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Let the baby develop in their own time! Learning is not just environmental, the baby just wasn't at the stage to learn object permanence, and your shouting and breaking things was negative reinforcement. So chill. Maybe thats something *you* need to learn.
my psychology professor always used his daughter to demonstrate human development! :) there was a time when he offered her a cookie as a snack, but she demanded two. All he had to do was break the cookie in half behind her back and she was satisfied with her "two" cookies.
Super late but I used to do something similar when I was little. A lot of Mexican restaurants use two tortillas when making tacos to make sure they hold together. For some reason, my child mind came up with the ingenious idea to carefully peel the tortillas apart and split the ingredients to double my tacos. Even as a young adult, I still sometimes catch myself doing it as a weird habit, despite knowing better.
@@illy-noiz Splitting the food isn't completely the same. Taste often doesn't depend on the quantity of food. You can enjoy the taste the same with small bites or finner slices.
agree. I'm thinking it's related to attention and memory. Perhaps little babies don't have a LTM, so if they are attracted by other things, they will forget the thing they are doing.
I thought that myself, he seemed to retain an interest in where he last saw the cucumbers but it seemed to me like he couldn’t figure out how to pick up and remove the coconut
Frei you have to stop playing with my mind here. Okay, well at first I saw the Cucumber in your hand... Next thing I know there is half a coconut there. Now I told myself "That cant be right, the Cucumber was just in his hand!" next thing I know you are pulling the Cucumber from out of the baby's ear! How that thing got there in the first place is a mystery of the world. Truly a top tier magician at his finest. 10/10. Wow.
I think the baby learned "my daddy can pull cucumbers out of my ear" more than anything. When in school, And the teacher asks " where do vegetables come from?, the response could be interesting.
Dude imagine for a baby the day they figure out object permanence. It's probably the biggest mind blowing moment for anyone in their lives and none of us even get to remember it 😢
You can do it by putting it under sheet of cloth or paper that looks similar to the surface of the table and the baby will instantly lose interest in wherever it went. The baby's interest just focuses on the texture and shape of the coconut shell as soon as the cucumber ceases to exist.
Snagabott and Jingle Jungle... yes, there are many possibilities: impossibility of handle the coconut, distraction... it would be necessary to repeat using a sheet, for instancce.
Piaget aside, what you're _really_ doing is Pavlovian training and your baby will associate cucumber with the tongue-click "pop" sound you make every time you pretend to pull a cucumber slice from his ear. The dubious looks the woman gives at 0:19 and 1:37 crack me up.
I'll be using this in my developmental psych class this morning. This is hilarious and extremely cute! The only thing I would change is that the infant does not experience the cucumber disappearing because that would imply object permanence. The object simply is "not."
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@@VivaFrei Thanks, I am actually using this as an example video for a developmental psychology homework assignment and so the age will help me better explain the example!
I mean, after the kid figured it out....you smashed the coconut on the floor, didn’t give the baby a positive response to actually completing the task..........then made the baby do it again. Can you imagine how chaotic that whole part was for the baby As it sat there not caring at all eating his snacks lmao
This is honestly so cool to see. Obviously we don't rmeember this time in our lives when we didn't have object permanence yet. That said, it's so crazy to watch how at that age we have absolutely no concept or understanding that the object is still there lol. As adults it seems so obvious. It is interesting to wonder if this is a latent ability we naturally develop overtime. Or if it's a skill we have to learn
There are few problems here. First you wrote that babies learn object permanence at 18 months. NO, you can see it at 8 months, and in some experiments even before. Also, after putting the coconut on the table you distract the baby with your load voices and hand waving, so even if he had some thought about the lost cucumber, you distract it from that. And last, it is very difficult for the baby to pick up that coconut, so we don't know whether he is trying to do it or not.
Informative and funny, I used this video as an example for my Child Psychology class. I also liked that you did a follow-up video, I linked both for my final project.
Children can actually learn object permanence much earlier than 18 months. It seems clear to me that this child knew where the cucumbers were, unfortunately, he did not have the fine motor skills to lift the coconut up! My 10 month old daughter knew about object permanence at 8 months old. Every child develops differently, BUT again, object permanence happens before 18 months old for most babies.
LMAO... my developmental psych teacher sent us a link for this and i'm thinking "why is this guy so familiar?" then realized that it was Viva Frei and I just watched you on Timcast! So random...
this is very cute and very educational thanks for posting this really helps me in my psych 101 class. I had to observe and do this same experiment. Object permanence
I think what the guy behind the video was saying is correct. For Ethan once the cucumber was taken away from his sight it stopped existing in his thought process or maybe its just that the cucumber wasn't that much of a stimulating object, you should have tried it with something you know is his favourite object.
The scariest part is in 13 years ago there are studies that 10% of U.S. high school graduates doesn't have this skill and potentially injured themselves on the job because of it. I found because of this video ruclips.net/video/ssjokgx0pUQ/видео.html
The baby knows they're under the cucumber. But she does not know how to lift it. a correct experiment would give baby a way to lift the coconut easily.
Not sure how old the child is, but your "pulling the cucumber from behind the ear" stunt and generally your fast movement right in front of the babies face might have confused him(?). Also he(?) seems to be distracted by the feel of the hairy coconut and the general fuzz around in the kitchen. If you had used a more familiar feeling cup to hide the cucumber, done the whole thing a bit slower and a little further away (moving the cup into his reach after hiding) so he can clearly see what you're doing and be in a more quiet environment, your results might have been different. Basic object permanence should be developed in infants as young as 8 months (not 18). More difficult tasks (a-not-b error) take a while longer.
Haha Dad needs to take a leaf from the baby, observe more. Babies copy everything, you held the coconut shell and hid the cucumber with one hand, so naturally baby tried to remove coconut with one hand, but obviously due to tiny weak hands that doesn't work properly, could only grab the hairs. if you used to hands to hold the coconut, baby would have, plus you were moving too fast for most of it. but got there in the end gg
Baby did not understand the task because your instructions were verbal. Give the visual instruction by taking off the coconut shell and eating cucumber.
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Let the baby develop in their own time! Learning is not just environmental, the baby just wasn't at the stage to learn object permanence, and your shouting and breaking things was negative reinforcement. So chill.
Maybe thats something *you* need to learn.
my psychology professor always used his daughter to demonstrate human development! :) there was a time when he offered her a cookie as a snack, but she demanded two. All he had to do was break the cookie in half behind her back and she was satisfied with her "two" cookies.
Madison Lindberg that's really funny. But I know some adults that are the same way ;-)
Super late but I used to do something similar when I was little. A lot of Mexican restaurants use two tortillas when making tacos to make sure they hold together. For some reason, my child mind came up with the ingenious idea to carefully peel the tortillas apart and split the ingredients to double my tacos. Even as a young adult, I still sometimes catch myself doing it as a weird habit, despite knowing better.
@@illy-noiz Splitting the food isn't completely the same. Taste often doesn't depend on the quantity of food. You can enjoy the taste the same with small bites or finner slices.
if she can ask for 2 cookies, she probably knows half a cookie as well
Omg that’s adorable 😂
It seems like the baby was trying to pick up the coconut, but he kept getting distracted and confused by the hair on the coconut.
agree. I'm thinking it's related to attention and memory. Perhaps little babies don't have a LTM, so if they are attracted by other things, they will forget the thing they are doing.
Right? Maybe like a regular bowl 🍲
Exactly the point
Stoners can relate lol
I thought that myself, he seemed to retain an interest in where he last saw the cucumbers but it seemed to me like he couldn’t figure out how to pick up and remove the coconut
Frei you have to stop playing with my mind here. Okay, well at first I saw the Cucumber in your hand... Next thing I know there is half a coconut there. Now I told myself "That cant be right, the Cucumber was just in his hand!" next thing I know you are pulling the Cucumber from out of the baby's ear! How that thing got there in the first place is a mystery of the world. Truly a top tier magician at his finest. 10/10. Wow.
I like you too, Frei. Keep up the great videos my friend.
From looking at your channel statistics as well you are seeing very steady and solid growth which makes me so happy! Congrats man!
When you're conducting a super serious and groundbreaking experiment but you patient is the funniest cutest baby
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I think the baby learned "my daddy can pull cucumbers out of my ear" more than anything. When in school, And the teacher asks " where do vegetables come from?, the response could be interesting.
Dude imagine for a baby the day they figure out object permanence. It's probably the biggest mind blowing moment for anyone in their lives and none of us even get to remember it 😢
Am I the only one who thought he actually had a hunch? The problem seemed to be that he didn't know how to lift it.
You can do it by putting it under sheet of cloth or paper that looks similar to the surface of the table and the baby will instantly lose interest in wherever it went. The baby's interest just focuses on the texture and shape of the coconut shell as soon as the cucumber ceases to exist.
Did consider that possibilty, especially in the last tries but he truly was distracted by coconut skin.. & it's threads
I think it was both he didn't know how to lift the thing and it was a really distracting cover.
Snagabott exactly. Stupid dad.
Snagabott and Jingle Jungle... yes, there are many possibilities: impossibility of handle the coconut, distraction... it would be necessary to repeat using a sheet, for instancce.
"Marian! I'm gonna be published in the neuroscience! " ironically not a sentence from n adult lol!
Silly Daddy. Baby is wise to you and is training you into adding a whole lot more "treats".
I used this for my child development course discussion on Piaget and Sensorimotor stages and everyone loved it! Thank you.
Bit late to the party but I love how the older daughter comes in and she's looking at the coconut and baby and she's somewhat amused by it all.
3:24 I cheered so loud its 3 in the morning I'm pretty sure I woke someone up
Haha! Object permanence is so fun to watch. You know what comes next, right? Violation of expectations. Even better. :)
Sarah Johnston looking it up right now! :-)
It's actually the other way around! Violation of expectations happens some months before object permanence is acquired :p
The moment he lifted the coconut husk i seriously heard the 2001 soundtrack xD
Cool experiment and a cool little dude!
Piaget aside, what you're _really_ doing is Pavlovian training and your baby will associate cucumber with the tongue-click "pop" sound you make every time you pretend to pull a cucumber slice from his ear.
The dubious looks the woman gives at 0:19 and 1:37 crack me up.
I'll be using this in my developmental psych class this morning. This is hilarious and extremely cute! The only thing I would change is that the infant does not experience the cucumber disappearing because that would imply object permanence. The object simply is "not."
Awesome, thank you very much! Feel free to plug my channel ;) And if you want to get a good laugh from your class, tell them to subscribe to PewDiePie! They will certainly appreciate the joke :-) ✌️
@@VivaFrei How old is the kid in this video?
Natalie Kalos he was eight months old in the video :-) give or take…
@@VivaFrei Thanks, I am actually using this as an example video for a developmental psychology homework assignment and so the age will help me better explain the example!
Natalie Kalos awesome! Make sure to tell your class to subscribe to my channel! 😂
Yelling at the baby "where is the cucumber?" lmfao.
But I wonder, if things stop existing when they are out of sight then why do young babies cry for their parents when they can’t see them?
maybe just things disappear to them, not people
because the baby literally thinks your gone forever.... they do not know you will come back
Plot twist: turns out the cucumber was actually not under the coconut and its an optical illusion
I mean, after the kid figured it out....you smashed the coconut on the floor, didn’t give the baby a positive response to actually completing the task..........then made the baby do it again. Can you imagine how chaotic that whole part was for the baby As it sat there not caring at all eating his snacks lmao
NOTE: object permanence appears at about 8 months (although some research suggests there are precursors as early as 3 months), not 18 months. :)
How old was he when the experiment was done?
This is honestly so cool to see. Obviously we don't rmeember this time in our lives when we didn't have object permanence yet. That said, it's so crazy to watch how at that age we have absolutely no concept or understanding that the object is still there lol. As adults it seems so obvious. It is interesting to wonder if this is a latent ability we naturally develop overtime. Or if it's a skill we have to learn
Baby: _Reaches for the coconut shell_
Me: _Yesss, getting warmer...._
Baby: *_eats the shell_*
You are what a father should be: interacting with baby.
I still confused where the cucumber is.
"FIND THE CUCUMBER!" Lol!
There are few problems here. First you wrote that babies learn object permanence at 18 months. NO, you can see it at 8 months, and in some experiments even before. Also, after putting the coconut on the table you distract the baby with your load voices and hand waving, so even if he had some thought about the lost cucumber, you distract it from that. And last, it is very difficult for the baby to pick up that coconut, so we don't know whether he is trying to do it or not.
Informative and funny, I used this video as an example for my Child Psychology class. I also liked that you did a follow-up video, I linked both for my final project.
"Merriam! I am going to be published in the neuroscience!"
"Curse you wizard taunting me with cucumbers only to make them vanish"
A very cute yet educational video. Thanks for sharing. I'd like to use it for teaching ..
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Psych class brought me here. Also why do I feel like this could be a Big Bang Theory scene 😂
Goin' for the science win!!!
Children can actually learn object permanence much earlier than 18 months. It seems clear to me that this child knew where the cucumbers were, unfortunately, he did not have the fine motor skills to lift the coconut up! My 10 month old daughter knew about object permanence at 8 months old. Every child develops differently, BUT again, object permanence happens before 18 months old for most babies.
Ok so cucumber come from ears. Fascinating
I hate babies with a passion and this was adorable and hilarious 😂❤️
Dad "Where is the cucumber?"
Baby Touches Coconut shell
Repeats 6 times.
When dad is a psych nerd and has a few too many 'coconut waters'.
Kinds felt like the poor kid just didn't know how to lift the coconut.
Once he figured out it was under the coconut should have tried same experiment to see if they would continually go directly under coconut
Easy going baby... 1. Begins to quite cry after soooooo many times the cucumber desapears 2. Looking for... a cucumber!
Baby clearly knows the cucumber is under the shell, but can't figure how to lift the shell.
This was indeed funny and informative 10/10
LMAO... my developmental psych teacher sent us a link for this and i'm thinking "why is this guy so familiar?" then realized that it was Viva Frei and I just watched you on Timcast! So random...
this is very cute and very educational thanks for posting this really helps me in my psych 101 class. I had to observe and do this same experiment. Object permanence
THE BABY IS ADORABLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm using this in 5 minutes to teach my class about object permanence! Did you ever get published? :) Thanks a lot!
I think what the guy behind the video was saying is correct. For Ethan once the cucumber was taken away from his sight it stopped existing in his thought process or maybe its just that the cucumber wasn't that much of a stimulating object, you should have tried it with something you know is his favourite object.
He did want the cucumber when it was in front of him
So this is how Viva treats people in a deposition.
great video i was laughing the whole time and the concept did stick in my brain better tysm cute baby
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It starts as science... after the "n" repetition it becomes torture...
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Video ended. What is this cucumber-seeking baby you're all talking about?
How old was your baby during the time this was filmed?
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this baby is an absolute wizard
when he hit himself with the puppet omg hahahaha
I think it's worthy of note that Viva has at least one kid who likes to munch on cucumbers.
THE NUMBERS MASON. WHAT DO THEY MEAN
The scariest part is in 13 years ago there are studies that 10% of U.S. high school graduates doesn't have this skill and potentially injured themselves on the job because of it.
I found because of this video ruclips.net/video/ssjokgx0pUQ/видео.html
How old was your baby in this video?
The baby knows they're under the cucumber. But she does not know how to lift it.
a correct experiment would give baby a way to lift the coconut easily.
Didn’t t published in neuroscience but my Ap psychology class lmao
Babies are just little drunk people 😂
All people forced to watch this in quarantine, raise your thumb
Not sure how old the child is, but your "pulling the cucumber from behind the ear" stunt and generally your fast movement right in front of the babies face might have confused him(?). Also he(?) seems to be distracted by the feel of the hairy coconut and the general fuzz around in the kitchen. If you had used a more familiar feeling cup to hide the cucumber, done the whole thing a bit slower and a little further away (moving the cup into his reach after hiding) so he can clearly see what you're doing and be in a more quiet environment, your results might have been different. Basic object permanence should be developed in infants as young as 8 months (not 18). More difficult tasks (a-not-b error) take a while longer.
it's not fair you used a very distracting object to hide it under
At the request of more than one, I will recreate under more controlled circumstances :)
grow up.
Is it bad that this baby has better object permanence than me
🎶...put the cuke in the coconut and eat it all up...🎶 😏😂
I would've gotten it wrong too. Too fast. Yaaaaaaaayyy!
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@@conceptsinpsychology1257 So kind! Thank you! That is fascinating!
Good job :) responsible parent
Thnq for this video... i didnt get it after reading the theory..but ur video helped.
ım coming from the yale video "5. What Is It Like to Be a Baby: The Development of Thought
" and wow
Haha Dad needs to take a leaf from the baby, observe more. Babies copy everything, you held the coconut shell and hid the cucumber with one hand, so naturally baby tried to remove coconut with one hand, but obviously due to tiny weak hands that doesn't work properly, could only grab the hairs. if you used to hands to hold the coconut, baby would have, plus you were moving too fast for most of it. but got there in the end gg
Why do I feel that dad is bullying the baby?
Coool ...I was this dumb once too
That shirt should say "My Dad is a Super Douche".
I don’t think that would sell...
@@VivaFrei
I know. Truth never sells.
Baby did not understand the task because your instructions were verbal. Give the visual instruction by taking off the coconut shell and eating cucumber.
*Laughs* ,hold on!
In my opinion the cucumber is under the coconut
no, it clearly stopped existing :/
breaking coconuts is good luck
Frei, you're a great father to your children, so patient and loving. I was watching another RUclips video where a North Korean female officer defector was reacting to loving American dads. I thought to myself, Frei is Canadian. Anyways, I thought you might like the fact that your appearance in the video starts at the 3:07 time, ruclips.net/video/HrX16K4xzus/видео.html
Great family
You were so mean when you had short hair!
So close, yet so far.
Your wife seems pleasant.
How old was the child?
léa pesce baby age
That was so funny 😂😂😂
Love it
*THEY'RE LEARNING*
My 20 year old friend doesn’t understand this concept
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Short Attention Span Theatre.
such a cute baby
That's amazing lmao
maybe, he can be a einstein in the future ha? :) who knows?
Why is Lucifer teaching a baby object permanence
help with the cooking
Be there shortly...
So cute 🥰🥰🐱🥰
I'm very annoyed with u daddy....the baby deserves their cucumber 😤😤😤