FIFO Mining MYTHS - BUSTED! | Life of a Fly In Fly Out Worker
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- G’day,
Thanks for tuning in! This time around I’m here to dispel a few FIFO Mining myths. These have all come from statements or questions that I’ve received from you!
Don’t forget to head over to @chillingwithkeithy on Facebook to get the in-between content and it’s the place you can send me messages.
#fifo #mining #mythbuster
Take care 👍
Keithy
Hey Keithy, mate i must say you hit the nail on the head in regards to catching up with people! With my work roster it makes it hard to catch up even making a quick phone call.
I was a concreter and steel fixer of 15 years. In my medical images, I look like I’ve been in a car crash, so I (sadly) gave it away to give mining a go. I’ve been working in processing for a bit over a year now. In my last job I was lucky to be home 8 days a month. Wifey didn’t handle that too well because in the short time that I was home, I wasn’t really home. I was always chronically fatigued, injured and preparing to go back in a day or two. So perspectively, being away for 2 weeks is nothing when I’ll spend equal time at home. Wifey loves it! And as for catching up with mates, my mates don’t actually exist so that’s good too!
The job itself isn’t too bad. It’s pretty cruisey. A good thing about it is where I’m at, us processing and crushing guys do all the loader ops as well so that’s pretty mint!
Mining is something that I never wanted to get into previously. In fact I used to cringe at the thought. But now with the physical state I’m in, it’s pretty much given me a second chance at life. But I know that if I ever had my physical health back, I’d be out in a heartbeat and going back to where I came from.
Good video mate! It’s good to hear about other people’s experiences other than mine. 🤙🏻
Thanks mate, I enjoy reading your response. I agree too - it’s good to read all of the different opinions. It’s great to hear yours too. Thank you 👍🏻
Hi Keithy thanks for busting all the myths. I did hear a story that at the airport all the taxi drivers were lining up to get a fifo worker in their cab thinking all fifo workers earn mega bucks and will give them a nice generous tip. As you said it’s not the case not everyone is 100k plus, only certain trades and skill base earn in excess of that.
Great honest answers 👌 Its easy for people to get the wrong idea 💡 I did an easy at Uni about the stresses of FIFO work. The time away from family and your community was a stand out issue when i reasearched it. Ie Hard to keep up a sport and the valuable connections that gives someone.
Big thanks for your experience sharing. I am a soon-to-be graduate mining engineer and will apply for a graduate program in WA.
That’s great to hear mate, I wish you all the best with that!
Thanks for the info Keithy.
Very fair and knowledgeable advice! I appreciate it.
Thanks mate! Much appreciated
Here in wa there are few company's doing trainee dump truck drivers but they are limited I train alot of them
Thanks for sharing that Robert
Great video 🤙 cheers
Do you think it would be possible to come from the UK for fifo on a working holiday visa and stay in hostels/explore on weeks off? Or do you need a permanent residence in Aus for fifo?
You’d be able to stay where you like in Australia and travel, provided you’re at the same airport each time to fly back to work. You may need to rent a P.O. Box to have an address if the employer wants to send mail. Where the mine flies from will dictate the city you’ll need to “base” yourself in.
And how much earn the truck driver ?
Hey keithy hope you’re doing better, does the company provide a workout area such as a ‘gym’ at these mining facilities?
G’day mate, most mining camps I’ve been to do have pretty well equipped gyms. I can’t say for sure if every mine provides them, but all of the ones I’ve been to have had them.
Hi,tell me how long must work in ? And how many hours must you work à day.????
G’day Kongo,
The work is usually a 12hr shift, and various working rosters.
Is automatic transmission car available to drive at mine site or is it entirely manual gear cars , is driving licence an essential requirement for electrical engineers?
G’day mate, most vehicles are manual, however, a lot of mining companies these days are ordering automatic vehicles for their fleets. That said, there are only a handful of vehicles that are automatic at the moment.
A drivers licence is not 100% necessary for the role of electrical engineer, but it’s likely that someone with a drivers licence will be favourable over someone without.
I lived next to the biggest open caste copper mine in the world Bougainville bcl over 40years ago massive
Unreal! That would be great to see
Hi keith, thanks for the video. You said that there isnt a lot of no qualification jobs ? Ive been seeing jobs on seek for nippers and drillers offsides advertised as entry level jobs with no quals or experience. I want to go to perth on a working hol visa and get into the mines. Im ex army and construction. Low skill set but lots of experience in hard physical work.
I think with great enthusiasm and passion displayed to the companies, you would likely be successful easily at getting the job you’re chasing, especially entry levels. There may be a bit of completion, but attitude and ability shows the real workers compared to the fakes.
Hi mate. Most of the companies
require local experience. How can i get local experience because i haven't found even an entry level job.
G’day mate, are you talking “local” as in Australia, or the town or city near the mine? I think the word “local experience” is pretty broad here!
It does sound like they’re asking you to get a little bit of time and experienced in whichever role you’ve applied for. Or perhaps even some kind of training.
Hi Keith, I've watched quite a few of your mining based vids lately as I think the industry would suit me. Me and the fam are hoping to be over in Oz in 2024, we've already begun the visa process. The Mrs is already sorted with a job in healthcare, my current profession isn't on the desired skills list, so I'm hoping to get involved in something totally new. If the mining industry doesn't take unqualified workers, are there any quick courses I could do over here in England in prep for when I eventually do manage to get over there? Also, are there a few Poms that you know of that got themselves into the mining game? I imagine the banter can get lively at times, especially around world cups and the Ashes. Any advice is greatly appreciated mate, thanks.
G’day Mike, thanks for the comment mate!
Good question mate, and congrats on the planning for the big move.
Your last few months over there might not allow the time to get the qualification advantage when you get here. Do you have a general idea what you might like to do in the mines? There’s a broad range of things, and that will ultimately decide what kind of preparation you can do when you get here.
There’s definitely a few poms in the mines - friendly banter when it comes to sport always add a bit of friendly rivalry at the bar!
25 years FIFO. Excellent appraisal.
Thanks mate 👍🏻
@@Keithy_Wdo you think a backpacker can easily find a fifo occupation (I’ve seen some announces also for casual workers without hr license)? I’m deciding to come to Australia or not next November, my whv expires the first days of December but I’m not sure to come. I’m 35 and if I will not do this experience in Australia I will never do no more.. Thanks if you answer ✌️
G’day mate, it’s unlikely you’ll find casual work in the mines, I’m sorry. To work on a mine site requires quite a lot of entry conditions, training and assurance before you can even begin work, so it would cost a mining company quite a lot to get you up to speed with the safety stuff before you even get the chance to work.
Thankyou
Im Mobile crane operator with licence code 14 iwill be welcom to work there ?
This is all true. Good stuff mate.
Cheers man 👍
Interesting
For the second one they do accept people with no experience but only for TA work, I was super green with no experience and got into roller crew and now I’m doing constant shutdowns
That’s great to hear! What a gig too, you’d get to meet heaps of people in your travels. Shutdown work exposes many different plants, mines and opportunities!
what do you mean by TA work ?
TA stands for Tradesman’s Assistant. Its like a labouring role, without a certificate.
Or you can get a job as a traineeship and after your time you become qualified. Multiple jobs going for greenies bro. I was one myself.
Gidday Keith, mate have you got an email I can fire you through some questions on? Looking for some information on how to break into the industry. Thanks mate.
G’day mate, you can find it within the details for the RUclips channel! If you have trouble locating it there, sing out!
What is the min requirement to work in mining site? Is it possible non experience work in mining site?
G’day mate, as far as minimum requirement, that would be based on the job you go for. You can get a job as a cleaner with no experience if you so desire. The more you want to earn, the more skilled you’ll need to be.
If you arrive with no experience you will spend time on the time getting training (provided you are successful getting a job)
@@Keithy_W is it possible for me as whv employee to settle full time job in fifo?
I am unsure on that mate, I’m not savvy with visa stuff.
@@Keithy_W thanks alot mate
Hi Keith, thanks for the info, would a business degree and experience with a top tech company be enough to qualify for an admin role? Cheers
G’day mate, I’m sure it will take you a long way to landing an admin role.
@@Keithy_W Cheers for the reply, are these roles mainly women or is there a mix of men and women working admin?
There is a good mix of men and women in admin roles in the mines. Skill plays more of a role than sex.
How do you deal with isolation, if your a bloke with no children or partner. I guess making friends over there and potential people to go into town with and have a drink on the off week(s). Met any blokes on your travels that started a new life over there? Cheers. Odd question I know.
G’day mate, good question. I’ll add my 0.02 but I’m sure there are plenty of lads and lasses who can add their opinions too.
Isolation and how it’s dealt with is different to everyone. I remember when I was a young lad and had no partner, I spent a lot of time on forums. I have always been interested in mechanics and cars, so I tinkered with my Torana and spent my time after work looking at forums when I was away from home.
I’ve made friends out at the mines who have become mates at home, likewise I’ve also made new mates from here too. It’s all what you make of it. I’m sure you’ll definitely make some great new mates when you get into the game.
How much earn à mobile crane operator ???
If you are licensed as a crane operator in Australia, the pay varies. I don’t have exact numbers. I’d imagine 80k +
Do you get free wifi on site?
Some sites do, others don’t. It depends on the site.
Could pay me to do that Job.
what can you do if you dont want to go home and want to keep working?
OHS will dictate what you end up doing. Safety-wise, there’s only so much work the human body can withstand before breaking down. If you were wanting to earn millions of dollars, you could get a job at your home base and work on your weeks off, but I definitely don’t recommend it.
@@Keithy_W thanks for clarifying, another question, are you allowed to stay in your room and have free meal on your weeks off?
No mate, that’s not something any of the mines will agree to. In an average mine camp it costs over $30,000 to house and feed each employee on an even-time roster for 12 months.
Any openings that side electrical engineering low and high voltage
None that I’m aware of right now, but you never know!
Hi mate, Do mining company's often sponsor foreign nationals say someone like myself here in fiji with a trade in heavy diesel repair/ maintenance looking to join the aussie mining industry? Thanks, cheers 🍻
G’day mate, the sponsorships are usually sorted by the companies, so I couldn’t say who to chat to, I’m sorry. You should have a good chance finding work in the mining industry with your experience that will help you quite a lot on your own merits. If you jump on the internet and see what you can find, I think you’ll be surprised what you can achieve.
16 years??? Surely looking at an early retirement bud
Haha I can only wish mate 🤘🏼
@@Keithy_W Didn't save your money?
Oh I’m very good with my money mate, but I’ve got a long time before I can afford to retire!
FIFO doesnt pay that well, espeacilly when job agencies are involved
which mine do you work at.
A very hidden one 😁
@@Keithy_W i understand what you mean.
Cheers mate
Do you think 50 is too old to work in the mines
Not at all mate. We have blokes right up to retirement age working in the mines
Cheers mate
@@robertpitt2212 plus your name ends in Pitt, so you’re a fucking shoe in!
Keith is it really worth it.
It depends on the person mate.
If you and the family don’t do well away from each other, it’s not worth it.
If you and the family are ok with time apart, it works well. You have long periods of time home rather than just weekends, so you can do more with family and any little projects you have going on at home.
Long rosters hurt relationships though. If you’re away for more than a week/two at a time it can be negative for wife/partner/children.
You’d have to weigh up the pro’s and con’s with your situation.
Do u get free accommodation if they hire u free bed set like
Yeah mate, they cover accomodation 👌
@@Keithy_W sound brother
Mate you need a fly net haha
😂😂
Hi mate. I’m an African in Africa looking to get a job in Australia and migrate there. I have a degree in Oil and Gas engineering. I also do research assisting. I do not have experience in mining. What would advise? I will add also that I have a wife, a nurse and no kids. Please advise
G’day mate, I’d say once you have moved here, you’ll fit right into the Auzzie Oil & Gas industry with your experience.
Thanks
Hi Mate..you probably need to get in touch with a migration agent in Australia. They will generally charge for an assessment of your situation but will give you an honest answer of your job and immigration possibilities. Do some research online and get in touch with one.
How to recruitment in mining industry from India or any other countries
G’day mate,
The first thing you’ll need to do is move to Australia.
From there you can search for a recruitment agency in the town you’re living in.
@@Keithy_W thank you for immediate response
I am looking forward to do masters in mining engineering in Australia
Can u plz share some best university in Australia.
I’d only be giving you a personal answer mate! You would be much better to speak with someone who has a lot more experience with the different universities.
@@Keithy_W
Thanks mate, for helping me🙂
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Looks like no one can get a mining job
What do you mean
Yeah it’s just one big party isn’t it ?
Not exactly. Some treat it like that, but don’t last long.
Can we plan a trip to south East Asian country like Bali or Thailand in week off roaster
A good question. That would be something to discuss with an employer in my opinion. If anything happened overseas and you couldn’t return to AU, there could be complicated issues. Great question, perhaps someone else has more info around this to add?
A lot of guys in my crew will casually fly to Bali or Thailand for their week off. Never heard of there being any issues with it
Think how Australia would be if all our workers flew overseas every week off…
There are laws preventing foreign workers from coming here to work each week and flying to a home overseas on the off week.
We’d be out of the job!
@@Keithy_W I think it’s pretty fair enough for foreigners, but when you’re based in Perth I really don’t think it’s a big deal to fly to Bali for a week a couple times a year
Of course not, it’s when flights get cancelled or a pandemic happens that it becomes an issue!
keith, its acceptable to urinate in donga bins if you get stitched up with a shutdown room with no toilets/showers, fact or fiction?
That’s a tough call Mr Inc… maybe someone else is suitably qualified to answer your question?
The camp admin doormat would be an acceptable spot in that circumstance.
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are you in Queensland? because alot of what you're saying is rubbish. WA fifo 18 years, 1 you can get mates jobs if you are a good worker and are on good terms with your suprentendant, 2 greenies absolutely do get jobs they just dont walk into shirts..if its one of the big 3 you come as a contractor and will get signed over if you are any good, 3 the only ppl not making 100k are the support workers...even admin will make 6 figures. 4, in 18 years ive never had to cook my own food...rooms are cleaned once a week and you do your own laundry unless your on a lead mine or other dangerous substance.....
G’day mate, good to hear from you!
I’m pretty sure I covered most of the things you’ve said in another video. I don’t doubt you, but if I go around in my videos telling people they’ll start on 100k, and they get in on 75k, I won’t have too many happy viewers. Not to mention that every mine and every mining company is different. Likewise for laundry and food facilities. Smaller mines and development camps are much less a hotel, and more of a bush camp. There are many scales to think about.
Like yourself, I’m at 20yrs in the game too, it’s good to hear you’ve put in the hard years too 👌🏼
I appreciate your comments mate 👍🏻
@Keithy_W ok I watched the rest of the video, I've worked for the big 3 and all of them paid a bonus ..in the early days you also got shares with fmg, bhp we were guaranteed the full bonus, rio only had the full bonus once...so I'm not sure what bonus you are talking about..and if you've been around you know how good the Roy Hill bonus's are. Even time rosters do exist and bhp are moving all their sites to 8/6 which is pretty close to even time and in my experience the best roster. Relationships are terrible on anything longer than 8/6 rosters...sorry but that's my experience. Anyone reading this whos not in fifo and is thinking of getting into it first make a plan and then stick to it HAVE A EXIT PLAN don't piss your money away
I reckon for some parts here we might be agree-to-disagree. I don’t recall specifically naming rosters as “this is what you’ll get”, but there’s a lot of crazy rosters out there - including 8/6 (let’s call it week-on week-off for old times sake).
Alas, I enjoyed reading your comment and your opinion about the whole thing, and I think it’s good to have that kind of chat on here.
Hey. I am 40 years old. Do you think I am young enough to start this? Or am I too old?
Yeah mate, you’re still young enough to get a job.