whats funny is her eyes are roughly a similar distance but they're slightly bigger and you cant fit a 3rd eye between them anymore, as well as being slightly higher up on her face so she doesn't look like a 5-head.
Really I don't get the overreaction with her old design. Three people in the world complained about this, but as soon as hoyo change it everyone suddenly were relieved they "finally fixed her". Seems to me you just jumped on the bandwagon for attention
The ironic thing is they probably never changed the distance Instead they changed the eye shape, where the new eyes look slightly bigger because of it, which fits the 1:1:1 eye ratio better I like the shape of the older eyes tho, gave some uniqueness and added to personality
regarding 0:49 on reason why she sheath the blade upward, i learn it when i was studying in asakusa, japan, katana is actually faced upward for fastest pull on the sword, that is why vergil dmc5 stance is realistic more accurate compared from dmc 3 where he used the stance while the blade is downward, it actually what most samurai actually do, not only to retain the sharpness of the blade, it also not too dangerous when you face it downward (you can actually cut your finger when the blade is faced downward).
She doesn't look or feel like a kuudere. What about new makes them for a "kuudere"? They look more big and open, not slanted a bit more close. That screams tsundere or dandere to me personally
@@wingedflyingforce5139 Definitely not a tsundere, not even close. Kuudere and dandere are much more accurate as they're very similar from the outside. I think Kuudere, if she could be put into a 'dere' category, would be the better fit. "A "dandere" is silent and expressionless because they are not good at expressing their emotions and often don't respond even when people talk to them" "A "kuudere" is expressionless because they are "cool" and will respond with sharp-tongued jabs to make people leave them alone." From what little we have had with her, it's not that she's bad at expressing her emotions so much as she...well, like Plang said, an airhead, a ditz, and many of the things she says would fall more under 'cool' or 'sharp-tongued' categories of speaking, though it doesn't seem she says these things to push other away. So yeah, like I said, kuudere would IMO fit better, but I don't think she really falls into any dere category enough for them to fit, but we'll see once she's released and we get to interact with her more.
@@Egeslean I was talking about eye shapes. The old definitely was tsundere. Idk where you got those defs. But that's not what a kuudere not dandere is, nor does the dandere not talk. Kuuderes tend to be blunt, almost mono-tone, (sometimes/very rarely) socially awkward, and straight to the point without sounding angry. Tend to have wide clueless blank eyes, opposed to the narrow and furrowed eyes of a tsundere. I speak NOTHING of her personality and solely of her eye shape as the mentioned post does Narrow eyes are usually on tsundere and yanderes, and large expressive eyes on (true) kuuderes & dandere in most cases but not always true. Hence me asking what about the old eyes screams "kuudere" because there seems to be no sound logic behind their statement
@@wingedflyingforce5139 Where do you get YOUR definition from? Cuz it sounds just as made up as you think mine were. Besides you mixed up what he said, 'that the new eyes fit her cuz she's a kuudere'. You're making claims that don't hold water. Go ahead and look up some yanderes or tsunderes, they quite often have the large expressive eyes ESPECIALLY yanderes. I think you're talking out of your ass.
@@Egeslean I never said made up? I simply asked where I asked how is she kuudere. What claims do I make, and what water do they not hold? I could say the same about yours. How about you go look up yanderes or tsunderes, most when in serious mode have furrowed eyes when pissed off or when the yandere is annoyed. Yandere can have large eyes but only conditionally most times from what yanderes I have seen. But it seems like you are speaking out of your rear on the character being a kuudere.
older is good and I never really felt her eyes were too far apart. but I do agree that she look far less cold and much more approachable now. Just stoic mostly now rather than stone faced and distant
They are, yes, but there's also the tachi, and this kind of sword is sheathed blade down. Pretty much the only major difference between the two is the curvature.
Katana (more specifically uchigatana) is always Blade up, why? Because of culture and how its worn on your *waist* and not the *hip* like most swords. However, in actuality samurai mostly used Tachi, which were hanged from hangers (ashi) and was placed at the hip, not the waist like a katana. Tachi were also worn blade down, because its harder to unsheathe blade up when its on the hip. Unlike the katana which is on the waist where its actually harder to unsheathe blade down. They look very similar, because the Tachi came before the Katana! oh and before someone says it, 🤓☝️
oddly enough, that "small" tweak made me want to pull for her, as opposed to before where I didn't really want her because she looked "bland", quite odd how something so small can make a massive difference.
Her old eyes looks like she's always pissed off, her new eyes look like she's perpetually at the brink of crying. 🥺 I like the older version, reminds me of Kiryuin Satsuki, they really didn't have to change it. (at least to this degree) her pupils are too large, leaves no room for her iconic skeptic glare.
Back when I first saw her I was like, "Watch me not care about any other character and get her when she releases someday" and well, after Chapter 3 I took a break, never cared for any other character, returned, and got her in the first 30 pulls
She looks hotter in the new version. I liker her eyes, they are not only closer, their desing changed a little, can't point exactly what it is, but they look REALLY good
My only gripe with this change is that i feel like her new eyes dont really allow for badass moments like this 0:25 You need sharp-angled eyes for that impact frame to be cool. You can't have them moe-cutsey eyes shining from the dark for such an edgy scene or it will immediately turn goofy LOOOL
this is legit my biggest issue, aesthetically, w/zzz rn. it's the way they feel they ***NEED*** to make these women "palatable" to whiny babies, which ends up giving Every Character The Same Face, and this is something you see across *most* "waifu collector" anime styled games. the homogenic look is so terribly dull, but it's also taken as inoffensive and safe for coomers, let's be frfr. the comments here prove it, in the most disgusting ways tbh. instead of characters having... well, character lol, in their design, every *woman* has to look like a generic doll that doesn't scare away weak babies. that's actually far more egregious to me than a little booba bounce, tbh. it shows that they lack conviction w/their designs, that had to go through several revisions before making it into the game b/c that's how game design and character design works, b/c they're far too willing to capitulate to the demands of dullards. because they're so willing to do this, I'm *also* concerned that the guy designs will never touch the level of fan service present for girl designs, just to make sure they don't make straight BOYS "uncomfy," like showing any amount of skin, low rise jeans, exposed chests, lower necklines on apparel designs, the v cut "vagina bones" that you can see sometimes lmfao, and whatever else Boy Kissers enjoy lol. you see some of this in hsr, so I hope we can have a greater diversity of character design in zzz, but I'm losing faith it'll ever happen, unfortunately.
@@salinalunara It has nothing to do with any topic agenda or whatever your schizo-posting brain is bringing up. The ZZZ team is just way too reactive for a feedback (IMO) you can see that 100% we ahve examples. It happened to TV it happened to Miyabis eyes, En VAs changes, etc, they are too hardcore with their light-speed revisions. But i feel it it were my way or yours... The game would probably be already dead cus its seems TV sections literally divided and tribalised community HAAARD, real hard. They probably had to go, to stop this divisive discussions from happening even more. But this is the most divisive community of some game i ever expirienced, and now i understand the importance of finiliazing the product and showing only ONE version of it. Otherwise you'll THIS over and over. ☠☠
@@salinalunara I hate moe-doll cutsey eyes, and that kinda homogenisation too, i agree. But you made your statement sound too reflective of IRL politics that seemed to try to make some kind of statement so i thought you have "insufferable, and devoid of all nuance, way to political takes" lets call it a "*syndrome*" XD I dont care for pondering to coomers cause we made to breed and this thought is always there for your whole life since that moment you go into puberty.
@@salinalunara The ZZZ team is just way too reactive for a feedback (IMO) you can see that 100% we ahve examples. It happened to TV it happened to Miyabis eyes, En VAs changes, etc, they are too hardcore with their light-speed revisions. But i feel it it were my way or yours... The game would probably be already dead cus its seems TV sections literally divided and tribalised community HAAARD, real hard. They probably had to go, to stop this divisive discussions from happening even more. But this is the most divisive community of some game i ever expirienced, and now i understand the importance of finiliazing the product and showing only ONE version of it. Otherwise you'll THIS over and over. ☠☠
I like Miyabi's old face more because it differentiated her from most other character designs and made her look different Her face wasn't perfect, but that didn't make her any worse. She was unconventionally beautiful and that made her closer to reality, where beauty is multifaceted (Also, the redesign has no facial expressions and eyebrows are not visible due to the smallness of the face and relatively large bangs, which makes it even worse)
Eyes are really important for an anime artstyle, more so than the eyebrows. There was genuine criticism there and I think they made the right call. I think all they really needed to do was raise the eyes and make the irises bigger, but the eye shape defenetly makes her feel more in universe and I think is a welcome addition
Thats literally the point of the redesign to make her expressionless. Its to make her look cold. She's the type of character who doesn't show much expression. Smh
@@S0UPIE you can have a feel for a character through any interaction with them whatsoever, they are masterfully designed with some things they INSTANTLY give out without ever emoting or saying anything. Just by their single, idle look. There is extreme detail and overlap at this kinda high-budget games, like m6 of Anby and Sol11 parraleling happens eevrywhere so much so that even their M6 parralel eachother.
Crazy as it may sound, I feel like aside from the eyes being too far apart on the old model, it overall fit her personality better. The new one is fine and overall higher quality, though.
Blade facing upward and/or outward when releasing & sheeting the Katana is the proper form in Budo Swordsmanship. Any other way is sloppy and unacceptable.
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She already stole my heart since the first ever trailer she in it...
the later looks better but older is also good, finally her eye not so far apart 😭
whats funny is her eyes are roughly a similar distance but they're slightly bigger and you cant fit a 3rd eye between them anymore, as well as being slightly higher up on her face so she doesn't look like a 5-head.
her eyes are still the same distance lol, the only thing that got changed what the eye shape.
Miyabi's eyes are engaged in a long distance relationship
Really I don't get the overreaction with her old design.
Three people in the world complained about this, but as soon as hoyo change it everyone suddenly were relieved they "finally fixed her". Seems to me you just jumped on the bandwagon for attention
The ironic thing is they probably never changed the distance
Instead they changed the eye shape, where the new eyes look slightly bigger because of it, which fits the 1:1:1 eye ratio better
I like the shape of the older eyes tho, gave some uniqueness and added to personality
I just want to play as Vergil
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
Play PGR, there's an upcoming DMC collab
Play sekiro with vergil mod
Then play DMC5
@@akhsanarrazi7825 thanks captain, I was not aware from what game this Vergil character was...
Her old design's eyes are about as close as my parents are.
Old Miyabi's eyes are engaged in a long distance relationship
No you didn't just say that 😭
regarding 0:49 on reason why she sheath the blade upward, i learn it when i was studying in asakusa, japan, katana is actually faced upward for fastest pull on the sword, that is why vergil dmc5 stance is realistic more accurate compared from dmc 3 where he used the stance while the blade is downward, it actually what most samurai actually do, not only to retain the sharpness of the blade, it also not too dangerous when you face it downward (you can actually cut your finger when the blade is faced downward).
I’m quite sure it can also cut the scabbard after a while
Her new eyes actually fits her since she's a kuudere. And it makes her character even funnier when knowing she's an airhead 😂
She doesn't look or feel like a kuudere. What about new makes them for a "kuudere"? They look more big and open, not slanted a bit more close. That screams tsundere or dandere to me personally
@@wingedflyingforce5139 Definitely not a tsundere, not even close. Kuudere and dandere are much more accurate as they're very similar from the outside. I think Kuudere, if she could be put into a 'dere' category, would be the better fit.
"A "dandere" is silent and expressionless because they are not good at expressing their emotions and often don't respond even when people talk to them"
"A "kuudere" is expressionless because they are "cool" and will respond with sharp-tongued jabs to make people leave them alone."
From what little we have had with her, it's not that she's bad at expressing her emotions so much as she...well, like Plang said, an airhead, a ditz, and many of the things she says would fall more under 'cool' or 'sharp-tongued' categories of speaking, though it doesn't seem she says these things to push other away.
So yeah, like I said, kuudere would IMO fit better, but I don't think she really falls into any dere category enough for them to fit, but we'll see once she's released and we get to interact with her more.
@@Egeslean I was talking about eye shapes. The old definitely was tsundere. Idk where you got those defs. But that's not what a kuudere not dandere is, nor does the dandere not talk.
Kuuderes tend to be blunt, almost mono-tone, (sometimes/very rarely) socially awkward, and straight to the point without sounding angry. Tend to have wide clueless blank eyes, opposed to the narrow and furrowed eyes of a tsundere.
I speak NOTHING of her personality and solely of her eye shape as the mentioned post does
Narrow eyes are usually on tsundere and yanderes, and large expressive eyes on (true) kuuderes & dandere in most cases but not always true. Hence me asking what about the old eyes screams "kuudere" because there seems to be no sound logic behind their statement
@@wingedflyingforce5139 Where do you get YOUR definition from? Cuz it sounds just as made up as you think mine were.
Besides you mixed up what he said, 'that the new eyes fit her cuz she's a kuudere'.
You're making claims that don't hold water. Go ahead and look up some yanderes or tsunderes, they quite often have the large expressive eyes ESPECIALLY yanderes. I think you're talking out of your ass.
@@Egeslean I never said made up? I simply asked where
I asked how is she kuudere. What claims do I make, and what water do they not hold? I could say the same about yours. How about you go look up yanderes or tsunderes, most when in serious mode have furrowed eyes when pissed off or when the yandere is annoyed. Yandere can have large eyes but only conditionally most times from what yanderes I have seen.
But it seems like you are speaking out of your rear on the character being a kuudere.
You could say I’m motivated to pull for her now
I'm fine either way.
Because she Judgment Cuts either way.
older is good and I never really felt her eyes were too far apart. but I do agree that she look far less cold and much more approachable now. Just stoic mostly now rather than stone faced and distant
She looks more like Mio now.
damn you. I wanted to be a contrarian and a hater but now youre winning me over
it really is just mio with fox ears, I mean they even got the same english va lol
pretty sure katana is always blade up...if not, they mess up.
They are, yes, but there's also the tachi, and this kind of sword is sheathed blade down. Pretty much the only major difference between the two is the curvature.
Katana (more specifically uchigatana) is always Blade up, why? Because of culture and how its worn on your *waist* and not the *hip* like most swords.
However, in actuality samurai mostly used Tachi, which were hanged from hangers (ashi) and was placed at the hip, not the waist like a katana. Tachi were also worn blade down, because its harder to unsheathe blade up when its on the hip. Unlike the katana which is on the waist where its actually harder to unsheathe blade down.
They look very similar, because the Tachi came before the Katana!
oh and before someone says it, 🤓☝️
New Miyabi is literally the cutest thing known to mankind
they change the eyes shape
Bro how many kids does Vergil have
I actually like how her eyes are far apart back then
New version looks better overall but I think they went overboard with the changes and should’ve kept her expression closer to the old version
Every Hoyo game needs its Vergil clone and BOY HOWDY am i ALWAYS here for it.
She’s now wife coded
New one is cuter, old one is like my cat when I'm about to bother her with cuddles.
170cm tall, and that's including her ears 😂
This special episode just shows 3 goofy goobers with their guardian
new version just so genic now legit just like every other char now
They change her belt too
I really feel that old miyabi problem not about the eye distance, but the left n right sight feels like not on the same point.
I dont care. She WILL be mine!
i liked the colder look for her 😔😔
I think "😭" is his favorite emoji... idk why 😂
First one looks cuter. 2nd one leans more on the how cool she looks.
oddly enough, that "small" tweak made me want to pull for her, as opposed to before where I didn't really want her because she looked "bland", quite odd how something so small can make a massive difference.
The original 1.0 cutscene was fucking insane.
Personally I don’t think they needed to change her, anyways she looks great in both.
her old design had this weird alignment with her hair and her eyes. now it feels more natural, cute even i guess
Old was cuter imo, she got a bit of that dork aura
I can’t be the only one who thought she looked normal before people started pointing out her eyes and now i can’t unsee it.
Her old design never bothered me I never noticed anything but new design is great 😊
I actually like the older ones better. It gives her more character
Both Miyabi's have stolen my heart and my polychromes since the day i saw her
impact flames
Ngl old Miyabi is fine but the new one is straight up adorable 🗿
I was only focused on getting the weapon and gameplay. after the revamp, she is so beautiful that im literally stun locked rn
Her eyes didn't made me lover her design but her floppy ears did
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY SWING
THATS SO CUTEEEE
Her old eyes looks like she's always pissed off, her new eyes look like she's perpetually at the brink of crying. 🥺
I like the older version, reminds me of Kiryuin Satsuki, they really didn't have to change it. (at least to this degree) her pupils are too large, leaves no room for her iconic skeptic glare.
Old version definitely had more character.
Grace, Zhu Yuan and Miyabi were the characters that made me want to play ZZZ
It wasn't just her eyes they changed, but her hair as well, her bangs have more curve to it.
old miyabi neutral is exuding tibetan fox
Eyes still wide af lol
Happily for me I just got Yanagi so now I can start the grind for Miyabi.
bombastic side eyes is gone 😭
Back when I first saw her I was like, "Watch me not care about any other character and get her when she releases someday" and well, after Chapter 3 I took a break, never cared for any other character, returned, and got her in the first 30 pulls
miyabi's old eyes were so derpy lol
BURY THE SEED DEEP WITHINNNNNNNNNNNN!
CAST ASIDE LIKE THERE IS NO COMING HOOOOOOOOME
@@DesghioWE'RE BURNING CHAOS IN THE WINDDDDD!!!!
DRIFTING IN THE OCEAN ALL ALOOOOOONEEEE
older one is cute, new one looks so goofy
still remember when she spoke some non sense that her comrade has to translate every line she said.
is she the strongest character in ZZZ world? they should create the first SS-ranked character using her. she seems op.
She looks hotter in the new version. I liker her eyes, they are not only closer, their desing changed a little, can't point exactly what it is, but they look REALLY good
Burnice and Jane are still my favorite................................
I never cared for looks, she uses her sword and shes badass about it, thats all i want
ngl i love the new one
Me looking at new Miyabi design:
Rio (Blue Archive character), is that you!!!?
My only gripe with this change is that i feel like her new eyes dont really allow for badass moments like this 0:25
You need sharp-angled eyes for that impact frame to be cool. You can't have them moe-cutsey eyes shining from the dark for such an edgy scene or it will immediately turn goofy LOOOL
not gonna lie her sword design stole my heart
Older one looks miles above the current one.
She looked great before. While I like the new design too, they did kinda turn her into a doll
this is legit my biggest issue, aesthetically, w/zzz rn. it's the way they feel they ***NEED*** to make these women "palatable" to whiny babies, which ends up giving Every Character The Same Face, and this is something you see across *most* "waifu collector" anime styled games.
the homogenic look is so terribly dull, but it's also taken as inoffensive and safe for coomers, let's be frfr. the comments here prove it, in the most disgusting ways tbh.
instead of characters having... well, character lol, in their design, every *woman* has to look like a generic doll that doesn't scare away weak babies.
that's actually far more egregious to me than a little booba bounce, tbh.
it shows that they lack conviction w/their designs, that had to go through several revisions before making it into the game b/c that's how game design and character design works, b/c they're far too willing to capitulate to the demands of dullards.
because they're so willing to do this, I'm *also* concerned that the guy designs will never touch the level of fan service present for girl designs, just to make sure they don't make straight BOYS "uncomfy," like showing any amount of skin, low rise jeans, exposed chests, lower necklines on apparel designs, the v cut "vagina bones" that you can see sometimes lmfao, and whatever else Boy Kissers enjoy lol. you see some of this in hsr, so I hope we can have a greater diversity of character design in zzz, but I'm losing faith it'll ever happen, unfortunately.
@@salinalunara It has nothing to do with any topic agenda or whatever your schizo-posting brain is bringing up. The ZZZ team is just way too reactive for a feedback (IMO) you can see that 100% we ahve examples. It happened to TV it happened to Miyabis eyes, En VAs changes, etc, they are too hardcore with their light-speed revisions. But i feel it it were my way or yours... The game would probably be already dead cus its seems TV sections literally divided and tribalised community HAAARD, real hard. They probably had to go, to stop this divisive discussions from happening even more.
But this is the most divisive community of some game i ever expirienced, and now i understand the importance of finiliazing the product and showing only ONE version of it. Otherwise you'll THIS over and over. ☠☠
@@salinalunara I hate moe-doll cutsey eyes, and that kinda homogenisation too, i agree. But you made your statement sound too reflective of IRL politics that seemed to try to make some kind of statement so i thought you have "insufferable, and devoid of all nuance, way to political takes" lets call it a "*syndrome*" XD
I dont care for pondering to coomers cause we made to breed and this thought is always there for your whole life since that moment you go into puberty.
@@salinalunara The ZZZ team is just way too reactive for a feedback (IMO) you can see that 100% we ahve examples. It happened to TV it happened to Miyabis eyes, En VAs changes, etc, they are too hardcore with their light-speed revisions. But i feel it it were my way or yours... The game would probably be already dead cus its seems TV sections literally divided and tribalised community HAAARD, real hard. They probably had to go, to stop this divisive discussions from happening even more.
But this is the most divisive community of some game i ever expirienced, and now i understand the importance of finiliazing the product and showing only ONE version of it. Otherwise you'll THIS over and over. ☠☠
@@salinalunara idk Piper's Face is very... Tired, in other words different compared to others
I like Miyabi's old face more because it differentiated her from most other character designs and made her look different
Her face wasn't perfect, but that didn't make her any worse. She was unconventionally beautiful and that made her closer to reality, where beauty is multifaceted
(Also, the redesign has no facial expressions and eyebrows are not visible due to the smallness of the face and relatively large bangs, which makes it even worse)
Eyes are really important for an anime artstyle, more so than the eyebrows. There was genuine criticism there and I think they made the right call.
I think all they really needed to do was raise the eyes and make the irises bigger, but the eye shape defenetly makes her feel more in universe and I think is a welcome addition
Cry
Thats literally the point of the redesign to make her expressionless. Its to make her look cold. She's the type of character who doesn't show much expression. Smh
@@imadegenerate9867How do you know what type of character she is when she's not even out...
@@S0UPIE you can have a feel for a character through any interaction with them whatsoever, they are masterfully designed with some things they INSTANTLY give out without ever emoting or saying anything. Just by their single, idle look. There is extreme detail and overlap at this kinda high-budget games, like m6 of Anby and Sol11 parraleling happens eevrywhere so much so that even their M6 parralel eachother.
Is it just me or I feel the new one is actually more dead pan and I dont have a thought behind my eyes than the previous one.
I personally dont mind either designs, the first one is more... serious, i quess? The new one is warmer and more fitting imo.
New one look more cute.
Finally i can play Vergil without playing DMC5
This miyabi looks way better now that's why i want her soo badly 😭
I feel like they could’ve kept the old eye shape but just had moved them closer, I like it but her new eyes kinda make her look like everyone else
they should make her ears larger every patch
old look more badass
new looks cuter
Crimson Weave 😅
new one better, looks cuter
cant wait for a new soukaku VA
Her old version I didn’t like her and thought “ooo edgey fox samurai girl” but once I got her in game, she’s OP 😮
2025 New Miyabi Pro 256GB
its an improvement, but never bothered me that much to start
ZZZ have a trend where Playerbase have always been shitting on this game since July when this game released..
i love all miyabis
Why they ditched 60 fps cutscenes for pre rendered at 30fps????
it's minor but it changes *everything* woah
Do they go back to remake her cutscene and appearance in ver 1.0 to be in line with the new design as well?
Crazy as it may sound, I feel like aside from the eyes being too far apart on the old model, it overall fit her personality better. The new one is fine and overall higher quality, though.
What she needed was a tail...
Blade facing upward and/or outward when releasing & sheeting the Katana is the proper form in Budo Swordsmanship. Any other way is sloppy and unacceptable.
Old one ofcourse looks better
Nuh uh
wrong opinion
To me the real issue was the eye color and design
She coming next patch as anomaly GET YR WALLET READY 😭 😭
Honestly i just think they made here eyes too big, i miss when they were kinda narrow, and i liked the sort of cold vibe she gave off
The old one is better but, I guess new one is not that bad, I'll pull for her for the skill animations and damage anyway
Tighnari's sister
Kuro Neko, Rory Mercury my beloveds
New design looks better and cuter
I think im blind cuz i can't tell the difference
Am i just blind? I literally cant tell the difference
To me, she looked okay before; but now she definitely looks better! 😊
Is it because the other game they have collab with dmc 5?
Her old look was more unique. Now she is just a generic japanese samurai princess as far as looks go. Not bad but nothing special.
This