what is really fascinating that S10 team started developing a similar AI following the deepmind papers and just after a year it is in the final in season 14 TCEC and after 14 games it is 7:7 now against S10 on a much much weaker hardware than A0, reminds me when videogame developers open the source code of their product (or make it moddable) and the community makes it better over time, im sure we are in an infant stage of the new era thx DeepMind for making it available
I'm sold. Just bought the book. I find all this so fascinating. I work as a data scientist and my background is in statistics/machine learning. And I play chess. Also I like cake.
Hello Justin .... I hope you are doing great. I would like to be a data scientist . I really appreciate you if you could give me few suggestions like what skills i have to acquire , programming languages and fields of maths ?
@@vasudev16180 sure! Maybe Daniel could help us swap email addresses for a longer discussion, but here are a few ideas to get you started. Statistics is the heart of it. My undergrad was in stats. My graduate work was in finance. Technical skills: SAS. R and Rstudio, SQL and relational database theory. SAS and SQL are very popular and I use them daily for my day to day programming needs. Also a strong mathematical understanding of probability is really important. Exam P from the Society of Actuaries got me up to speed.
Wow, what a great explanation, so profound but elegantly simple, nice review, definitely the best i’ve seen so far, its obvious you have the proper tools to communicate, you just gained a subscriber.
After this presentation it would be impossible to escape the temptation to buy this valuable chess book. I will do it tomorrow morning thru amazon italy.
If you buy through www.newinchess.com it will make the publisher much happier and increase the likelihood of them producing books of this standard in the future.
Just to update, I am currently on page 112 of Gamechanger and the book is amazing! I'm just read "anything for open lines" and its supremely LOL inducing! Alpha absolutely hates having its pieces cramped and will literally do whatever it takes to free itself... Alpha really appears to have something approximating a personality...
Hi Michael, really glad you are enjoying the book. I think we can all learn a great deal from its playing style, and all very clearly explained by the authors.
As Otis Redding once sang: "You've got to give a little, take a little And let your poor heart break a little That's the story of, That's the glory of chess (love)" 😊
I'm boycotting this crap. They develop this god-like chess playing machine, have a bunch of secret, behind the scenes tournaments, only allow very specific people acess to the program, and then don't do anything public with it. We in the chess community could learn so much from this program about openings, endgames, and everything in between, but these assholes are just keeping the program to themselves. I really wish that I was some millionaire/billionaire, I would just offer them like 50 mil for the whole thing, then I'd release it to the public for free (like Stockfish) so that it could be entered into any computer chess tournament, people could improve on it, use it for chess apps/games, just do whatever with it. I'm like so mad that they're shitholing it. It's like going to the moon then never going back, like us Americans did.
So basically the Muzio Gambit is back in play. The book doesn't cover new ground for the serious student, except that AlphaZero refutes the notion that Stockfish is this nearly-perfect Oracle. Anyone who plays through ECM sees that pretty quickly, as Stockfish misses several wins that humans found OTB. AlphaZero is just a green light to play like Morphy. As for some of the analysis in this video I saw one clear mistake just watching it in passing.
Against most white moves, black carries out its threat of ...Bxg3+ followed by bad things for white no matter how he replies. Qe1 is the only sane move to add additional support to g3 (gxf4 gets mated by ...Qxf4).
I haven't checked in the book about that, but I have spoken to Demis Hassabis, the CEO of Deep Mind, and he had no intention of going any further with AlphaZero in competitions. That was not the point of the exercise. They are putting the company's resources into real world applications of the technology.
AlphaZero is not "magic," but a refutation of the notion that the horizon effect no longer exists in programs like Stockfish. The consequence of this mistaken belief was that sacrificing material was much more dangerous than previously thought, and that Steinitz's style proved superior to Morphy's. Stockfish is like a Steinitz cyborg, and now the Morphy cyborg (AlphaZero) shows up to truly challenge it, and Morphy's style won out. What this means is that Stockfish's evaluations cannot be trusted, that even a 3500-rated player (Stockfish) can be crushed, and that a new era of intuitive chess is upon us. This is the style I used to play before copying Stockfish. AlphaZero's thinking is not difficult to emulate: chess is a game-long king hunt, but implementing that style requires a level of technique well beyond that of even our world champion.
Hi Dani. First of all great quick review. I like when you gave so much credit to the authors of the book, that's really respectful. I also have a small wish if you manage to find some time for it. I just watched a game between Karpov vs Yusupov in Moscow 1988(ruclips.net/video/NiJBBasoU-g/видео.html) for like the 20th time and i'm more impressed by it everytime i watch it. It would be my biggest dream come true if you could make an analysis on this game. The game is clearly a masterpiece by Karpov and it is becoming one of my favourite games of all time. Thanks and keep up the good work.
So that rook lift and swing to the kingside is your own understanding and analysis, or does the book go into enough depth that it helps the reader to understand and utilize these moves and variations. I am an amateur player and books that provide understanding are really helpful to me.
PowerPlayChess I have to say thanks because this book has immensely improved my chess opening repertoire, and has given me so much in such a short time. “Chapter 9 March the rook pawn” has helped my game beyond belief. I have literally been able to achieve the exact same structures, and execute the exact same plans with such ease that it shocked me. Alphazero and the books authors have shown me (a beginner) that I can convert a win with some open diagonals and files. Really wish there were more e4 games, but I’m sure I can extrapolate some more plans from the book. As a beginner I truly lacked any significant amount of plans. Especially any real plans without the queen. This book is so organized and perfectly explained, move by move. For example, I was able to double rooks on the queenside 7th rank with ease by shifting my focus back and fourth between the open files on the kingside where I had been pushing my pawns and the queen side where the opponent had gobbled some pawns while my rook invaded. Getting checkmates against players rated higher than me and checkmating opponents over the board that I’ve never been able to beat before. So much activity and genius in this book, and more importantly I can understand it. So glad I purchased this book.
sub-3000 humans should not be attempting to analyze the play of 4000-rated supercomputers. The GM title has been diluted to the point of it being meaningless. A rating of 2750 should now be required to obtain it. That our best players are 700 points below the second-strongest program in the world is a disgrace. At worst, we should be drawing Stockfish every time we play it.
It's fascinating stuff but humans in practice cannot see moves like Bf3; it's almost like looking at a different game. No practical application in terms of one's own games
Not so. I cited in the video the game Dizdarevic-Miles Biel 1985 that contains a similar theme, and there are plenty of other examples. I found the book very practical.
Well why couldn't you learn from a machine? I like the response. You didn't provide any explanation for a baseless question. Skepticism is okay but your comment seemed to be designed to incite ridicule. That being said, I have no problem with your question or the reply. Reads like a fun exchange to me.
@@palefox7212 What do you mean why can't I learn from a machine? If you read what I said wasn't merely about learning. It was about learning to think like a machine. In other words, the supposition here is it's merely about learning principles derived from moves. But, the team has yet to figure out because it has to create a special program to ascetain exactly how the computer managed to figure out chess. In other words there has to be a program written to determine what the method of analysis was and how the computer arrived at its conclusions. Also, computers have a high degree of calculating ability which humans do not possess. So in point of fact it should be obvious to you what I was actually saying that is that I am not a machine and my brain is human. It's a waste of time trying to think like a machine rather than maximizing one's own human ability. Now if King is suggesting that I might pick up better intuition by going over all of these games and maybe that's good.... I guess... but that's only a small part of chess for people at my level.
new in chess sponsors him to review books he likes. if you take note they have many, many books, and in what must be multiple years now that he's been sponsored, he has only a handful of book reviews- because he reviews the books he likes and thinks his audience will like. what on earth does that have to do with selling out?
Don't worry Daniel - we can all recognise a troll when we see one. If anyone has any serious doubts about this book, then have a look at Matthew's own videos on A0.
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Forgot to say, the book is also available in various e-editions...
Are the e-books interactive? That is to say, can I play through the games on my phone?
@@neilmasson3609 I believe so.
@@kramnikstudentc24 Indeed John Bartholomew has just made an in-depth review of the Chessable version.
could you please supply us with the link of the book
@@abdelrhmanelhwary3462 www.chessable.com/game-changer-alphazeros-groundbreaking-chess-strategies-and-the-promise-of-ai-/course/19061/
Maybe Stockfish should buy a copy....
Lolll
Matthew Sadler wrote a great book the Queen's Gambit, in what afaik is a unique Q&A style. He knows how to communicate.
Yes, his QGD book is excellent.
what is really fascinating that S10 team started developing a similar AI following the deepmind papers and just after a year it is in the final in season 14 TCEC and after 14 games it is 7:7 now against S10 on a much much weaker hardware than A0, reminds me when videogame developers open the source code of their product (or make it moddable) and the community makes it better over time, im sure we are in an infant stage of the new era
thx DeepMind for making it available
I'm sold. Just bought the book. I find all this so fascinating. I work as a data scientist and my background is in statistics/machine learning. And I play chess. Also I like cake.
Hello Justin .... I hope you are doing great. I would like to be a data scientist . I really appreciate you if you could give me few suggestions like what skills i have to acquire , programming languages and fields of maths ?
@@vasudev16180 sure! Maybe Daniel could help us swap email addresses for a longer discussion, but here are a few ideas to get you started. Statistics is the heart of it. My undergrad was in stats. My graduate work was in finance. Technical skills: SAS. R and Rstudio, SQL and relational database theory. SAS and SQL are very popular and I use them daily for my day to day programming needs. Also a strong mathematical understanding of probability is really important. Exam P from the Society of Actuaries got me up to speed.
But does the cake like you?!
@@madmentat5255 if by like you mean stick to my gut and make me look like I walk around with a spare tire around my waste, then yes, yes it does.
@@justinwr092 Thank you so much Justin:), Meanwhile, can I prefer python programming language?
Wow, what a great explanation, so profound but elegantly simple, nice review, definitely the best i’ve seen so far, its obvious you have the proper tools to communicate, you just gained a subscriber.
Great coincidence - my book just arrived today as my library informed me :)
Wonderful alpha zero coverage Daniel. Thank you
Excellent introduction and presentation of the chess book. Thanks Daniel for reviewing this!
Brilliant breakdown. They have it at my local library. I'm heading to check it out tomorrow.
Will definitely buy it, thanks Daniel for reviewing this.
After this presentation it would be impossible to escape the temptation to buy this valuable chess book.
I will do it tomorrow morning thru amazon italy.
If you buy through www.newinchess.com it will make the publisher much happier and increase the likelihood of them producing books of this standard in the future.
Excellent review Daniel, as always. I am really looking forward to reading this book soon.
1. Players looking to learn new strategies and improve their chess
2. AI enthusiasts
3. Chess enthusiasts
What if I fit all the 3 bills? :-)
Buy 3 copies for each of you.. Obviously!
Just to update, I am currently on page 112 of Gamechanger and the book is amazing!
I'm just read "anything for open lines" and its supremely LOL inducing!
Alpha absolutely hates having its pieces cramped and will literally do whatever it takes to free itself...
Alpha really appears to have something approximating a personality...
Hi Michael, really glad you are enjoying the book. I think we can all learn a great deal from its playing style, and all very clearly explained by the authors.
I fell in love with Tony Miles's games after reading one of your books, Daniel. 😀 He's a creative player. And so is A0...thanks for this book review!
They should make a dvd series to accompany the book
So I should be using A0 to study and not Stockfish?
Looks great
Alekhine's Block by Charushin, revisited.
I just bought it on kindle for 13,99$. Thank you very much for this review, looking forward to start reading it!
As Otis Redding once sang: "You've got to give a little, take a little
And let your poor heart break a little
That's the story of,
That's the glory of chess (love)" 😊
Damn, now i have to buy a book.
I will try to read this book. :)
I love Sadlers style. If you havent seen his chess24 videos. They are great stuff
we need more book reviews.
I'm boycotting this crap. They develop this god-like chess playing machine, have a bunch of secret, behind the scenes tournaments, only allow very specific people acess to the program, and then don't do anything public with it. We in the chess community could learn so much from this program about openings, endgames, and everything in between, but these assholes are just keeping the program to themselves. I really wish that I was some millionaire/billionaire, I would just offer them like 50 mil for the whole thing, then I'd release it to the public for free (like Stockfish) so that it could be entered into any computer chess tournament, people could improve on it, use it for chess apps/games, just do whatever with it. I'm like so mad that they're shitholing it. It's like going to the moon then never going back, like us Americans did.
So basically the Muzio Gambit is back in play. The book doesn't cover new ground for the serious student, except that AlphaZero refutes the notion that Stockfish is this nearly-perfect Oracle. Anyone who plays through ECM sees that pretty quickly, as Stockfish misses several wins that humans found OTB. AlphaZero is just a green light to play like Morphy. As for some of the analysis in this video I saw one clear mistake just watching it in passing.
might need to pick this up
Does the book cover the endgame play?
No
In 6:23, what happens if white does not play Qe1 but some other move ? I don’t think Qe1 is forced.
Against most white moves, black carries out its threat of ...Bxg3+ followed by bad things for white no matter how he replies. Qe1 is the only sane move to add additional support to g3 (gxf4 gets mated by ...Qxf4).
Do they write anything about DeepMind's plan for AlphaZero for the future?
Will they take part in some kind of chess engine world championship?
I haven't checked in the book about that, but I have spoken to Demis Hassabis, the CEO of Deep Mind, and he had no intention of going any further with AlphaZero in competitions. That was not the point of the exercise. They are putting the company's resources into real world applications of the technology.
Wow, how fuckin lame. I wish someone would buy the program from them and enter it into all the computer chess tournaments.
AlphaZero is not "magic," but a refutation of the notion that the horizon effect no longer exists in programs like Stockfish. The consequence of this mistaken belief was that sacrificing material was much more dangerous than previously thought, and that Steinitz's style proved superior to Morphy's. Stockfish is like a Steinitz cyborg, and now the Morphy cyborg (AlphaZero) shows up to truly challenge it, and Morphy's style won out. What this means is that Stockfish's evaluations cannot be trusted, that even a 3500-rated player (Stockfish) can be crushed, and that a new era of intuitive chess is upon us. This is the style I used to play before copying Stockfish. AlphaZero's thinking is not difficult to emulate: chess is a game-long king hunt, but implementing that style requires a level of technique well beyond that of even our world champion.
AlphaZero has changed Chess
I want this book so bad, but my local Barnes and Nobles is telling me that this book isn't coming out until Feb 15th...
:(
It's like only 8 days right ?or am I missing something?
Just buy it through www.newinchess.com
Hi Dani. First of all great quick review. I like when you gave so much credit to the authors of the book, that's really respectful. I also have a small wish if you manage to find some time for it. I just watched a game between Karpov vs Yusupov in Moscow 1988(ruclips.net/video/NiJBBasoU-g/видео.html) for like the 20th time and i'm more impressed by it everytime i watch it. It would be my biggest dream come true if you could make an analysis on this game. The game is clearly a masterpiece by Karpov and it is becoming one of my favourite games of all time. Thanks and keep up the good work.
So that rook lift and swing to the kingside is your own understanding and analysis, or does the book go into enough depth that it helps the reader to understand and utilize these moves and variations.
I am an amateur player and books that provide understanding are really helpful to me.
I think the book is very instructive. The authors lucidly explain AZ's strategies and what we can learn from them.
PowerPlayChess I have to say thanks because this book has immensely improved my chess opening repertoire, and has given me so much in such a short time. “Chapter 9 March the rook pawn” has helped my game beyond belief. I have literally been able to achieve the exact same structures, and execute the exact same plans with such ease that it shocked me.
Alphazero and the books authors have shown me (a beginner) that I can convert a win with some open diagonals and files. Really wish there were more e4 games, but I’m sure I can extrapolate some more plans from the book.
As a beginner I truly lacked any significant amount of plans. Especially any real plans without the queen.
This book is so organized and perfectly explained, move by move. For example, I was able to double rooks on the queenside 7th rank with ease by shifting my focus back and fourth between the open files on the kingside where I had been pushing my pawns and the queen side where the opponent had gobbled some pawns while my rook invaded. Getting checkmates against players rated higher than me and checkmating opponents over the board that I’ve never been able to beat before. So much activity and genius in this book, and more importantly I can understand it.
So glad I purchased this book.
Allows Ra6-g6?
Ok I got the move order wrong, and I may have missed one or two of the variations, but still :-)
I got three ads for this video, yey me!
sub-3000 humans should not be attempting to analyze the play of 4000-rated supercomputers. The GM title has been diluted to the point of it being meaningless. A rating of 2750 should now be required to obtain it. That our best players are 700 points below the second-strongest program in the world is a disgrace. At worst, we should be drawing Stockfish every time we play it.
It's fascinating stuff but humans in practice cannot see moves like Bf3; it's almost like looking at a different game. No practical application in terms of one's own games
Not so. I cited in the video the game Dizdarevic-Miles Biel 1985 that contains a similar theme, and there are plenty of other examples. I found the book very practical.
I somehow doubt we can learn much from this "black box." How can I learn to think like a machine?
'...and some fell on stony ground...'
@@PowerPlayChess that was kind of a rude response, actually.
Well why couldn't you learn from a machine? I like the response. You didn't provide any explanation for a baseless question. Skepticism is okay but your comment seemed to be designed to incite ridicule. That being said, I have no problem with your question or the reply. Reads like a fun exchange to me.
@@palefox7212 What do you mean why can't I learn from a machine? If you read what I said wasn't merely about learning. It was about learning to think like a machine. In other words, the supposition here is it's merely about learning principles derived from moves. But, the team has yet to figure out because it has to create a special program to ascetain exactly how the computer managed to figure out chess. In other words there has to be a program written to determine what the method of analysis was and how the computer arrived at its conclusions. Also, computers have a high degree of calculating ability which humans do not possess. So in point of fact it should be obvious to you what I was actually saying that is that I am not a machine and my brain is human. It's a waste of time trying to think like a machine rather than maximizing one's own human ability. Now if King is suggesting that I might pick up better intuition by going over all of these games and maybe that's good.... I guess... but that's only a small part of chess for people at my level.
@@Zakdayak I dunno man I was talking shit. What level are you at?
How much did they pay you to make this 15 min ad? Really dont hope you sold out for less than 10K $
new in chess sponsors him to review books he likes. if you take note they have many, many books, and in what must be multiple years now that he's been sponsored, he has only a handful of book reviews- because he reviews the books he likes and thinks his audience will like. what on earth does that have to do with selling out?
That's cute Bob. Your understanding of how the real world works is amasing. Hope you buy the book and be happy in your life 🙂
Don't worry Daniel - we can all recognise a troll when we see one. If anyone has any serious doubts about this book, then have a look at Matthew's own videos on A0.