RIP lala escargot for being a real one, a good boss, a small business owner, a friend to the drunk reporter and a responsible adult. Should’ve been a arcana fr.
lala should've been the devil arcana. ren has to find information on kaneshiro, and so turns to some seedy places around shinjuku. he ends up at lala's bar and talks with her about kaneshiro, and she offers him a part time job there similar to iwai, and he learns from her about confidence and the night life. shit wouldve been peak but instead we need pedo #4
People always say "sexy technique barely works" like bro, have you tried being more lucky? Sexy technique triggers so often for me it's frankly annoying, like 70% of the time. Like what is the actual rate it's supposed to trigger.
Yeah, I have to agree it's useful, it stopped enemies on their tracks quite a few times for me. Normally you want to finish them in one turn, but SP should be preserved somewhat so you can clear a palace in a single day. Sexy Technique proves useful for that purpose, because sometimes you just have to let enemies get a turn in order to avoid spending SP on big attacks.
I wouldn't exactly call Sun among the worst, myself. I would probably put him a few places lower than 18. His confidant skills allows me to extort ridiculous amounts of money from Shadows. We are talking about an amount of money that surpasses that of the treasure demons. I usually get like 30k or even 40k per begging shadow from the Pyramid Palace. Very useful, as expenses start to pile up when Fortune is unlocked. I agree with Ohya being the worst. None of her skills are actually that useful. Palace security is rarely a problem, if at all. And Devil personas aren't that impressive most of the time.
I need to replay Persona 5 Royal lol. I originally played it on Switch but got it on PS5 after I got one but it's been on my backlog since I've played it before.
Tbh I feel you overplaced Takemi just because I feel like her abilities aren't that really good when you have Morgana in the party just because Proud Presence is really good especially earlier in the game and that's why I don't really see use for Takemi's abilities even her SP Restoration accessories wasn't that that "GOOD" like some may claim, I think you could do well without it you just gotta be cautious about how you spent your SP in Palaces Also I think Hifumi's party switch ability is good and all but there's no way you could use it properly unless you have Mishima maxed out because back up members tend to be underleveled...BUT I'm a bit biased because it let me switch out characters in their Awakening battle which is AMAZING and got a few laughs out of it.
That’s wild I didn’t even put her that high for the exact reasoning you stated. I never found her wares useful. I never really used Hifumi’s stuff in Royal cause I never really had a time where I needed to swap party members.
@@KDThreeSixty yeah but for me she's C tier, tbh I only rank her to get the arcana boost for my baby boy Nue since he's the very first Persona who learns "Curse Boost" and I truly love these skills and usually put them for Arsène but eh you could use Ryuji's insta kill and just Grind. And I do feel the same about hifumi but I still use it anyway just to have some fun and troll on Haru :v
To be fair though, SP Adhesive 3 on Morgana is pretty helpful. I rarely ever come across situations where he doesn't have enough SP to use a healing skill with SP Adhesive 3 on him even in late-game, and if it ever does get too low, that's why I absolutely stack up on master coffees and curry. It's not fool-proof by any means, but it seriously helps for long drawn-out battles. Granted, if you stack up on SP restoratives, you might not even need the adhesive at all, it kinda just depends on how you play the game. I tend to play it safe by using the adhesive because I know that at some point, I will forget to make more coffees and curry, and it will absolutely screw me over, especially on Merciless difficulty
I remember playing base p5 and thinking SP Adhesive 3 was the most op item in the game (and lowkey it was), playing royal now and having access to the camera strap just made it completely useless. Sad really.
minimum lvl 7 bc SP adhesive three is almost mandatory to A) one day palaces and B) last through late game endurance tests. and the discount is mandatory for not dying of starvation either in game from spending all your money on SP adhesives or IRL from grinding.
The time management confidants are without a doubt the most valuable, because in the middle and late game your phantom thieves can take down anything, but the confidant grind remains, and the abilities that help you save time never lose their value. Also, I 100% agree that Chihaya is the best non-phantom thief girl, and her 100K requirement isn't even that bad because when by the time I start her confidant I'm right out of Kaneshiro's bank and have the money to spare. Too bad my heart already belongs to Haru... Tier S: Chihaya Mifune, Sadayo Kawakami Tier A: Velvet Room Twins, Ryuji Sakamoto, Hifumi Togo, Yuuki Mishima, Toranosuke Yoshida Tier B: Futaba Sakura, Ann Takamaki, Yusuke Kitagawa, Makoto Niijima, Haru Okumura, Takoto Maruki Tier C: Kasumi Yoshizawa, Goro Akechi, Shinya Oda, Tae Takemi, Munehisa Iwai, Sojiro Sakura Tier D: Ichiko Ohya
My friend was playing persona 5 royal for the first time a while back. He ignored Ohya entirely because she was the Devil arcana. Smartest move he made all game. Lol Also, he really took a liking to yoshida or as he liked to call him, Charles.
I don't know why everyone hypes up Mishima so much. The exp bonus he gives is +10% from rank 7 onwards. That absolutely pales in comparison to accessories, that can give up to +50% and jose, who can give +100%. His only useful skill is his first one, which is already more than enough to not have any wildly underleveled teammates. And his last one is useful only in edge cases.
Cause its just another bonus, its easy to achive because basically you need to just go to memento. And if you wanna do it correctly after all you want to have everyone maxed. So as he is giving you exp for nothing you want to get him. And you want to max every bonus exp if you farm it. So he is just neeeded
@@Hazard598 I think getting 5 stamps in mementos is easier than spending 6 timeslots with mishima and completing like 4 mementos requests from him. In both cases, you get the same results, but the stamps can keep stacking. Also one more thing, switching to merciless increases exp 1.2x, which is also a lot better than mishima, while not making the game any harder. And before you say that I can just do all of those, yes and I do them. I just simply think Mishima is completely overhyped for the miniscule bonus he gives.
Yoshida is underrated here. Fundraising alone being such an early perk to get and synergising so well with the special treatment perk from the twins. You're also the first person I've seen who LIKES Ohya
@@quantm3649 I think he is amazing, but the new stuff just overshadows it. Instant kill farming is just too good. When it comes to Ohya, her personality is amazing. I just think people hate her because of how she looks compared to the other female characters
To be fair, Igor's confidant is just you-know-who telling you, that you're close to the truth and then you get a few more persona slots and on rank 10 there's a plot twist and an explanation why Igor sounded so different from his Persona 3 and 4 appearances. For me personally Sae at least had more personality than Igor and actually was a part of the plot and Morgana's whole story arc throughout the game actually was just really good, so it's Igor > Sae > Morgana for me.
My best to worst characters list of Persona 5: 1. Ryuji Sokomoto (Persona: Captain Kidd) 2. Kasumi/ Sumire Yoshizawa 3. Makoto Niijima (Persona: Johanna) 4. Yuuki Mishima (The Phan-Site Manager) 5. Hiifumi Togo ( The Shogi Queen) 6 Futaba Sakura (AKA Alibaba) 7. Yusuke Kitagawa (Persona: Goemon) 8. Ann Takamaki (Persona: Carmen) 9. Chihaya 10. Justine Twins/ Lavenza 11. Sadayo Kawamaki 12. Goro Akechi (Persona: Robin Hood/Loki) 13. Haru Okumura (Persona: Milady) 14. Dr. Maruki 15. Sojiro Sakura (Coffee Man/ Futaba's Caregiver; Retired Detective of Japanese Police after Wakaba Ishikki's death) 16. Munehisa Iwai (Pawn Shop business owner who occasionally condoned some shady business with the Japanese underground.) 17. Shinya Oda (Video Game Champion) 18. Tae Takemi (Punk Drug Store Clinique) 19. No Good Taro (Politician who had three strikes in his record) 20. Ichiko Ohya (News Reporter who often got up to no good and drank too much booze in her business.)
Have you played the game at all ? How the f yoshitzawa ranked higher than kawakami and chihaya. All yoshitzawa did was allow u to hook enemy and that's it. Meanwhile, other confidants gave u more time to spend and make your persona powerful enough to fight ng+ boss. Without both of them, you will never beat ng+ boss on merciless even if you have izanagi no okami.
Sojiro over takemi for Sp gain? Every interesting. Nah but being a ass aside, I disagree with alot of these but it’s kinda interesting hearing your views on this.
Can we also talk about how Sojiro gives kindness from hanging out with him...but you need max kindness to get past rank 6? Like Im already max this is useless.... My guess was that you didnt need Max at first but they later changed it to max needed for...stupid reasons.
Attis weak? Are you sure? I'm not an experienced SMT player, but in terms of general rpg design, having all party buffs set up in a single turn looks like a lot, and the only other way to do it comes in the final arc. Sure, you can pass his trait onto something else, but you still need to get it. Having Thermopylae at will saves a lot of buff turns. Idk, maybe experienced players can clean even bosses in 3 turns with auto-kaja skills, but it looks pretty good to me.
Taro is actually D tier cause one the twins do what he does but easier, two Momentos exists where now you can increase your money and level 3 times as fast and because you can rush enemies to insta kill negotiations aren’t required Sexy Technique rarely works mainly because most enemies from the 2nd to 5th palaces are beasts and not male humanoid characters male creatures are also affected but it mainly works when certain requirements are fulfilled. 1. Is that the enemy can’t attack more than one member especially Ann herself, and two the attack needs to be a physical attack and not special skill.
wtf are you talking about??? attis has vitality of the tree which literally lets you use a full party heat riser for only 30 SP??? It literally makes Hyakka whatever worthless
Listen... Ichiho Ohya's friend had it rough. As bad as this one is I would honestly still be friends with her just to help them both... (Also Futaba and ren are like my favourite duo so -anyway at least is not Ken Amada or something worse so...- regardless of how people see this I find them cute. If you don't agree I understand. I mean some people see her more like a kid [or more like a little sister] even though they are like one or two years apart and fortunately is not Oreimo. So... For me as long as they wait and Also as long as they tell Sojiro and keep it correct in a legal I'm good with that)
@@KDThreeSixtyabsolutely, free sp recovery items, some of the best confidant writing, and she's a cool character who I think fits honey best as a love interest
I'm sorry what SP item invalidate Takemi? Its free SP per turn. I guess its because I didn't explore the DLC pack enough for busted items I dunno but SP saves has always been a staple of Persona. And you effectively drive costs down by simply having SP3s equipped. Are there strong SP items? Yes. You can easily make it through the game without the Adhesive but that doesn't invalidate that how insanely good those adhesives are. That said she's decent in B tier I do think Shinya still belongs in A tier even if at the very bottom. Down Shot is that good and I guess people hate Bullet Bail but negging enemy health as an ambush is stupid good. Putting Iwai as high as you did is just. Gun Customization is not useful. You can neg any encounter without Iwai and I'm sure there's some circumstances where its awesome but honestly I just had next to no interest which is a shame No lie rating the party member confidant line who isn't Oracle is a waste of time. None of their abilities are that good with many of them being same tactics skills like distrupting enemy actions, follow up attacks, Harisen, and Protect. I think you're smoking though. Kawakami should remain in S. Just...by the logic of how Chihaya works Kawakami is right behind it and Kawakami because you can start it early the only thing that hurts it is waiting for the the final higher tier Mementos mission to finish her line. Even so. And I get it with Ryuji. I think its good...once you've done anything. You shouldn't even need to grind even on the hardest mode in this game. Atlus and SMT games in general always gives me a general rule. Play normally then in the finale go crazy. Once I was in the 2nd semester I could go nuts with Insta-kill getting persona and material I need to get my alarms for better rewards and EXP . It just simply made getting stuff trival. In vanilla for Plat during my 2nd play through I got Instakill early because end games items help and you keep your Stats. Instakill just invaldiated the rest of the game and I had to turn it off or just not have Ryuji in the party because I ALWAYS approach Shadows via ambush and I can think of what reason I would ever do the opposite. I think Ryuji is the one that is a strong A while Kawakami is right next to Chihaya who I too admit is the best. Her fortunes are super early and they help boost what you need when you need it.
Goro akechi's confidant is only useful cause of jazz and the affinity chance never really triggered for me, it was makoto ability's shadow factorization always triggered. For that reason, i didn't even bother akechi confidant after rank 4 cause it wasted of time and didn't like him. If you used him on final boss on 3rd sem, you will also know what i mean.
Sleuthing Instinct/Mastery only works on one enemy and doesn't activate during boss fights... On top of that, once the compendium is complete, you'll know all of their affinities so it's useless And you have to max out his confidant as the persona you unlock from doing so is Metatron who is required for a fusion chain that results in Ren's ultimate persona Satanael in NG+ Long story short, Satanael is the only reason to bother maxing out the Justice confidant and the Jazz Club is the only reason to bother with him at all
@@infernape2010 agreed bro, I only max him out first playthrough to get metatron and then skip him NG+ after reached rank 4 lol 😂 I just didn't like him and I was still able to play 3rd sem.
@@Terry-qr9mv Yeah, Maruki is the only confidant required to access the 3rd semester and to be completely honest he's utterly useless in the 2 palaces he's available for being a broke man's version of Naoto in the 6th palace (He's not even good enough to be a poor man's version) and the final palace he's even worse as his strongest attack Laevateinn is a worse version of God's Hand because it has a 0% crit chance
RIP lala escargot for being a real one, a good boss, a small business owner, a friend to the drunk reporter and a responsible adult. Should’ve been a arcana fr.
lala should've been the devil arcana.
ren has to find information on kaneshiro, and so turns to some seedy places around shinjuku. he ends up at lala's bar and talks with her about kaneshiro, and she offers him a part time job there similar to iwai, and he learns from her about confidence and the night life.
shit wouldve been peak but instead we need pedo #4
I haven't watched the video yet but if Ohya's the bottom spot I'm going to eat tree bark
GOD DAMNIT
Okay nvm it's abilities so it isn't that basic
@@mropti6350 I have her way higher in my personality tier list. She’s great
@@KDThreeSixty Sick, based
Dude she sucks
People always say "sexy technique barely works" like bro, have you tried being more lucky? Sexy technique triggers so often for me it's frankly annoying, like 70% of the time. Like what is the actual rate it's supposed to trigger.
Nah I’ll try
*Proceeds to keep getting screwed with RNG cuz RNG don't like us
it works for me a lot
Yeah, I have to agree it's useful, it stopped enemies on their tracks quite a few times for me.
Normally you want to finish them in one turn, but SP should be preserved somewhat so you can clear a palace in a single day. Sexy Technique proves useful for that purpose, because sometimes you just have to let enemies get a turn in order to avoid spending SP on big attacks.
Wait are hou telling me that sexy technique is by chance and not guaranteed on the first attack???? God my Ann is busted then
Than kyou so much for this video i am playing the game right now before it leaves xbox :( and this helped alot
I’m glad I could help
I wouldn't exactly call Sun among the worst, myself. I would probably put him a few places lower than 18.
His confidant skills allows me to extort ridiculous amounts of money from Shadows. We are talking about an amount of money that surpasses that of the treasure demons. I usually get like 30k or even 40k per begging shadow from the Pyramid Palace. Very useful, as expenses start to pile up when Fortune is unlocked.
I agree with Ohya being the worst. None of her skills are actually that useful. Palace security is rarely a problem, if at all. And Devil personas aren't that impressive most of the time.
Yeah none of the perks besides Ohya's are really bad at all
I need to replay Persona 5 Royal lol. I originally played it on Switch but got it on PS5 after I got one but it's been on my backlog since I've played it before.
The backlog is our greatest enemy
Tbh I feel you overplaced Takemi just because I feel like her abilities aren't that really good when you have Morgana in the party just because Proud Presence is really good especially earlier in the game and that's why I don't really see use for Takemi's abilities even her SP Restoration accessories wasn't that that "GOOD" like some may claim, I think you could do well without it you just gotta be cautious about how you spent your SP in Palaces
Also I think Hifumi's party switch ability is good and all but there's no way you could use it properly unless you have Mishima maxed out because back up members tend to be underleveled...BUT I'm a bit biased because it let me switch out characters in their Awakening battle which is AMAZING and got a few laughs out of it.
That’s wild I didn’t even put her that high for the exact reasoning you stated. I never found her wares useful. I never really used Hifumi’s stuff in Royal cause I never really had a time where I needed to swap party members.
@@KDThreeSixty yeah but for me she's C tier, tbh I only rank her to get the arcana boost for my baby boy Nue since he's the very first Persona who learns "Curse Boost" and I truly love these skills and usually put them for Arsène but eh you could use Ryuji's insta kill and just Grind. And I do feel the same about hifumi but I still use it anyway just to have some fun and troll on Haru :v
To be fair though, SP Adhesive 3 on Morgana is pretty helpful. I rarely ever come across situations where he doesn't have enough SP to use a healing skill with SP Adhesive 3 on him even in late-game, and if it ever does get too low, that's why I absolutely stack up on master coffees and curry. It's not fool-proof by any means, but it seriously helps for long drawn-out battles. Granted, if you stack up on SP restoratives, you might not even need the adhesive at all, it kinda just depends on how you play the game. I tend to play it safe by using the adhesive because I know that at some point, I will forget to make more coffees and curry, and it will absolutely screw me over, especially on Merciless difficulty
I remember playing base p5 and thinking SP Adhesive 3 was the most op item in the game (and lowkey it was), playing royal now and having access to the camera strap just made it completely useless. Sad really.
minimum lvl 7 bc SP adhesive three is almost mandatory to A) one day palaces and B) last through late game endurance tests. and the discount is mandatory for not dying of starvation either in game from spending all your money on SP adhesives or IRL from grinding.
The time management confidants are without a doubt the most valuable, because in the middle and late game your phantom thieves can take down anything, but the confidant grind remains, and the abilities that help you save time never lose their value. Also, I 100% agree that Chihaya is the best non-phantom thief girl, and her 100K requirement isn't even that bad because when by the time I start her confidant I'm right out of Kaneshiro's bank and have the money to spare. Too bad my heart already belongs to Haru...
Tier S: Chihaya Mifune, Sadayo Kawakami
Tier A: Velvet Room Twins, Ryuji Sakamoto, Hifumi Togo, Yuuki Mishima, Toranosuke Yoshida
Tier B: Futaba Sakura, Ann Takamaki, Yusuke Kitagawa, Makoto Niijima, Haru Okumura, Takoto Maruki
Tier C: Kasumi Yoshizawa, Goro Akechi, Shinya Oda, Tae Takemi, Munehisa Iwai, Sojiro Sakura
Tier D: Ichiko Ohya
My friend was playing persona 5 royal for the first time a while back. He ignored Ohya entirely because she was the Devil arcana. Smartest move he made all game. Lol
Also, he really took a liking to yoshida or as he liked to call him, Charles.
@@mistydolphin2524 he looks like a charles
the star confidant is amazing wdym 😭
It would be if it wasn't so easy to cheese the darn game
I don't know why everyone hypes up Mishima so much. The exp bonus he gives is +10% from rank 7 onwards. That absolutely pales in comparison to accessories, that can give up to +50% and jose, who can give +100%. His only useful skill is his first one, which is already more than enough to not have any wildly underleveled teammates. And his last one is useful only in edge cases.
Cause its just another bonus, its easy to achive because basically you need to just go to memento. And if you wanna do it correctly after all you want to have everyone maxed. So as he is giving you exp for nothing you want to get him. And you want to max every bonus exp if you farm it. So he is just neeeded
Mishima is very easy to rank up, and it's nice not having to swap accessories all the time for exp
@@Hazard598 I think getting 5 stamps in mementos is easier than spending 6 timeslots with mishima and completing like 4 mementos requests from him. In both cases, you get the same results, but the stamps can keep stacking. Also one more thing, switching to merciless increases exp 1.2x, which is also a lot better than mishima, while not making the game any harder.
And before you say that I can just do all of those, yes and I do them. I just simply think Mishima is completely overhyped for the miniscule bonus he gives.
Yoshida is underrated here. Fundraising alone being such an early perk to get and synergising so well with the special treatment perk from the twins.
You're also the first person I've seen who LIKES Ohya
@@quantm3649 I think he is amazing, but the new stuff just overshadows it. Instant kill farming is just too good. When it comes to Ohya, her personality is amazing. I just think people hate her because of how she looks compared to the other female characters
the confidant i hate but i know it's damn useful : mishima
TRUE
Can we all agree that the story Confidants are, from worst to best: Sae, Morgana, Igor?
Yes
Sae being the worst is a no brainer dawg, absolutely nothing of value except getting access to Satan
To be fair, Igor's confidant is just you-know-who telling you, that you're close to the truth and then you get a few more persona slots and on rank 10 there's a plot twist and an explanation why Igor sounded so different from his Persona 3 and 4 appearances.
For me personally Sae at least had more personality than Igor and actually was a part of the plot and Morgana's whole story arc throughout the game actually was just really good, so it's Igor > Sae > Morgana for me.
My best to worst characters list of Persona 5:
1. Ryuji Sokomoto (Persona: Captain Kidd)
2. Kasumi/ Sumire Yoshizawa
3. Makoto Niijima (Persona: Johanna)
4. Yuuki Mishima
(The Phan-Site Manager)
5. Hiifumi Togo ( The Shogi Queen)
6 Futaba Sakura (AKA Alibaba)
7. Yusuke Kitagawa (Persona: Goemon)
8. Ann Takamaki (Persona: Carmen)
9. Chihaya
10. Justine Twins/ Lavenza
11. Sadayo Kawamaki
12. Goro Akechi
(Persona: Robin Hood/Loki)
13. Haru Okumura (Persona: Milady)
14. Dr. Maruki
15. Sojiro Sakura
(Coffee Man/ Futaba's Caregiver; Retired Detective of Japanese Police after Wakaba Ishikki's death)
16. Munehisa Iwai (Pawn Shop business owner who occasionally condoned some shady business with the Japanese underground.)
17. Shinya Oda (Video Game Champion)
18. Tae Takemi (Punk Drug Store Clinique)
19. No Good Taro
(Politician who had three strikes in his record)
20. Ichiko Ohya (News Reporter who often got up to no good and drank too much booze in her business.)
Have you played the game at all ? How the f yoshitzawa ranked higher than kawakami and chihaya.
All yoshitzawa did was allow u to hook enemy and that's it.
Meanwhile, other confidants gave u more time to spend and make your persona powerful enough to fight ng+ boss.
Without both of them, you will never beat ng+ boss on merciless even if you have izanagi no okami.
@@Terry-qr9mv some people actually enjoy the characters instead of minmaxing, like who in their actual right mind would rank chihaya above yoshizawa
Yeah this was a tier list based on how good the perks were. I have a separate one for personalities
Sojiro over takemi for Sp gain? Every interesting. Nah but being a ass aside, I disagree with alot of these but it’s kinda interesting hearing your views on this.
W list as always
Thanks, is the audio better?
@@KDThreeSixtyit is, thanks for lisening to feedback
Special Massage is GOATed
Can we also talk about how Sojiro gives kindness from hanging out with him...but you need max kindness to get past rank 6?
Like Im already max this is useless.... My guess was that you didnt need Max at first but they later changed it to max needed for...stupid reasons.
Attis weak? Are you sure? I'm not an experienced SMT player, but in terms of general rpg design, having all party buffs set up in a single turn looks like a lot, and the only other way to do it comes in the final arc. Sure, you can pass his trait onto something else, but you still need to get it. Having Thermopylae at will saves a lot of buff turns. Idk, maybe experienced players can clean even bosses in 3 turns with auto-kaja skills, but it looks pretty good to me.
It is, I'm just spoiled by other options and the lack of difficulty to appreciate it.
Taro is actually D tier cause one the twins do what he does but easier, two Momentos exists where now you can increase your money and level 3 times as fast and because you can rush enemies to insta kill negotiations aren’t required
Sexy Technique rarely works mainly because most enemies from the 2nd to 5th palaces are beasts and not male humanoid characters male creatures are also affected but it mainly works when certain requirements are fulfilled. 1. Is that the enemy can’t attack more than one member especially Ann herself, and two the attack needs to be a physical attack and not special skill.
To be honest compared to P3 and P4. P5's confidants are 99% good except for Ohya. other than that P5's confidants/social link are better than P3/P4.
Is there any chance you have an in-depth guide on recruiting personas I struggle with talking mechanic in the game picking the right choices? Thanks
@@positiveproductions6699 Not at the moment, maybe I’ll make one in the future.
Hifumi for sure is the best, even given the ability to switch characters
wtf are you talking about??? attis has vitality of the tree which literally lets you use a full party heat riser for only 30 SP??? It literally makes Hyakka whatever worthless
i want you to know i made the same exact Joke when i first met Yusuke Kitagawa calling him Urumeshi instead
Great minds think alike
I will not take this sun confidant disrespect
i like to watch persona content.
makoto is 11 :Skull:
her perks are doodoo
She is there because of her Persona’s evolutions which are more useful than the perks of people below her
Listen... Ichiho Ohya's friend had it rough. As bad as this one is I would honestly still be friends with her just to help them both...
(Also Futaba and ren are like my favourite duo so -anyway at least is not Ken Amada or something worse so...- regardless of how people see this I find them cute. If you don't agree I understand. I mean some people see her more like a kid [or more like a little sister] even though they are like one or two years apart and fortunately is not Oreimo. So... For me as long as they wait and Also as long as they tell Sojiro and keep it correct in a legal I'm good with that)
Ohya and lala are amazing characters. It sucks that they got stuck with bad perks
Erm Haru is too low for me personally 🤓
Does she go in god tier???
@@KDThreeSixty yes, she got that cute but deadly mentality
@@BallinNaotoand that’s all a man needs
@@KDThreeSixtyabsolutely, free sp recovery items, some of the best confidant writing, and she's a cool character who I think fits honey best as a love interest
I'm sorry what SP item invalidate Takemi? Its free SP per turn. I guess its because I didn't explore the DLC pack enough for busted items I dunno but SP saves has always been a staple of Persona. And you effectively drive costs down by simply having SP3s equipped. Are there strong SP items? Yes. You can easily make it through the game without the Adhesive but that doesn't invalidate that how insanely good those adhesives are. That said she's decent in B tier
I do think Shinya still belongs in A tier even if at the very bottom. Down Shot is that good and I guess people hate Bullet Bail but negging enemy health as an ambush is stupid good.
Putting Iwai as high as you did is just. Gun Customization is not useful. You can neg any encounter without Iwai and I'm sure there's some circumstances where its awesome but honestly I just had next to no interest which is a shame
No lie rating the party member confidant line who isn't Oracle is a waste of time. None of their abilities are that good with many of them being same tactics skills like distrupting enemy actions, follow up attacks, Harisen, and Protect.
I think you're smoking though. Kawakami should remain in S. Just...by the logic of how Chihaya works Kawakami is right behind it and Kawakami because you can start it early the only thing that hurts it is waiting for the the final higher tier Mementos mission to finish her line. Even so.
And I get it with Ryuji. I think its good...once you've done anything. You shouldn't even need to grind even on the hardest mode in this game. Atlus and SMT games in general always gives me a general rule. Play normally then in the finale go crazy. Once I was in the 2nd semester I could go nuts with Insta-kill getting persona and material I need to get my alarms for better rewards and EXP . It just simply made getting stuff trival.
In vanilla for Plat during my 2nd play through I got Instakill early because end games items help and you keep your Stats. Instakill just invaldiated the rest of the game and I had to turn it off or just not have Ryuji in the party because I ALWAYS approach Shadows via ambush and I can think of what reason I would ever do the opposite. I think Ryuji is the one that is a strong A while Kawakami is right next to Chihaya who I too admit is the best. Her fortunes are super early and they help boost what you need when you need it.
Is Makoto still best ass? Or did the new chick pass her?
@@martymcfly88mph35 I think kasumi out damages her, but makoto is more useful overall.
Mishima S+ Tier
Goro akechi's confidant is only useful cause of jazz and the affinity chance never really triggered for me, it was makoto ability's shadow factorization always triggered.
For that reason, i didn't even bother akechi confidant after rank 4 cause it wasted of time and didn't like him.
If you used him on final boss on 3rd sem, you will also know what i mean.
Sleuthing Instinct/Mastery only works on one enemy and doesn't activate during boss fights... On top of that, once the compendium is complete, you'll know all of their affinities so it's useless
And you have to max out his confidant as the persona you unlock from doing so is Metatron who is required for a fusion chain that results in Ren's ultimate persona Satanael in NG+
Long story short, Satanael is the only reason to bother maxing out the Justice confidant and the Jazz Club is the only reason to bother with him at all
@@infernape2010 agreed bro, I only max him out first playthrough to get metatron and then skip him NG+ after reached rank 4 lol 😂
I just didn't like him and I was still able to play 3rd sem.
@@Terry-qr9mv Yeah, Maruki is the only confidant required to access the 3rd semester and to be completely honest he's utterly useless in the 2 palaces he's available for being a broke man's version of Naoto in the 6th palace (He's not even good enough to be a poor man's version) and the final palace he's even worse as his strongest attack Laevateinn is a worse version of God's Hand because it has a 0% crit chance
Understandable
Isn't Attis with thermopylae like broken? Why is he one of the worst ultimate personas?
Orpheus female exists
@@KDThreeSixty ah ok, forgot abt dlc lol
It's even more bad when you consider that mithra learns it at lv38.
yeah but dlc is criiiinge, orpheus is criiiinge@@KDThreeSixty
@@TiramisuTTXD The game is already a joke in terms of difficulty without the DLC.
Best girl
Is that... disgaea 3 i hear?
Yessir, I love those overworld themes!
i thought i recognized it!!!
😮a a sua Tava ligando para 😢5😊
I'm at rank 9 for strength before even anything to do with okumeras palace
Hifumi is f