Rebecca Hall, Tessa Thompson, Ruth Negga & André Holland on Passing | NYFF59
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Director Rebecca Hall and actors Tessa Thompson, Ruth Negga and André Holland discuss Passing, a Main Slate selection at NYFF59, with NYFF Director Eugene Hernandez.
A cornerstone work of Harlem Renaissance literature, Nella Larsen’s 1929 novel Passing is adapted to the screen with exquisite craft and skill by writer-director Rebecca Hall, who envelops the viewer in a bygone period that remains tragically present. The film’s extraordinary anchors are Tessa Thompson and Ruth Negga, meticulous as middle-class Irene and Clare, reacquainted childhood friends whose lives have taken divergent paths. Clare has decided to “pass” as white to maintain her social standing, even hiding her identity from her racist white husband, John (Alexander Skarsgård); Irene, on the other hand, is married to a prominent Black doctor, Brian (André Holland), who is initially horrified at Clare’s choices. As the film progresses, and resentments and latent attractions bristle, Hall creates an increasingly claustrophobic world both constructed and destabilized by racism, identity performance, and sexual frustration, leading to a shocking conclusion. A Netflix release.
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I like the line in the movie where she says "...we all are passing for something or another"
I also love that it’s shot in black and white it forces you to ironically not focus on colours bit the characters and the storytelling , beautiful.
Rebecca is incredible I love how she explained her reasoning. She has a bright future as a filmmaker no doubt if that is what she is pursuing. Also I"ve loved Ruth, Tessa, and Andre in their previous stuff so really looking forward to this
The first 20 minutes took my breathe away. I felt , the fear, the anxiety the uneasiness but then when she met Ruth it intensified especially that long silence between them in the cafe it was loud, so loud. Then that scene with the husband took me out. The emotional trauma of passing wasn’t even rewarding it was surviving. Jheeze. I wanna say more but l loved it. The directors reasoning is on point. 🎓👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️🎬🎭 Everyone who is confused by racism\ colorism this will breakdown the origins and the thinking behind it. Powerful works. 🎓👊🏾✊🏾🤗
Well said
Ah-Men!!! Well said I loved the film 🎥
Rebecca thank you for making this film.
Love, love, love them!!! Ruth is Eartha Kitts mini-me!!!❤️❤️❤️
I thought the same
Oh wow, Yes!
Yesss but I see Josephine baker more
I loved this moving for so many reasons, for my dad, for my grandma who could have been passing but decided not to. But not just for that reason because in black in white you don’t see the color, you more so feel the story. Yes you know these are black actors but it being in black and white you feel it more then you look at the color of peoples skin but you feel the emotions more so then anything else. You feel their emotions. I loved it. And it was very nicely done. ❤️
Beautiful film. Can't stop rewatching certain segments.Riveting.
The film blew me away. It really got me thinking. There are so many layers to it. I definitely want to read the book.
Rebecca did an excellent job. Great casting and gray directing. The subtle ambiguity reminds me of McQueen.
OMG love Rebecca's hair.
You'd be surprised how many people passed for white married whites and were never found out these people and their relatives are in high places to this day and will take that history to their graves! I'm glad she's aware of her history and not afraid to reveal it!
She still has the privilege esp now to capitalize from it.
Whats strange is Black people will not snitch on white passing Black people.
@@BronzeSista - Not so strange to me. I think it is part of the invisible bond that many Black Americans have with each other. Sort of like how many Black people in the USA will typically acknowledge each other, especially when encountering each other in largely non-Black dominated spaces. ...BTW, I am purposely narrowing the scope to Black Americans within the USA. Outside the US, that same level of 'kinship', for lack of a better term, between people who are Black doesn't always exist.
@@claudiawoods4382 i agree, we do have a bond. If you nod at an African, you might get a strange look. Also we don't always have the same skintone but we accept each other as Black. Some Africans think this is strange if you're not dark-skin, but this is America.
@@brixandblooms what kind of privilege?
Love Tessa Thompson and Ruth Negga, both are incredible on the screen and clearly off-screen too. Andre Holland is good too. I've only ever seen Rebecca Hall on-screen (she's great) and one hand I feel excited for the film which speaks to her directorial ability. However I still find it difficult when white women to take on projects that are rooted in very specific racial/cultural spaces.
I agree. But Rebecca's mother is mixed with Black, Native American, Scottish & Dutch. Rebecca's grandfather was African American, Native and Scottish and he decided to pass as a Native or a white man. Which is why after Rebecca read the book, she decided to make the movie. This movie reflects the life of her grandfather..
Rebecca gave her reason in the beginning of this video on why she wanted to make the film. Her mother and grandfather completely buried their African American roots. She can relate her family history to the source material. Looking at old pictures of her mom online...you can clearly see from her features she has black ancestry.
I’m ‘white’ but I’m half Mexican half Costa Rican and get mistaken for middle eastern. I’m not really interested in telling that story so if someone else wants to, go ahead. You’re basically telling people to stay in their line at at a time we want people to be accepted. You can’t have it both ways.
She’s making a film similar to her own family history! ….so she as a white woman with a biracial grandfather has every right to make such a film.
Did some of you even listen to the interview? Rebecca addressed WHY she choose women who clearly have African blood. It was to heighten the fear from the audience.
Ruth Negga should win the Oscar.
Fascinating, I’m looking forward to this. She’s brilliant, so glad I found this. Good for her! Better than most interviewer, a well.
Lovely movie and performances. Keen to see Hall director again really soon.
Such a deep movie
It was an awesome film. The ending...wow..
I've been watching Rebecca on the screen for years. I had no idea.
She’s fantastic and I bought into the idea that she had some Cherokee heritage. I could certainly sense some non-Whiteness to her features but never thought it was Black ancestry. Shame to see some commenters here really take umbrage at a “White woman invading their space.” I mean do you like the film or not, you know what I mean?
I’m a huge fan of Rebecca Hal, adding negga and Thompson wow. Can’t wait to see this.
this cast 🤩
Amazing!!
It’s interesting to me that Ruth thought Clare was being completely herself. I thought she was always acting, regardless of the context.
Interesting. I tend to agree with Ruth's perspective. Compared to Irene, Clare was not at all deluded about who she was, what she wanted, and the price that she paid for her decision to pass. If anything, Clare's blind spot was not being aware of just how profoundly her presence affected Irene. I mean, she was aware that she had the ability to manipulate and unsettle Irene, but she either was not aware of - or perhaps did not care - how much of an impact she made on Irene. Just as Clare decided to take into her own hands how she was going to exist in a White dominanted world that devalued Black people, I think her character figured that Irene could exercise the same options. Well, that is my. 02 cents. 🙂 In any case, I definitely enjoyed this film. Kudos to all involved.
Just speculating but maybe the maid was almost invisible to Irene because Irene may have her own issues with colorism. Was she jealous when she saw the maid sitting with Clara? She may have been envious of Clara because maybe her husband was charmed by Clara...because Clara is even lighter than her. Was she also in love with Clara? Did she worship/hate on Clara because she was really able to "leave"? She might have been envious of Clara's "freedom" of not having to deal with race even though that's not really true. Irene is an activist but she didn't want to have the talk with her sons thinking that would make racism less affective. She was bothered by Clara for going too far and passing permanently but she ran into Clara while SHE was passing for a day. Irene was hiding a lot.
I'm from Detroit. I knew Hall was black after looking her up after Vicky Christina. She too looked black to me. I'm happy she made this film. So many layers.
Americans and this obnoxious one drop rule. This ain't 1888. Y'all gotta stop the BS. Ms. Hall ain't black. She is white woman. Race is a social construct, not a biological construct. Ms Hall has a white father and a half white mother. She looks white, presents as white, is treated as white and experiences as the world as white. Why the hell would you think she is NOT white? SMH Y'all gotta stop this foolishness. She is white woman with some black ancestry. That doesn't make her a black woman smh
@@backto-il9ne I was just about to reply to RM then decided to read your reply and essentially you are correct. Miss. Hall looks Caucasian and will be seen as such. I am mixed and I know I am seen as many "races" and I accept that. I never understood the one drop rule and how so many people still hold onto that slave mentality. It is sad to see it however I fear it may never change any time soon.
@@backto-il9ne Don’t think that attitude is pervasive in America, I’ve never come across it. Could be wrong.
@@carolkotcheck6065 Well, it is definitely prevalent among the African American community. I know so many black folks always trying to claim white people with a drop of black blood.
I looked her up while watching that Woody Allen movie because I thought she appear "black" to my eyes. I know other identified blacks eho appear as she. And Hall appears "yte" TO YOU--or to others. Soooo? That's not fact. As Hall says herself, her own mother appeared black TO HER though apparently mother didn't own it and grandpappy was passing. Putting out there social contract doesn't necessarily deny a phenotype component. You crit studies folk know just enough to know nothing. Same thing regarding ur condemnation of the one drop rule. Bet ure onboard with gender identities with no biological support whatsoever. Not even "that drop." If a person is permitted to self-declare gender with no bio support, than parameter is of race cam be as well based on group identities and 25%+ of a racial composition. American Cherokees allow enrollment down to the 1/32. People can maintain citizenship in some countries with just one grandparent. So get out of here.
There's also serious contradiction here in that on one hand ure trying to make the point that race is fluid but some of u seem to crave a lighter black in the staring roles in the film. U don't even want the 50-percenters to be able to pass for the 25-percenters.
The thing here is just that u imagine Hall beautiful or otherwise and u don't thing she therefore should be claimed by or as black. Just racist and self-hating don't be black repliers. If I thought a person looked Irish notwithstanding 75%+ French background u wouldn't be so offended. So just stop.
The block looked like 148 st where I lived across the brownstone homes where they filmed.
In the UK I had never heard the term ‘passing’ unless someone was dying. I’ve only ever heard or had been told the sentence ‘she’s/he’s passing for white’ in conversation.
It’s more of a American thing.
Because civil rights for black Americans was pretty much nonexistent prior to the 60s many black ppl just pretended to be another race
I WAS THERE ON SUNDAY!
Tessa and Ruth look chic and 🔥
I hope to hear from Claire’s husband at some point. I’d love to hear his perspective.
19:15 explains the casting
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Ruth Negga very beautiful awesome actress.
who is Ruth Meghan?
@@TruOmilade I meant Ruth Negga
@@TruOmilade I meant Ruth Negga
i am most appreciatv of ths G.O.D. gvn gfts; th actors, th scenes, 4:3, black & whyte, th quiet, th juxplsitn, metaphorc artistc-aesthetc xperienc-yes, poetry...
i hv 1 questn; why did clare die at th nd-it seemd th only cliche of th movie?...
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🙋🏾♀️ no she’s in correct most Black people dark skin people people who have ancestors still slavery we know what the word passing is because a lot of Black people black light skin people did that even the movie they made about the dark skin nanny who had a biracial child and the child didn’t like it and ran off and was passing as white and her mother was looking for her and found her and her daughter got upset because she didn’t want white people to know her mother was black and dark so Black people African-Americans what the word passing mean. now I overstayed this lady right here she may not overstayed that because her family lied to her and made her think she was white but a black person can look at her I can look at her and see she have some type of black features Black people we know our people even the ones that’s passing for white we know our people even have color it’s not as white as white people she have color look at her🙄
Definitely think this was miscast. Like Freddi Washington, there are actresses today who have African ancestry and yet could believably pass as white. Hall's reasoning that casting ambiguous, but still Black presenting actors would up the tension/fear for the audience doesn't work--the unbelievability just removes the audience from the film. A Jennifer Beals/Halsey/Rashida Jones type casting would actually have achieved the "are they/aren't they" tension she tried to achieve.
No disrespect intended but this was by no means miscast. Ruth Negga is an amazing and powerful actress who has delivered many a stellar performance onscreen. I believe that Tessa was probably cast because she is more subtle and could serve as a contrast to Ruth in terms of acting styles. And, in Rebecca's own words "I'm not particularly interested in cinematic reality reflecting our reality...I'm interested in poetry and I'm interested in trying to make people feel things in an expressionistic sort of way". So, she herself stated her intent, which reflects her casting. Her intent was not to attempt to visually confuse the viewer but rather to take the viewer on the journey with the characters and attempt to make the audience feel what they felt and impact them in that way.
She actually addressed this about 5 minutes prior to the ending. I thought her reasoning was artistic & clever. I had the same idea. I even thought of Paula Patton playing the role. However I still enjoyed the movie and Rebecca was right...I was wondering how no one else could see their blackness. But listening to her explanation it made sense and she accomplished her goal. I found this was art. She really brought out an artistry to film I have not seen in a long time.
@@Audiomajik couldn’t have agreed more. I thought they were perfect.
@@cuquee12 exactly!
Wish the casting had been better, these two actresses can't pass for white. Quincy Jones daughter would have been a better choice.
They weren't supposed to. Rebecca Hall explicitly talks about why she cast the film the way she did starting around 20:00. And if you actually did some research on passing, you'd be surprised to see how many people managed to do so while looking very obviously non-white (but claimed to be part Native, Hispanic, Italian...anything other than Black to explain their complexion).
Get pass it.
Yea, Rashida Jones would've been a good choice. Also, Jennifer Beals.
@@ReelDreamer and... of course, that was the irony and the ignorance wasn’t it! @zan752000 There’s no point in being obvious? Black people could tell, for the most part, but white people could never tell! You were either perceived to be Asian or Mediterranean! Black features were a caricature of our race and what they expected to see. Finer features were confusing!
I love our diversity! Ruth has, what sounds like, an Irish accent. One of my best friends is a Nigerian-Glaswegian. Love it!
@@ReelDreamer These two biracial women look ambiguous.
"A little bit Black?"
I said the same thing. Maybe she wasn't familiar with the 1 drop rule.🤷🏾♀️
She was saying what her family would say to her about her mother's family.
@@Auntkekebaby I know, it's just how it sounds. I did enjoyed the film though, which is based on a novel by Nella Larson writing during the Harlem Renaissance.
So, why was the actor there?? He was totally shut out. How rude!!
No one is taking about Alexander Skarsgård being racist. Even if it is for a movie that doesn’t make it right. 🤷🏽♀️
Bad casting. If you really wanted an actress that looked ‘passing’, you need a meghan markle Type. There’s no way you can’t tell Tessa or Ruth are black.
They all are weird