The lead UI designer of windows is litterally an Indian auntie who proudly talks about how she never used a computer before in her life before working at Microsoft.
I did NOT highlight this problem, but THIS is going to the apocalypse AI code that does NOT work, it works in the short term, but does not work across large projects.
@micaiahstevens It's been exposed that AI spams a bunch of junk code into what it writes. Essentially it seems to just keep inserting lines until something works. Which means when these AI-designed programs break, it takes a horrible amount of review (by a human being) to dig through all the junk code to figure out what is actually doing anything and which part of it is causing the problem.
I just watched a keynote by Meredith Whittaker on how integration of AI agents is basically the end of any level of privacy, could you elaborate on what is taking pictures and storing it? Thank god I'm not using w11
@Chud-Tungsten The amount of people that vehemently argue against any pro privacy discussions makes me sick to my stomach. You will never NOT see the guy that is going "I have nothing to hide" or "it's too late they already have all your info and don't care about you", etc. They don't "tolerate" it, they spread their cheeks... They actually have no clue they are why we get shit products/services like W11. There is some good momentum going against big tech right now, but ultimately my opinion is that all of this BS will absolutely become the norm in relatively short time. It used to be a slower burn, but these last ~5 years have turned the world upside down.
I actually worked at Microsoft back in the day (admin job). They just made their employees beta test everything. I guess I at least was getting paid to suffer the beta Office suite 😂
It is doing great! Just as great as the other companies tgat are doing the same because microsoft does it and they have to fight for the leadership position in AI innovation! A dirt poor companies competing with a. Multi trillion company that FAILED but since they do it the others have to as well! This is the mentality of the IT companies these days
this is so stupid, companies not giving their customers what they want. Reminds me of apple not adding navigation buttons to be "edgy and different" Its so stupid.
For me it was onedrive replacing the local home folder with no consent and no way to disable. I will remain livid about this, probably forever. Absolutely unacceptable.
Have you tried using O&O shut up 10/11? It has a way to force neuter one drive. It might take back your folder. I am not sure, I don't have Microcrap 11. Use at own risk.
This is extremely annoying Instead of making things better they just keep ruining things that actually work. If they just left everything alone the way it was in Windows 10 and focused on nothing other than fixing bugs it would be a much better product right now.
Bazzite is as simple as it gets. It is way simpler than windows. It runs games better than windows. Just make the jump. Some laptops may have compatibility issues but that is pretty much all …check your model and 20 minutes later windows is gone.
@bowlock9901not "ms is cooked" part but steamos for dummies. There are linux for "dummies" yet that's hard for normies. Ppl don't wanna learn, they just want a convenient time with the device. That's tough to get with even the easiest distro
This reminds me of when they were scared by Netscape about 30 years ago and decided that they would take their browser Internet Explorer, which should be a separate program run under the aegis of the operating system, and integrate it into Windows. This shattered the already weak security of the OS and created massive holes for hackers to exploit. They were rumored to have done it to make it impossible for anti-trust actions to split Microsoft into two separate companies with one getting the OS and the other getting the browser and internet stuff. Whenever lawyers or investment bankers become de facto system architects, everything goes to hell for the actual users of your software.
+1 for windows 10 iot ltsc But only for critical software sake (we need it for medical imaging devices, xray sensors) Everyone else is happy with linux mint
It’s not about wanting Microsoft to suffer. It’s about the fact that they really deserve to lose market share. I can’t say whether it was back in Windows 7 or XP that was the last time it really had something streamlined, but it’s been nothing but decay and aggravation ever since
@endersgameover It deserves to go bankrupt. They've been known for shady business practices for decades, but at the very least they would deliver a decent product every once in a while. Now not only they are NOT doing that, but they also pull the plugs on decent things they did have and break their already horrendous newer products. And, again, NOT ONLY THAT, but they also are ran by complete degenerates. Like, what reason does it really have to exist? Utility, convenience, morality - all of it is in the negatives.
I will always cackle about the time I ran Malwarebytes on my Windows 7 laptop, and it flagged the Windows 10 installer as malware. I figured, if the company that devotes all their attention to finding and removing harmful software says Windows 10 is a critical threat, they're probably right. There is no way DumpsterFire 11 is ever coming anywhere near my PC. And M$ doubling down on cramming their shitty "AI" into everything has made me double down on my decision.
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one in had issue with was it bit lock my drive that has the OS couldnt put up system right thankfully had a usb with windows 11 on it to un-bit lock it to even fix it
As a software engineer for almost half of my life, I can tell ya one thing: until Microsoft FULLY reverses their AI code assistance policies and rehires all the engineers it has fired throughout these last years, nothing they say will actually change stuff, they're still cooked. They said recently: "1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code". Do you know how much a skilled and PRACTICAL engineer produces per day? 500 to 1000 lines of code per day max, and that's when you're actively working on stuff. Programmers usually only actively work on code for a part of their month. Depends on the company and the type of tasks, but let's say you're an absolute beast and are producing 1000 LoC/day for 60% of the month, let's say 14 working days (not counting the weekends, the holidays and some of the more administrative/devops/etc. tasks), that's still 14k lines/month. And they were saying 1 million lines/month. How? Goddamn AI. They're rewriting entire products and major systems from scratch with AI. Replacing strong human-made code with AI garbage. And they've already laid off like what, 100k employees due to AI by now? This is only going to get worse, and they don't have any easy ways to course-correct because they've fired actual skilled engineers. TL;DR: expect the enshittification on Windows to continue for a while. Valve/opensource still have the time to make Linux actually habitable for ordinary users.
500-1000 lines of code per day *max* is a slight exaggeration. Yeah, on a normal day, a developer would probably touch maybe up to 100 lines of functional code, but there are real examples where you would write more than that. I think my record is about 4000 lines in a day (working from a partial specification, implementing a new protocol from scratch). I actually ran stats for a recent hobby project I did, I was making it for just over 3 months, not every day but close enough. The project, excluding tests is 17KLOC, which yeah, works out to roughly 200 line additions (net) per day. These counts are excluding stuff like tests which could easily blow past that, but that code does not end up on the users' machines.
@animowany111 I completely agree, that's why I said "skilled and practical" engineer. Those senior devs who do a lot of work quickly. Me personally, even when I'm actively working on a task, a median would probably also be 100-200 LoC per day, because you also need to test it, make sure it works, maybe even optimize it a bit, etc. 500-1000 is very serious and pretty rare type of output, and I went there specifically to be the most charitable I can be towards MS. Realistically, outputting even more than 10k lines per month is pretty nuts for even a seasoned dev. So yeah, the real picture is even worse, of course. I was just trying to be nice :D
microsoft stock price nearly tripled in 2023 when they announced the AI partnership and Co-pilot. The recent drop isn't even close to the gained it did with AI. As with any publicly traded business, unless this amount is undone Ai decision is still considered a win to every C-suite personnel. So it is very unlikely for them to even consider this.
@ab-yd8jk The point is not that they've already lost everything. The point is that they're trending down, and hard. And they're clearly backtracking on some of their dumbest decisions already. So no, I firmly believe that they know AI is going to shit. Otherwise they wouldn't be proselytizing and literally begging people to not call AI slop and not talk about it negatively. It's not even just the Microslop CEO, it's Nvidia as well. So no, I think they know what's going on and they're afraid. The fact that they still haven't lost everything doesn't change that.
With every problem I encounter on Linux, I'm pleasantly surprised how minor and easy the fix is. Less confusing and convoluted UI is the biggest win. And it's just snappier
I switched to Mint two weeks ago and I'm actually baffled by how smooth and easy the experience had been. Won't be long before I won't even dual boot anymore.
yes, the main issue is that copilot is pushed down peoples throat to please the investors, same with the "edge install numbers". The "edge install numbers" comes from every person who install windows 10/11 and its due to that its a forced install, most users remove edge when they reach the desktop or never use it at all
Win10 was quite acceptable. Has been more stable than 7 for me. Especially dying graphics driver didn't brought down the whole system for me in W10, which did happened for me in 7.
I'm still pissy about the forced migration to 10 in order to keep using programs I had been using on 7 for years. I'll be rebuilding my entire systems if they try the same thing with Win11. Not touching that idiocy for anything.
@NexuJin yeah Windows 10 turned out to be good after years of updates and I expect Windows 11 to follow suit but their peaks will forever be lower than 7 despite the advancement of technology
I’m someone who considers myself tech-literate, but by no means tech savvy. I’ve never been the type of person to dive into advanced features. I’m a millennial who has spent my ENTIRE LIFE using Microsoft, apple, and Google. So I never IN A MILLION YEARS imagined myself using Linux. But I’m so mad at big tech in general that I’ve already started researching Linux and plan on switching in the next couple of months. Between turning EVERYTHING into a subscription, the ever increasing spyware/data harvesting to sell, and shoving AI down our throats whether we want it or not (I DO NOT), I’m just done. Big tech has accumulated way too much power, and has been abusing it to screw us over. So I’m getting over the intimidation, learning what I can, and if I run into problems, internet search still exists (I’ve already stopped using Google, Chrome, and am in the process of switching to Proton for email). I haven’t even run into any of the tech problems, I’ve just hit my breaking point with their BS. So I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one, and that things are on,y going to get better and better for Linux users.
Great post! I am at where you are in the process, but am a baby boomer who has used MS during my entire career. Win 11 is the last straw for me, esp the spying. When I return from my travels next week I will be buying a new laptop (current one is 12 yo) and will take the linux plunge (Mint or Zorin).
Posts like this make me smile a little. The circumstances suck, but it gives me a chance to be a little beacon of light. I know it can feel intimidating, but I can assure you that it will be much easier to swap than you realize. My experience has been that the only stuff you really need to focus on is the peripherals like capture cards and other things that need software/drivers. Open source variants are not always available and they are going to be the biggest thing to hold you back. The other is anti cheat for games. I took the plunge after a generally horrible experience with windows 10. I got tired of my PC doing stuff I didn't ask it to among other things. This was around when proton was gaining some steam (pun intended) and one day without any real prep I just installed linux mint. It has been an incredible experience feeling like my PC is mine again, so I hope you can find a place where you can get that satisfaction too. Lastly, there are a lot of jerks out there that are going to act high and mighty and give us linux folk a bad name as you ask questions. Just remember that there are also a lot of people like me that want to see you succeed. Linux is a fragmented space, so it can be hard to get answers specifically for your setup, but there are quite a few people that will do what they can to assist you.
I would highly, highly suggest Mint. It's 99% GUI based, and pretty much every windows app like Office and Powerpoint has some alternative on the software store (I forgot what its called). I think it took me barely an hour to install it on my laptop using a USB drive.
Already have getting security updates up to October and security software ends in January built a new system to beat big price rises coming Linux all the way. Still need Windows for several programs I need occasionally and paid for lifetime use but only turn on machine couple of times a week. Never happier.
When I request code from CoPilot less than 1% works...that goes up to maybe 5% by the time Copilot gives up and completely cuts off new prompts on the same thread. Every time I need to contact support they're just sending me copy/paste of Copilot generated PowerShell code, which NEVER works. That they're using this on their core infrastructure and operating system is scary. Hell, Copilot tends to be better with FortiOS commands than it is with Microsoft's own code!
The minute SteamOS goes platform independent and can support Office I'm making the switch. I work in IT (server admi), I hate going home and futzing with my computer after doing it at work 8-10 hours
Gotta try Cachy-OS. It's built off the same distro as steam with gaming tweaks in mind. It also features further proton improvements. Or bazzite for an even simpler os. You can also use proton without steamOS. Main issue is still just a handful of games with anti cheat that don't support Linux but that's becoming less and less of a problem.
@TechnoSpice i don't think steamos or linux will ever support MS Office. Either alternative or just use windows. And i think SteamOS being gaming device focused, might not be great as a daily driving OS. Better to use a general Linux with gaming tools and patches, something like bazzite/fedora/nobara etc
Nobody should be waiting for SteamOS. There are already plenty of easy options available such as Bazzite and CachyOS. And to be honest any distro can game perfectly fine.
I just got home from buying a flash drive to create a Linux Mint installer when I see this posted. Why am I trying Linux for the first time in 15 years? Holy shit is Windows 11 terrible.
@timriggs08 I did it 3 weeks ago. Linux Mint has been awesome. I got tired of Microsoft's intrusion, forced updates, tons of unnecessary shenanigans, exausting system resources, built in advertising... Linux is a bliss. And refreshing. It's nice to have fun using my pc again.
Mint's pretty good. I switched back in September and have yet to regret it. Yes, not EVERYTHING from windoze works flawlessly on my Linux box. NO, I don't miss Windows. I still have to use that pile of hazardous waste at work. Where Edge freezes at random multiple times a day, the whole system bogs down multiple times a day. Hell, just starting it up pegs the CPU near 100% for almost a solid minute while it....IDK does "stuff". Teams is garbage, Office in general is trash. Microslop is still a company for the same exact reason that AT&T is still a company. They got their hooks into the U.S. Gov't early on and have been entrenched so deeply now that they will *NEVER* die...which makes me sad.
It's great to hear that you're doing well financially, despite the economic challenges. Your success is a testament to your financial knowledge, smart decisions, and resilience. But how do you manage to consistently earn that amount? Is it through trading, investing, or another venture?
I'm celebrating 130k stock EFT portfolio today, I started this journey with 16k, I'm glad people are finally getting to stock EFT, I'm currently on a $130k I'm willing to buy more stock, I'll invest in other stock's
Can I ask something honest? How did you all start getting steady returns? I've been trying on my own for years, but my results are all over the place. I'd love to retire earlier, but I need more structure.
When people ignore market cycles and inflation, emotions take over. Securing $20,000 in passive income you haven't just earned money; you’ve built a system that works independently of your labor, which is the ultimate hedge against a devaluing currency..
If you are able you can use wine and such and male the software work in a alternative system, most functions is locally based in those software solutions so it should work with 99% of all software. Or you can use linux and use one virtual machine with windows installed, no leaking of info and no issues. Its a clean no fuzz virtual windows system after all
@lokelaufeyson9931mhm and you can choose to emulate win10 win 8.1 win 8 or win 7 depending on what your application has compatibility with and save on vm resources
@lokelaufeyson9931I can, but I won’t, to be honest. For work I want all the apps to be native and official. Otherwise the risk is too big and there is no explanation or excuse later for me. Unfortunately that’s the loop to break on the apps side, cause the more native apps we have - the more people can move to Linux.
"This is one of the largest companies on earth. One of the most resourced companies on earth. How has (their product) been so shit for so long?" Literally can drop that line onto any industry leader. Too big to fail is a real thing.
Pretty much. Businesses get to a size then lobby government; usually government is run by people who do not understand the business, or worse, are themselves technocrats and you have walled gardens. It's actually more prevalent in the EU than the US, but India and China very aggressively do the same. It's a fascinating thing to do a PhD on.
Not just the power users. Just watched a video by Fstoppers where he unboxes a macbook air and a surface laptop for the same price. It took him like 40 minutes to get into the OS on the surface and it took 7 reboots with updates before it was usable. Insane how they can release something in that state.
A couple of years ago I built a quite powerful desktop machine and installed Windows 10 from a recently created install media. It took *8 hours* of downloading updates, installing them, rebooting etc before it was actually usable. Then I had to de-bloat it. Recently I built a similar spec desktop & installed Linux Mint. It took 15 minutes to install and update the OS, and then I spent 10 minutes adding a new wallpaper, theme, & icon set, plus installing a few favourite apps. Job done.
Work got me a Surface laptop and they weren’t even able to set it up without an external keyboard and mouse as the device MS sells doesn’t have its drivers available in install. It’s crazy.
I encountered a bug on windows 11 when trying to install on a new build I put together this week when it kept saying I didnt meet the minimum specs when I do. Spent hours trying to sort it. In the end just used Mint and was up and running inside of a few minutes. MS literally forcing people off the OS with their ineptitude.
would be hilarious if you got a virtualbox with windows 11 and it worked with basically no settings changes in bios lmao. ...then installed 11 superlite over it.
I tried it on a live USB on my laptop, and then I installed it. I was dual booting to try it out on my 2023 HP laptop -- Linux starts up in 5 seconds, Windows 15 seconds.
I just installed it on a laptop in the house as a test. None of my family has had an issue using it vs windows. Gonna work on switching everything else over.
I recommend looking into KDE Plasma, especially if you consider yourself a power user. I went through a few desktop environments around a year ago and Cinnamon felt dated and pain to customize.
They have to justify the level of expense they have laid out participating in the AI wars. They just forced Co-Pilot onto all their Windows 11 + Office users and can now go to the board and say "Look! AI use has increased to hundreds of millions of users!". It's dodgy as fuck and will fail.
Well once they renamed MS Office (best name ever for an office suite) to Microsoft 365 Copilot App (how cringe can you get?), the adoption of copilot instantly jumped up by millions or 10s of millions. Success!
What's frustrating me is that I have to keep re-signing into Windows each and everytime. It never keeps me logged in so every time I have to relog in, I ask customer service and they say it's supposed to keep me logged in, so no help there. It's the small things that really piss me off.
I know that is a joke, but it is a good point. Bethesda hides problems under the map instead of disabling them. That wastes resources. Resources that are now immensely expensive. 16gb of ram is more than enough for medium use, yet Windows guards and hogs the ram and by extension wastes CPU power not recycling it. To put it another way, it is like running “Killer Drills” in BasketBall. Going back and forth for no reason when you could just go in a straight line less distance. Your computer doesnt need to build muscle, so wasting latency is pointless and expensive.
To add context, from a software developer with a process background who has done swarming before: "Swarming" is not some technical process. It's a panic response by management that means exactly what it sounds like - throwing warm bodies at the problem in ever-increasing numbers, even hiring more if need be. The reason it's a panic response and not what companies do all the time is that... well, it's not super efficient, and despite what it may seem like, it's not altogether that fast. There's certainly such a thing as understaffing, but there are also only so many things that can be worked on at the same time (parallelization) before diminishing returns kicks in and each additional engineer gets you less added value than the last one you added. Worse, some problems are hidden until others are fixed, and no amount of extra warm bodies will get to work on those before they're discovered. To put it another way, if there are only two people working at your local fast food restaurant, that's probably not enough. If there are 200 people working there, then that's way too many. Parking is now a nightmare and most of them have nothing to do, meaning they produce nothing even if they have an excellent work ethic and polished skills. And none of this is accounting for time spent training or switching contexts or coordinating the new teams or communication glut and noise or any of a dozen other problems that come with managing a team that's suddenly much bigger or changing focus. The only advantage swarming actually has is that it's better than doing nothing at all. It's what you do when leadership is out of ideas. And that's a scary time for the company.
And it gets worse with software development, because the new bodies won't have the knowledge base to know what they're doing, while rushing stuff leads to code that isn't set up to be maintained. Which causes future issues, both in needing more time to do work in the future and having more work to do in said future, as the code isn't as "future-proofed"... it'll have issues because the goal isn't to write code properly now, but rather, to deal with X now, allowing issue Y to happen.
Microsoft man-year: If a project is estimated to take one man-year, order 365 employees to come in on Sunday and complete the job in a day. Enhanced Microsoft man-year: but them all pizza. From Papa Johns.
Also prioritising bugs in corpo usually means that management mandates 20-30-50% of the dev time to be spent on fixing bugs, and imposes bug fixing quotas. This paired with unchanged deadlines for projects, and additiona status meetings about said initiative leads to creative accounting to meet the quota, and has oposite effect. I lived it personally. When we were given quota and had to explain when we missed it. We started stockpiling easy bugs on a side so we can quickly meet the quota on the next period and focus on work, we would avoid any difficult bugs and stopped merging duplicates and would close multiple issues with one fix.
6:11 I can indeed call myself fortunate I haven't experienced these problems. Mostly because when I bought my new desktop PC I made 200% sure it came with the less bad Windows 10 instead (then subscribed to extended support and configured my system to never prompt me to downgrade to 11 inasmuch as possible).
Considering they made over 30 billion in profit and beat revenue and earnings expectations, nearly everyone would be okay with having that train wreck of billions in profits
When they added copilot to notepad I hit the send feedback button and was like you guys have completely lost the plot. I guess enough other people did the same thing.
How about most of the items you use in right click like delete, post, paste, name change they make users us another click to reach those choices. Who is responsible for that stupid move?
Windows is so annoying to use, so many little annoyances, that I asked my work for a Linux laptop and actually received it. System administration on Windows is a GIANT pain
Windows is so bad that every single office i have ever worked at or heard of uses it. Excel. Until an OS comes up with a better version of it (don’t see how), windows will remain the leader.
@joel6513 Microsoft already took care of that with Excel Online. Yes, Excel Macros don't work, but those are supposed to become Office Script (which is really just TypeScript) anyway. My point was that even in enterprise, the power users are moving. 75% of my department uses macbooks, and those are NOT cheap. Guess it pays to be in cybersecurity.
@joel6513there are a dozen or so functionally identical, open source, Linux native spreadsheet applications that have all the functionality of excell, with some having unique additional features you might find interesting to fiddle with. It takes a bit to get used to doing the same thing, slightly differently, but it can be worth it.
@johntownPSN Really. The operating system where every time the "open file" dialog opens, and I scroll down, it inevitably scrolls up after a second or so in the sidebar because something loaded is better than a Mac. The operating system that had three different bad updates the last three months, that desecrated paint and notepad, that is forcing copilot and edge on us, and web search into the start menu, that has seven different design languages in the same OS, that needs to run a Linux VM just so developers can work with it somewhat, that consumes more RAM than Chrome at this point, THAT operating system is better than macOS?
Not really. Windows was on a collision course with its own bloat for a long time. Microsoft just accelerated it by focusing on AI features that no one wanted -- not even people who use AI, because Copilot sucks ass.
Hardly the first sign, almost very tech company has borrowed and invested a fortune in AI and it's not making them any money. Smart people have already dumped AI stocks ages ago, OpenAI is about to go bust. We're in for another fun financial crash predicted sometime between now and 2032, but at least they will stop shoving it in our faces all the time.
I own a gaming laptop that has crashed so hard 4 times I had to reinstall the operating system, 3 times out of which could be backtracked to Windows creating needless issues and random software updates and unfortunately, as much as I hate to use it, I need it for my projects. So yeah, I'm surprised that they actually admitted the OS is causing issues, but I'm not amused at all.
Windows works pretty well if you install it OEM. (At least through 10. Haven't installed 11 on my gaming rig, and I never will.) It may be Windows itself that's shafting you, but I'd put a bit of money on it being the shitware and drivers etc from whoever built your laptop. 😕
@Archangelm127 granted that it *is* an Acer Nitro, i would say yeah... they have some pretty bad bloat on the laptop but a lot of this was after i installed fresh, i guess i don't exactly know why some things work and some things don't and no, Win11 works horrible just in general even if you install OEM. i guess i just hate the software 😭
@OzzlyOsborne unfortunately i also game pretty often and a lot of my games are EA-based (i play a ton of need for speed and apex). don't think a VM would cut it 😩
Mint is great! I'm familiar with Fedora & other distros - but I love Mint as it's friendly and capable. I'm sure it will evolve to become a more windows/mac like experience, drawing in more people.
@Simon_Rafferty mint is the best easy to learn how to use linux, familiar but still linux in the way it works and you handle it. The linux versions that look like windows too much is ok i guess but its not the best choice if you want to learn and get used to how linux works and how you handle it. The level you choose is personal, some use it very shallow aka surfing the web, check mail and such while other go deeper.. but they all use the same linux system.
@lokelaufeyson9931 Thanks - I've been using Unix / Linux since 1988. I still think Mint is one of the most user friendly & easy to learn - even if it does look a bit like Windows.
@Simon_Rafferty yes it does, it look like the old win98 but more "fresh" if you use the XFCE UI but the core is still the core that can do a million things at the same time
Linux is free but you pay for it with your time. The amount of time I spent searching forums to find out why things are freezing/crashing on linux mint made me just settle with Windows 11 LTSC.
@Grovelaar what gives you that impression? If you're talking based on personal experience - please do share it, Linux users are a community and tend to help people who struggle to make the switch.
@Grovelaar I switched a few weeks ago and so far it's been great. I was planning a gradual transition, but within a couple days I found myself not launching windows unless I specifically need to, doing everything I need to at once, and switching back to Linux as soon as I can. I'm curious why you say this as it doesn't reflect my experience at all.
@Harry-n7p6p Which programs or features were you having issues with? Other than one audio driver issue that I resolved a couple days later, my transition has been pretty seamless and I've yet to run into any software problems. The amount of time I lost to figuring stuff out has literally already been made up for with just how much faster my downloads are on Linux.
I switched back to arch. FF14 / XIV Launcher works great, PoE2 Works great, Steam Works Great, Digimon Time Stranger works great. Last Epoch works great. Pokemon Infinite Fusion works great when launchen through Proton. Idk, I have everything I need. Its just fine 🤷
@behudanoob4867 Not true. Devs didn't port their games to steam OS and yet they "just work". Valve will figure out the compatibility layer for AC or they will just PAY developers to port to steam OS. Either way, it will get done.
@cyberbuilds101 valve did as they could. There are games with eac/battleye that work well on limux. But devs of games like gta online/apex disabled the limux option deliberately. Valve cannot just keep giving money as a ln incentive if devs can disable support anytime(apex).
All the major anti-cheats already work with Linux. Game devs have to specifically configure them to not work with Linux. This problem has already been solved on a technical level. You don't need kernel level access to detect and stop cheats.
@cyberbuilds101 Anticheat is a piece of software that is intentionally designed to detect tampering with the system. And SteamOS/Proton/other compatibility layers definitely count as tampering - these aren't plain Windows. So unless the anticheat itself accepts SteamOS and Proton, any attempt to trick it would be an arms race in the best case (and sudden ban waves in the worst case). You would have to work *against* the anticheat, and any possible ban waves would be a devastating PR. So Valve is doing a correct strategy here - they provide tools to AC vendors, but unless they cooperate, Valve isn't trying to bypass or spoof these anticheats.
Switched to Linux Mint last October. Not painless. But frankly no more pain than I'd have got with Windows and now it works its just staying working. Which is nice.
I've also been daily driving mint for a good while now and while it does have its things, there's lots of documentation and fixes everywhere not like with windows where you might see a 2 year old post on their forums with no answers and some Microsoft person just giving basic troubleshooting that does nothing
Switched over last week. Only used Linux for my projects that needed servers, so the barrier to entry was significantly lower for me. I will say, if there is one thing AI is good for, its finding commands to run for whatever problem I have. They are language models, and these short commands are in english. Take advantage of its one practical use.
Man. Everything stutters, services taking insane amount resources in the background at random points, updates in the background taking up all ssd usage, same updates failing after half an hour, and restarting the process. Yesterday I actually rolled back to windows 10. This week I had about 10 hours to playtime, half of that was killed by things I just mentioned above.
@chillecharlie I use CachyOS and highly recommend it. It's my favorite of the Arch-based distros that I've worked with. Garuda offers some compelling versions, as well.
I’ve been a software engineer for 25+ years, mostly on windows development, I moved over to Mac OS and Linux 2 years ago and don’t touch windows anymore. it’s a mess and only going to get worse as they push out engineers for ai generated slop code. I don’t even think about microslop as a company anymore. You can do 99.99% of tasks with the other platforms and you get to be in control of your computer. Especially Linux.
Yep, ditched Windows for Mac since their ARM chips released. Linux for the home servers. Still got a Windows 10 PC I turn on once a month or so for games, but that's about it. The sooner PC games' reliance on Windows dies, the better.
The only thing keeping Micro$oft above 60% are those office computers in all the offices. Companies with users only using word, outlook, excel and similar programs feels like the bulk of windows installations...
@frankiebegbie no, you are spectacularly wrong. WIndows machines make up the majority of every single end user device in a majority of organisations. Don't delude yourself
@stationsixtyseven67 false, our computers are still fucked by that stupid update that causes computers to not boot. It's screwed up things from adobe saving to onedrive, to infinite "please wait" after a reboot, to not shutting down. 1% means 5000 computers, there's 50 people that I need to reload...
I could NOT find how to open Word , last night! The icon was GONE. My girlfriend tapped where it used to be and it appeared only then under the cursor.??
On Linux you are never forced to upgrade ever. It notifies you and if check the package manager in the GUI or using the terminal commands (either updates the system and software apps), but it will never force you to run an update. You remain in control with Linux. Don't let all the distros confuse you, Ubuntu or Kubuntu are good starting points for a new user, and KDE is more like Windows which Kubuntu which is Ununtu with KDE desktop environment with more of a traditional Windows 7 type layout, and other distros that use KDE use, and Gnome is a little different, but watch reviews of them and pick one for beginners, Linux Mint is a popular option too, as is Ubuntu, Kubuntu and others.
3:31 "to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don't make sense." So it they don't make sense, then why where they added in the first place? Seems like a severe lack of leadership to me.
Because they need to pump the numbers for AI adoption to justify the expense in that part of the company. People using AI-enhanced Notepad counts as people using AI.
@herrdingenz6295 There's something even more insidious about the push to reprogramming everything in Rust, it's that Rust is under the MIT license so if everything is built in Rust the free software movement is dead and global corporations regain full control over tech software and hardware
i work as an IT consultant for basically everything microsoft. i too want to walk away if it wasn't my job. I am constantly trying to manually fix their issues... and yet, i havn't "upgraded" to windows 11 from 10.
@TheDogtag2336 I hold on as long as possible, I skipped 8 and all its iterations entirely, now planning to do the same with 11. If they don’t release something new instead of 11 I’ll have a field day with regedit and delete every auto update ai telemetry popup bullshit like I did with 10. I miss 7…
@OidHunter glad you like it! personally i just don't know what my next step should be. I am working simi as a developer aswell for powershell and C# and finding it interresting, but what would you recommend
Depending on what you do with your PC, there is no reason to not switch to Linux. If you just want to use a browser, do a bit of office work with LibreOffice and Steam gaming, well then there is no reason to use Windows.
They shouldn't ended 10 when its 40 percent of the user base. Windows 11 is a lemon, they should go ahead with 12. I have serious doubts about 12 though.
@Dat_Jonx I would disagree. My old windows 10 box worked. I have yet to touch a system with Windows 11 on it that functioned completely correctly. I work in IT....this should explain that statement. 😀
Windows 11 is the modern day Windows 8. Windows 8, which had a decent OS underneath, forced a combined tablet and desktop UI that was optimized for neither. MS thought is had the next great thing and forced it's "vision" on everyone. It turned out to be a big turd, so bad that they skipped Windows 9 and went straight to Windows 10. Windows 11, which likely has a decent OS underneath, none the less decided that AI was the next great thing, bet big on the technology spending way too much money, then had to force AI into the UI because of finances (sunken cost fallacy), the once again forcing their "vision" onto everyone. It also turned out to be big turd, so bad that it will possibly kill Windows, or at least severely harm the MS reputation, which is now derisively called Microslop. So we had Balmer for Windows 8, and Satya for Windows 11. Maybe jump straight Windows 13?
They won't switch to Linux until Linux stops being a pain in the ass to work with on hardware the Linux community doesn't overwhelmingly love without a PhD in compsci.
@nukebirb That really depends on the hardware. I get that kernel and OS development can look a bit arcane but one really doesn't need to have "a PhD in CompSci" for that topic. So tell me: What hardware are you talking about?
Too Little too Late. People are already switching to Linux. If you want them back, you will have to WIN them back, and that will be immensely difficult. If you are lucky, people will choose Windows on their next hardware refresh, in 2027 and 2028. IF you improve and are lucky. Get ready for more pain Microsoft, you are just at the start of this hell you created. Put all hands on deck on fixing Windows, Cut every single data mining process, and dump Co-Pilot and keep your promise not to keep backdooring apps. You will not get that trust back in 2026. We need at least 12 months of probation.
I hope you and the upvoters of your comment realise Windows 10 will never stop working. It will just become more and more exposed to security issues as flaws/exploits are no longer fixed. The software you use (eg a browser) will eventually simply refuse to update / install on windows 10 and tell you to upgrade the OS. Of course you can try staying on old versions of software too, but you are now even more exposed to security issues. I moved to Linux (mint) from windows 10 and have never looked back 2 years ago.
Don't wait! I moved from Windows 7 to Linux and I've never regretted it for a second. At least when I hit problems on Linux, it's my fault and fully under my control, not Microsoft just deciding to seize control of things.
As a couple people have commented, it is a lot better to make the plunge now rather than leave an unsupported OS on your machine. One of the best things about linux is you can set up a live boot usb stick and try the various distros without installing them, and when you make a choice you can use that same usb stick to install. You can even keep windows as a dual boot setup if you don't want to discard a lifeline of sorts, but ultimately you're better off not waiting for many reasons. If you do make the swap, there will be plenty of people like me that want to see you succeed.
"30% of our code is written by AI", yeah, we definitely can tell.
The lead UI designer of windows is litterally an Indian auntie who proudly talks about how she never used a computer before in her life before working at Microsoft.
@honkhonk8009no wonder its ass with less customization than windows 10
Also feels like at most 30% of the code was reviewed and tested before release
At this point its more Macroslop
that explains everything
Microsoft has turned "30% of our code is written by AI" into users switching to Linux.
I did NOT highlight this problem, but THIS is going to the apocalypse AI code that does NOT work, it works in the short term, but does not work across large projects.
Credit where credit's due, Windows's abysmal performance proves 30% of their code is written by AI, if not more.
And some Linux distros are not heeding the warning and are desperate to follow suit. 🤦♂️
@micaiahstevens It's been exposed that AI spams a bunch of junk code into what it writes. Essentially it seems to just keep inserting lines until something works. Which means when these AI-designed programs break, it takes a horrible amount of review (by a human being) to dig through all the junk code to figure out what is actually doing anything and which part of it is causing the problem.
You mean Microslop, an Agentic OS.
They actually thought people want literal spyware taking pictures of your screen and storing it.
no, simply they thought they COULD get away with it, now they will go to think what they CAN get away with
I just watched a keynote by Meredith Whittaker on how integration of AI agents is basically the end of any level of privacy, could you elaborate on what is taking pictures and storing it? Thank god I'm not using w11
@Chud-Tungsten The amount of people that vehemently argue against any pro privacy discussions makes me sick to my stomach. You will never NOT see the guy that is going "I have nothing to hide" or "it's too late they already have all your info and don't care about you", etc. They don't "tolerate" it, they spread their cheeks...
They actually have no clue they are why we get shit products/services like W11. There is some good momentum going against big tech right now, but ultimately my opinion is that all of this BS will absolutely become the norm in relatively short time. It used to be a slower burn, but these last ~5 years have turned the world upside down.
@Sebruzz feel like you just have to trust jesus these days regarding everything
I really wonder about Satya and the entire MS leadership. How can one be this tone deaf? Or is it just arrogance? Maybe both?
I can't even screenshot normally anymore. It stopped saving to my screenshot folder and only copies to the clipboard now
That was how screenshotting has always worked, the save to folder stuff is new. And of course broken as hell
@mattymerr701 it worked for over three years. It only now suddenly stopped working a few weeks ago
I'm so old I recall Beta testing being voluntary.
Not only is it mandatory now, people pay money to test half baked, broken software. Steam early access anyone?
I remember that as well.
This. Bravo.
I actually worked at Microsoft back in the day (admin job). They just made their employees beta test everything. I guess I at least was getting paid to suffer the beta Office suite 😂
its called early access now
Hows that AI code going Microslop?
It is doing great! Just as great as the other companies tgat are doing the same because microsoft does it and they have to fight for the leadership position in AI innovation! A dirt poor companies competing with a. Multi trillion company that FAILED but since they do it the others have to as well! This is the mentality of the IT companies these days
So great that they've upgraded to Macroslop.
@frikabg the hive mind mentality exists EVERYWHERE. Its almost as if humans are competing with insectoid type thinking.
The slop thickens
@maklame3318 pop 8b creates more issue
"We did everything dirty to f*ck with our costumers and now they are mad?"
Who could have seen that coming?
*suprised pikachu face*
costumers. lmao
@AlphaMachina kettle
take notes youtube
same case as ubisoft, they think they know better than their customer and miss every mark
😲
this is so stupid, companies not giving their customers what they want. Reminds me of apple not adding navigation buttons to be "edgy and different"
Its so stupid.
For me it was onedrive replacing the local home folder with no consent and no way to disable.
I will remain livid about this, probably forever. Absolutely unacceptable.
Have you tried using O&O shut up 10/11? It has a way to force neuter one drive. It might take back your folder. I am not sure, I don't have Microcrap 11. Use at own risk.
They did that? Criminal. I would understand (but still reject) if it was a free OS... Glad I got linuxed years ago
For me, it's them telling manufacturers to replace the Ctrl key with a copilot button
Just don't log in to One Drive? Use a local account when installing Windows.
This is extremely annoying
Instead of making things better they just keep ruining things that actually work.
If they just left everything alone the way it was in Windows 10 and focused on nothing other than fixing bugs it would be a much better product right now.
As soon as Steam OS is available for dummies, then Microsoft is cooked.
I doubt that's ever gonna happen.
@behudanoob4867 No King rules forever. I've been with MS since 98 and i'm switching as soon as its made for dummies. Me.
@bowlock9901 Where does the line start?
Bazzite is as simple as it gets. It is way simpler than windows. It runs games better than windows. Just make the jump. Some laptops may have compatibility issues but that is pretty much all …check your model and 20 minutes later windows is gone.
@bowlock9901not "ms is cooked" part but steamos for dummies. There are linux for "dummies" yet that's hard for normies. Ppl don't wanna learn, they just want a convenient time with the device. That's tough to get with even the easiest distro
They tied _TERMINAL_ to online presence?!?! Oh good Lord.
Only a slight security nightmare
yeah big no no
😄😆😂🤣
This reminds me of when they were scared by Netscape about 30 years ago and decided that they would take their browser Internet Explorer, which should be a separate program run under the aegis of the operating system, and integrate it into Windows. This shattered the already weak security of the OS and created massive holes for hackers to exploit. They were rumored to have done it to make it impossible for anti-trust actions to split Microsoft into two separate companies with one getting the OS and the other getting the browser and internet stuff.
Whenever lawyers or investment bankers become de facto system architects, everything goes to hell for the actual users of your software.
No way..
good timing, my windows collapsed yesterday and didn't want to log into wifi
The amount of bloatware I've carved out of my laptop is enough slop to feed a dozen fully grown sows.
The poor things.
Use Windows 10 LTSC IoT
+1 for windows 10 iot ltsc
But only for critical software sake (we need it for medical imaging devices, xray sensors)
Everyone else is happy with linux mint
download winhance to uninstall programs that you cant atm
My 16gb gaming laptop with 4080 rtx struggled to play roblox due to all the bloatware in the background
Mine literally automatically updated even after setting it to not update for a month
If you set it to only receive security updates, they will toggle non-security updates back.
It has to update literally every other day which of course requires you to close Outlook and Word it’s insufferable
It’s not about wanting Microsoft to suffer. It’s about the fact that they really deserve to lose market share.
I can’t say whether it was back in Windows 7 or XP that was the last time it really had something streamlined, but it’s been nothing but decay and aggravation ever since
@endersgameover It deserves to go bankrupt. They've been known for shady business practices for decades, but at the very least they would deliver a decent product every once in a while. Now not only they are NOT doing that, but they also pull the plugs on decent things they did have and break their already horrendous newer products. And, again, NOT ONLY THAT, but they also are ran by complete degenerates.
Like, what reason does it really have to exist?
Utility, convenience, morality - all of it is in the negatives.
You can set it to hold at a certain feature update in registry or via gpo. You may need pro though. My laptop is frozen on 23H2 for example
Switched to Linux Mint last month. I dont regret it.
I’ve been seriously considering it
too bad I need the anti-cheat for league of legends and other games
Linux Mint is solid!
If you pair it with steam flatpak, you'll get the newest stable Mesa/graphics stack shipped with steam itself 🔥
Same here!
Facts.
My computer crashes every time I try to move a file in win ex.
Win11: its not a feature, its a bug
I will always cackle about the time I ran Malwarebytes on my Windows 7 laptop, and it flagged the Windows 10 installer as malware. I figured, if the company that devotes all their attention to finding and removing harmful software says Windows 10 is a critical threat, they're probably right.
There is no way DumpsterFire 11 is ever coming anywhere near my PC. And M$ doubling down on cramming their shitty "AI" into everything has made me double down on my decision.
It's not even a bug. It's a virus.
Ey if it ain't fix don't broke it
2:11 apparently, the update is so bad, NVIDIA is recommending not to install it as it messes with their drivers. WTF is Microslop doing?
Not even Microslop knows.
although I wont going to even trust Nvidia also at this point they are also doing slop drivers since 6 years ago
vibecoding with copilot
This is no joke, my laptop forgot it had a 3070 for an entire month.
is it only for win 11 or win 10 as well?
Too late, I've already moved to Linux.
Welcome! Enjoy your stay, make it yours!
I use Debian btw
@Mister_Kitler I'm struggling with Arch btw (but mostly use Mint, which has been great)
same, moved on Jan
@chillecharlie nice! I switched on sunday haha
My machine has failed to install 24H2 for so long, it’s now failing to install 25H2.
Mine is on 25H2, my wife's is on 24H2, and both of my sons are on 23H2. Mine is the oldest, then my wifes, then my boys are the newest.
My favorite recent bug is in Word where it spams you about not having location services on, and the "workaround" is to turn on location services.
arasaka would like to know your location.
Lol!!!!!
I'm so tired of being spied on...
Dear customer: Location services helps Word tap into regional differences in spelling. Without it, you're vulnerable to regional spelling issues. To fix this problem, please enable us to SPY on you. Best Regards, the Microsoft team.
one in had issue with was it bit lock my drive that has the OS couldnt put up system right thankfully had a usb with windows 11 on it to un-bit lock it to even fix it
As a software engineer for almost half of my life, I can tell ya one thing: until Microsoft FULLY reverses their AI code assistance policies and rehires all the engineers it has fired throughout these last years, nothing they say will actually change stuff, they're still cooked.
They said recently: "1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code". Do you know how much a skilled and PRACTICAL engineer produces per day? 500 to 1000 lines of code per day max, and that's when you're actively working on stuff. Programmers usually only actively work on code for a part of their month. Depends on the company and the type of tasks, but let's say you're an absolute beast and are producing 1000 LoC/day for 60% of the month, let's say 14 working days (not counting the weekends, the holidays and some of the more administrative/devops/etc. tasks), that's still 14k lines/month. And they were saying 1 million lines/month. How? Goddamn AI. They're rewriting entire products and major systems from scratch with AI. Replacing strong human-made code with AI garbage. And they've already laid off like what, 100k employees due to AI by now? This is only going to get worse, and they don't have any easy ways to course-correct because they've fired actual skilled engineers.
TL;DR: expect the enshittification on Windows to continue for a while. Valve/opensource still have the time to make Linux actually habitable for ordinary users.
500-1000 lines of code per day *max* is a slight exaggeration. Yeah, on a normal day, a developer would probably touch maybe up to 100 lines of functional code, but there are real examples where you would write more than that. I think my record is about 4000 lines in a day (working from a partial specification, implementing a new protocol from scratch). I actually ran stats for a recent hobby project I did, I was making it for just over 3 months, not every day but close enough. The project, excluding tests is 17KLOC, which yeah, works out to roughly 200 line additions (net) per day.
These counts are excluding stuff like tests which could easily blow past that, but that code does not end up on the users' machines.
Too late those engineers are probably at Valve now
@animowany111 I completely agree, that's why I said "skilled and practical" engineer. Those senior devs who do a lot of work quickly. Me personally, even when I'm actively working on a task, a median would probably also be 100-200 LoC per day, because you also need to test it, make sure it works, maybe even optimize it a bit, etc. 500-1000 is very serious and pretty rare type of output, and I went there specifically to be the most charitable I can be towards MS. Realistically, outputting even more than 10k lines per month is pretty nuts for even a seasoned dev. So yeah, the real picture is even worse, of course. I was just trying to be nice :D
microsoft stock price nearly tripled in 2023 when they announced the AI partnership and Co-pilot. The recent drop isn't even close to the gained it did with AI. As with any publicly traded business, unless this amount is undone Ai decision is still considered a win to every C-suite personnel. So it is very unlikely for them to even consider this.
@ab-yd8jk The point is not that they've already lost everything. The point is that they're trending down, and hard. And they're clearly backtracking on some of their dumbest decisions already. So no, I firmly believe that they know AI is going to shit. Otherwise they wouldn't be proselytizing and literally begging people to not call AI slop and not talk about it negatively. It's not even just the Microslop CEO, it's Nvidia as well. So no, I think they know what's going on and they're afraid. The fact that they still haven't lost everything doesn't change that.
They could start with booting that dink of a ceo
He's shat in the Microstreet for the last time.
100%. The board too, as they've signed off his baloney without question for years.
What would you do if that happened and all of a sudden.... A wild Kathleen Kennedy appears as the new CEO?
You cannot stop the Slopbringer.
It's tricky because he successfully navigating them Azure cloud which made them billions.
When a drop down menu pops up every time I type a th.... pfft , very bad
switched to Linux never looking back
Same for me. Its a relief.
Me too, it's great having features like being able to turn off my PC without it spinning fans on a black screen for an hour
With every problem I encounter on Linux, I'm pleasantly surprised how minor and easy the fix is. Less confusing and convoluted UI is the biggest win. And it's just snappier
Same , I never missed Windows since changing .
I switched to Mint two weeks ago and I'm actually baffled by how smooth and easy the experience had been. Won't be long before I won't even dual boot anymore.
Outlook calendar widget doesn’t work in Australia! Their suggestion - change your locale.
Online Word doesn't understand any measurement unit beyond FREEDOM UNITS (imperial). So there's that too.
@darkowl9 At this point, be glad that it at least still uses recognizable Imperial units instead of 'Budweisers per Freedom Bird'.
You live down under m8, we cant show the dates upside down :) The calender isnt upside down compatible.
@Khyron56 we use "swedish meatballs measurement system" here, its 30 meatballs /meter ;)
@l@lokelaufeyson9931Ooh, how many meters per meatball do you get?
windows 'you can't put the taskbar on the second screen' 11
Nobody asked + cared because VALVE MAKES BETTER SOFTWARE! SteamOS is way better than whatever this "slop" is that Microsoft calls "improvements"!
Actually you can have the task bar on the second screen I have mine set up exactly that way.
@mabonhunts you tot task bar on non-primary display? can you also put it to the side? this was my last straw before switching to linux
@Main_Protagonistno you can not move it it's stuck at the bottom
How does FILE EXPLORER have a memory leak?
3:41 Maybe we don't need or want copilot/ai at all.
indeed, should be a choice at install of a clean os, one that we already pay a hefty license fee for so dont want unwanted marketing junk
yes, the main issue is that copilot is pushed down peoples throat to please the investors, same with the "edge install numbers". The "edge install numbers" comes from every person who install windows 10/11 and its due to that its a forced install, most users remove edge when they reach the desktop or never use it at all
I dont😂
Windows 7 was peak Windows. Been down hill since
I move to Mac after windows 8 and never turned back
Win10 was quite acceptable. Has been more stable than 7 for me. Especially dying graphics driver didn't brought down the whole system for me in W10, which did happened for me in 7.
7 was my favorite too. I also liked XP. 10 is passable. The rest after 2000 is all trash.
I'm still pissy about the forced migration to 10 in order to keep using programs I had been using on 7 for years. I'll be rebuilding my entire systems if they try the same thing with Win11. Not touching that idiocy for anything.
@NexuJin yeah Windows 10 turned out to be good after years of updates and I expect Windows 11 to follow suit but their peaks will forever be lower than 7 despite the advancement of technology
I’m someone who considers myself tech-literate, but by no means tech savvy. I’ve never been the type of person to dive into advanced features. I’m a millennial who has spent my ENTIRE LIFE using Microsoft, apple, and Google. So I never IN A MILLION YEARS imagined myself using Linux. But I’m so mad at big tech in general that I’ve already started researching Linux and plan on switching in the next couple of months. Between turning EVERYTHING into a subscription, the ever increasing spyware/data harvesting to sell, and shoving AI down our throats whether we want it or not (I DO NOT), I’m just done. Big tech has accumulated way too much power, and has been abusing it to screw us over. So I’m getting over the intimidation, learning what I can, and if I run into problems, internet search still exists (I’ve already stopped using Google, Chrome, and am in the process of switching to Proton for email). I haven’t even run into any of the tech problems, I’ve just hit my breaking point with their BS. So I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one, and that things are on,y going to get better and better for Linux users.
Great post! I am at where you are in the process, but am a baby boomer who has used MS during my entire career. Win 11 is the last straw for me, esp the spying. When I return from my travels next week I will be buying a new laptop (current one is 12 yo) and will take the linux plunge (Mint or Zorin).
Posts like this make me smile a little. The circumstances suck, but it gives me a chance to be a little beacon of light. I know it can feel intimidating, but I can assure you that it will be much easier to swap than you realize. My experience has been that the only stuff you really need to focus on is the peripherals like capture cards and other things that need software/drivers. Open source variants are not always available and they are going to be the biggest thing to hold you back. The other is anti cheat for games.
I took the plunge after a generally horrible experience with windows 10. I got tired of my PC doing stuff I didn't ask it to among other things. This was around when proton was gaining some steam (pun intended) and one day without any real prep I just installed linux mint. It has been an incredible experience feeling like my PC is mine again, so I hope you can find a place where you can get that satisfaction too.
Lastly, there are a lot of jerks out there that are going to act high and mighty and give us linux folk a bad name as you ask questions. Just remember that there are also a lot of people like me that want to see you succeed. Linux is a fragmented space, so it can be hard to get answers specifically for your setup, but there are quite a few people that will do what they can to assist you.
Yeah, just do it. Tonight, the worst choice of distro can't be worse than windwos.
try mint. super duper friendly. the terminal / konsole isn’t as scary as one may think!! i did it and was terrified. easiest switch i’ve made tbh.
I would highly, highly suggest Mint. It's 99% GUI based, and pretty much every windows app like Office and Powerpoint has some alternative on the software store (I forgot what its called). I think it took me barely an hour to install it on my laptop using a USB drive.
Speaking about broken things mass effect andromeda soundtrack in background captures sentiment perfectly 🤣
Using Windows 10 until it dies. Then I'm switching to Linux.
@ShallBePurified why wait?
@ShallBePurified One might be glad that Win 10 support is ending so they don't break it 😄
Already have getting security updates up to October and security software ends in January built a new system to beat big price rises coming Linux all the way. Still need Windows for several programs I need occasionally and paid for lifetime use but only turn on machine couple of times a week. Never happier.
Same, unless Microslop accepts defeat and releases Windows 12 and it's better than Win7 and Win10 combined.
Me too. Dual booting with Linux and using the Windows partition less and less
I bring a "30% of our code is written by AI" typa vibe that my entire customer base don't like
When I request code from CoPilot less than 1% works...that goes up to maybe 5% by the time Copilot gives up and completely cuts off new prompts on the same thread. Every time I need to contact support they're just sending me copy/paste of Copilot generated PowerShell code, which NEVER works. That they're using this on their core infrastructure and operating system is scary. Hell, Copilot tends to be better with FortiOS commands than it is with Microsoft's own code!
SteamOS cannot come fast enough!
The minute SteamOS goes platform independent and can support Office I'm making the switch. I work in IT (server admi), I hate going home and futzing with my computer after doing it at work 8-10 hours
Gotta try Cachy-OS. It's built off the same distro as steam with gaming tweaks in mind. It also features further proton improvements. Or bazzite for an even simpler os. You can also use proton without steamOS. Main issue is still just a handful of games with anti cheat that don't support Linux but that's becoming less and less of a problem.
@TechnoSpice i don't think steamos or linux will ever support MS Office. Either alternative or just use windows.
And i think SteamOS being gaming device focused, might not be great as a daily driving OS. Better to use a general Linux with gaming tools and patches, something like bazzite/fedora/nobara etc
Nobody should be waiting for SteamOS. There are already plenty of easy options available such as Bazzite and CachyOS. And to be honest any distro can game perfectly fine.
Nah just use CachyOS, steamOS hard installs “game mode” unless you literally only use your PC like a console, I wouldn’t recommend it
Still running extended support windows 10 👍
Microslop continues to be the best advertisement for Linux
I just got home from buying a flash drive to create a Linux Mint installer when I see this posted. Why am I trying Linux for the first time in 15 years? Holy shit is Windows 11 terrible.
@timriggs08 I did it 3 weeks ago. Linux Mint has been awesome. I got tired of Microsoft's intrusion, forced updates, tons of unnecessary shenanigans, exausting system resources, built in advertising...
Linux is a bliss. And refreshing. It's nice to have fun using my pc again.
Mint's pretty good. I switched back in September and have yet to regret it. Yes, not EVERYTHING from windoze works flawlessly on my Linux box. NO, I don't miss Windows. I still have to use that pile of hazardous waste at work. Where Edge freezes at random multiple times a day, the whole system bogs down multiple times a day. Hell, just starting it up pegs the CPU near 100% for almost a solid minute while it....IDK does "stuff". Teams is garbage, Office in general is trash.
Microslop is still a company for the same exact reason that AT&T is still a company. They got their hooks into the U.S. Gov't early on and have been entrenched so deeply now that they will *NEVER* die...which makes me sad.
I made a bootable USB pendrive using Ventoy with 3 ISOs: Mint, Zorin OS 18 and Pop OS. I stayed with Mint. Simple and smooth.
I just started test driving Mint and so far it's pretty good especially with Steam's proton layer to make gaming possible
@Pedro_Cardoso - Ventoy is the best.
I never would have guessed that the year of Linux on the desktop would be... 2026.
Nah, it's 2025.
2026 or 2027 probably.
It’s the ads getting built into the OS that finally got me
It might just be time to fire the caretaker CEO.
It's great to hear that you're doing well financially, despite the economic challenges.
Your success is a testament to your financial knowledge, smart decisions, and resilience.
But how do you manage to consistently earn that amount? Is it through trading, investing, or another venture?
I'm celebrating 130k stock EFT portfolio today, I started this journey with 16k, I'm glad people are finally getting to stock EFT, I'm currently on a $130k I'm willing to buy more stock, I'll invest in other stock's
Can I ask something honest? How did you all start getting steady returns? I've been trying on my own for years, but my results are all over the place. I'd love to retire earlier, but I need more structure.
When people ignore market cycles and inflation, emotions take over. Securing $20,000 in passive income you haven't just earned money; you’ve built a system that works independently of your labor, which is the ultimate hedge against a devaluing currency..
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The fact that all the software I need for work is windows exclusive, scares me often.
proton, wine, wm. once the windows market share drops - theres gonna be native clients
If you are able you can use wine and such and male the software work in a alternative system, most functions is locally based in those software solutions so it should work with 99% of all software.
Or you can use linux and use one virtual machine with windows installed, no leaking of info and no issues. Its a clean no fuzz virtual windows system after all
@lokelaufeyson9931mhm and you can choose to emulate win10 win 8.1 win 8 or win 7 depending on what your application has compatibility with and save on vm resources
@lokelaufeyson9931I can, but I won’t, to be honest. For work I want all the apps to be native and official. Otherwise the risk is too big and there is no explanation or excuse later for me. Unfortunately that’s the loop to break on the apps side, cause the more native apps we have - the more people can move to Linux.
I mean best I can think of is seperate Ure Gaming/private pc from ure working pc and only use Windows for work on a Laptop ect.
"This is one of the largest companies on earth. One of the most resourced companies on earth. How has (their product) been so shit for so long?"
Literally can drop that line onto any industry leader. Too big to fail is a real thing.
Because every time a competitor emerges that could ever be a slight threat to them, they absorb them or destroy them with lawyers
you could say the same about governments and religion
Just like a drug dealer, they want people that cant stop using their shit.
Pretty much. Businesses get to a size then lobby government; usually government is run by people who do not understand the business, or worse, are themselves technocrats and you have walled gardens. It's actually more prevalent in the EU than the US, but India and China very aggressively do the same. It's a fascinating thing to do a PhD on.
I thought too big to fail was in regard to an institution failing being catastrophic, and not that it was literally so big it can’t fail.
my laptop had been slow as hell since novemeber
Not just the power users. Just watched a video by Fstoppers where he unboxes a macbook air and a surface laptop for the same price. It took him like 40 minutes to get into the OS on the surface and it took 7 reboots with updates before it was usable. Insane how they can release something in that state.
That should be illegal - I'd want a refund.
A couple of years ago I built a quite powerful desktop machine and installed Windows 10 from a recently created install media. It took *8 hours* of downloading updates, installing them, rebooting etc before it was actually usable. Then I had to de-bloat it.
Recently I built a similar spec desktop & installed Linux Mint. It took 15 minutes to install and update the OS, and then I spent 10 minutes adding a new wallpaper, theme, & icon set, plus installing a few favourite apps. Job done.
Work got me a Surface laptop and they weren’t even able to set it up without an external keyboard and mouse as the device MS sells doesn’t have its drivers available in install. It’s crazy.
I encountered a bug on windows 11 when trying to install on a new build I put together this week when it kept saying I didnt meet the minimum specs when I do. Spent hours trying to sort it. In the end just used Mint and was up and running inside of a few minutes.
MS literally forcing people off the OS with their ineptitude.
Tpm not enabled probably.
would be hilarious if you got a virtualbox with windows 11 and it worked with basically no settings changes in bios lmao.
...then installed 11 superlite over it.
@ayuchanayuko this, I remember win 11 require this on motherboard, and old motherboard will never work with win 11
I switched to Linux Mint last week and I regret not doing it sooner.
I tried it on a live USB on my laptop, and then I installed it. I was dual booting to try it out on my 2023 HP laptop -- Linux starts up in 5 seconds, Windows 15 seconds.
I just installed it on a laptop in the house as a test. None of my family has had an issue using it vs windows. Gonna work on switching everything else over.
Zorin Os
I recommend looking into KDE Plasma, especially if you consider yourself a power user. I went through a few desktop environments around a year ago and Cinnamon felt dated and pain to customize.
+1 for mint
i've been delaying updates for 5 months trying to avoid these issues
They have to justify the level of expense they have laid out participating in the AI wars. They just forced Co-Pilot onto all their Windows 11 + Office users and can now go to the board and say "Look! AI use has increased to hundreds of millions of users!". It's dodgy as fuck and will fail.
Well once they renamed MS Office (best name ever for an office suite) to Microsoft 365 Copilot App (how cringe can you get?), the adoption of copilot instantly jumped up by millions or 10s of millions. Success!
1:27 there is no one left to layoff
I literally just told my brother I'm going back to Linux lol
If MS forces us to back up our files to a cloud that anyone can peek at, I'm going to give Linux a try.
yeah soon as extended security for 10 is over i'm moving to steamos
Linux is as efficient as Venezuela atm
@baneshitsurenZorinOS and Pop!_OS are good too. The first one is straight up better than Mint in my opinion, but all 3 are valid.
@Dzaka79 just use arch. Steam os is arch with extra steps
What's frustrating me is that I have to keep re-signing into Windows each and everytime. It never keeps me logged in so every time I have to relog in, I ask customer service and they say it's supposed to keep me logged in, so no help there. It's the small things that really piss me off.
5:49 Maybe they are learning coding from Bethesda ?
I know that is a joke, but it is a good point. Bethesda hides problems under the map instead of disabling them. That wastes resources. Resources that are now immensely expensive.
16gb of ram is more than enough for medium use, yet Windows guards and hogs the ram and by extension wastes CPU power not recycling it. To put it another way, it is like running “Killer Drills” in BasketBall. Going back and forth for no reason when you could just go in a straight line less distance. Your computer doesnt need to build muscle, so wasting latency is pointless and expensive.
Well bethesda is owned by microsoft.. so its real possibility
no, they're learing to code
Wasn't it Todd, who told gamers few years back to "buy new computer"? While the related game looks like garbage...
Microsoft is getting high from their own supply. You heard it in the video, they want their own coders to vibe code.
To add context, from a software developer with a process background who has done swarming before: "Swarming" is not some technical process. It's a panic response by management that means exactly what it sounds like - throwing warm bodies at the problem in ever-increasing numbers, even hiring more if need be.
The reason it's a panic response and not what companies do all the time is that... well, it's not super efficient, and despite what it may seem like, it's not altogether that fast.
There's certainly such a thing as understaffing, but there are also only so many things that can be worked on at the same time (parallelization) before diminishing returns kicks in and each additional engineer gets you less added value than the last one you added. Worse, some problems are hidden until others are fixed, and no amount of extra warm bodies will get to work on those before they're discovered.
To put it another way, if there are only two people working at your local fast food restaurant, that's probably not enough. If there are 200 people working there, then that's way too many. Parking is now a nightmare and most of them have nothing to do, meaning they produce nothing even if they have an excellent work ethic and polished skills.
And none of this is accounting for time spent training or switching contexts or coordinating the new teams or communication glut and noise or any of a dozen other problems that come with managing a team that's suddenly much bigger or changing focus.
The only advantage swarming actually has is that it's better than doing nothing at all. It's what you do when leadership is out of ideas. And that's a scary time for the company.
And it gets worse with software development, because the new bodies won't have the knowledge base to know what they're doing, while rushing stuff leads to code that isn't set up to be maintained. Which causes future issues, both in needing more time to do work in the future and having more work to do in said future, as the code isn't as "future-proofed"... it'll have issues because the goal isn't to write code properly now, but rather, to deal with X now, allowing issue Y to happen.
Microsoft man-year: If a project is estimated to take one man-year, order 365 employees to come in on Sunday and complete the job in a day. Enhanced Microsoft man-year: but them all pizza. From Papa Johns.
@ChrisSmith-rm6xl Oh *yeah.* The Mythical Man Month writ large. I felt this.
Also prioritising bugs in corpo usually means that management mandates 20-30-50% of the dev time to be spent on fixing bugs, and imposes bug fixing quotas. This paired with unchanged deadlines for projects, and additiona status meetings about said initiative leads to creative accounting to meet the quota, and has oposite effect. I lived it personally. When we were given quota and had to explain when we missed it. We started stockpiling easy bugs on a side so we can quickly meet the quota on the next period and focus on work, we would avoid any difficult bugs and stopped merging duplicates and would close multiple issues with one fix.
2:37 by customers they mean shareholders
6:11 I can indeed call myself fortunate I haven't experienced these problems. Mostly because when I bought my new desktop PC I made 200% sure it came with the less bad Windows 10 instead (then subscribed to extended support and configured my system to never prompt me to downgrade to 11 inasmuch as possible).
Microslop, not just a trainwreck, a train that burst into flames, went off a cliff and landed on a mini nuke.
While vomiting in a dumpster fire.
Considering they made over 30 billion in profit and beat revenue and earnings expectations, nearly everyone would be okay with having that train wreck of billions in profits
My Windows calendar was broken today.
When they added copilot to notepad I hit the send feedback button and was like you guys have completely lost the plot. I guess enough other people did the same thing.
How about most of the items you use in right click like delete, post, paste, name change they make users us another click to reach those choices. Who is responsible for that stupid move?
@slrpirate2372 Wait, people right click for those? Thought everyone was on keyboard shortcuts by now.
When every update creates anxiety, you dont have a great rep. Always wondering what its going to break this time.
Been running Linux for 3 days now. No MS left on my computer. A week ago I barely knew what Linux was.
Enjoy the process 😃 Learning new things about Linux and exploring it can be very pleasant. Just step by step, no rush.
@wojciechmatyszkiewicz3871 yepp, its a personal journey. It goes forward in the users own speed
Congrats dude
Welcome, to Linux. Been running it for 5 years. It only gets better.
Hello, which version of Linux is good only for say surfing the web, maybe some gaming, excel? files Thanks
Windows is so annoying to use, so many little annoyances, that I asked my work for a Linux laptop and actually received it.
System administration on Windows is a GIANT pain
Windows is so bad that every single office i have ever worked at or heard of uses it.
Excel. Until an OS comes up with a better version of it (don’t see how), windows will remain the leader.
@joel6513 Microsoft already took care of that with Excel Online. Yes, Excel Macros don't work, but those are supposed to become Office Script (which is really just TypeScript) anyway.
My point was that even in enterprise, the power users are moving. 75% of my department uses macbooks, and those are NOT cheap. Guess it pays to be in cybersecurity.
@joel6513there are a dozen or so functionally identical, open source, Linux native spreadsheet applications that have all the functionality of excell, with some having unique additional features you might find interesting to fiddle with. It takes a bit to get used to doing the same thing, slightly differently, but it can be worth it.
It is better than Macs
@johntownPSN Really. The operating system where every time the "open file" dialog opens, and I scroll down, it inevitably scrolls up after a second or so in the sidebar because something loaded is better than a Mac.
The operating system that had three different bad updates the last three months, that desecrated paint and notepad, that is forcing copilot and edge on us, and web search into the start menu, that has seven different design languages in the same OS, that needs to run a Linux VM just so developers can work with it somewhat, that consumes more RAM than Chrome at this point, THAT operating system is better than macOS?
Is this the fist sign of the AI bubble popping?
Not really. Windows was on a collision course with its own bloat for a long time. Microsoft just accelerated it by focusing on AI features that no one wanted -- not even people who use AI, because Copilot sucks ass.
@lorekeepermeerahEspecially the part about the fist. That typo knows what's up.
Here's hoping!
Hardly the first sign, almost very tech company has borrowed and invested a fortune in AI and it's not making them any money. Smart people have already dumped AI stocks ages ago, OpenAI is about to go bust. We're in for another fun financial crash predicted sometime between now and 2032, but at least they will stop shoving it in our faces all the time.
Oh how the glass has shattered
Co Pilot is like Internet Explorer, no one wants to use it.
When Microsoft decided to implement their own web standards, it was the beginning of the end.
I own a gaming laptop that has crashed so hard 4 times I had to reinstall the operating system, 3 times out of which could be backtracked to Windows creating needless issues and random software updates and unfortunately, as much as I hate to use it, I need it for my projects. So yeah, I'm surprised that they actually admitted the OS is causing issues, but I'm not amused at all.
Windows works pretty well if you install it OEM. (At least through 10. Haven't installed 11 on my gaming rig, and I never will.) It may be Windows itself that's shafting you, but I'd put a bit of money on it being the shitware and drivers etc from whoever built your laptop. 😕
Virtual Machines work better than ever before
Have you tried a Windows VM for the Windows only software you need?
@Archangelm127 granted that it *is* an Acer Nitro, i would say yeah... they have some pretty bad bloat on the laptop but a lot of this was after i installed fresh, i guess i don't exactly know why some things work and some things don't
and no, Win11 works horrible just in general even if you install OEM. i guess i just hate the software 😭
@OzzlyOsborne unfortunately i also game pretty often and a lot of my games are EA-based (i play a ton of need for speed and apex). don't think a VM would cut it 😩
Just downloaded Linux Mint two days ago. Win 11 was the last straw.
welcome and good luck, mint is a good first step. Easy to learn and simply works out of the box
Mint is great! I'm familiar with Fedora & other distros - but I love Mint as it's friendly and capable. I'm sure it will evolve to become a more windows/mac like experience, drawing in more people.
@Simon_Rafferty mint is the best easy to learn how to use linux, familiar but still linux in the way it works and you handle it.
The linux versions that look like windows too much is ok i guess but its not the best choice if you want to learn and get used to how linux works and how you handle it.
The level you choose is personal, some use it very shallow aka surfing the web, check mail and such while other go deeper.. but they all use the same linux system.
@lokelaufeyson9931 Thanks - I've been using Unix / Linux since 1988. I still think Mint is one of the most user friendly & easy to learn - even if it does look a bit like Windows.
@Simon_Rafferty yes it does, it look like the old win98 but more "fresh" if you use the XFCE UI but the core is still the core that can do a million things at the same time
I've been struggling with W 11 for a year, but since January it has been a freaking nightmare!
Working on switching to Linux this weekend!
You’ll be switching back soon
Linux is free but you pay for it with your time.
The amount of time I spent searching forums to find out why things are freezing/crashing on linux mint made me just settle with Windows 11 LTSC.
@Grovelaar what gives you that impression?
If you're talking based on personal experience - please do share it, Linux users are a community and tend to help people who struggle to make the switch.
@Grovelaar I switched a few weeks ago and so far it's been great. I was planning a gradual transition, but within a couple days I found myself not launching windows unless I specifically need to, doing everything I need to at once, and switching back to Linux as soon as I can. I'm curious why you say this as it doesn't reflect my experience at all.
@Harry-n7p6p Which programs or features were you having issues with? Other than one audio driver issue that I resolved a couple days later, my transition has been pretty seamless and I've yet to run into any software problems. The amount of time I lost to figuring stuff out has literally already been made up for with just how much faster my downloads are on Linux.
*MicroSlop
Sloppya Nutella, CEO
Satya would prefer that you don't call it Microslop. Maybe if one doesn't want to be called slop, then they shouldn't be sloppy? Just sayin'.
Nice original joke, what subreddit you got it from?
@CuurianNice wrong assumption, RUclips is the only social media platform I use
My pc kept crashing during gaming, moved to Linux mint and no issues
7:25 I just made my Steam Deck my main PC when my win 7 machine finally gave up the ghost last December.
I just switched to Linux last sunday!
@Drewcardello I beat you by a week! 😎
Welcome ... I and my company switch late 2025
Jan 1. Was my New Year’s resolution
_ONE OF US... ONE OF US.... ONE OF US!_
I switched back to arch. FF14 / XIV Launcher works great, PoE2 Works great, Steam Works Great, Digimon Time Stranger works great. Last Epoch works great. Pokemon Infinite Fusion works great when launchen through Proton. Idk, I have everything I need. Its just fine 🤷
If Valve ever solves the anticheat problem that’s when the exodus will truly begin
Thats not much in valve's capacity. They did make it easy for most AC to support linux. Nothing can be done if devs don't wanna
@behudanoob4867 Not true. Devs didn't port their games to steam OS and yet they "just work". Valve will figure out the compatibility layer for AC or they will just PAY developers to port to steam OS. Either way, it will get done.
@cyberbuilds101 valve did as they could. There are games with eac/battleye that work well on limux. But devs of games like gta online/apex disabled the limux option deliberately. Valve cannot just keep giving money as a ln incentive if devs can disable support anytime(apex).
All the major anti-cheats already work with Linux. Game devs have to specifically configure them to not work with Linux. This problem has already been solved on a technical level. You don't need kernel level access to detect and stop cheats.
@cyberbuilds101 Anticheat is a piece of software that is intentionally designed to detect tampering with the system. And SteamOS/Proton/other compatibility layers definitely count as tampering - these aren't plain Windows.
So unless the anticheat itself accepts SteamOS and Proton, any attempt to trick it would be an arms race in the best case (and sudden ban waves in the worst case). You would have to work *against* the anticheat, and any possible ban waves would be a devastating PR.
So Valve is doing a correct strategy here - they provide tools to AC vendors, but unless they cooperate, Valve isn't trying to bypass or spoof these anticheats.
Switched to Linux Mint last October. Not painless. But frankly no more pain than I'd have got with Windows and now it works its just staying working. Which is nice.
@jayemmay2142 Keeping my gaming PC on Windows (for now), but the computer I use for everything else is going to Linux soon.
Me too, but I've been having problems with some of my Steam games. I'm going to try out CatchyOS
I've also been daily driving mint for a good while now and while it does have its things, there's lots of documentation and fixes everywhere not like with windows where you might see a 2 year old post on their forums with no answers and some Microsoft person just giving basic troubleshooting that does nothing
@badbunnylover911 _Who were you, DenverCoder9? What did you see?!_
Switched over last week. Only used Linux for my projects that needed servers, so the barrier to entry was significantly lower for me.
I will say, if there is one thing AI is good for, its finding commands to run for whatever problem I have. They are language models, and these short commands are in english. Take advantage of its one practical use.
Man. Everything stutters, services taking insane amount resources in the background at random points, updates in the background taking up all ssd usage, same updates failing after half an hour, and restarting the process. Yesterday I actually rolled back to windows 10. This week I had about 10 hours to playtime, half of that was killed by things I just mentioned above.
Got a new computer yesterday, Immediately reimaged it to Bazzite Linux.
You're Awesome! Which Distro?
Bazzite
@graphLoomsame!
@chillecharlie I use CachyOS and highly recommend it. It's my favorite of the Arch-based distros that I've worked with. Garuda offers some compelling versions, as well.
How does bazzite compare to Linux Mint? Mint has been good so far but some games run a bit slow
I’ve been a software engineer for 25+ years, mostly on windows development, I moved over to Mac OS and Linux 2 years ago and don’t touch windows anymore. it’s a mess and only going to get worse as they push out engineers for ai generated slop code. I don’t even think about microslop as a company anymore. You can do 99.99% of tasks with the other platforms and you get to be in control of your computer. Especially Linux.
Yep, ditched Windows for Mac since their ARM chips released. Linux for the home servers.
Still got a Windows 10 PC I turn on once a month or so for games, but that's about it. The sooner PC games' reliance on Windows dies, the better.
The only thing keeping Micro$oft above 60% are those office computers in all the offices. Companies with users only using word, outlook, excel and similar programs feels like the bulk of windows installations...
Umm, no. Check the cloud vs office software and you'll see you are spectacularly wrong.
@frankiebegbie no, you are spectacularly wrong. WIndows machines make up the majority of every single end user device in a majority of organisations. Don't delude yourself
Yes and it's only truly the enterprise customers that Microsoft give a damn about.
@stationsixtyseven67 false, our computers are still fucked by that stupid update that causes computers to not boot. It's screwed up things from adobe saving to onedrive, to infinite "please wait" after a reboot, to not shutting down. 1% means 5000 computers, there's 50 people that I need to reload...
Yes. As much as I'd like to move to Linux, I need to use Office products to be able to work with corporate clients. This is just not negotiable.
I could NOT find how to open Word , last night! The icon was GONE. My girlfriend tapped where it used to be and it appeared only then under the cursor.??
Microslop reaps what microslop sowed
You mean over 30 billion in profits and beating expectations on earnings and revenues?
@avinashtyagi2 yea the 18% stock drop in the last 6 months sure supports your argument
@choty7066 Facts support my argument dude, literally from their last earnings report 😂
Just was forced to an update. I can’t log in rn
Like every single time there’s an update the system crashes afterwards
On Linux you are never forced to upgrade ever. It notifies you and if check the package manager in the GUI or using the terminal commands (either updates the system and software apps), but it will never force you to run an update. You remain in control with Linux. Don't let all the distros confuse you, Ubuntu or Kubuntu are good starting points for a new user, and KDE is more like Windows which Kubuntu which is Ununtu with KDE desktop environment with more of a traditional Windows 7 type layout, and other distros that use KDE use, and Gnome is a little different, but watch reviews of them and pick one for beginners, Linux Mint is a popular option too, as is Ubuntu, Kubuntu and others.
My motherboard is not compatible with Windows 11, still using 10. Will probably switch to one of the custom Linux OS builds out there
Same, I switched to Bazzite, it's a gaming capable distro for dummies.
Bazzite and Mint are really good options at the moment for users. Bazzite for gaming focus, Mint for gaming and compatibility.
No one is forcing you to use TPM, it's easily bypassable. 11 barely differs from 10 outside of UI, why are you people keep defending this slop?
Wouldn't you rather pay several thousand for a new computer with a TPM so MS can moneitize and track you? Asking for a friend...
@ToddJohnston67 lol
I really miss just paying for an OS as a one time purchase.
now you don't have to pay for os anymore, if you switched to linux
It's $140 to buy a Window 11 Home and you get weekly updates for antivirus software.
3:31 "to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don't make sense." So it they don't make sense, then why where they added in the first place? Seems like a severe lack of leadership to me.
Because they need to pump the numbers for AI adoption to justify the expense in that part of the company.
People using AI-enhanced Notepad counts as people using AI.
severe overflow of leadership from certain ceo
Cause AI is a hot new buzzword to drive your stocks.
5:20 they are mitigating their code base from c++ to rust via AI .. what do you expect how well that would go?!?!
Not well at all.
@herrdingenz6295 There's something even more insidious about the push to reprogramming everything in Rust, it's that Rust is under the MIT license so if everything is built in Rust the free software movement is dead and global corporations regain full control over tech software and hardware
My dude, I love your vids, can you please fix that one foam square next to your window which is not perfectly parallel? Thanks!
i work as an IT consultant for basically everything microsoft. i too want to walk away if it wasn't my job. I am constantly trying to manually fix their issues... and yet, i havn't "upgraded" to windows 11 from 10.
@TheDogtag2336 I hold on as long as possible, I skipped 8 and all its iterations entirely, now planning to do the same with 11. If they don’t release something new instead of 11 I’ll have a field day with regedit and delete every auto update ai telemetry popup bullshit like I did with 10. I miss 7…
Hi, former IT systems engineer here. I left IT 3 years ago and I don't regret it. Neither will you. 😊
@mcp8063 i really feel you on this point. While i miss 7 aswell i do see the advantages 10 brought. 11? pure downgrade across the board.
@OidHunter glad you like it! personally i just don't know what my next step should be. I am working simi as a developer aswell for powershell and C# and finding it interresting, but what would you recommend
I'm probably just gonna use windows 10 until 2030 when I finally break down and use Linux lmao
steam OS 28
Thats when.
Same
Depending on what you do with your PC, there is no reason to not switch to Linux. If you just want to use a browser, do a bit of office work with LibreOffice and Steam gaming, well then there is no reason to use Windows.
2032 with ESU... Hopefully.
Use windows xp xD
I switched to linux mint when I bought my new computer back in November. Haven't looked back.
the daily driver crashes made me go back to windows 10
They shouldn't ended 10 when its 40 percent of the user base. Windows 11 is a lemon, they should go ahead with 12. I have serious doubts about 12 though.
12 will be subscription only and vibe coded by AI. I'm willing to bet money on it 😂
10 is absolutely same garbage as 11
ASs long as Microslop is using AI to write its code it will always be shit. AI just cant cut it yet
@Dat_Jonx I would disagree.
My old windows 10 box worked. I have yet to touch a system with Windows 11 on it that functioned completely correctly. I work in IT....this should explain that statement. 😀
Windows 11 is the modern day Windows 8. Windows 8, which had a decent OS underneath, forced a combined tablet and desktop UI that was optimized for neither. MS thought is had the next great thing and forced it's "vision" on everyone. It turned out to be a big turd, so bad that they skipped Windows 9 and went straight to Windows 10.
Windows 11, which likely has a decent OS underneath, none the less decided that AI was the next great thing, bet big on the technology spending way too much money, then had to force AI into the UI because of finances (sunken cost fallacy), the once again forcing their "vision" onto everyone. It also turned out to be big turd, so bad that it will possibly kill Windows, or at least severely harm the MS reputation, which is now derisively called Microslop.
So we had Balmer for Windows 8, and Satya for Windows 11. Maybe jump straight Windows 13?
The Day the Industrial tools like Autodesk, MasterCam, Solidworks all start going to Linux. That would switch alot of things.
i know, right? it's the only reason I'm attached to windows at all - and i run them though a vm whenever possible...
Thank god I am not the only one stuck here because of sdw
They won't switch to Linux until Linux stops being a pain in the ass to work with on hardware the Linux community doesn't overwhelmingly love without a PhD in compsci.
There is always freecad. Not as polished but definitely useable
@nukebirb That really depends on the hardware. I get that kernel and OS development can look a bit arcane but one really doesn't need to have "a PhD in CompSci" for that topic.
So tell me: What hardware are you talking about?
If Copilot was my copilot, I'd grab the nearest parachute.
If Copilot was my copilot, I might even jump without the parachute.
The title is worng, it should be "Microslop is panicking"
11:28 Love how you can truly sense the years of pent up frustration in that one question.
2:59 they must be vibe coding
Too Little too Late. People are already switching to Linux.
If you want them back, you will have to WIN them back, and that will be immensely difficult. If you are lucky, people will choose Windows on their next hardware refresh, in 2027 and 2028. IF you improve and are lucky.
Get ready for more pain Microsoft, you are just at the start of this hell you created. Put all hands on deck on fixing Windows, Cut every single data mining process, and dump Co-Pilot and keep your promise not to keep backdooring apps. You will not get that trust back in 2026. We need at least 12 months of probation.
I just switched to Mint, and my anxiety vastly decreased. didn't realize just how stressed I was with windows until it was off it
I jumped ship to mac during m1 launch for work. Would love to do it for gaming too.
I’m sticking with W10 until it straight up does not work. At that point, I’m jumping to Linux.
this is my plan as well, down to the letter. they will have to bluescreen my windows install, or ill stay on win10 forever
@Areolaaa Same but I still need to get an old instal for Windows XP for my truely ancient games.
I hope you and the upvoters of your comment realise Windows 10 will never stop working. It will just become more and more exposed to security issues as flaws/exploits are no longer fixed. The software you use (eg a browser) will eventually simply refuse to update / install on windows 10 and tell you to upgrade the OS. Of course you can try staying on old versions of software too, but you are now even more exposed to security issues. I moved to Linux (mint) from windows 10 and have never looked back 2 years ago.
Don't wait! I moved from Windows 7 to Linux and I've never regretted it for a second. At least when I hit problems on Linux, it's my fault and fully under my control, not Microsoft just deciding to seize control of things.
As a couple people have commented, it is a lot better to make the plunge now rather than leave an unsupported OS on your machine. One of the best things about linux is you can set up a live boot usb stick and try the various distros without installing them, and when you make a choice you can use that same usb stick to install.
You can even keep windows as a dual boot setup if you don't want to discard a lifeline of sorts, but ultimately you're better off not waiting for many reasons. If you do make the swap, there will be plenty of people like me that want to see you succeed.