This is what i dont get about people fighting warlock like hello? The counter play is not that hard just dont attack the warlock and leave the game its that simple smh
@@Firebox720all jokes aside I am just hoping that they will cook something up that's actually fun because as it is we just have not fun meta after not fun meta but seeing that leveling up is this slow and (from early screanshots) you have to be level 75 to multie class on 2 charters or something like that this game will actually become a job instead of a game
@@beh256I mean the way they’re doing things is likely that once multi-class is out, leveling up will be easier. Would suck if it comes out and people already have 2 or 3 classes level 30+
hey, just wanted to say thank you for how in depth your explanations are when it comes to technical details with the builds. Really helps me a lot : ^)
Watching you run the w key meme warlock has inspired me to run the w key meme cleric build to counter it out there. Judgement to punish phantomize, high will for mr, armor, a the 50% pdr perk. Dont need to chase, they have w key into me. No spells, who needs em, thats for skill checks. We stat checking today
Important tip: With the new multiclassing system: you can get staff mastery from wizard and two handed damage bonus from barb, combine that with dark reflection and will soul collector. Stack will + MS and get to around 280-300 with staff out and 330 (new max) with phantomize. Then you will literally 1-2 tap any class.
Thanks for the video! If you use Kris dagger and the crystal ball youll get 6 more damage on dark reflect and be faster than crystal sword. Busted build!
13:45 Not sure if they fixed it yet but that extract in goblin cave is the only one I know of that shows rocks (appears to be taken) even though it may not have been yet.
Absolutely insane. Thanks for the guide. I've been improving but still get crushed in pvp sometimes. Would you say it just takes time? I've got a little over 500 hours but still get crushed sometimes
Hi firebox i disovered u recently and i abso love ur content.Ive been trying this warlock build and had much sucess but i have hard time against mages,could you give me some advice if you have time for it?
Because most people don't have high magic dmg resistance. That combined with how high his magic power bonus is, he will do a lot more damage with additional magic damage, since it scales with the power bonus.
Nice build, made me alot of money so far we gotta milk it till its nerfed to the ground. Personally i would recommend running gravewolf gloves with some vigor or smth they are super cheap right now
Spell cast speed nerf + holy strike radius nerf are two big ones that directly impact solo cleric. Now if you build a slow tank cleric, your lack of range and speed shows even more now because holy strike is garbage.
I'm thinking they should probably un-nerf BoC and then just nerf it's scaling a lot. It's weird now where it's OP when you have gear but kinda meaningless in normals with no gear. It should probably just be good and useful in normals and high roller, but it's in a bad spot right now. Also not opposed to nerfing dark reflection to not scaling at all. I'd say if they just made it 10 true dark damage, it'd be fine. Or just remove it, that's okay too.
A couple of times there I think you would have died if people just brought explosive bottles with them, I've killed plenty of warlocks that try and phantomize towards me. Even with the high MR warlock have they literally take double damage when they're phantomized so it shreds them.
It's not a massive note, but I figured I wanna make mention of it since I'm a stats nerd and hearing 60dmg on reflect with no base magic damage weapon out, didn't sound right. With 0 Base magical dmg from a casting weapon (spellbook, crystal ball, staff) 56.1% magical dmg bonus (your magical power bonus with the crystal sword out) and +15 additional magical damage, you will be doing exactly 40.61 dmg on a 0% magical resist player. That being said, if you decided to change to a crystal ball/spellbook with a base 6 magical damage bonus, it would instead be ~56 damage on a neutral magical resist player. I'm not denying it's insane effects, but just didn't sound right so I ran it through a calc real quick.
@@Firebox720 My fault, I calced in full without mentioning that. It is exactly 30.61 without any soul collector stacks and 40.61 with soul collector stacks. The only thing being scaled by soul collector is the base 10 damage from dark reflection, hence why the exact 10 damage difference.
Just a small correction: Dark Reflection with full Soul Collector will "only" hit for about 40 damage, because additional magic damage doesn't scale with magic power. Still pretty busted though.
Is this true? Even without magic power I have +15 add damage and DR deals 10. That would be 50 damage when scaled with +100%. But I've heard you can 1 tap an ungeared rogue.
@@Firebox720 It will deal 10 * (1 + 1,5 (from 150% mpower)) + 15 = 40 damage. If you had a purple staff instead of the crystal sword it would deal (10 + 8 (from staff)) * (1 + 1,5) + 15 = 60
@@Firebox720one good change i thought off was to only trigger it when the warlock Blocks with a shield, this way there‘s at least sind interaction there (still Need to remove dark Share scaling lmao)
dark reflection would be fine if it was just flat 10 true magic damage with NO modifiers it would make it so you can't hit a warlock if you are low but you can't even hit a warlock at full hp right now without getting wrecked. Also with them removing it from the game taking damage when u hit someone is just a bad mechanic. Thorns has never been fun in pvp period.
tried this build out and on my first run killed a BiS wiz and cleric w/ a pelt on him.. needless to say it's already payed for itself. this prob needs to get nerfed.
Dark reflection being a flat damage rebound is bad balance. There is a reason that most games that have a rebound mechanic of any kind use a formula that looks like "reflect X% of the damage you take up to a maximum of Y damage" instead of "deal x damage to melee attackers that hit you"
@Firebox720 making it a passive perk instead of a spell or active ability is also a problem. Damage reflect can be a fine mechanic, but it really needs a cooldown, and a duration that makes it possible to wait it out rather than being always active unless it's on cooldown. In fact it would be better balance to make BoC a passive cooldown, and dark reflection an activated ability. If BoC was always active unless it was on cooldown, but went on cooldown any time you melee anything while it was up it would still work, but have a higher skill ceiling. And if dark reflection was an activated ability with maybe a 3 or 4 second duration before expiring and going on cooldown it would have counterplay.
it was not until this video released i had a bis set cost me around 10k but when i died with it today it was around 30k with some pieces not even existing in market i bought a budget kit of this build for 4k about an hour ago. Just a warning though u run into a geared barb or archer it's game over everything else is free loot.
@DadGotGamez pvp win fights and snowball you can go in with a 2k kit and kill geared players just dont be scared to lose gear and early on take advantage of the creep rn
Literally every time i spend 2k on a set this wipe, some juiced up fk running this build sneaks up to me first game. Died like a Timmy in 2 hits with 70% pdr -.-
The devs manipulate the competitive scene and censor people while doing so. They've also removed items from some players they deem as toxic while letting a minority rise to the top Virtually uncontested Could've been a fun game.
@@Firebox720 broo I used to fight you allll the time and you were like one of the only handful of people that would be super fun to fight because you were also really good !! I miss it 😭
As sad as it is I agree abuse it so they lose it in the game. Best way to get rid of overpowered crap is to shed light on it and make a video so the devs can see what we experienced
I love warlock but they IM has the easiest out to nerf him and it’s so obvious to me😂 I don’t get why they don’t add a animation of some sort to BOC I have a huge warlock bias but they should add something to slow it down
I’ve bought this exact kit at least three times today, at most it costs 4-4.5k and that’s after inflation. Sorry you can’t make 30k easily just bringing in greens lol
Game is pretty stale and boring. Going to be just ultra sweaty players fighting each other if these broken classes continue. You streamers will be playing by yourselfs basically... lol
they should never have added the goblin cave. now all the cave dwellers are affecting all other players because not every class is perfectly balanced 1v1 like this is street fighter. together with ironmaces inability to come up with creative solutions to problems and just lowering numbers. I'm sure the game is much more fun when BoC does +3 dmg and DR does 5 dmg.
@@Firebox720 i see you lack some basic reading comprehension so let me be extra clear: no one is saying you should lose half your hp by hitting a warlock once. but try to BoC + phantomize then just run at people like a retard in 2v2s or 3v3s and see what happens. we're not playing the same game.
Brother, I really enjoy your content but as you’re getting larger please keep a responsibility of professionalism in mind. I really do love your content but it’s hard to keep watching after comments tearing down Ironmace vs just stating your criticisms. I think we both like this game and want it to succeed, so let help it do so while still giving the criticisms it needs to be better
I thought add magic scaled with will - it does not. However, crystal sword damage does scale so it is still good here. Hard to test these things without a good channel to do so in game.
This is what i dont get about people fighting warlock like hello? The counter play is not that hard just dont attack the warlock and leave the game its that simple smh
Yeah it's really silly. People think they can melee hit a warlock in this game. I hear alt f4 ability works against them tho.
@@Firebox720all jokes aside I am just hoping that they will cook something up that's actually fun because as it is we just have not fun meta after not fun meta but seeing that leveling up is this slow and (from early screanshots) you have to be level 75 to multie class on 2 charters or something like that this game will actually become a job instead of a game
@@beh256I mean the way they’re doing things is likely that once multi-class is out, leveling up will be easier. Would suck if it comes out and people already have 2 or 3 classes level 30+
@hubianhubhub6397 wh..I have 2 classes level 30+ already
hey, just wanted to say thank you for how in depth your explanations are when it comes to technical details with the builds. Really helps me a lot : ^)
Watching you run the w key meme warlock has inspired me to run the w key meme cleric build to counter it out there. Judgement to punish phantomize, high will for mr, armor, a the 50% pdr perk. Dont need to chase, they have w key into me. No spells, who needs em, thats for skill checks. We stat checking today
I finally caved in and joined the masses, playing warlock just with a slightly different build... I hope you enjoy the video!
Important tip: With the new multiclassing system: you can get staff mastery from wizard and two handed damage bonus from barb, combine that with dark reflection and will soul collector. Stack will + MS and get to around
280-300 with staff out and 330 (new max) with phantomize. Then you will literally 1-2 tap any class.
As a cleric main, I appreciate you shedding light on this continued madness. Also, you're just really skilled, great vid.
Thanks. Hoping to be back on cleric some day ....
as a cleric main u should know that cleric counters lock by design
Thanks for the video! If you use Kris dagger and the crystal ball youll get 6 more damage on dark reflect and be faster than crystal sword. Busted build!
13:45 Not sure if they fixed it yet but that extract in goblin cave is the only one I know of that shows rocks (appears to be taken) even though it may not have been yet.
what would be the normals build variant for this? since you cant get a good crystal sword and additional magic damage.
does this damage increase on the crystal sword also work with other stats like magical power, will and stuff like that?
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im confused, when using this build, can you even use the stacks you get from soul collecter?
You're growing bro. Keep up the good work.
Will do, thank you
Absolutely insane. Thanks for the guide. I've been improving but still get crushed in pvp sometimes. Would you say it just takes time? I've got a little over 500 hours but still get crushed sometimes
Yeah, PvP comes with time and practice. A good build helps, too. Glad you enjoyed the video
i don't understand why dark reflection would scale with shard ? shard doesn't scale dark magic ?
Hi firebox i disovered u recently and i abso love ur content.Ive been trying this warlock build and had much sucess but i have hard time against mages,could you give me some advice if you have time for it?
Does this still work with the boc and dark reflection nerfs?
wouldn't malice give you more damage bc you're stacking will? it would also increase magic resist even more
11:40 did you take that +2 all necklace or no
The real fun part is crystal sword phases directly through shields so you can't block it either!
Oh yeah lol that's also pretty "fun".
Killing Euth first clip was so funny. Love watching yall both
Is he a streamer also?
@@vtomb8618 he does yt vids but started streaming recently
why additional over true magic? - also I abused this build to go 100-25 in normal goblin before they nerfed reflect eating stacks
Gotta love that intro.
It's an intro all right.
cleric got destroyed and now i'm trying to warlock but i don't know how to play or what's good
Does this build work in current wipe?
why additional magic dmg over true magic dmg?
Because most people don't have high magic dmg resistance. That combined with how high his magic power bonus is, he will do a lot more damage with additional magic damage, since it scales with the power bonus.
Does this work in normal too?
that first clip bro no way you make it through the door i would have been pissed
Used to rock this build when you could stack 24+ add magic dmg, 1 tap everyone
Nice build, made me alot of money so far we gotta milk it till its nerfed to the ground. Personally i would recommend running gravewolf gloves with some vigor or smth they are super cheap right now
Very nice glad you are making some $$$
How do you guys deal with geared wizard in goblin cave…every time I phantom to get close to them they just invis to get away and then magic missle
Your audio spacial awareness is crazy.
18:30 when u said u dont know what fighters are supposed to do i feel like their only play is to hit a windlass shot if they miss it gg.
What change made all the clerics disappear? Geniunely curios
Spell cast speed nerf + holy strike radius nerf are two big ones that directly impact solo cleric. Now if you build a slow tank cleric, your lack of range and speed shows even more now because holy strike is garbage.
I'm thinking they should probably un-nerf BoC and then just nerf it's scaling a lot. It's weird now where it's OP when you have gear but kinda meaningless in normals with no gear. It should probably just be good and useful in normals and high roller, but it's in a bad spot right now. Also not opposed to nerfing dark reflection to not scaling at all. I'd say if they just made it 10 true dark damage, it'd be fine. Or just remove it, that's okay too.
You didn’t show the stats on the gloves
A couple of times there I think you would have died if people just brought explosive bottles with them, I've killed plenty of warlocks that try and phantomize towards me. Even with the high MR warlock have they literally take double damage when they're phantomized so it shreds them.
That is wild I used this build once Warlock nerf came around, then boom now everyone knows about it
My duo the rank 1 warlock multiple times has been running this for months lmao it’s not new
Imagine everyone knowing about a build thats been there since the release of warlock 😅 crazy
@@IamShemsAldin It also wasn’t heavily publicized, now it is going to get more publicity making gear prices rise
Rofl... lol. Imagine thinking you are a unique snowflake in this game. Yeah ultra complex skill trees and abilities. .....😂😊
@@kreiganlegion 😂😂😂
It's not a massive note, but I figured I wanna make mention of it since I'm a stats nerd and hearing 60dmg on reflect with no base magic damage weapon out, didn't sound right. With 0 Base magical dmg from a casting weapon (spellbook, crystal ball, staff) 56.1% magical dmg bonus (your magical power bonus with the crystal sword out) and +15 additional magical damage, you will be doing exactly 40.61 dmg on a 0% magical resist player. That being said, if you decided to change to a crystal ball/spellbook with a base 6 magical damage bonus, it would instead be ~56 damage on a neutral magical resist player. I'm not denying it's insane effects, but just didn't sound right so I ran it through a calc real quick.
I don't see you mention the 100% damage bonus from soul collector
@@Firebox720 My fault, I calced in full without mentioning that. It is exactly 30.61 without any soul collector stacks and 40.61 with soul collector stacks. The only thing being scaled by soul collector is the base 10 damage from dark reflection, hence why the exact 10 damage difference.
goblins rn is just warlock v warlock and if your not warlock you just lose
Tons and tons of Warlocks right now indeed
Man how do you manage to avoid Barbarians. They are in every game I join. I dont think this build beats a geared barbarian. 200 health 50% plus MR.
this build is nerfed?
It's so sad that equipment and build influence fights so much, often without even giving you a chance to win.
You can compete in greens.
Just a small correction: Dark Reflection with full Soul Collector will "only" hit for about 40 damage, because additional magic damage doesn't scale with magic power. Still pretty busted though.
Is this true? Even without magic power I have +15 add damage and DR deals 10. That would be 50 damage when scaled with +100%. But I've heard you can 1 tap an ungeared rogue.
@@Firebox720 It will deal 10 * (1 + 1,5 (from 150% mpower)) + 15 = 40 damage. If you had a purple staff instead of the crystal sword it would deal (10 + 8 (from staff)) * (1 + 1,5) + 15 = 60
Only the base damage plus magic damage from weapons (not to be confused with magical weapon damage on crystal sword) gets scaled with magic power
@@maninblack1161 so staff is better with Dark Reflection ?
The warlock at the beginning is Euthafro xD
What would be a good build for Warlock now?
I have not played warlock yet his wipe but I've seen the magic healing build going around
reflection needs hard nerfs, shouldnt scale off add/true dmg and shouldnt work with shards. i shouldnt lose half my hp for attacking someone
I'd prefer if they removed dark reflection from the game or changed how the perk works.
@@Firebox720one good change i thought off was to only trigger it when the warlock Blocks with a shield, this way there‘s at least sind interaction there (still Need to remove dark Share scaling lmao)
@@Firebox720 yea ive said they should remove it for a while, but i doubt that will happen so i feel like these are more possible alternatives
Yo it’s mr 1v3, I hope Dungeonborne comes out soon
dark reflection would be fine if it was just flat 10 true magic damage with NO modifiers it would make it so you can't hit a warlock if you are low but you can't even hit a warlock at full hp right now without getting wrecked. Also with them removing it from the game taking damage when u hit someone is just a bad mechanic. Thorns has never been fun in pvp period.
Firebox, LTSama and Euthafro all in the same lobby lol
Please tell you got that bear pendent 11:34
Saw it live, he didn’t
@@1nicesteak109 damn
Honestly Reflection needed the nerf more than BoC or Shadow Touch
tried this build out and on my first run killed a BiS wiz and cleric w/ a pelt on him.. needless to say it's already payed for itself. this prob needs to get nerfed.
how is your game so clear in the storm? i cant see shit when im in it
Turn in game brightness setting up to max if you haven't already
Dark reflection being a flat damage rebound is bad balance. There is a reason that most games that have a rebound mechanic of any kind use a formula that looks like "reflect X% of the damage you take up to a maximum of Y damage" instead of "deal x damage to melee attackers that hit you"
It's just bad in general. Hitting someone to take damage feels like a lame mechanic.
yep, had many times I get punished for a warlocks misplay
@Firebox720 making it a passive perk instead of a spell or active ability is also a problem. Damage reflect can be a fine mechanic, but it really needs a cooldown, and a duration that makes it possible to wait it out rather than being always active unless it's on cooldown.
In fact it would be better balance to make BoC a passive cooldown, and dark reflection an activated ability. If BoC was always active unless it was on cooldown, but went on cooldown any time you melee anything while it was up it would still work, but have a higher skill ceiling. And if dark reflection was an activated ability with maybe a 3 or 4 second duration before expiring and going on cooldown it would have counterplay.
That build looks expensive. How much does that kit run?
it was not until this video released i had a bis set cost me around 10k but when i died with it today it was around 30k with some pieces not even existing in market i bought a budget kit of this build for 4k about an hour ago. Just a warning though u run into a geared barb or archer it's game over everything else is free loot.
@@Zak-jt6nk how do you guys farm so much money? I have like 5k lol.
@DadGotGamez pvp win fights and snowball you can go in with a 2k kit and kill geared players just dont be scared to lose gear and early on take advantage of the creep rn
I ran a similar build last week and was bullied by a naked cleric 😂
Literally every time i spend 2k on a set this wipe, some juiced up fk running this build sneaks up to me first game. Died like a Timmy in 2 hits with 70% pdr -.-
The devs manipulate the competitive scene and censor people while doing so.
They've also removed items from some players they deem as toxic
while letting a minority rise to the top
Virtually uncontested
Could've been a fun game.
The Malice perk gives more magic resistance and magic power bonus when I equip it over Antimagic. Is there a reason that Malice isn't used?
Antimagic won't show in your stats because it does not apply for cleric spells!
@@thenumbertrenton Makes sense!
Did you used to play the culling on Xbox or no
Sure did
@@Firebox720 broo I used to fight you allll the time and you were like one of the only handful of people that would be super fun to fight because you were also really good !!
I miss it 😭
Have you lost the kit yet? I'm curious what ends up beating this
I did finally die. Funny enough, it was a juiced PDR fighter. I got overconfident fighting. Got him down to like 10 hp or something
@@Firebox720 Highly relatable. My overconfident W key kills me more than other players skill
I ask because I'm running this build now and haven't lost but I know it's coming lol
As sad as it is I agree abuse it so they lose it in the game. Best way to get rid of overpowered crap is to shed light on it and make a video so the devs can see what we experienced
I love warlock but they IM has the easiest out to nerf him and it’s so obvious to me😂 I don’t get why they don’t add a animation of some sort to BOC I have a huge warlock bias but they should add something to slow it down
dark reflection still a thing in the game, bruh
devs killing it...
How many fucking times are you going to kill Euth lmfao
Still work? 👀
Haha this is pretty dated I recommend staying tuned to new videos for build ideas and such
Yea they need to just remove corruption blade and/or reflection. Its ridiculous
you are so sweaty playing whatever is OP at the time, until devs fix this and you play the next one. i can smell you from here
no my build is gonna cost so much now so many people slept on the nuke build
Sorry about that. If my past videos have taught me anything, this build may indeed become more expensive.
in NORMS this does not work
I keep telling everyone i see, dark reflection should be nerfed, bcs i find it dumb
and i play caster warlock...
I’m so sad you are posting this been running this build for so long
Bought this build, first round I get cngblade in my lobby 🤣 Rip me
This man said “crystal shard stacks” like We playing RuneScape lol.
Warlocks have been 2 shotting ppl since always and now they can 1 shot.. :S The whole aspect of swinging sword/staff with magic dmg is just retarded..
This needs to not be a play style. Run ppl down 1 hit. If you even fought a ranger you’d just run away
"kind of" absurd
balanced, i mean this izi if you have MR but its okey
instructions unclear I followed the instructions and got 2 shot by bonk wizard
Fun video, but don't spoiler in the title you never die, it is less exciting this way.
How to make 30k gold on warlock. Step one obtain a 10000 gold kit.
Hate to burst your hate bubble but the kit at start of stream cost 2.5k gold for me to build. Found some cheap gear on market.
That kit literally right now would not cost 10k and the prices have been increasing since yesterday.
@@adamtechow6784 Yeah even though prices increase when I stream and make videos, this kit in no way is 10k lol.
I’ve bought this exact kit at least three times today, at most it costs 4-4.5k and that’s after inflation. Sorry you can’t make 30k easily just bringing in greens lol
Game is pretty stale and boring. Going to be just ultra sweaty players fighting each other if these broken classes continue.
You streamers will be playing by yourselfs basically... lol
I didnt enjoy this. I watched the whole thing and kept thinking how awefull for the game this is.
Good. It isn't good for the game.
all players in this vid are soo bad.
they should never have added the goblin cave. now all the cave dwellers are affecting all other players because not every class is perfectly balanced 1v1 like this is street fighter. together with ironmaces inability to come up with creative solutions to problems and just lowering numbers. I'm sure the game is much more fun when BoC does +3 dmg and DR does 5 dmg.
Yes, blame goblin caves and not the ability to hurt someone for half their hp when you melee attack them. Good observation and comment on this video
@@Firebox720 i see you lack some basic reading comprehension so let me be extra clear: no one is saying you should lose half your hp by hitting a warlock once. but try to BoC + phantomize then just run at people like a retard in 2v2s or 3v3s and see what happens. we're not playing the same game.
Is anyone selling gold? I want more gold to buy weapons
Brother, I really enjoy your content but as you’re getting larger please keep a responsibility of professionalism in mind. I really do love your content but it’s hard to keep watching after comments tearing down Ironmace vs just stating your criticisms. I think we both like this game and want it to succeed, so let help it do so while still giving the criticisms it needs to be better
I thought magic weapon damage didn’t scale or is additional magical damage an exception
I thought add magic scaled with will - it does not. However, crystal sword damage does scale so it is still good here. Hard to test these things without a good channel to do so in game.
G̶o̶b̶l̶i̶n̶ Warlock Caves
Don't forget the rogues. Tons of them running cut throat
@@Firebox720no, not really 😅
@wispy4652 you're tripping. I just streamed and every lobby has multiple rogues
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