 15lbs of honey and get a nice Yule mead going. With apples, cinnamon, nutmeg and cloves.

    • @lip4973
      @lip4973 3 года назад +2

      "(Insert whatever) never clicked faster"
      Has become the cringiest trendy comment format.

  • @bloodandempire
    @bloodandempire 3 года назад +14

    It’s so strange to me that we even have the ability to process ethanol. Awesome video! Thanks to the Eons team and their patrons ♥️

  • @HoffaFett
    @HoffaFett 3 года назад +6

    I love Blake's videos. He brings so much character to them!

  • @BrittBrattBossLady
    @BrittBrattBossLady 2 года назад

    Always good being here. This one was a particular gem. Thank you.

  • @easternlights3155
    @easternlights3155 3 года назад +216

    Help, I am being distracted from my education by how sharp he looks in that shirt!

    • @coryobrien8154
      @coryobrien8154 3 года назад +2

      Oh please

    • @hj6507
      @hj6507 3 года назад +18

      No but for real, quarantine did him well 🔥😝

    • @bloodandempire
      @bloodandempire 3 года назад +13

      He looks great! Meanwhile, I gained like 665764 pounds in quarantine 😭😭😭

    • @shandya
      @shandya 3 года назад +7

      This is literally one of the reasons I keep watching this channel.

    • @semaj_5022
      @semaj_5022 3 года назад +14

      He's been steadily making me question my sexuality more and more each week for months now.

  • @stephenheggeman510
    @stephenheggeman510 3 года назад +10

    "...I am so hungry right now..." I love this channel.

  • @martinbondesson
    @martinbondesson 3 года назад

    Thank goodness for this channel! I love it so much

  • @alejandrocm26
    @alejandrocm26 Год назад

    I absolutely love this channel. Learn so much every time I watch a video. Greetings from Guatemala.

  • @briangarrow448
    @briangarrow448 3 года назад +4

    Ironically enough, my son and I have just started brewing beer at home during this pandemic. We live on a farm in a rural area and a neighbor that brewed beer just passed away. His widow gave us his home brewing supplies and now we have another hobby to enjoy.
    Slainte!

  • @mikemathews9277
    @mikemathews9277 3 года назад +68

    Before the beer bottles we had fermented Citrus how many oranges does it take to get a Buzz???

    • @Ayyke
      @Ayyke 3 года назад +20

      Get drunk on orange juice, call it experimental archeology. New lockdown challenge?

    • @adrianjohnson7295
      @adrianjohnson7295 3 года назад +5

      Quite literally lockdown challenge as in when I was in hmp ranby we used to get a 5l wash up liquid bottle from the kitchen half a bag of sugar few slices of brown bread a smidge of marmite and a lot of oranges. Trick is to vent it periodically after head counts an that cuz it stinks and gets the whole place turned over if the screws get a wiff....

    • @WinkLinkletter
      @WinkLinkletter 3 года назад

      @@adrianjohnson7295 Wow, Marmite hooch! We used "honey buns" pastry for our yeasts.

    • @adrianjohnson7295
      @adrianjohnson7295 3 года назад

      @@WinkLinkletter what the jamacain bun? gotta love aramark aint ya? they must KNOW theyre sellin all the bits cuz soon as one goes off the list a different product comes up that does the same thing?! PRISON FOR PROFIT FTW!

    • @ns88ster
      @ns88ster 3 года назад +2

      Humanity has purposely bred, and cross pollinated, and genetically engineered fruits to make them sweeter and more alcoholic for consumption. All for a buzz.

  • @Popclone
    @Popclone 3 года назад +1

    One of the best episodes I’ve ever seen. Thx guys.

  • @VivRT96
    @VivRT96 3 года назад +2

    That was a super interesting episode ! Thank you so much for your work, I really love each one of your videos :D

  • @Gearlox
    @Gearlox 3 года назад +13

    Everytime I watch one of these episodes I just go "Whoa."

  • @TheExplorder
    @TheExplorder 3 года назад +9

    I've not seen this presentator jet before, but, I like his style of telling a story.

  • @cashenjoe1
    @cashenjoe1 3 года назад +1

    Always wanted to see a video about this. Thank you!

  • @SuperManning11
    @SuperManning11 3 года назад +1

    What a fascinating story! I love these Eons vids and this is an especially great one. Thanks for this fantastic channel!

  • @mrfluffybeehive
    @mrfluffybeehive 3 года назад +6

    Props to the guy who took there time to add the fly on the fruit

  • @AbrahamSamma
    @AbrahamSamma 3 года назад +328

    Cheesy and sour horse meat... I'll stick to BBQ burgers.

    • @Jossandoval
      @Jossandoval 3 года назад +44

      With cheese and pickles!

    • @bernardfinucane2061
      @bernardfinucane2061 3 года назад +26

      Sauerbraten, which is sour horse meat, it a favorite dish in the Rhineland. I guess beef is mostly used these days.

    • @mogyesz9
      @mogyesz9 3 года назад +10

      You are missing out, horse meat is really tasty

    • @jcherry875
      @jcherry875 3 года назад +10

      As a vegetarian and horse girl I absolutely hate the thought of eating horse meat BUT horsemeat isn't produced like cowmeat and stuff like that and they only get medication when needed (where i live at least because they are kept as pets or for sports). So it's actually quite healthy in comparison.

    • @sp00n
      @sp00n 3 года назад +8

      ​@@bernardfinucane2061 Sauerbraten most of the time is made with beef, horse meat is actually pretty rare. Although the traditional Rheinländer Sauerbraten seems to have used horse meat, yes. Old horses that is, which is why they marinated the meat in vinegar or wine and had to wait a couple of days for the meat to become more soft.

  • @Yungfucc666
    @Yungfucc666 3 года назад

    I've literally been thinking about this for my entire life. Thank you for this video

  • @roberthofmann8403
    @roberthofmann8403 2 года назад

    Thanks, Steve, for your support.

  • @zenebean
    @zenebean 3 года назад +9

    When you realize humans got the ability to get drunk from the evolutionary lottery

    • @e1357
      @e1357 3 года назад +3

      Nope, any animal can get drunk, if anything we are the least susceptible and recover faster since we metabolize it quicker, but wee are far from the only animals who get drunk, squirrels and birds seek out fermenting fruits for a buzz and get absolutely wasted, however this also leaves em more susceptible to predation

  • @damienmcgonnell6032
    @damienmcgonnell6032 3 года назад +7

    Do a video on Hummingbirds!

  • @OliveDr0ps
    @OliveDr0ps 3 года назад +2

    I’m glad as an adult I get to continue learning from PBS

  • @Sinnick11
    @Sinnick11 3 года назад +2

    This commentator is my favorite on the channel. He's like the ideal guest you could invite for dinner and just talk about stuff with

  • @spongebobsucks12
    @spongebobsucks12 3 года назад +8

    "perhaps you heard of it"
    Oh please, I'm drinking cogniac as we spreak

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel 3 года назад +2

      Man of culture, I see.
      Or, given the topic of fermented stuff, should I say "man of vulture"?

  • @jiffyb333
    @jiffyb333 3 года назад +4

    Really fascinating stuff!

  • @jeromeriedl
    @jeromeriedl 3 года назад

    Really worked from the ground up on this one. I think an episode 2 would be awesome

  • @nijinoshita3301
    @nijinoshita3301 3 года назад +1

    that is so interesting! for some reason I never expected fermented food to be that early in our diet... though now that you mention it it does make sense!

  • @Peter-.H
    @Peter-.H 3 года назад +9

    Ok, this is lots of information
    to digest. I feel fermented now! 🥴

  • @onlytheabe
    @onlytheabe 3 года назад +13

    6:16 How hungry are you? 🤣

  • @nchia
    @nchia 3 года назад +2

    So refreshing to watch a PBS Eons video not sandwiched between any Mass Extinction Events.

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks9366 2 года назад

    That picture of the fruit on the forest floor is legit some beautiful artwork

  • @nottheborg836
    @nottheborg836 3 года назад +17

    of course the one episode I'm early to for once is the episode about cheese & beer

  • @downsidebrian
    @downsidebrian 3 года назад +4

    I've been getting into some small homebrewing,so this is really good timing. Did you know you can use fermentation to make your own soda?

  • @thangri-la
    @thangri-la 2 года назад +1

    Vietnam's fermented dish "nem chua" was pictured. It was recently discovered that there was a natural antibiotic plantacyclin associated with this process that suppressed some other food pathogens like listeria or clostridium. Having tasted many fermented food items including hakarl, i have to say that nem chua is a delicious introduction to fermented meat. Something an absolute beginner can try!

  • @Guydude777
    @Guydude777 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this educational experience.

  • @quirkyk2033
    @quirkyk2033 3 года назад +4

    “Alcohol, perhaps you’ve heard of it? “ / dead horse meat... “mmm, I’m so hungry right now” 😂

  • @christinaify
    @christinaify 3 года назад +3

    I've actually wondered about this! Like how does one look at rotten fruit juice and go "Yup." It's not like alcohol *tastes* very nice on its own before you acquire it.

    • @tripleblast003
      @tripleblast003 3 года назад +2

      Maybe it's due to competition? "Rotten" fruit has less competition from another animals, so it might be benefiicial if we can safely digest "rotten" fruit, for those extra calories and ensure our survival.

    • @christinaify
      @christinaify 3 года назад +1

      @@tripleblast003 huh...that's a really good point. Bugs and parasites would be the only competition.

    • @ZombieBarioth
      @ZombieBarioth 3 года назад +1

      Alcohol on it's own no, but fermented fruit would have a lot of natural sugar so it would still be fairly sweet.
      Our ancestors also.probably started off sampling mildly fermented fruit, so there wasn't as much alcohol content.

  • @Articulate99
    @Articulate99 2 года назад +1

    Always informative, thank you.

  • @christosvoskresye
    @christosvoskresye 3 года назад +1

    Worth way more than the one up vote I was able to give.

  • @DISTurbedwaffle918
    @DISTurbedwaffle918 3 года назад +63

    TL;DR - Consuming alcohol is directly correlating with intelligence.

    • @interlace84
      @interlace84 3 года назад +2

      And Neanderthal genes!

    • @AViewCado69420
      @AViewCado69420 3 года назад +4

      So you're saying my neighbor might be Einstein?

    • @boygenius538_8
      @boygenius538_8 3 года назад

      No

    • @DISTurbedwaffle918
      @DISTurbedwaffle918 3 года назад

      @@boygenius538_8 begone, East Asian stock, the world belongs to people who can digest alcohol and dairy properly.

    • @boygenius538_8
      @boygenius538_8 3 года назад +1

      DISTurbedwaffle918 I’m not East Asian

  • @JiveDadson
    @JiveDadson 3 года назад +18

    How about some love for sauerkraut? What kind of pale existence would life be without Reuben sandwiches and krautdogs?

    • @deathnote939393
      @deathnote939393 3 года назад

      Sauerkraut is awful

    • @sp00n
      @sp00n 3 года назад

      Krautdogs... stop raping our Sauerkraut! 😂

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 2 года назад

      Oh, I love sauerkraut! My mom would make a sauerkraut that I would just sit and eat right out of the jar!

  • @Galvaxatron
    @Galvaxatron 3 года назад

    THIS CHANNEL NEVER STOPS GIVING

  • @andreafranceschini3889
    @andreafranceschini3889 3 года назад +1

    This is one of the most interesting video you published, and you guys sure make very interesting stuff👌

  • @yazansakran3326
    @yazansakran3326 3 года назад +3

    Neanderthals: Use spears to get meat.
    Modern humans: May I get an A10 Warthog strafe please?

  • @nicks1451
    @nicks1451 3 года назад +6

    "To alcohol! The cause of and solution to all of life's problems!"

  • @alesdossantos4224
    @alesdossantos4224 3 года назад

    Amazing! When I read the title of the video, I could never imagine it would be so interesting!

  • @gregcaspn
    @gregcaspn 3 года назад

    Your the food guy I watch on u-tube ! Just made the connection , love your food travels !!

  • @Bakanga
    @Bakanga 3 года назад +4

    *Rip to my ancestors*

  • @robertwhan8499
    @robertwhan8499 3 года назад +5

    How many thought this was going to be about our ancestor making booze for the first time?

  • @richardengelhardt582
    @richardengelhardt582 Год назад +1

    I am a professor of Palaeolithic archaeology. Other aspects of the development of fermentation technology by our ancestors that may be of interest to your audience include: (a) Use of fermented plant products to dye cloth (think indigo.) This inhibited the growth of bacteria and molds on clothing, bedding, etc. (b) The incorporation of a stage of fermentation in the process of embalming dead bodies -- a process very well documented from ancient Egypt to historic Cambodia and Siam. The use of fermentation preserved the essence of life in perpetuity -- or at least until it was consumed by fire and transformed into air. There are other examples as well, including so-called "pickling" as part of the process to alloy metals. Fermentation was/is such an important technology central to many material production processes of SEAsian cultures that the famous American-Indonesian anthroplogist, Marie Jeanne Adams, has labelled fermentation as THE signature technological style of the SEAsian cultural complex.

  • @steveupson7183
    @steveupson7183 3 года назад +1

    The oldest known written reference to fermentation is the Sumerian Cuneiform ‘Ode to Ninkasi’. Ninkasi was the Sumerian goddess of fermentation and beer. The ode is basically a recipe for making beer, and is probably the written representation of a chant or song that was employed in kitchens to help remember the steps for making beer, so will probably have much earlier origins than the development of Cuneiform (c 3200 bce)

  • @melskunk
    @melskunk 3 года назад +8

    May I recommend moyasimon, an anime and manga explicitly about fermentation and diet through cute magical reality where we get to meet the microbes that cause it

    • @potatopertato
      @potatopertato 3 года назад

      Well thanks for that info

    • @charlottem.1477
      @charlottem.1477 3 года назад

      melskunk Really?! Thank you!!

    • @viridiantheforest1037
      @viridiantheforest1037 3 года назад

      Yeah the instant they mentioned the horse I thought of Professor Itsuki!

    • @Sliverbane
      @Sliverbane 3 года назад

      Clicks first episode of Moyashinmon on Crunchy Roll. -monitor explodes with cuteness-

  • @cole9799
    @cole9799 3 года назад

    Learned a couple things tonight. thanks!

  • @asafcassuto9152
    @asafcassuto9152 3 года назад

    Thank you for adding subtitles

  • @hiimryan2388
    @hiimryan2388 3 года назад +4

    Thank you eon, now I can consume alcohol without my parents knowing by making wine myself.

    • @paulesterline5714
      @paulesterline5714 3 года назад +3

      You can buy all the ingredients and equipment you need to make beer and wine. Even under age. Perfectly legal. Is it a great idea to do so under age? Sorry but it is a $hit idea, but I like the way you think!

    • @pendolinofan643
      @pendolinofan643 3 года назад

      No wait until your an adult 21 or 18

  • @hollyodii5969
    @hollyodii5969 3 года назад +33

    Fermented cheesey dead lake horse. Mmmmmm, yuck.

    • @vguyver2
      @vguyver2 3 года назад +4

      Actually, I'm kinda curious how it would taste.

    • @hollyodii5969
      @hollyodii5969 3 года назад +3

      V Guyver okay, you first!

    • @lancheloth
      @lancheloth 3 года назад

      Do you think the smell wouldn't kill you first?

    • @fredtuturo1793
      @fredtuturo1793 3 года назад +1

      @@lancheloth try the danish fermented fish in a can and tell us if you survive the smell...

    • @lancheloth
      @lancheloth 3 года назад +1

      @@fredtuturo1793 the whole neighborhood die hahaha.. But again in my country there is a lot of food that have very strong scent.. Like durian, ikan asin (dried salted fish).. Belacan (Fermented shrimp paste)...

  • @thunderibiscuitz7893
    @thunderibiscuitz7893 2 года назад +2

    A great thanks to fermentation for allowing the creation of cheese, one of my favorite foods 🙏🙏❤

  • @quartz6902
    @quartz6902 3 года назад

    HOW COME I DIDNT KNOW THIS CHANNEL EXISTED. It’s so good

  • @chironOwlglass
    @chironOwlglass 3 года назад +5

    For people who have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, fermented foods are STILL ....dicey!

    • @chironOwlglass
      @chironOwlglass 3 года назад +1

      I am so allergic to corn that I will instantly vomit any alcohol created from it! Literally the second it hits my stomach.