You can't be under both law and grace at the same time as both are mutually exclusive! The act of giving under the New testament doctrine is greater than tighting! Breatheren, please give generously to the work of God by revelation and bless the people around you when you can but never give to God under the weight of any threat or compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver! Don't give to God because you're expecting a returns for God is not a money doubler. Give to Jehovah generously for it's your reasonable service! Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law for cursed was he who hangeth upon the tree!
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Please bear in mind that what God has in store for us all are not necessarily financial rewards but many kingdom focused gifts and blessings!
@@ao4514 The blessing of the Lord it maketh rich and he addeth no sorrow or painful toil with it. Another version: the blessing of the Lord brings wealth. Don't settle for less, friend. xx
glory to God for Jesus Christ the hope of glory. blessings to man of God Apostle Arome his teaching on Tithe was over and above what i have learnt from many other Ministers of God.
Who ever does one law must do all because a law is under a curse ,who ever is the son sets free is free indeed,we give by the spirit not as alaw and we give generaciouly, because God loves acheerfull giver .
Sometimes we make it appear as if the Submission to the leading of the Holy Spirit is automated. We are to give generously and cheerfully but this doesn't deny that leading of the Holy Spirit. If you leave it a generously and cheerfully you're the main man in the decision making which is contrary to Phil. 2:13. The scripture that you believe is the basis to cheerful giving is 2 Cor 9:6-8; Vs 8 of it and Phil 2:13 talks about a regime where you won't be able to bear the demand of the willingness to give sponsored by the HOLY Spirit and you will need another measure of Grace to do that. if it stop of what you purposed in your heart you will not be need supply of Grace to do it bcuz your giving will be after your mathematical proficiency. It's true we're not under the law but not the law of liberty by which we will be judged. Jas.2.10 - For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. Jas.2.11 - For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. Jas.2.12 - So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Jas.2.13 - For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. Jas.2.14 - What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? The grace of God should work us into fulfilling every leading of the Holy Spirit and the right prompting from our spirit. If the scripture be true in LUKE 16:10; if you're not faithful in a 10% is there any hope when the demand on the Spirit of God on your finance increases. Many of us, our need for money is now a god; and for God to win us to himself he needs to bring to the knowledge of the ability to provide and the making up of treasure in the heavens. Any purposing in your heart is elementary to the submission in your heart to the summons of God in giving. Holy spirit is domiciled in our heart but agreement must be reach Amos 3:3 in our heart because we give according to his leading and not just our estimation.
@@mbamnnaji2528 My brother,you said faith without works is dead and your true, that's why we who are lead by the spirit of God can not only stop on tithes but give generaciouly to whoever needs our help,And also you said if you fall in one law then you have fallen in all,so brother how about the what Christ said that unless you're rightiouness is beyond of that of the pharases and scribe ,the reason Christ came is because our forefathers could not do the law rightfully,so they ended up putting heavy burdens on the shoulder of the weak
@@mbamnnaji2528 my brother as we trying to do the will of God we should listen to what Christ told us to do not trying to please God with the law , Christ said we should be happy that he is going way to the father,so as to send us the Holy spirit who will be our guide in all our ways for people of long ago failed the law because they didn't have him the guide but now we all can get him if we seek deligetly , Mathew 22:37-40,says Love the lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul,(all your time and money, because where your riches are there your heart is.)and the second commandment is like that,Love your neighbor as yourself,(as you want to be treated so treat others )All the law and the prophets hung on these two,so my brother if Christ said that who is a man to take us back to the York of a curse and also, Galatians:3, Romans:3-28, Deuteronomy 27:26 be ready to do all the law of God He gave to Moses and His decrease and His statures But people like me who could not fulfill the law we will accept the leading of the Holy spirit in all we do not only in tithe but also in consecration and good works which is selflessness, Christ came so that we can have again a relationship we lost in the garden to communicate with our creator on how to leave this world until we meet Him.
@@thelivingalters2587 I BET YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE THE SCRIPTURE LOOK LIKE MY OPINION. I hope what you're saying is not that anything that Jesus didn't talk about is nullified. If Jesus Christ said in John 5:17,30-31 that he work as the father worketh and he didn't condemn tithing nor the provision attached to it. if our righteousness should be more that the Pharisees who did pay tithe etc; does it means you won't meet up the aspect they're good at. To my knowledge, Jesus never said tithing was wrong there but he might there's more to it. According to the tesching, A.A.O said you should be conscious of the fact that ""YOU AND ALL YOURS"" is of the Lord.. which fulfils ROMS 12:1 and acknowledgement of Psalms 44:3 you can give your all as the spirit leads. Again I saw if the Pharisee paid tithe and Jesus said more than they did is the requirement for us.... if you don't go beyond one tenth you're yet not up to date.. how about people that doesn't give at all. you can speak for yourself if you submit to the leading of God in your finances... Many fulfil ROMs 12:1 but will not submit the resources God made available to them unto him.
My experience with tithing is, and this happened to me twice in my life when i gave the tithe, i became where i could hardly pay my bills the one time and the other time i tithe the next month i had to go back to the church and ask them gor financial help to pay rent, so i convinced that as paul said lay beside you on first day of the week what you perpose in your heart to give as Gid has prospered you, that sound like it is left up to you to give what you can willingly so that you can be cheerful about it, God loves a cheerful giver, when you geel you have to give what you are told to give, if you are honest most people are mot very happy about it because that do not allow for them to make their own decision about what to give.
Thank you for doing a good job and blessings life with messages like this..may God continue to uphold you..Apostle Arome Osayi and 1SC I would really appreciate the full message link if you have it. There are alot of things to be learnt!
despite popular ideas of stewardship today, no NT text commands believers to give 10 percent of their income to the church. The tithe commandment came from a paradigm relating to the twelve tribes of Israel. The Levites did not own land like the rest of the eleven tribes, and thus the tithe was an essential part of ensuring that they could continue to survive and minister. Nehemiah 13:10-12 highlights an example of how much the Levites depended on the tithe. The Christian lives under a new paradigm. Paul addresses financial themes frequently, but he never specifies an amount or percentage. He calls the Corinthians to set something aside to give “in keeping with how he prospers” (1 Cor 16:2). But Paul does not make reference here to a new paradigm. What is the standard of giving? The most sustained exposition of stewardship in the NT (2 Corinthians 8-9) says that the grace of Christ’s sacrifice is the new point of reference. The Macedonians went well beyond a tithe. They gave sacrificially (“beyond their ability” [2 Cor 8:3]) and willingly (“on their own” [2 Cor 8:3]) despite “deep poverty” and a “severe testing by affliction” (2 Cor 8:2). Paul declares that “grace” (2 Cor 8:1) came down and it produced “abundance of joy” in the Macedonians (2 Cor 8:2). God’s grace comes first, and then joy springs up in the heart and overflows in “the wealth of their generosity” (2 Cor 8:2). Seven verses later comment further on this “grace.” Sacrificial giving is grounded in the “grace” of Christ’s sacrifice, which is spelled out in financial imagery. “For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ: Though He was rich, for your sake He became poor, so that by His poverty you might become rich” (2 Cor 8:9). As noted earlier, Paul can look back at the priests as a reference point that supports why Christian ministers should get their living from the gospel (1 Cor 9:13-14). But that example does not become the central reference point or the paradigm for all giving. All giving is recalibrated around the new paradigm of Christ’s sacrifice.
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Matthew 23:23 KJV Did Jesus not talk about tithe? Wasn't he telling us to tithe here? "without leaving the others undone"
I just want to understand this , Was tithing meant for those who are under the law or was it meant for all even those under the grace? Then why dont we follow all the laws of moses ,why are we partial in following the law? Please teach me to understand, Lastly how can one know the right alter to pay the tithe? What does the bible say about tithe? Whom is given ? Why are widows suffering in churches if tithe is paid ? Why are they not helped by the church
Tithing is just a percentage like Jacob did in the bible before the law - the same way his grandpa Abraham also did. It is the beginning of giving. People twist Paul's writings to their peril as Peter commented! I believe our God is a God of systems for everything. He cannot give us the kingdom of God without a system for finance. If God was to nullify tithing, it is only Himself or Jesus who would categorically adjust the word as Jesus did in Matthew chapter 5-6 in which he increased the scope of requirements rather than do away with any portion of scripture. Concerning the law, we are supposed to "establish the law". You have all gone to school. Find out what the following means: Rom.3.31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law. (ALL). I know this means living above the law so that its requirements for justification do not come screaming at you because you have broken any part. It is only a sinner who needs justification. That is why before we are justified freely by the grace of the Lord, we have a responsibility to repent. When you got born again, what did you repent from? Is it not all the things written in the law that you repented from. We should then sin and claim that we are not under the law. Otherwise, we make the shed blood of Jesus a common thing! Look at Jesus when ascending to heaven giving the great commission - Go into the world and preach the gospel to all creatures. He gave this without leaving a fund or treasury to finance the going. Just calculate how much two brothers in the kingdom need to go to the nearest city, preach the gospel and travel back to their home town? Equally, on the need for finances, the Lord has asked those who preach the gospel to refrain from working (1 Cor 9:6). Would they do this by focusing on our handouts and donations as believers? Peter and others wanted Paul and Barnabas to take care of the poor. With what resources would they do this? Handouts? Can you run a ministry with that kind of financial source? What kind of kingdom even if earthly can operate and be established with handouts? If you say "just give generously and cheerfully to the advancement of the kingdom of God"" What is wrong with 10% which is just a measure? I would ask you to tell us if you even remember how much you have given in this year ending 2022? God does not need anybody's donations but quality worship. You walk into it in obedience. Christians go through water baptism as a necessity. When Paul says no longer as a grudging necessity, he means the tithing and other associated givings should not be supervised as we do water baptism but rather the individual giver is in charge to make sure it happens as an act of free will worship. It does not mean you scratch your head on the go and give God any change available. For any church membership, tithing will give them a basis to set minimum budgets from which to operate. It brings equality at the start of giving, for $10 a tithe of $100 and $100,000 from $1 million is actually the same measure before the Lord. Finally, we should be careful when we talk about giving to God. Ananias and Sapphira were slain by the Holy Spirit at the time the believers were giving 100% which is the show stopper in giving in the entire bible. Acts 5:1-14 I believe we should all stick to giving 10x (where x is 1 to 10). Tithing should be as Jacob did in the bible way before the law. The purpose is to be consistent and faithful as God has no time for fools. The campaign against tithing is the scheme of the devil within the church and the kingdom of God itself. If the church has to be taken down, it will be within. Without the enemy within, the church becomes a big force that can actually take care of all the poor. Whitewash not to tithe. Get faith from those who already are tithers. Let no man of God speak from both sides of the mouth about it and let those who will walk into this grace be liberal to make it happen as a minimum!
My brother you are pretty right about that 🔥 info for the campaign against tithing is a scheme of the devil within the church, and if my monthly payment salary is 10k for example my tithe is 1k and my giving offering to God 🙏 should be 2k or more to God 🙏 with happiness
Read further bc you misunderstood was Paul was saying, Paul was NOT asking for money: 14 Even so has the Lord ordained that those who preach the gospel should live by the gospel. 15 But I have used none of these rights. Neither have I written this, that such things would be done for me. For it would be better for me to die, than that any man should cancel my glorying [in not asking or taking money or support from you]. 16 For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of, for the necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is to me, if I do not preach the gospel! 17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward; but if it is against my will, I am still discharging the gospel that is entrusted to me. 18 What is my reward then? Truly, that when I preach the gospel, I may offer the gospel of Christ WITHOUT charge, so that I do not abuse my right in the gospel. * Paul said himself if a man not work LET HIM NOT EAT…. A servant of God never eats off the hand of the flock to be burden to them but instead he is to be the opposite of a burden
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The teaching of tithing remains a controversial topic in the body of Christ. The fact is that we are New Testament Christians, and not bound to the laws of Moses. According to the law of love which we are bound to, giving is sacrosanct, and when you give to the work of God, give wholeheartedly. In your work/walk with God, you can be called to give even more than your tithe at any time.. So, if you understand the law of love and the principle of giving, you shouldn't be arguing at the concept of giving, whether you call it "TITHE" or "OFFERING". Just be a generous giver, and see God bless you..
I THANK GOD FOR THIS LESSON, SIR I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK CONCERNING THIS VERY LESSON, THE QUESTION IS, IF ONE IS IN THE CHURCH WHERE THE PASTOR DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT TITHE EVEN WHEN THE ELDERS OF THE CHURCH TRY TO CONVINCE HIM THAT IS GOOD TO TITHE IN THE CHURCH, HE SAID NO, INSTEAD OF TITHE HE WILL CONTINU TO PREACH THE ABOUT BLESSING, AND THIS THING IS COSTING CONFUSEION AMONG THEM EVEN SOME ARE PLANING TO LIEVE THE CHURCH., IN THIS CASE SIR WHAT ADVICE DID YOU HAVE FOR US. PLEASE I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOU CAN HELP US OUT THANK❤️
You don't need your pastor to preach tithing for you to pay your tithe. The bible says if you know what to do and you don't do it you sin. (James 4:17) Some pastors will even tell you tithe is old testament law. So, if you know the right thing just do it.
@@Margaret_Reuben my sister dont agree with you that i should pay tithe Just because i know what Is good, every scriture in the bible Is there for us to grow then why will some pastor hate to preach about tithe? Tithe Is not free will, Is not offre, and Is not a sawing seed ( TITHE IS TITHE) so Is good let the people know why they should pay It, because there's again in it, why will you hinder your congregation? The pastor Is not the writer of the bible so if he talks about It His members will know more about the Word of GOD, i believe Is not everybody knows how read the bible or to analisy It. Thank's for your comment
@@Rosy-hm1zt please pay tithe because God requires it from every Christian. Your tithe include 10% of your income, time and energy. Do it as a gratitude to God who has blessed you. Are you aware that the occult pay tithe?
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Yes he gave a tenth but he didn’t pay tithe. What Abraham did was freewill giving - the same giving the apostles taught and practiced. The word “pay” is only used with Moses because you only “pay” under a law or jurisdiction. You pay tax but you give a begger alms. Abraham gave a tenth. The word “tithe” I not a religious word. It simply means a tenth just like a dozen means twelve. Abraham “gave” a tenth of the spoils he stole from war but when Moses came long he made a law for the Jews to live under when they get to Canaan and because it became a law it also became something you pay, hence the phrase “pay tithe”. The Jews who still follow Moses and do not believe in Jesus have not paid tithe for over 2000 years because around 60 years after Jesus died, the Romans conquered Jerusalem and destroyed their temple along with the levitical geneology so the two requirements to pay tithe under Moses being the temple and the levitical genealogy are no longer there so they do not pay tithe.
@chima chinda, I love your submission.... But we should note that Jesus Christ did not come to scrap away the Law (Matt 5vs17) because the Law in its self is not bad (Romans 7 vs 7to 14) He actually came to fulfill it. So, the New Testament, which is Jesus Christ, did not by any means scrap out what the Law provided but rather GAVE US A PERFECT WAY and GRACE TO FULFILL them.. I think tithing is not rendered invalid for us Christians by the appearance of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
@@ChimaChindaDev How do you explain Jesus telling his disciples to give to Cesar what is Cesar's and give to God what is God's? Or Malachi 3:10, has God changed so much in 2000 years? "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse. Test me on this and see if I will not open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough to handle it." Do ministries today not need to be supported so that they can save souls from going to hell? You are right, 10% is too little - we should be giving 20% to ministries to stop people from going to hell. Jesus, "Give and it shall be given unto you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together shall men give into your bosom, for with the same measure you give shall it be measured back to you." It's true, you don't have to give under the new covenant; you get to give. The rich is in the tithe. I don't look to the Jews for guidance - they don't even know their messiah came.
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Let me assist with answering your questions and hope it helps.. First of all you should learn the context of the scriptures, Mark 12:17 The Message (MSG) Jesus said, “Give Caesar what is his, and give God what is his.” Their mouths hung open, speechless. Jesus was not addressing his desciples or followers but those who were trying to tempt him into saying something that would get him arrested by the Roman empire, and those men were sent by the religious leaders...Also this scripture does not refer to giving, however this scripture refers to "ownership" or "lordship", Ceasar owns the coin and God owns the body, Ceasar's face on the coin and God's image and his likenesses in mankind. This has nothing to do with tithing! Mal 3:10, was addressed to priests in the OT and not the church, "Windows of heaven" refers to those who had no access to the kingdom of heaven, you're worried about windows whilst we have full access of what they didn't..Ephesians 2:6 "And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus," All believers have full access to the throne room of God, God's right hand, God's heart, which is far better than being outside and hoping for windows to open up... To we should give 20% is an error, if that's how you feel to give then do so... there's nowhere written that we should give 20%! Now I believe we should give but don't make sentiments and guilt (using souls) to stand above the Word of God. NB: Jesus sent us to the world to preach the gospel and not to build ministries, however if ministries are built then the needs of the people should be above the concerns of the buildings. Acts 2:45 "They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need."
just give generously and cheerfully to the advancement of the kingdom of God. QED You don’t need to made Bible or Christianity a complicated thing, Jesus is simplicity personified, no complex explanations in passing any of his sermons across. Whenever it comes to pastors and tithe, they go round round and round with complex references all over the scriptures, crisscrossing both the new and Old Testament just to make a simple point. I want to collect your money
@@Jinyebo you are simply blind and gullible, which makes your spiritual condition a pitiable one. make reference to any part in the life of the early church, where any of the apostles collected tithe. how comes when it comes to tithe, you and your criminal cohorts, jump to the old testament, and forget that when the high preast was changed the laws to changed.
It's you here you can reason and read the scripture and has given Arome the one to think and read the bible for you. Read you bible, Arome here is just playing on your gullibility
The issue of tithes, changes every preacher to turn against the truth. apostle never taught about tithes even Jesus himself the son of God. Abraham tithed once with the spoils of the war. so, blood washed Christian will reverse the power of the blood by not paying tithes. I like this apostle he has profound teaching, tithes and Jesus are not friends.
Did you get interest from that money? (which I don't expect you to charge interest on money borrowed to another as a believer... Unless you are into it as a business. But, if in case you have charged interest...) Pay 10% of the interest (the least that's expected of you as a believer, you can give more than 10%, as the spirit leads). If you didn't charge and gain interest... You don't need to pay tithe of the money returned (since it's expected that you've paid tithe of the main amount before borrowing it out). However, you can give out of the money (or everything sef) to the Lord as the spirit leads. Note that tithing is a system designed for us as a believer to ensure our CONSISTENCY in supporting the desires of God on earth. 10% is the stipulated amount... Aside that, no one should coarse you into giving anything you don't want to give. 10% is dedicated to the Lord's cause and 90% is all yours. Having this mindset makes you a consistent partner with God in His business. Yes, you should give liberally... That's the NEW TESTAMENT STANDARD... However, someone still struggling with letting go of 10%, how will he give 50% even if the Holy Spirit lay demand on it. The same way he's struggling to let 10% go is the same way he'll struggle with every other contrary instruction. How do you think he will be so liberal to obey instructions like "Empty your account?" Like, what! He will even bind that spirit and call it the voice of poverty. Like Apostle said "Tithing is O Level requirement for Consecration." A lot of people just try to cover their inconsistencies with "we give liberally." Don't mind them...
This clip is part of a series called "spiritual covering" which the apostle is currently running in his HQ He has specifically promised to teach in detail on matters such as the one you asked Stay tuned to his RUclips channel "Apostle Arome Osayi" and he will break it down for you thoroughly in the series
If you continue to practice sin(robbing God) then you are accursed. You were grafted into a covenant both Jews and Gentiles. You should say that the 10 commandments is only for Jews too.
@@greenpastureministrygpm4289 your understanding of Christianity and Christian doctrine is very low... it is by grace we are saved and not by works... what God demands is we accept Jesus and all things are freely given to us... if you want to continue in stupid laws like tithe that's up to u but not for a follower of Christ. Is tithing part of the 10 commandments? Even the very 10 commands are fulfilled in Christ, Jesus said a new commandment I give u, love your neighbour as He loved us... if we can sacrifice for one another through love then automatically the love of God is in us... go back to your foundations
@@TheologyUnmasked : Right, so we should keep robbing people and robbing God because Jesus fulfilled the laws. Ok How is robbery an expression of love again?? I am loving God by robbing Him. 1 Corinthians 16:22 If anyone does NOT LOVE THE LORD, let that person be CURSED! Come, Lord!
Who ever the son sets free is free indeed 💪💪,and whoever does one law will be judged under the law,foolish galitians came to Christ by believing and later practiced circumcision for holiness,tithe is a a law, we give by the spirit and we give generaciouly and joyfully to where the spirit leads us.
@@davidogbodu5841 So are you saying that the Bible is incomplete? how is it that when it comes to tithe is only incomplete? recommend where else it is written because no where in the Bible the early church and apostles of old have tithed or received or commanded tithe
@@lwandomaqhashalala7631 In case you don't know... Tithing is already a consistent practice among the jew. They do it by default. When the move of the Holy Spirit came, it didn't need to teach them tithing anymore (they were already doing it). But, the Holy Ghost needed to teach them how to give liberally. So, when the new move began to permeate, it was notable that it went into record. "They sold possessions, brought the proceeds, and laid them at the apostle's feet..." Act 4:34 That was a strange move at the time and that's why it went on record... Tithing was a common practice... Jesus said it (Matt. 23:23) Besides, the NEW TESTAMENT STANDARD is about liberal giving... Not necessarily tithing. But, because tithing is not the emphasis of the New Testament Church doesn't cancel out tithing. In fact, consistently giving 10% of increase, for some people, is the definition of their librality. Such people, if they have more... They will give willing! But, tell me... How will someone who struggles to give 10% liberally give 40%? How will such persons obey the "Empty your account" instructions? Like the Apostle said... You can't be unfaithful in giving 10% and claim to be faithful in 60%... For someone who is faithful in 10%, it's only a matter of time before he hears the give 20% instruction... Then the 30%, 40%, etc. And you know what, because he has passed the 10% stage, he won't struggle for long with the other stages. That's the whole summary of Apostle's teaching. We know you have Eisegesis... We know you have Rhema... But, calm down and listen... Meditate on these things and we won't have to debate on this tithing matter again. Itz reli nur nezezary! Honezly...
@@thelivingalters2587 Tithing is not a law... It's a principle... "The Principle of Honor"... Honor unto God! Tithing existed in principle before the law of Moses. Garden of Eden, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph... Those who tithe are not fulfilling the law... They are engaging a principle... The principle of honor unto God.
This guy is funny....he speaks without knowing what he is saying. He doesn't know that though l don't believe in his god l gave a huge amount toward the building of his church. He doesn't know that the same people he prays against are the same people giving toward his ministry behind the scenes. Christians forget that the God of the universe and galaxies doesn't need your 10% to bless you. Actually we are already blessed through our abilities. I don't believe in his Jesus and God but l help a lot of Christians who believe in his Jesus. Why are Christians full of hatred toward people who don't believe in their doctrine?
Nobody is against your doctrine of helping Christians and for sure that's why you have been prospering but if you were led in the heart to do so it is Because God is the one who led you to do it, and if you think you have been saving the church you are totally mistaken and you can ask your money back or don't give it out again but know our God is real he has more than enough channels to finance his kingdom. publishing it doesn't even value you it diminishes your Value, May God give you understanding🙏
Who are you referring to as this guy. Who or whatever you believe in can you refer to with same words. He doesn't need your donation to build. It's the Lords Church and He will build without you. Remember the pride of nebuchadnezzar ended him in the Bush.
The principles he's talking about apply to the people who belong to the Kingdom of God, this message isn't for you...that's why whether you tithe or not you're not affected . The message is for believers in Christ
I agree on "consecration" and "trusting in the Lord" but the issue of accursed things you're committing crime for not tithing etc.. then what would you say about the early church and apostles who never ever ever ever tithed a day in their life? I am not speaking against giving, I believe in giving cheerfully as the Bible says but this teaching is disturbing... Christ became the curse for us Gal 3:10, trusting God with everything is what I believe he wanted to teach about but other than that; it's all fallacy because even the early disciples never started at 10% because they sold everything... the starting point of every giving is willingness and cheerfulness by responding to God's love and also having the revelation that you belong to Him (there generosity lies).. no need to make people believe that you prosper by tithing; the true honor God demands is to offer our bodies above all else Romans 12:1
Bro or sister tithe begins from the book of genesis study the word,and all you'll be doing is grow spiritually when you hear such sermon go through the book of malachi and see what God says about tithe....God bless you
@@collinsmusonda9061 I have... just because it appears before the law, in the law it doesn't mean it applies to believers... if you can point out to me where in the early church this was practiced then I would agree with you, the early church structure is what God intended to build... I can also show you where Jesus fulfilled tithe requirement in the scriptures
How exactly did Christ become a “curse” for us? Seems like your reading without understanding. We are to sew back into the church, not for personal wants and gains but for it’s God’s money. We act like we own anything around here when we don’t. God’s about remove and take away, then what will folks have to say? Ya’ll to comfortable debating, you won’t have time when the economy crashes and food is scarce to be questioning this and that, read your book. The bible speaks on why God says we should, Apostles served God, they don’t make the rules nor do we follow or serve them.
@@CopperSkinnedMamii Looks like you are confused mam, read my comments again and again and again before you type unconsencrated comments... I asked show me one scripture in the NT that says if you don't tithe money as you claim then economic whatever you claim will crash... and also show me where the early church and apostles of old did it, if you can't, then stop it now with your economic threats that empty, threaten yourself instead
Dont tithe if you dont want to. Nobody forces you. Tithing is more an honour principle than a money principle. Tithing is from Genesis... 400years before the law. There are some practices Jesus spoke against and tithing is not one of them. lf you feel that you dont want to tithe...DONT. you will not go to hell because of it.. but let those of us who have been graced with that revelation continue to celebrate God' s provision in our lives.
TITHING ISN'T FOR CHRISTIANS. PLEASE CAN YOU NAME ONE OF THE APOSTLES FOLLOWING JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF PAID. AFTER THEY'RE CALLED CHRISTIANS. ITS PAST. PLEASE IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND KINDLY LOOK FOR DR BRO. DAN OWUSU ASIAMAH OF CHURCH OF CHRIST FROM GHANA ON TITHING. THANK YOU
@@gabrieldavid-fi4mv: Do the apostles have to tell you that stealing from anybody is a sin before you know you ought not to steal?? Didn't God Himself call refusal to tithe "a robbery"?? Shouldn't you obey the 10 commandments?? The apostles didn't talk about tithing but they spoke of keeping the 10 commandments. You are still required to keep the 10 commandments. Romans 2:22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you ROB TEMPLES? The HOUSE OF GOD is the TEMPLE OF GOD. The BODY OF CHRIST is this TEMPLE. He said to Tithe that there may be FOOD IN HIS HOUSE(THE BODY OF CHRIST) for the WORKERS OF THE TEMPLE. Robbing a man's house is to rob the man. Robbing God's house is to rob God. Do you ROB THE TEMPLE(HOUSE) OF GOD??
Pls if you won't pay is your money and those paying too is their money and bliv so what's your problem . Or are people borrowing from you to pay their tithes....
Payment of tithes is not giving, it is going back to the yoke of bondage of Law. It is not giving in the same way that paying tax is not giving. Abraham gave a tenth but he didn’t pay tithe. What Abraham did was freewill giving - the same giving the apostles taught and practiced. The word “pay” is only used with Moses because you only “pay” under a law or jurisdiction. You pay tax but you give a beggar alms. Abraham gave a tenth. The word “tithe” is not a religious word. It simply means a tenth just like a dozen means twelve. Abraham “gave” a tenth of the spoils he stole from war but when Moses came long he made it a law for the Jews to live under when they get to Canaan and because it was now a law it became something you paid, hence the phrase “pay tithe” started. The Jews who still follow Moses today and do not believe in Jesus have not paid tithe for over 2000 years because around 60 years after Jesus died, the Romans conquered Jerusalem and destroyed their temple along with the levitical geneology so the two requirements to pay tithe under Moses being the temple and the levitical genealogy are no longer there so they do not pay tithe. What they do today is Tzedekah which simply means free will giving to the poor or justice. It’s a practice they will do until their supposed messiah comes back and rebuilds their temple and restores the levitical geneology. Christ has redeemed us from every requirement of the law - we have clean slate and we owe God no dime of tithe. Tithing is not for Christians and it is fraudulent teach people to pay tithes. It’s like telling someone in Nigeria that he owes tax to the government of Great Britain. The Jews in Jerusalem under Moses do not pay tithe yet Nigerians under grace are taught to pay tithes in Nigeria. It’s really sad.
Right and you are aren't under the government of God's kingdom?? Why do you even pay taxes?? Isn't it an acknowledgement of the fact that the government of that country partners with you to ensure that you are able to transact successfully?? So, you give the government it's rightful share as an acknowledgement of ITS PARTNERSHIP. So, in your head, you became a Christian and WEREN'T A part of a KINGDOM OR GOVERNMENT(GOD'S GOVERNMENT) that ensures that you succeed in your business endevours by giving you certain benefits. Or maybe you just don't realize that your tithe is an acknowledgement of the fact that you didn't get that money ALL alone but that you did it in partnership with the GOVERNMENT OF GOD. It is robbery to take that which rightfully BELONGS TO YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER.
@@greenpastureministrygpm4289 I see you're a ministry but you've been badly taught. The kingdom of is not like the kingdom of men. Our patnership with God is not in carnal things but in the Spirit. The sign of our partnership is the Holy Spirit that lives in us. What is the kingdom? Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost." Love, joy, peace IN the Holy Ghost. Not IN material things. Even the idea of taxation was faulted by Jesus. Matthew 17:24-27 "24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are sons children free." Jesus was asked to pay temple tax and he asked Peter, in the kingdoms of this world, who pays tax, the sons or strangers. Peter answered, strangers. Jesus then says, the sons are free from paying. We are sons of God, we are not strangers in His kingdom. Sons pay nothing. If in the earthly kingdoms, sons are free, how much more in God's Kingdom where we are sons of the living God. Look, the apostles learnt directly, one on one from God (Jesus). He even had a 40 day teaching seminar with them after resurrection. If Jesus taught them to pay tithe and follow Moses we would have known because they would have taught it especially to the foreigners in Corinth, Colossae, Ephesus, Rome and so on but not once did they practice Moses' payment of tithes or teach it. The spirit of the new testament is generousity. Let every man purpose in his heart what he wants to give. If you decide on your own to give a tenth of your monthly salary then it's fine but payment of tithes out of compulsion for God to bless you or for partnership is false. God has already partnered with you by justifying you and living in you. He is now your father and you do not need to pay any money to your father to show partnership. Your father is your father. Bless your heart.
@@ChimaChindaDev : Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, Kingdom simply means a king's territory or DOMAIN. King's DOMAIN(KING- DOM). We became Jesus's territory or DOMAIN by the PURCHASE of HIS BLOOD. The nation is not the LAND but the people. We(our very lives and every aspect of it) are an extension of that heavenly kingdom on the earth. So, yes, it affects EVERYTHING you do, both the eating, drinking, and everything else. The MANNER in which a man does these things can infact show the kingdom he identifies with. The LOVE, JOY, PEACE that you see are the fruits of having Jesus RULE OVER YOUR LIFE. It is the result of HIS GOVERNANCE. There are other fruits like SELF CONTROL. A man drinking alcohol without self control definitely isn't representing the kingdom because that results in drunkenness. Your interpretation of Romans 14 is flawed. So, the kingdom cuts across every aspect of our lives. Colossians 3:17 And WHATEVER(eating, drinking, business,...) YOU DO, whether in word or deed, do it ALL IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS, giving thanks to God the Father through him. I think we can agree that anything done is the NAME OF JESUS is DONE IN THE NAME OF THE KINGDOM. From this scripture, the kingdom affects EVERYTHING, even eating and drinking. Anyone who does things in the name of a company is IN PARTNERSHIP with the company. That is by the way. About Matthew 17:24-27 Let me put it this way; Yes, Sons aren't REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES but they aren't ALLOWED TO ROB OTHERS EITHER. They aren't allowed to rob their business partner. Sons give to ceasar what is Ceasar's and they give to God what is God's. The Tithe is God's. They don't steal the proceeds of God's share. All Sons of the kingdom do ALL THINGS in Jesus Name so ALL SONS are in PARTNERSHIP with God's GOVERNMENT(which is why I used taxation to explain the point of tithing) at ALL times. Romans 8:14 "As many as are LED(LEADERSHIP OR GOVERNANCE) by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God" The final scripture I will use to cement my point is this; Deuteronomy 14:1 You are children of your God... Israelites were children of God yet they were required to pay tithes because they are in partnership with Him. He was also their father and yet they are required to pay tithe. So, this new position we have in Christ as sons of God doesn't exempt us from paying the tithe.
You can't be under both law and grace at the same time as both are mutually exclusive!
The act of giving under the New testament doctrine is greater than tighting!
Breatheren, please give generously to the work of God by revelation and bless the people around you when you can but never give to God under the weight of any threat or compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver!
Don't give to God because you're expecting a returns for God is not a money doubler. Give to Jehovah generously for it's your reasonable service!
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law for cursed was he who hangeth upon the tree!
No, he's a money tripler.
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Money tripler ???
@@ao4514 Yup, when you give into God's kingdom, he gives you back twice or thrice more. Or even better - as the Bible puts it - a hundredfold return.
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Please bear in mind that what God has in store for us all are not necessarily financial rewards but many kingdom focused gifts and blessings!
@@ao4514 The blessing of the Lord it maketh rich and he addeth no sorrow or painful toil with it. Another version: the blessing of the Lord brings wealth.
Don't settle for less, friend. xx
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As I continue to honour you, O God with my tithes, let me be consecrated unto you such that the usage of all my money is regulated by the Holyspirit.
Amen🙏
Sir there is no such thing like tithing in the new testament
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You are not sure. Jesus in the new testament said tighting is right, although not a weigtier matter.
Amen
@@benjamintachu6360There is no law against tithing. Let those who want to tithe do their thing.
This is my prayer everyday, I don't want to resign at my own will, I need a sign from God 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Powerful teaching
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Thank you Jesus
glory to God for Jesus Christ the hope of glory. blessings to man of God Apostle Arome his teaching on Tithe was over and above what i have learnt from many other Ministers of God.
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Lord I thank you for this timely message
Who ever does one law must do all because a law is under a curse ,who ever is the son sets free is free indeed,we give by the spirit not as alaw and we give generaciouly, because God loves acheerfull giver .
Sometimes we make it appear as if the Submission to the leading of the Holy Spirit is automated. We are to give generously and cheerfully but this doesn't deny that leading of the Holy Spirit. If you leave it a generously and cheerfully you're the main man in the decision making which is contrary to Phil. 2:13.
The scripture that you believe is the basis to cheerful giving is 2 Cor 9:6-8; Vs 8 of it and Phil 2:13 talks about a regime where you won't be able to bear the demand of the willingness to give sponsored by the HOLY Spirit and you will need another measure of Grace to do that. if it stop of what you purposed in your heart you will not be need supply of Grace to do it bcuz your giving will be after your mathematical proficiency.
It's true we're not under the law but not the law of liberty by which we will be judged.
Jas.2.10 - For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas.2.11 - For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas.2.12 - So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Jas.2.13 - For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
Jas.2.14 - What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
The grace of God should work us into fulfilling every leading of the Holy Spirit and the right prompting from our spirit. If the scripture be true in LUKE 16:10; if you're not faithful in a 10% is there any hope when the demand on the Spirit of God on your finance increases.
Many of us, our need for money is now a god; and for God to win us to himself he needs to bring to the knowledge of the ability to provide and the making up of treasure in the heavens. Any purposing in your heart is elementary to the submission in your heart to the summons of God in giving. Holy spirit is domiciled in our heart but agreement must be reach Amos 3:3 in our heart because we give according to his leading and not just our estimation.
Tithing should basically lead a believer unto consecration to God.... Total submission.
@@mbamnnaji2528 My brother,you said faith without works is dead and your true, that's why we who are lead by the spirit of God can not only stop on tithes but give generaciouly to whoever needs our help,And also you said if you fall in one law then you have fallen in all,so brother how about the what Christ said that unless you're rightiouness is beyond of that of the pharases and scribe ,the reason Christ came is because our forefathers could not do the law rightfully,so they ended up putting heavy burdens on the shoulder of the weak
@@mbamnnaji2528 my brother as we trying to do the will of God we should listen to what Christ told us to do not trying to please God with the law , Christ said we should be happy that he is going way to the father,so as to send us the Holy spirit who will be our guide in all our ways for people of long ago failed the law because they didn't have him the guide but now we all can get him if we seek deligetly , Mathew 22:37-40,says Love the lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul,(all your time and money, because where your riches are there your heart is.)and the second commandment is like that,Love your neighbor as yourself,(as you want to be treated so treat others )All the law and the prophets hung on these two,so my brother if Christ said that who is a man to take us back to the York of a curse and also, Galatians:3, Romans:3-28, Deuteronomy 27:26 be ready to do all the law of God He gave to Moses and His decrease and His statures But people like me who could not fulfill the law we will accept the leading of the Holy spirit in all we do not only in tithe but also in consecration and good works which is selflessness, Christ came so that we can have again a relationship we lost in the garden to communicate with our creator on how to leave this world until we meet Him.
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I BET YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE THE SCRIPTURE LOOK LIKE MY OPINION.
I hope what you're saying is not that anything that Jesus didn't talk about is nullified. If Jesus Christ said in John 5:17,30-31 that he work as the father worketh and he didn't condemn tithing nor the provision attached to it. if our righteousness should be more that the Pharisees who did pay tithe etc; does it means you won't meet up the aspect they're good at. To my knowledge, Jesus never said tithing was wrong there but he might there's more to it.
According to the tesching, A.A.O said you should be conscious of the fact that ""YOU AND ALL YOURS"" is of the Lord.. which fulfils ROMS 12:1 and acknowledgement of Psalms 44:3 you can give your all as the spirit leads.
Again I saw if the Pharisee paid tithe and Jesus said more than they did is the requirement for us.... if you don't go beyond one tenth you're yet not up to date.. how about people that doesn't give at all.
you can speak for yourself if you submit to the leading of God in your finances... Many fulfil ROMs 12:1 but will not submit the resources God made available to them unto him.
My experience with tithing is, and this happened to me twice in my life when i gave the tithe, i became where i could hardly pay my bills the one time and the other time i tithe the next month i had to go back to the church and ask them gor financial help to pay rent, so i convinced that as paul said lay beside you on first day of the week what you perpose in your heart to give as Gid has prospered you, that sound like it is left up to you to give what you can willingly so that you can be cheerful about it, God loves a cheerful giver, when you geel you have to give what you are told to give, if you are honest most people are mot very happy about it because that do not allow for them to make their own decision about what to give.
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God bless u real gud sir. So much wisdom in ur message. U will only getter better by the mercy of God. I tap from ur wisdom in Jesus name.
Thank you for doing a good job and blessings life with messages like this..may God continue to uphold you..Apostle Arome Osayi and 1SC
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Man of God for this teachings
despite popular ideas of stewardship today, no NT text commands believers to give 10 percent of their income to the church. The tithe commandment came from a paradigm relating to the twelve tribes of Israel.
The Levites did not own land like the rest of the eleven tribes, and thus the tithe was an essential part of ensuring that they could continue to survive and minister. Nehemiah 13:10-12 highlights an example of how much the Levites depended on the tithe. The Christian lives under a new paradigm.
Paul addresses financial themes frequently, but he never specifies an amount or percentage. He calls the Corinthians to set something aside to give “in keeping with how he prospers” (1 Cor 16:2). But Paul does not make reference here to a new paradigm. What is the standard of giving?
The most sustained exposition of stewardship in the NT (2 Corinthians 8-9) says that the grace of Christ’s sacrifice is the new point of reference.
The Macedonians went well beyond a tithe. They gave sacrificially (“beyond their ability” [2 Cor 8:3]) and willingly (“on their own” [2 Cor 8:3]) despite “deep poverty” and a “severe testing by affliction” (2 Cor 8:2). Paul declares that “grace” (2 Cor 8:1) came down and it produced “abundance of joy” in the Macedonians (2 Cor 8:2). God’s grace comes first, and then joy springs up in the heart and overflows in “the wealth of their generosity” (2 Cor 8:2). Seven verses later comment further on this “grace.” Sacrificial giving is grounded in the “grace” of Christ’s sacrifice, which is spelled out in financial imagery. “For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Though He was rich, for your sake He became poor, so that by His poverty you might become rich” (2 Cor 8:9). As noted earlier, Paul can look back at the priests as a reference point that supports why Christian ministers should get their living from the gospel (1 Cor 9:13-14). But that example does not become the central reference point or the paradigm for all giving.
All giving is recalibrated around the new paradigm of Christ’s sacrifice.
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
Matthew 23:23 KJV
Did Jesus not talk about tithe? Wasn't he telling us to tithe here? "without leaving the others undone"
Thank God your Mention Israel, Did you have Israelite in ur church?
This guys is just interested in their money. Hence is muddled up all that He can just to sale his lies to them
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Jesus owns me and my coins
Well explained Sir
We're did we c the early church paying tithe, an the apostles receiving tithe frm d church
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I just want to understand this ,
Was tithing meant for those who are under the law or was it meant for all even those under the grace?
Then why dont we follow all the laws of moses ,why are we partial in following the law? Please teach me to understand,
Lastly how can one know the right alter to pay the tithe?
What does the bible say about tithe? Whom is given ?
Why are widows suffering in churches if tithe is paid ? Why are they not helped by the church
I am bless by your word
Amen!
Tithing is just a percentage like Jacob did in the bible before the law - the same way his grandpa Abraham also did. It is the beginning of giving. People twist Paul's writings to their peril as Peter commented!
I believe our God is a God of systems for everything. He cannot give us the kingdom of God without a system for finance. If God was to nullify tithing, it is only Himself or Jesus who would categorically adjust the word as Jesus did in Matthew chapter 5-6 in which he increased the scope of requirements rather than do away with any portion of scripture.
Concerning the law, we are supposed to "establish the law". You have all gone to school. Find out what the following means:
Rom.3.31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law. (ALL). I know this means living above the law so that its requirements for justification do not come screaming at you because you have broken any part. It is only a sinner who needs justification. That is why before we are justified freely by the grace of the Lord, we have a responsibility to repent. When you got born again, what did you repent from? Is it not all the things written in the law that you repented from. We should then sin and claim that we are not under the law. Otherwise, we make the shed blood of Jesus a common thing!
Look at Jesus when ascending to heaven giving the great commission - Go into the world and preach the gospel to all creatures. He gave this without leaving a fund or treasury to finance the going. Just calculate how much two brothers in the kingdom need to go to the nearest city, preach the gospel and travel back to their home town? Equally, on the need for finances, the Lord has asked those who preach the gospel to refrain from working (1 Cor 9:6). Would they do this by focusing on our handouts and donations as believers? Peter and others wanted Paul and Barnabas to take care of the poor. With what resources would they do this? Handouts? Can you run a ministry with that kind of financial source? What kind of kingdom even if earthly can operate and be established with handouts?
If you say "just give generously and cheerfully to the advancement of the kingdom of God"" What is wrong with 10% which is just a measure? I would ask you to tell us if you even remember how much you have given in this year ending 2022? God does not need anybody's donations but quality worship. You walk into it in obedience.
Christians go through water baptism as a necessity. When Paul says no longer as a grudging necessity, he means the tithing and other associated givings should not be supervised as we do water baptism but rather the individual giver is in charge to make sure it happens as an act of free will worship. It does not mean you scratch your head on the go and give God any change available.
For any church membership, tithing will give them a basis to set minimum budgets from which to operate. It brings equality at the start of giving, for $10 a tithe of $100 and $100,000 from $1 million is actually the same measure before the Lord.
Finally, we should be careful when we talk about giving to God. Ananias and Sapphira were slain by the Holy Spirit at the time the believers were giving 100% which is the show stopper in giving in the entire bible. Acts 5:1-14
I believe we should all stick to giving 10x (where x is 1 to 10).
Tithing should be as Jacob did in the bible way before the law. The purpose is to be consistent and faithful as God has no time for fools. The campaign against tithing is the scheme of the devil within the church and the kingdom of God itself. If the church has to be taken down, it will be within. Without the enemy within, the church becomes a big force that can actually take care of all the poor. Whitewash not to tithe. Get faith from those who already are tithers. Let no man of God speak from both sides of the mouth about it and let those who will walk into this grace be liberal to make it happen as a minimum!
My brother you are pretty right about that 🔥 info for the campaign against tithing is a scheme of the devil within the church, and if my monthly payment salary is 10k for example my tithe is 1k and my giving offering to God 🙏 should be 2k or more to God 🙏 with happiness
Read further bc you misunderstood was Paul was saying, Paul was NOT asking for money: 14 Even so has the Lord ordained that those who preach the gospel should live by the gospel.
15 But I have used none of these rights. Neither have I written this, that such things would be done for me. For it would be better for me to die, than that any man should cancel my glorying [in not asking or taking money or support from you].
16 For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of, for the necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is to me, if I do not preach the gospel!
17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward; but if it is against my will, I am still discharging the gospel that is entrusted to me.
18 What is my reward then? Truly, that when I preach the gospel, I may offer the gospel of Christ WITHOUT charge, so that I do not abuse my right in the gospel.
* Paul said himself if a man not work LET HIM NOT EAT…. A servant of God never eats off the hand of the flock to be burden to them but instead he is to be the opposite of a burden
Do we tithe or not.
In the old testament it does says to tithe.10 percent .
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The teaching of tithing remains a controversial topic in the body of Christ. The fact is that we are New Testament Christians, and not bound to the laws of Moses. According to the law of love which we are bound to, giving is sacrosanct, and when you give to the work of God, give wholeheartedly. In your work/walk with God, you can be called to give even more than your tithe at any time.. So, if you understand the law of love and the principle of giving, you shouldn't be arguing at the concept of giving, whether you call it "TITHE" or "OFFERING". Just be a generous giver, and see God bless you..
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I THANK GOD FOR THIS LESSON, SIR I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK CONCERNING THIS VERY LESSON, THE QUESTION IS, IF ONE IS IN THE CHURCH WHERE THE PASTOR DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT TITHE EVEN WHEN THE ELDERS OF THE CHURCH TRY TO CONVINCE HIM THAT IS GOOD TO TITHE IN THE CHURCH, HE SAID NO, INSTEAD OF TITHE HE WILL CONTINU TO PREACH THE ABOUT BLESSING, AND THIS THING IS COSTING CONFUSEION AMONG THEM EVEN SOME ARE PLANING TO LIEVE THE CHURCH., IN THIS CASE SIR WHAT ADVICE DID YOU HAVE FOR US. PLEASE I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOU CAN HELP US OUT THANK❤️
Have you considered seeking the counsel of God privately on this matter?
Have you read your bible?
You don't need your pastor to preach tithing for you to pay your tithe. The bible says if you know what to do and you don't do it you sin. (James 4:17) Some pastors will even tell you tithe is old testament law. So, if you know the right thing just do it.
@@Margaret_Reuben my sister dont agree with you that i should pay tithe Just because i know what Is good, every scriture in the bible Is there for us to grow then why will some pastor hate to preach about tithe? Tithe Is not free will, Is not offre, and Is not a sawing seed ( TITHE IS TITHE) so Is good let the people know why they should pay It, because there's again in it, why will you hinder your congregation? The pastor Is not the writer of the bible so if he talks about It His members will know more about the Word of GOD, i believe Is not everybody knows how read the bible or to analisy It. Thank's for your comment
@@Rosy-hm1zt please pay tithe because God requires it from every Christian. Your tithe include 10% of your income, time and energy. Do it as a gratitude to God who has blessed you. Are you aware that the occult pay tithe?
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I believe in giving generously, but I refuse to live under the law, it was for the Jews,
Abraham gave before the law.
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Yes he gave a tenth but he didn’t pay tithe. What Abraham did was freewill giving - the same giving the apostles taught and practiced. The word “pay” is only used with Moses because you only “pay” under a law or jurisdiction. You pay tax but you give a begger alms. Abraham gave a tenth. The word “tithe” I not a religious word. It simply means a tenth just like a dozen means twelve. Abraham “gave” a tenth of the spoils he stole from war but when Moses came long he made a law for the Jews to live under when they get to Canaan and because it became a law it also became something you pay, hence the phrase “pay tithe”. The Jews who still follow Moses and do not believe in Jesus have not paid tithe for over 2000 years because around 60 years after Jesus died, the Romans conquered Jerusalem and destroyed their temple along with the levitical geneology so the two requirements to pay tithe under Moses being the temple and the levitical genealogy are no longer there so they do not pay tithe.
@chima chinda, I love your submission....
But we should note that Jesus Christ did not come to scrap away the Law (Matt 5vs17) because the Law in its self is not bad (Romans 7 vs 7to 14) He actually came to fulfill it.
So, the New Testament, which is Jesus Christ, did not by any means scrap out what the Law provided but rather GAVE US A PERFECT WAY and GRACE TO FULFILL them..
I think tithing is not rendered invalid for us Christians by the appearance of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
@@ChimaChindaDev How do you explain Jesus telling his disciples to give to Cesar what is Cesar's and give to God what is God's? Or Malachi 3:10, has God changed so much in 2000 years? "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse. Test me on this and see if I will not open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough to handle it." Do ministries today not need to be supported so that they can save souls from going to hell? You are right, 10% is too little - we should be giving 20% to ministries to stop people from going to hell. Jesus, "Give and it shall be given unto you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together shall men give into your bosom, for with the same measure you give shall it be measured back to you." It's true, you don't have to give under the new covenant; you get to give. The rich is in the tithe. I don't look to the Jews for guidance - they don't even know their messiah came.
@@nataliewilkinson8347 Let me assist with answering your questions and hope it helps.. First of all you should learn the context of the scriptures, Mark 12:17 The Message (MSG)
Jesus said, “Give Caesar what is his, and give God what is his.” Their mouths hung open, speechless.
Jesus was not addressing his desciples or followers but those who were trying to tempt him into saying something that would get him arrested by the Roman empire, and those men were sent by the religious leaders...Also this scripture does not refer to giving, however this scripture refers to "ownership" or "lordship", Ceasar owns the coin and God owns the body, Ceasar's face on the coin and God's image and his likenesses in mankind. This has nothing to do with tithing!
Mal 3:10, was addressed to priests in the OT and not the church, "Windows of heaven" refers to those who had no access to the kingdom of heaven, you're worried about windows whilst we have full access of what they didn't..Ephesians 2:6 "And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,"
All believers have full access to the throne room of God, God's right hand, God's heart, which is far better than being outside and hoping for windows to open up... To we should give 20% is an error, if that's how you feel to give then do so... there's nowhere written that we should give 20%! Now I believe we should give but don't make sentiments and guilt (using souls) to stand above the Word of God. NB: Jesus sent us to the world to preach the gospel and not to build ministries, however if ministries are built then the needs of the people should be above the concerns of the buildings. Acts 2:45 "They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need."
just give generously and cheerfully to the advancement of the kingdom of God. QED
You don’t need to made Bible or Christianity a complicated thing, Jesus is simplicity personified, no complex explanations in passing any of his sermons across.
Whenever it comes to pastors and tithe, they go round round and round with complex references all over the scriptures, crisscrossing both the new and Old Testament just to make a simple point. I want to collect your money
You simply not been wise with ur response. If you cannot honour God with little things like tithe.youre yet to begin a journey with God.wake up.
@@Jinyebo you are simply blind and gullible, which makes your spiritual condition a pitiable one.
make reference to any part in the life of the early church, where any of the apostles collected tithe.
how comes when it comes to tithe, you and your criminal cohorts, jump to the old testament, and forget that when the high preast was changed the laws to changed.
It's you here you can reason and read the scripture and has given Arome the one to think and read the bible for you. Read you bible, Arome here is just playing on your gullibility
Please what's the name of the message?
😢🎉❤ Amen
The issue of tithes, changes every preacher to turn against the truth. apostle never taught about tithes even Jesus himself the son of God. Abraham tithed once with the spoils of the war. so, blood washed Christian will reverse the power of the blood by not paying tithes. I like this apostle he has profound teaching, tithes and Jesus are not friends.
Pls I want to ask, if someone owe you money, do you pay tithe when you get that money?
Yeah
Did you get interest from that money?
(which I don't expect you to charge interest on money borrowed to another as a believer... Unless you are into it as a business. But, if in case you have charged interest...)
Pay 10% of the interest (the least that's expected of you as a believer, you can give more than 10%, as the spirit leads).
If you didn't charge and gain interest... You don't need to pay tithe of the money returned (since it's expected that you've paid tithe of the main amount before borrowing it out).
However, you can give out of the money (or everything sef) to the Lord as the spirit leads.
Note that tithing is a system designed for us as a believer to ensure our CONSISTENCY in supporting the desires of God on earth.
10% is the stipulated amount... Aside that, no one should coarse you into giving anything you don't want to give.
10% is dedicated to the Lord's cause and 90% is all yours.
Having this mindset makes you a consistent partner with God in His business.
Yes, you should give liberally... That's the NEW TESTAMENT STANDARD...
However, someone still struggling with letting go of 10%, how will he give 50% even if the Holy Spirit lay demand on it.
The same way he's struggling to let 10% go is the same way he'll struggle with every other contrary instruction.
How do you think he will be so liberal to obey instructions like "Empty your account?"
Like, what!
He will even bind that spirit and call it the voice of poverty.
Like Apostle said "Tithing is O Level requirement for Consecration."
A lot of people just try to cover their inconsistencies with "we give liberally."
Don't mind them...
This clip is part of a series called "spiritual covering" which the apostle is currently running in his HQ
He has specifically promised to teach in detail on matters such as the one you asked
Stay tuned to his RUclips channel "Apostle Arome Osayi" and he will break it down for you thoroughly in the series
Tithing is not for the Christian.. how can you say u r cursed when u r already blessed in Christ....
HHHH IS IT FOR PAGAN???
@@estherkabebe4307 for the jew..
If you continue to practice sin(robbing God) then you are accursed.
You were grafted into a covenant both Jews and Gentiles.
You should say that the 10 commandments is only for Jews too.
@@greenpastureministrygpm4289 your understanding of Christianity and Christian doctrine is very low... it is by grace we are saved and not by works... what God demands is we accept Jesus and all things are freely given to us... if you want to continue in stupid laws like tithe that's up to u but not for a follower of Christ. Is tithing part of the 10 commandments? Even the very 10 commands are fulfilled in Christ, Jesus said a new commandment I give u, love your neighbour as He loved us... if we can sacrifice for one another through love then automatically the love of God is in us... go back to your foundations
@@TheologyUnmasked :
Right, so we should keep robbing people and robbing God because Jesus fulfilled the laws.
Ok
How is robbery an expression of love again??
I am loving God by robbing Him.
1 Corinthians 16:22
If anyone does NOT LOVE THE LORD, let that person be CURSED! Come, Lord!
Why Apostles did not practise tithe ?
Is it everything that was done by the Apostles that was written down?
Is it written anywhere that the Apostles did not tithe?
Who ever the son sets free is free indeed 💪💪,and whoever does one law will be judged under the law,foolish galitians came to Christ by believing and later practiced circumcision for holiness,tithe is a a law, we give by the spirit and we give generaciouly and joyfully to where the spirit leads us.
@@davidogbodu5841 So are you saying that the Bible is incomplete? how is it that when it comes to tithe is only incomplete? recommend where else it is written because no where in the Bible the early church and apostles of old have tithed or received or commanded tithe
@@lwandomaqhashalala7631
In case you don't know... Tithing is already a consistent practice among the jew. They do it by default.
When the move of the Holy Spirit came, it didn't need to teach them tithing anymore (they were already doing it).
But, the Holy Ghost needed to teach them how to give liberally.
So, when the new move began to permeate, it was notable that it went into record.
"They sold possessions, brought the proceeds, and laid them at the apostle's feet..." Act 4:34
That was a strange move at the time and that's why it went on record... Tithing was a common practice... Jesus said it (Matt. 23:23)
Besides, the NEW TESTAMENT STANDARD is about liberal giving... Not necessarily tithing.
But, because tithing is not the emphasis of the New Testament Church doesn't cancel out tithing.
In fact, consistently giving 10% of increase, for some people, is the definition of their librality.
Such people, if they have more... They will give willing!
But, tell me... How will someone who struggles to give 10% liberally give 40%?
How will such persons obey the "Empty your account" instructions?
Like the Apostle said... You can't be unfaithful in giving 10% and claim to be faithful in 60%...
For someone who is faithful in 10%, it's only a matter of time before he hears the give 20% instruction... Then the 30%, 40%, etc.
And you know what, because he has passed the 10% stage, he won't struggle for long with the other stages.
That's the whole summary of Apostle's teaching.
We know you have Eisegesis...
We know you have Rhema...
But, calm down and listen...
Meditate on these things and we won't have to debate on this tithing matter again.
Itz reli nur nezezary!
Honezly...
@@thelivingalters2587
Tithing is not a law... It's a principle... "The Principle of Honor"... Honor unto God!
Tithing existed in principle before the law of Moses.
Garden of Eden, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph...
Those who tithe are not fulfilling the law... They are engaging a principle... The principle of honor unto God.
I disagree with some parts of this sermon.
Hmmmmmmmmmm
This guy is funny....he speaks without knowing what he is saying. He doesn't know that though l don't believe in his god l gave a huge amount toward the building of his church. He doesn't know that the same people he prays against are the same people giving toward his ministry behind the scenes. Christians forget that the God of the universe and galaxies doesn't need your 10% to bless you. Actually we are already blessed through our abilities. I don't believe in his Jesus and God but l help a lot of Christians who believe in his Jesus. Why are Christians full of hatred toward people who don't believe in their doctrine?
Nobody is against your doctrine of helping Christians and for sure that's why you have been prospering but if you were led in the heart to do so it is Because God is the one who led you to do it, and if you think you have been saving the church you are totally mistaken and you can ask your money back or don't give it out again but know our God is real he has more than enough channels to finance his kingdom. publishing it doesn't even value you it diminishes your Value, May God give you understanding🙏
What hatred are you talking about??
Which bible are you reading??
Who are you referring to as this guy. Who or whatever you believe in can you refer to with same words. He doesn't need your donation to build. It's the Lords Church and He will build without you. Remember the pride of nebuchadnezzar ended him in the Bush.
The principles he's talking about apply to the people who belong to the Kingdom of God, this message isn't for you...that's why whether you tithe or not you're not affected . The message is for believers in Christ
I agree on "consecration" and "trusting in the Lord" but the issue of accursed things you're committing crime for not tithing etc.. then what would you say about the early church and apostles who never ever ever ever tithed a day in their life? I am not speaking against giving, I believe in giving cheerfully as the Bible says but this teaching is disturbing... Christ became the curse for us Gal 3:10, trusting God with everything is what I believe he wanted to teach about but other than that; it's all fallacy because even the early disciples never started at 10% because they sold everything... the starting point of every giving is willingness and cheerfulness by responding to God's love and also having the revelation that you belong to Him (there generosity lies).. no need to make people believe that you prosper by tithing; the true honor God demands is to offer our bodies above all else Romans 12:1
Bro or sister tithe begins from the book of genesis study the word,and all you'll be doing is grow spiritually when you hear such sermon go through the book of malachi and see what God says about tithe....God bless you
@@collinsmusonda9061 I have... just because it appears before the law, in the law it doesn't mean it applies to believers... if you can point out to me where in the early church this was practiced then I would agree with you, the early church structure is what God intended to build... I can also show you where Jesus fulfilled tithe requirement in the scriptures
How exactly did Christ become a “curse” for us? Seems like your reading without understanding. We are to sew back into the church, not for personal wants and gains but for it’s God’s money. We act like we own anything around here when we don’t. God’s about remove and take away, then what will folks have to say? Ya’ll to comfortable debating, you won’t have time when the economy crashes and food is scarce to be questioning this and that, read your book. The bible speaks on why God says we should, Apostles served God, they don’t make the rules nor do we follow or serve them.
@@CopperSkinnedMamii Looks like you are confused mam, read my comments again and again and again before you type unconsencrated comments... I asked show me one scripture in the NT that says if you don't tithe money as you claim then economic whatever you claim will crash... and also show me where the early church and apostles of old did it, if you can't, then stop it now with your economic threats that empty, threaten yourself instead
Dont tithe if you dont want to. Nobody forces you. Tithing is more an honour principle than a money principle. Tithing is from Genesis... 400years before the law. There are some practices Jesus spoke against and tithing is not one of them. lf you feel that you dont want to tithe...DONT. you will not go to hell because of it.. but let those of us who have been graced with that revelation continue to celebrate God' s provision in our lives.
TITHING ISN'T FOR CHRISTIANS. PLEASE CAN YOU NAME ONE OF THE APOSTLES FOLLOWING JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF PAID. AFTER THEY'RE CALLED CHRISTIANS. ITS PAST. PLEASE IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND KINDLY LOOK FOR DR BRO. DAN OWUSU ASIAMAH OF CHURCH OF CHRIST FROM GHANA ON TITHING. THANK YOU
READ HEBREW 7 AND MATHEW 23
and tell why tithes isn't for christians
Well said, were did we c d apostles collecting tithe frm d church
@@gabrieldavid-fi4mv:
Do the apostles have to tell you that stealing from anybody is a sin before you know you ought not to steal??
Didn't God Himself call refusal to tithe "a robbery"??
Shouldn't you obey the 10 commandments??
The apostles didn't talk about tithing but they spoke of keeping the 10 commandments.
You are still required to keep the 10 commandments.
Romans 2:22
You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you ROB TEMPLES?
The HOUSE OF GOD is the TEMPLE OF GOD. The BODY OF CHRIST is this TEMPLE.
He said to Tithe that there may be FOOD IN HIS HOUSE(THE BODY OF CHRIST) for the WORKERS OF THE TEMPLE.
Robbing a man's house is to rob the man. Robbing God's house is to rob God.
Do you ROB THE TEMPLE(HOUSE) OF GOD??
Pls if you won't pay is your money and those paying too is their money and bliv so what's your problem . Or are people borrowing from you to pay their tithes....
Payment of tithes is not giving, it is going back to the yoke of bondage of Law. It is not giving in the same way that paying tax is not giving. Abraham gave a tenth but he didn’t pay tithe. What Abraham did was freewill giving - the same giving the apostles taught and practiced. The word “pay” is only used with Moses because you only “pay” under a law or jurisdiction. You pay tax but you give a beggar alms. Abraham gave a tenth. The word “tithe” is not a religious word. It simply means a tenth just like a dozen means twelve. Abraham “gave” a tenth of the spoils he stole from war but when Moses came long he made it a law for the Jews to live under when they get to Canaan and because it was now a law it became something you paid, hence the phrase “pay tithe” started. The Jews who still follow Moses today and do not believe in Jesus have not paid tithe for over 2000 years because around 60 years after Jesus died, the Romans conquered Jerusalem and destroyed their temple along with the levitical geneology so the two requirements to pay tithe under Moses being the temple and the levitical genealogy are no longer there so they do not pay tithe. What they do today is Tzedekah which simply means free will giving to the poor or justice. It’s a practice they will do until their supposed messiah comes back and rebuilds their temple and restores the levitical geneology. Christ has redeemed us from every requirement of the law - we have clean slate and we owe God no dime of tithe. Tithing is not for Christians and it is fraudulent teach people to pay tithes. It’s like telling someone in Nigeria that he owes tax to the government of Great Britain. The Jews in Jerusalem under Moses do not pay tithe yet Nigerians under grace are taught to pay tithes in Nigeria. It’s really sad.
Right and you are aren't under the government of God's kingdom??
Why do you even pay taxes??
Isn't it an acknowledgement of the fact that the government of that country partners with you to ensure that you are able to transact successfully?? So, you give the government it's rightful share as an acknowledgement of ITS PARTNERSHIP.
So, in your head, you became a Christian and WEREN'T A part of a KINGDOM OR GOVERNMENT(GOD'S GOVERNMENT) that ensures that you succeed in your business endevours by giving you certain benefits.
Or maybe you just don't realize that your tithe is an acknowledgement of the fact that you didn't get that money ALL alone but that you did it in partnership with the GOVERNMENT OF GOD.
It is robbery to take that which rightfully BELONGS TO YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER.
@@greenpastureministrygpm4289 I see you're a ministry but you've been badly taught. The kingdom of is not like the kingdom of men. Our patnership with God is not in carnal things but in the Spirit. The sign of our partnership is the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
What is the kingdom?
Romans 14:17
"For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost."
Love, joy, peace IN the Holy Ghost. Not IN material things.
Even the idea of taxation was faulted by Jesus.
Matthew 17:24-27
"24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are sons children free."
Jesus was asked to pay temple tax and he asked Peter, in the kingdoms of this world, who pays tax, the sons or strangers.
Peter answered, strangers. Jesus then says, the sons are free from paying.
We are sons of God, we are not strangers in His kingdom. Sons pay nothing.
If in the earthly kingdoms, sons are free, how much more in God's Kingdom where we are sons of the living God.
Look, the apostles learnt directly, one on one from God (Jesus). He even had a 40 day teaching seminar with them after resurrection. If Jesus taught them to pay tithe and follow Moses we would have known because they would have taught it especially to the foreigners in Corinth, Colossae, Ephesus, Rome and so on but not once did they practice Moses' payment of tithes or teach it.
The spirit of the new testament is generousity. Let every man purpose in his heart what he wants to give.
If you decide on your own to give a tenth of your monthly salary then it's fine but payment of tithes out of compulsion for God to bless you or for partnership is false.
God has already partnered with you by justifying you and living in you. He is now your father and you do not need to pay any money to your father to show partnership.
Your father is your father. Bless your heart.
@@ChimaChindaDev :
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,
Kingdom simply means a king's territory or DOMAIN. King's DOMAIN(KING- DOM).
We became Jesus's territory or DOMAIN by the PURCHASE of HIS BLOOD. The nation is not the LAND but the people. We(our very lives and every aspect of it) are an extension of that heavenly kingdom on the earth.
So, yes, it affects EVERYTHING you do, both the eating, drinking, and everything else. The MANNER in which a man does these things can infact show the kingdom he identifies with.
The LOVE, JOY, PEACE that you see are the fruits of having Jesus RULE OVER YOUR LIFE. It is the result of HIS GOVERNANCE.
There are other fruits like SELF CONTROL. A man drinking alcohol without self control definitely isn't representing the kingdom because that results in drunkenness. Your interpretation of Romans 14 is flawed.
So, the kingdom cuts across every aspect of our lives.
Colossians 3:17
And WHATEVER(eating, drinking, business,...) YOU DO, whether in word or deed, do it ALL IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
I think we can agree that anything done is the NAME OF JESUS is DONE IN THE NAME OF THE KINGDOM. From this scripture, the kingdom affects EVERYTHING, even eating and drinking.
Anyone who does things in the name of a company is IN PARTNERSHIP with the company.
That is by the way.
About Matthew 17:24-27
Let me put it this way;
Yes, Sons aren't REQUIRED TO PAY TAXES but they aren't ALLOWED TO ROB OTHERS EITHER.
They aren't allowed to rob their business partner.
Sons give to ceasar what is Ceasar's and they give to God what is God's.
The Tithe is God's.
They don't steal the proceeds of God's share.
All Sons of the kingdom do ALL THINGS in Jesus Name so ALL SONS are in PARTNERSHIP with God's GOVERNMENT(which is why I used taxation to explain the point of tithing) at ALL times.
Romans 8:14
"As many as are LED(LEADERSHIP OR GOVERNANCE) by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God"
The final scripture I will use to cement my point is this;
Deuteronomy 14:1
You are children of your God...
Israelites were children of God yet they were required to pay tithes because they are in partnership with Him.
He was also their father and yet they are required to pay tithe. So, this new position we have in Christ as sons of God doesn't exempt us from paying the tithe.