Been waiting to see a comment like this so I could go back to enjoying Gnomemonkey. Love his content but how cocky he was about his HCIM makes it not worth investing the time. Just my personal opinion but I think his viewers deserve a bit more respect than to just Leroy Jenkins everything when you’re knowingly experiencing lag lmao. Gl moving forward Gnomemonkey just a little constructive criticism no hate.
Yeah i was using this since it released. But its places like this that make me not give a shit about the complaints people make about our updates. Theres always gonna be hidden gems in updates and barely anyone will know about them until a content creator finds it
@@mclovinjdtrelax, Varlamore also has tons of sand crab spots so there will be plenty of options on the island. You also have other non-aggressive monsters in the cave so you can still get the resource free training without the AFK aspect. Varlamore is gonna be really good for leagues regardless of how many people know about naguas and the 4 crab spawn spot
Got 95 Str and 90 Att/Def here before swapping to Slayer on my GIM. Got enough chaos runes in drops to fund my whole 5 mans furies. I'm surprised its taken someone so long to make a vid on em!
@@cameroncurtis7261 moons have a mechanic where the 1st hit = all 3 hits hit. so having defense is very imporant. prossy is basically addy armour, v bad.
Devine combat, restores, goad pots, no looting, standing in the middle & intense clicking to never stop hitting maxing XP, I was getting 190k xp n hour 😅 95k looting everything but tin & copper (still better than nmz), 140k-150k looting just essence. Got my 2nd 99 att!!!🎉 so glad I saw this video 😊 95 to 99 made about 3.5m but only looted 1.2m. Full blood, the dual machs, ammy of rancore, prims, blessing, ferocious gloves, berserker ring (i). Lost my firecape the day before in wildly or it’d be in there 😢😂
for lower levels & average gear: they drain prayer every 5 attacks - making it less afk until str/attk ~ 75 . at which point you'll kill them quick enough to stop this from proccing
Made an ironman about 2 months ago. Got the sulphur blades drop super early. I’m about base 70 melee stats across. I get about 90k+ exp/hr there. Literally the hidden gem for mid game ironman looking for melee combat exp
@@Steven-hq3go true. I will say that these are obvs more involving, but still minimal effort. Crabs are 100% afk for about 40-45k exp/hr at my level(70s). These naguas are over double that exp AND they have good drops! I’ve killed so many I have a stack of 10k chaos runes chillin in my bank. Plus this gave me enough coal and ores to jumpstart my giants foundry grind.
@@Steven-hq3go what are your levels/gear? you might not be killing them in 5 attacks, where they then proc prayer drain. if you can kill them quick enough its way more wortha
@@Steven-hq3go yeah i think the vid kind of ignores the reason you do nmz/crabs which is the afk. if you want ez combat xp theyre adding a lot of stuff like scurrius is very good xp/hr if u have low lvl gear
100k+ cballs from 70-90 melees here as well if you hate BF shop, 200k if you buy the rest of the coal. Combined with chaos+death rune drops it's a nice setup for slayer
Tried some early naguas on my iron and it's busted. However sand crabs still got a place for hard afking. With 60 prayer i got less than 4 minutes of afk before id have to sip again. While sandcrabs are 8 minutes and they wont kill you if you clean your apartment for too long. So naguas for active training and sand crabs for hard afk
The only reason to do NMZ is on UIM where you can fully refund the points to store the now not imbued item. Of course you got scrolls from arena, but the scroll is given back upon refund instead of points that don't take up an inventory slot.
as someone who did this 92-99 str (because I'm a degen) I can confirm; full moon, zerk, firecape, tort, fero gloves. 145k/hr without using piety. just prot melee.
Surprised it took people so long to realise these guys are good, I've been doing sulpher naguas since the release of pmoons, and I got the sulpher blades on 25kc, and rocked them for like 10k+ kills lol
Damn, i was about to go nmz to get my last 2 attack levels and youtube recommended me this video lol. Guess i'm questing and changing location then instead of going nmz.
I will say, these are almost always packed with at least 2-3 different players. Though, the same can be said for chinning/barraging Manicial Monkeys and that’s still not a huge huge issue. Grind on Boys!
It’s a really great training spot although I don’t see much people at. I did like 500 perilous moons and I barely saw anyone there every time I pass through this area even when I switched worlds lol. Every time I did, 90% of them were ironmen.
forgot to mention you can catch moonlight moths at the other spot to the left and extend your prayer for even longer, i believe they can also be tick manipulated to instantly catch them if you pass the hunter check
But nmz you can afk 20 mins. This is much faster but per attention time I still prefer nmz, especially cause you can look at it whenever you please and the 25 min just resets.
Every time I hear the background music for some reason, I think im a goat who worships demons and sacrifices the followers of my cult to the demons, so I gain magic powers and more followers in return who work for me on my farm.
@@GnomonkeyRS I tested it out (not for an hour tbf, will try that later for fun). Exp rates seemed horrendous, was taking like 20 seconds to kill one of them lol. But that makes sense for an account build that has at most level 7 attack, usually just level 1 attack. Will def be using the method on main though, so ty for the video regardless!
So many people will still do Sand Crabs despite everything going for Nagas solely just because they don’t have to do the 1 minute prep at the very start for making potions lol 😂
@@Petplayzzhe’s not wrong they are similar in a way but the macuahuitl hit twice and can be enhanced by the armor set. Are you irritable because you’re constipated?
This doesn't kill crabs (or nmz which i actually like more than crabs once you have the quests done). Just like any other thing in the game, more attention equates to more xp, but sometimes i only wanna click every 10 minutes to reset aggro.
The only "bonus" is a 15% increase to you max hit, otherwise the armor mechanic is explained in the video & applies to all weapons. Sulpher Blades are the equal to a d-scim, so the boppers are better by a lot.
honestly on an ironman the early herb levels are easy, cuz you should be able to dump lamps till like 70 herb+, if u need 55 herb just go do some diaries, or certain quests.
you forgot to mention that this area has no risk of running into scary zygomites
I didn’t realize the sulfurous essence disappears if you teleport out of there, and I had enough for 10k runecraft xp -_-
Oh no!!
@@GnomonkeyRS I was heated bruh, never making that mistake again
As punishment you will do 500000 lava runes to 99 to make up for the loss
I did 😂 @@Slabfish
@@Slabfishgot 1.3m lavas
We did it. We bullied him into stop being risky! Stay humble bud.
Been waiting to see a comment like this so I could go back to enjoying Gnomemonkey. Love his content but how cocky he was about his HCIM makes it not worth investing the time. Just my personal opinion but I think his viewers deserve a bit more respect than to just Leroy Jenkins everything when you’re knowingly experiencing lag lmao. Gl moving forward Gnomemonkey just a little constructive criticism no hate.
I owe you nothing and you are never entitled to tell me how to play MY characters.
Forreal, let him play how he wants to play. If you guys truly liked his content you would support him in whatever he chooses to do.
@@GnomonkeyRS You owe me a plate of nachos. Hop to it.
@@tomfoolery14no one asked
gnolunkey you ruined my training spot now my wife left me
Find new wife who is willing to train agility and thieving on your alt
Sit
Yeah i was using this since it released. But its places like this that make me not give a shit about the complaints people make about our updates. Theres always gonna be hidden gems in updates and barely anyone will know about them until a content creator finds it
this info gonna be good for the new leagues 100%
Except every world will be full
QUIT TELLING PEOPLE! I was hoping this would fly under the radar and I’d have no competition
@@mclovinjdtrelax, Varlamore also has tons of sand crab spots so there will be plenty of options on the island. You also have other non-aggressive monsters in the cave so you can still get the resource free training without the AFK aspect. Varlamore is gonna be really good for leagues regardless of how many people know about naguas and the 4 crab spawn spot
@@mclovinjdt People were doing this in DMM. It was already fairly well-known.
@@mclovinjdt You don't need to train anything afk in leasgues because the xp is too fast anyway
Got 95 Str and 90 Att/Def here before swapping to Slayer on my GIM. Got enough chaos runes in drops to fund my whole 5 mans furies. I'm surprised its taken someone so long to make a vid on em!
Sulphur Naguas are so good. Can't believe more people aren't at them
You don't actually need to finish the quest by the way, you just need to complete it up to where you can enter the area.
yurp, I couldn't beat blood moon with proselyte and low combats but by god could I kill 3 thousand naguas
@@cameroncurtis7261 why would u wear proselyte smh
@@cameroncurtis7261 moons have a mechanic where the 1st hit = all 3 hits hit. so having defense is very imporant. prossy is basically addy armour, v bad.
Wear your best tank gear, not Proselyte @@cameroncurtis7261
Devine combat, restores, goad pots, no looting, standing in the middle & intense clicking to never stop hitting maxing XP, I was getting 190k xp n hour 😅 95k looting everything but tin & copper (still better than nmz), 140k-150k looting just essence. Got my 2nd 99 att!!!🎉 so glad I saw this video 😊 95 to 99 made about 3.5m but only looted 1.2m. Full blood, the dual machs, ammy of rancore, prims, blessing, ferocious gloves, berserker ring (i). Lost my firecape the day before in wildly or it’d be in there 😢😂
Keep in mind you don't need to complete the quest, i was training on these guys well before i did the bosses of the quest.
for lower levels & average gear:
they drain prayer every 5 attacks - making it less afk until str/attk ~ 75 . at which point you'll kill them quick enough to stop this from proccing
You don't have to kill all the moons. I stopped the quest way before that and farmed 1500 of those.
Made an ironman about 2 months ago. Got the sulphur blades drop super early. I’m about base 70 melee stats across. I get about 90k+ exp/hr there. Literally the hidden gem for mid game ironman looking for melee combat exp
It's okay but you have to keep repotting where as crabs are 10 mins AFK no clicking.
@@Steven-hq3go true. I will say that these are obvs more involving, but still minimal effort.
Crabs are 100% afk for about 40-45k exp/hr at my level(70s).
These naguas are over double that exp AND they have good drops! I’ve killed so many I have a stack of 10k chaos runes chillin in my bank. Plus this gave me enough coal and ores to jumpstart my giants foundry grind.
@@Steven-hq3go what are your levels/gear? you might not be killing them in 5 attacks, where they then proc prayer drain. if you can kill them quick enough its way more wortha
@@Steven-hq3go yeah i think the vid kind of ignores the reason you do nmz/crabs which is the afk.
if you want ez combat xp theyre adding a lot of stuff like scurrius is very good xp/hr if u have low lvl gear
babe wake up new gnomuskey
How did I miss that you plugin-swapped the name to BOPPERS
100k+ cballs from 70-90 melees here as well if you hate BF shop, 200k if you buy the rest of the coal. Combined with chaos+death rune drops it's a nice setup for slayer
Huey drops HELLA cannonballs right now in small teams. Highly suggest that instead of handmaking them
55 Herblore is completely free now that legends quests gives 120,000 Herblore XP. So insane.
You can also catch the moths for prayer restore so you use less potions for prayer and more for stats.
I don't like and comment often.. this deserved one. Well done, thanks for the method
Tried some early naguas on my iron and it's busted. However sand crabs still got a place for hard afking. With 60 prayer i got less than 4 minutes of afk before id have to sip again. While sandcrabs are 8 minutes and they wont kill you if you clean your apartment for too long. So naguas for active training and sand crabs for hard afk
I trained these from base 60s to base 80s while working, they're goated
The only reason to do NMZ is on UIM where you can fully refund the points to store the now not imbued item.
Of course you got scrolls from arena, but the scroll is given back upon refund instead of points that don't take up an inventory slot.
Who cares though
Pest Control is also over 200k xp/h at high lvls and with hard combat achievements. Surprised most players still don't know that either.
I've been going here to train combat since release, they're SO good
This dungeon came out and these things were how I got my stats for Moons
bro is on that merch money mindset releasing this same day after huey came out
as someone who did this 92-99 str (because I'm a degen) I can confirm; full moon, zerk, firecape, tort, fero gloves. 145k/hr without using piety. just prot melee.
Surprised it took people so long to realise these guys are good, I've been doing sulpher naguas since the release of pmoons, and I got the sulpher blades on 25kc, and rocked them for like 10k+ kills lol
God this gets me in the mood to start boppin em
Glad to see the blood moon armor/weapon have good uses. I hope the other ones get uses lol
Damn, i was about to go nmz to get my last 2 attack levels and youtube recommended me this video lol.
Guess i'm questing and changing location then instead of going nmz.
I will say, these are almost always packed with at least 2-3 different players. Though, the same can be said for chinning/barraging Manicial Monkeys and that’s still not a huge huge issue.
Grind on Boys!
It’s a really great training spot although I don’t see much people at. I did like 500 perilous moons and I barely saw anyone there every time I pass through this area even when I switched worlds lol. Every time I did, 90% of them were ironmen.
Great video Gnomonkey
Tier 1 prayers are worth and don't really affect drain rate with melee protect
when you've been training here for two weeks prior to this vid on your iron man lmao got to catch up sir gnome!
I know, I'm washed!
One weakness of this spot compared to NMZ is you can't afk for as long. Nmz allows for 10 mins afk
I did 1600 kills there to get sulphur blades and I couldn't believe I didn't see one other person there.
CRABS BETTER(stop pushing my method into the spotlight 😭😭)
Is this better than any Ursine Chainmace method? I can see it being more relaxed.
You dont need to kill the moons before you can do it, you only need it to turn in the runecraft xp
When I tested this for my video, i found a maxed account can get over 200k xp/hr
Haven’t seen it listed in the comments but you will at some point need to imbue a salve at NMZ for Ardy Elite so there’s still one reason to do NMZ
I mentioned that in the video once you get points you're free
@@GnomonkeyRS must've missed it, to be fair I watched at like 3am in a half-comatose state lul
@@CaelenSawyers you can imbue it with pvp arena scroll. You dont even have to be a pk'er to get it, theres tuts on yt. its easy to get and skip nmz.
8 more damage is essentially 16 more max hit. which is crazy indeed
I got my def pure to sulphur naguas and its decent xp because of that increased damage.
i wonder if they’ll ever make a multicombat area for them
i have crabs
What’s the soul wars boosting clan that was mentioned?
I think the sw boosting cc is ‘zeal gains’ or ‘zealgains’
@@davidbraudis2058 yeah that sounds familiar from even rs3. Thanks!
True im sold, wery good sales pitch!
thanks for making it hard to find a spot
Only downside is those boppers are fairly high stat requirement, haha. Guess ima use d mace till I get Sulphur blades from em
I wondered why after doing this for 3 weeks it was suddenly crowded af
Wht about frost nagguas??
Idk about xp but I made 400k gp an hr.
50 runecrafting exp per essence my brotha
Thanks for blowing the price of Boppers through the roof
Huey did that, not this lol
@@GnomonkeyRS lol I didn’t know that, bc I was about to buy them at low then I seen your video but I figured I’d give you the comment anyway. Cheers
forgot to mention you can catch moonlight moths at the other spot to the left and extend your prayer for even longer,
i believe they can also be tick manipulated to instantly catch them if you pass the hunter check
This content is Jagex begging people to stop doing crabs
But nmz you can afk 20 mins. This is much faster but per attention time I still prefer nmz, especially cause you can look at it whenever you please and the 25 min just resets.
Did they remove the passive bonus from Sulphur Blades?
I couldve swore that Sulphur Blades gained a passive 15% damage and accuracy vs Naguas
Before we know about armour as a mechanic, that was the speculation about why weapons hit Naguas harder, but it was always just the armour
@@StormKidProductions Ahhhhh gotcha
Why cant I find this Boppers in G.E or even at osrs wiki? How do I get those?
Oh just found out. Why they named Boppers in your inv. ?????
camped these a few months back. was getting about 110k melee exp/h with early mid ish iron setup
Every time I hear the background music for some reason, I think im a goat who worships demons and sacrifices the followers of my cult to the demons, so I gain magic powers and more followers in return who work for me on my farm.
Same
@@GnomonkeyRS Hahahahah
I hope you understand the context and don't think I'm some paycho hahah
I think everyone on the Internet is a psycho LOL
Not sure if this would work better than crabs for an obby mauler. Do you have any insight on this?
Is that a pure build? Probably not. You want a double hitting weapon
@@GnomonkeyRS It is yeah, 1 attack 99 strength 1-20 def. Makes sense, ty for the response!
You could test it out, I just have never messed with pure stuff. It might be good!
@@GnomonkeyRS I tested it out (not for an hour tbf, will try that later for fun).
Exp rates seemed horrendous, was taking like 20 seconds to kill one of them lol. But that makes sense for an account build that has at most level 7 attack, usually just level 1 attack.
Will def be using the method on main though, so ty for the video regardless!
NMZ really is good for the ring imbues though
So many people will still do Sand Crabs despite everything going for Nagas solely just because they don’t have to do the 1 minute prep at the very start for making potions lol 😂
And you don’t die if you AFK too hard. Just get logged and can reset in 10 secs
How do I get the plugin to turn my maraccas into boppers?
Reword Manager plugin
No wonder my spot has been busy lately... I have killed 25k and gotten 90 smiting on my iron from this lol
If you dont want to get these nerfed dont call it “stupid op” “broken” etc this is really COMPETITIVE
You think RuneScape is making balance decisions based on hyperbolic RUclips titles?
I hate nightmare zone so I'ma be camping this for my last 8 att/def levels
Would this work well with torag hammers too?
I mentioned using them halfway through. Yes they work, but you should go to Frost Naguas or do Moons to get better. They aren't great.
i am at sand crabs or nmz for the afk and still gives me like 70-80k/h :D
Thanks for crowding my worlds now haha
What is that clan for Soul Wars??
You look like a fusion between Ben Shapiro, Sheldon Cooper and the guy that does the food reviews... nice
Thanks, I think
That was quick
How do you do the range chin method at cox?
You train ranged at MM2 caves
Have 100m and pay someone to set it up for you lol
You set up the Mystics like you're doing a 3+12, spec the one you destack so you can chin the 0 def one and go br.
@@GnomonkeyRS would b a cool vid I saw method on one of westham bronze man ep
Sounds more complicated than just chinning maniacal monkeys
Please do not ever get fat, you're such a handsome yung man
Weird af
If I'm correct this is some very culty music
true and real
Yea i knew this before sulfur blades dropped below 3 mill.
i feel you're slow on this but glad you're covering the method
The advantage of NMZ is that it's not competitive for a spot unlike these
I was at naguas every day for a week and didn't see a single other person training there lol
I've yet to run into another player while doing this on and off stream
@@GnomonkeyRS I just hopped 80 worlds and didn't find a single one available.
Maracas is like budget bludgeon
its not a budget bludgeon - its completely different. do you not understand what was said in the vid?
@@Petplayzzhe’s not wrong they are similar in a way but the macuahuitl hit twice and can be enhanced by the armor set. Are you irritable because you’re constipated?
they are not maracs, call them dual macs at least
i had no idea about the sulphur for runecraft exp.... ty
Do I need to be a certain combat level to come?
Just enough to use a dual weapon and start the quest
@@GnomonkeyRS appreciate ya.
fuck, these are going to be packed now
was already covered on the 2007 subreddit. I think it has high enough reqs to keep most botters and goldfarmers out
God now my training spot is ruined
Add in goading potions and sheeeeesh
....and you say they should nerf Mixed Hide armor 😅
Welp Gnome just turned these into vyrewatch's gg
Vyres are botted for shard
These don't have a very valuable drop, so would just be botted for stats
what plugin renames the dual macs to boppers?
Reword Manager
Torag’s hammers forever bad 😭
I almsot want you to take this down because of how good it is, dont want them going anywhere 😂
yeah nah im not getting 120k an hour
this man is the new woox and im here for it
Post scurrius moment
Crazy
This doesn't kill crabs (or nmz which i actually like more than crabs once you have the quests done). Just like any other thing in the game, more attention equates to more xp, but sometimes i only wanna click every 10 minutes to reset aggro.
Sulpher blades have a bonus roll on damage to those guys, too. So they're - I think - BIS for that training method.
Macas are better. But blades are quite good
The only "bonus" is a 15% increase to you max hit, otherwise the armor mechanic is explained in the video & applies to all weapons. Sulpher Blades are the equal to a d-scim, so the boppers are better by a lot.
honestly on an ironman the early herb levels are easy, cuz you should be able to dump lamps till like 70 herb+, if u need 55 herb just go do some diaries, or certain quests.
Rip
now the spot is too full
Why you gotta give away the spots. Lol crabs are highly congested. I dont need this place being the same.