The Future of Pet Antibiotics, Aquatic/FISH and Bird, with Dr. Alton
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Animal antibiotics are becoming harder to aquire. Recently, the FDA issued Industry Guidance #263, a ruling that all remaining over-the-counter “medically-important” veterinary antibiotics should be “transitioned” to prescription-only by June 2023. What does this mean for the hobby pet owner? Watch Dr. Joseph Alton, Co-Author of The Survival Medicine Handbook.
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Please be safe and healthy everyone! Amy Alton, ARNP and Joseph Alton, MD.
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I just tried to get penicillin for a sick kitten that has a upper respiratory infection. That 250ml bottle was 45 dollars an they wanted a script from the vet. Last time i bought any it was 10 dollars. Been a dairy farmer most of my life. Taken care of my animals on my own. Called vet when I needed them. An it's come down to calling the vet for everything. Total bologna ya ask me. Don't need no government telling me what to do or how to take care of my animals. The animals always come before me.
It’s over
Change to natural, meaning in ur area plants. Buying herbs will be outlawed too as they’re very effective so u will have to gather ur own n make a tea or tincture them.
Couldn't agree more, aubrey!
Vetinary medicine is going the same way as human medicine. I took my dog to the vet for a problem recently the cost was $800.00 for an X-ray and blood test and never found out what was wrong.
Control does seem to be the name of the game. Now I live near the Mexican border, and I can go down there and buy anything they have in stock at the Pharmacia without a prescription, and the drugs are cheaper there too.
Been using fish mox Forte for probably 15 years.
Victory, Fish Mox Forte is no longer in production, Aqua-mox is an equivalent still available for purchase...
You take it how many times a month ??????
@@DrBonesNurseAmy thanks for the info
@@davidn5334 you should only take it if you actually have an infection.
Right now lots of pharmacies can't get amoxicillin. Some people have said India and China are restricting medications and ingredients to the US. So I believe it's going to get harder. Stock up while you still can. ❤️👍🇺🇲
yes, nana, although it mainly impacts the powdered version for elixirs.
This announcement from the government is obscene. Disgusting overreach.
I’m glad I started stockpiling 2 years ago after Dr Bones posted the video all about fish and bird antibiotics…and bought the book too. He said not to freeze them but keep in cool dry place.
Me too. I vacuum packed mine.
O2 absorbers help.
@@brucewilliams2106 what are 02 observers?
@@dougschmidt4137 oxygen absorbers. prevents oxidation. little packs similar to hand warmers
Bruce have you ever bought from California Pet Supply? Looks like they use a different brand but prices look reasonable!
Appreciate ya.
We just ordered a shipment of antibiotics for our "aquarium". Should be here this week. Before I forget to mention it, if y'all need an emergency medicine book, we love the books we ordered from doom and bloom. Quick read and understandable. Yep.
I just asked the vet I buy antibiotics from through the mail. There is no June date issued by the FDA to prevent the sale without a prescription for fish antibiotics. I ordered some anyway. The new rule is for specific animal antibiotics but not the many fish antibiotics that have been and still are available for sale.
Exactly! Thank you, its what we've been saying all along. Its for food producing livestock not hobby animals or fish.
Having access to ciprofloxacin azithromycin and cefalexin is great peace to me.
Thanks for your EXCELLENT book!
I gave it out to all of my family members for Christmas.
I ordered a “Jase Case” for myself and my wife, but they are quite pricey and we have a ton of medical bills piling up.
I’m really hoping the fish antibiotics are not going to be heavily controlled by our awesome, freedom loving, fentanyl loving and open border enthusiasts in the government.
😡
I’m a volunteer firefighter and MICU paramedic and am honestly terrified of the future for the average US citizen.
The tyranny is addictive and there’s no end in sight.
Many of my friends who were paid firefighters and were assigned to the quite elite FDNY Rescue-3… were forced out due to the mandated experimental injection. Guys who survived the 9/11/2001 WTC attack and worked the pile of toxins for months without proper PPE. The EPA’s Christine Todd Wittman said the air was “ok”, so no respirators were supplied for WEEKS!
Now that many of those brave folk are coming down with odd illnesses and rare forms of cancer, the city and federal government are missing in action. But their public health tyrants made sure they had to be protected from SARS China-Coronavirus #19. Now they’re dealing with illness AND searching for a new job.
Thanks ..
Great video, thanks for the heads up sir. And a merry christmas to you and your family.
And to you and yours!
Protect pharmaceutical profits at all costs fda is only a policing unit for corporations, look at what fda did to organic foods to help corporations not Americans.
For those who add fish antibiotics to their preps, my online dealer sent an email saying the manufacturer (Midland Vet) was stopping production of antibiotics. I think this manufacturer made the Aqua brand. In the news, the FDA is going after 9 companies who supply fish antibiotics for OTC sales. They have to cease, or face legal issues.
The following companies received warning letters: (Dec 14th article)
American Aquarium Products
Aquanest Biotic
Aquarium Pharmacy LLC
California Veterinary Supply
Chewy Inc.
Kraft Drug
Midland Veterinary Services LLC
Silver Lease LLC
Valley Veterinary Clinic LTD
It is bad news. We put up an article too: www.doomandbloom.net/weve-lost-another-survival-tool/
And a video on this subject: ruclips.net/video/eoTefmhJar0/видео.html
thanks again doc. i think we all knew this day was coming though. gonna head to the site now. c u in the next one.
I guess it's about to come down to the shelf life and viability timeframe of the various meds available to us. I hate to buy a good stockpile only to have it go bad (or questionable) sitting in the cabinet or freezer before we need it.
Shelf Life Extension Program (SLEP) a joint test by DOD an CDC(if memory serves) a few years back on the hundreds of meds stored by the G'mnt testing the efficacy of same. amoxicillian showed 80% efficacy @25 months after expiration. Currently i am on day 6, and my bronchitis is 95% clear. amoxicillian dated 04/2018. Just saying...SHTF don;t toss it away.
@@captmike1272 "...don't toss it away." Completely agree. Thanks, Mike. Good imformation.
Here's my article: www.doomandbloom.net/straight-talk-about-expiration-dates/
@@DrBonesNurseAmy Thx!
DONT FREEZE!!
It’s 9 months out but I can still get everything I want (antibiotics wise still waiting to get some morphine or “good stuff”)!!!
I can still find cefalexin ciprofloxacin azithromycin doxycycline metronidazole fluconazole. Those are the good ones so it’s not effecting much???
New pneumonia coming from chy nah, lung nodules, no cough. Doc said treat with doxycycline. Is fish-doxy good?
Extremely informative. Thanks.
Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
You're the only person I've seen talking about this from a preparedness standpoint
Hitch, that's because I am not only a physician, but I have raised fish like tilapia in ponds, and have experience with administering both fish antibiotics and human antibiotics. I wrote the original article on fish antibiotics that appeared in Survivalblog, oh, about 14-15 years ago. Since then, it became a cottage industry for the preparedness community.
Yep. Thank you for this.
I think it's videos like this that brought attention to it and made the government take notice...
ya gotta love it when the Government is here to save you!😬
Good advice! And thanks for the heads-up.
The eye infx ointment is hard to get
Cats are going blind without vets huge fees n the $20 tube is prob $100 now
I had no idea they were cutting them off until I went to buy a new bottle from chewy
Thank you for the heads up. This is ridiculous.
thanks for sharing this. I missed Thomas Labs' products when they were pulled.
They had a three pack yesterday at fishmox. You might want to check it out.
@@butchie2752 Thanks for the tip. I'm one of those crazy preppers who have an absurd volume already. My biggest concern is shelf-life long term stability. I appreciate the info though! It's kind of you to take the time to share it. :)
@@PraxisPrepper antibiotics are the most important medical advance (maybe tied with X-rays and vaccines) in the last 100 years. In a true pepper event supplies will be exhausted almost instantly. The army tested their supplies a while ago and concluded they all worked for many years. Maybe not 100% but over 90. I got mine and instantly vacuum packed them. I also bought dr Alton’s book.
Even you end up not needing them yourself, second best barter item after ammo.
@@butchie2752 Great reply! You and I definitely see eye to eye on this. I have a literal crate of these things, and while I know it can't be a lifetime supply, it's a lot. I've looked a lot at the data that came out of that army study and have used it to aim more towards the meds and antibiotic options that have the longest proven shelf life. Some (like aspirin) can actually go toxic over time, so it's important to be precise with which meds have proven long-duration shelf life, and with may or may not, but it's not proven yet.
@@PraxisPrepper even the best prepper can’t reduce risk to zero. All we can do is take reasonable precautions and hope for the best. Although I think things are getting gloomier every day.
Thanks for the updates !
Thanks for the update.
Abolish the FDA
Well Europe is far ahead on this sadly... All antibiotics where I live is prescription-only.... Is there enything I can do about it in Europe? I don't know sadly :/
Thanks Dr. Alton
What is the rough estimated shelf life of these antibiotics?
Army studies concluded they lost about 20 percent effectiveness after 7 or 8 years. Still good but not as effective.
With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
except for certain types, I believe the cyclines (tetracycline, doxycycline etc) can be toxic after a certain amount of time. Do your research.
@@sirshade222 Yes! Tetracycline can cause liver failure if it’s degraded.
@@sirshade222 Although I don't recommend tetracycline, it should be noted that doxycycline received an emergency use authorization for expired products...www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/expiration-date-extensions-certain-lots-doxycycline-hyclate-capsules
Dang! It’s always something!
Glad I read your article on Su rvi valb log 15 years ago and got it cheap. It is far better to be 10 years too early rather than 1 day too late. Panic now, and beat the rush. Antibiotics will be worth more than their weight in gold because it can preserve life.
What’s the one or two top antibiotics dr bones would recommend to make sure to have in your medical kit? And which ones are safe for ppl allergic to penicillin?
you can likely go and search their home page.
He has excellent videos and a book on this. Very worthwhile.
here''s my article on which ones I prefer: www.doomandbloom.net/which-antibiotics-to-have-for-survival-settings/
@@DrBonesNurseAmy Thanks, I have bought some antibodics a couple of years ago but would like to get some more before they change the law.
@@gowest5145 how long should you keep antibiotics for after the expiry date?
Thanks Doc ! im way ahead of them
Thanks for another great video and update!
No more fish antibiotics now. They finally cut it off and i think it was definitely a bad call
Ended up here for the same reason, a few weeks ago, I could still find them. But now? Fat chance. Found one bottle for $17 on one website like 10 pages down Google. 🙃
I’ve been scammed by dambshop and aquarium nd pets
Aquarian nd pets sent something but it was mis sent April 29 and it’s not moving . I thought I’d try my luck finding some because I didn’t know about the ban . Everywhere is requiring a prescription . Wish I had known
Our government!
This is the Nazi 4th Reich.
Thank you, Dr. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas, Ambrose!
After reading Dr. Alatons first Survival Medicine Book I purchased several fish antibiotics but I could never find out how long they are good for past the expiration date. Does anyone know or advise specifically regarding fish antibiotics in the pill form?
Eden, here's my article on the topic: www.doomandbloom.net/straight-talk-about-expiration-dates/
@@DrBonesNurseAmy
Thank you Dr. Alton for your reply. I read your article before and have all 3 editions of your Survival Medicine Handbook. . I was just wondering does the extended viability information apply to fish anitbiotics as well? . Have a Happy Holiday!
NEVER throw them away!!!
Even 5 years past expiration, many are still over 80% effective if kept in a dry, cool place. So that'll be crucial to survival. Ideally stored in a controlled environment, they can last 20 years. Store the bottles factory sealed with some desiccant packets away from light in a cool spot in your home.
Dr. Is there a difference between the tablet and capsule in fish Antibiotics?
Some meds have to be given in capsule form due to taste ,like Cephalexin. It's never been available as a tablet. It has a sulfer taste. Also, some meds could burn the esophagus and mouth,so the capsule protects the mucus membranes. Capsules usually come with an oxygen inhibitor in the bottle, so they don't stick together, so they last longer in storage than dry pills.
The ones I've gotten are capsules so they can be opened and sprinkled in the aquarium. When I was treating actual fish, they were in a 5 gallon tank, whereas the capsule was for treating 10 gallons. It was easy to open the capsule and divide the powder inside in half.
This could also be useful when trying to divide doses for children or other pets. Pediatric doses are usually determined by body weight mg of medicine per kg of person. For that reason, I'd suggest capsule for the emergency kits also.
Anyone know how long they last after expiration? Do they need to be kept refrigerated? Thanks for any info .
They have videos on this.
@@Pamela-B OK I will look them up . Thank you
Some aren’t good after expiration
Need a good list
What works for a NOPEN guy?
Merry Xmas Dr Bones and Nurse Amy!!!
So am I hearing this right? Someone help me out all OTC Fish Antibiotics are gone in June 2023?
2:00 No
Today
Yes…they’re illegal starting today. There’s a huge list. War is coming and EMP’s are coming and millions will die without combat medical treatment.
I thot i read its the injectables, intramusculars and boluses that cant be sold. Nothing bout oral antibiotics
It ALL
No it’s not. I talked to the ones who sell the abt for birds, fish- those are not being banned. Can still get wo a script
Thank you!!
How long do these last shelf wise?!
If I am remembering correctly, A cool and dry environment will yield 90% efficacy after 10 years.
Mylar seal it with a desiccant pack, and stick in the back of your fridge (just don’t let it freeze!).
Are bird antibiotics the same as fish? Lately all some sites have in the way of Zithro is for birds, and even clicking on fish Zithro it take you to the product for birds.
Some are, but a majority of them are not.
Ty Dr. For this update!
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