Garmin Speed Sensor 2 & Cadence Sensor 2 In-Depth Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Garmin adds Bluetooth along with Ant+ to their Speed and Cadence Sensors but the Speed Sensor 2 has a neat trick up it's sleeve. Get them here: geni.us/EjO6ue (Amazon)
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Just wanted to say thank you, this provides a clear explanation of how both work.
Glad it helped! Thanks!!
Thank you for the helpful description of the "automatic data record" function on the speed sensor. Most other reviews don't mention or explain this.
Glad to help 👍
Yeah! Tunnel crew checking in!
Yes!!
Sure would be nice if Garmin would let us match Speed Sensors to a particular bike in our "Gear" so we could automatically track miles/bike without having to manually select the bike each activity after the fact.
Thank you for this video. I'm retired and decide to become a cyclist. I have the Garmin 830 Edge bike computer. I'm hoping to connect the speed sensors 2 to my bike. Thank you
I really like that extra feature for the speed sensor 2 for commuting.
Ya it’s pretty neat, for sure.
Thank you Des for taking the time out to answer my question’s. I end up getting the Garmin Fenix 5X Plus with Sapphire Glass. Thanks my friend
Keep those great videos coming
No worries. Enjoy!
Informative and thorough review. Thanks for being honest about the recording issues, it helped me to make an informed purchasing decision.
Thanks for this review. I am getting these so I can have a go at Zwift and see if I enjoy the experience of riding indoors without breaking the budget.
Have fun!
For my indoor cycling do I need the cadence sensor or speed sensor? I'm more interested in health measurements than performance measurements.
The speed sensor holder is a bit large for smaller hubs used on an 80s vintage bike although it did not fall off on my half mile test run. I plan to use it mostly indoors so no big deal for me.
Commuter here, looking to use this as an odometer for my bike. My friends don't believe that I bike more than I drive... Not a fan of bike computers or recording commutes as workouts so hoping this solves my problem. Also hoping that the data has some sort of summary such as "total biked miles this month"
Thanks a million brother. Your videos are so helpful. 👏🏾
Glad they help! Thanks!
Thank you for another great video! Quick question, as I just picked up this bundle along with a Garmin Edge 830. Does it make sense to pair these sensors with my phone as well, even though I will always use my Garmin Edge 830 when I go for a ride (whether it be on my road or mountain bike)? My concern is ending up with redundant/duplicate data on Garmin Connect/Strava, or are these systems smart enough to recognize the same data and only upload the GPS based/Garmin 830 version? Please let me know your thoughts on this topic? Thanks in advance. Cheers! :-)
-Shane
Awesome detailed review, thanks!
Sure thing. Thanks!
Excellent review
Thanks!
It may be a silly question, but: can i use speed sensor without having a garmin watch? (So I can use it 100% with only garmin app on my phone?)
I want to give it as a present to my friend, and it would be a great start to introduce him into this world :))
Thanks for your answer in advance!
Yes, no problems.
Des, I rely on you so much when it comes to getting my new gear. I love Garmin and your reviews are so helpful every time. So, I've been doing indoor cycling on a spin bike, it looks like my best option is to forego speed measurements and just do the cadence sensor, right?
Yup, distance and speed measurements are generally off with spin bikes since there are no gears, only resistance, but cadence can still be beneficial. 👍
Does it undermeasure or overmeasure speed and by how much? I want to get those stupid distance challenges done even through the winter by using a spin bike. @@DesFit
The main concern for me is the stability of the signal. Can it compete with the smoothness of a good old fashioned magnet in the spoke wired to a simply unit such as the cateye velo? I find the GPS based speed sensor too erratic to be helpful during a momentary glance down to check on my speed. Will this provide a better solution when paired to my gaming GPS unit? Does anyone have an opinion on this?
Great video and thank you... an issue I have is that my Fenix 3HR is not finding my cadence sensor
great reviews!!! awesome job bro and def good ideas for garmi...!!!
Thanks!
How do you like these compared to the wahoo sensors? Can I use these Garmin sensors with just the iPhone + garmin connect (that is, without owning a physical garmin cycling computer or watch)?
Yes, no problems.
Want to use on a spin bike with Zwift, Waiting to buy, I was hoping this new version might wake up even with the sensor mounted the wrong way (i.e not round the hub). Also ref. the calibration/wheel size, I assume done via the Garmin App, does it remember this on the sensor itself? e.g. when using with paring with Zwift will it be close to the right speed to start, You have to put in a wheel size with Zwift also but wondered if more likely to be accurate. I read someone could not quite get enough adjustment.
Hi, I think the overshooting is because of the differences in corners. The path your front wheel travelles is always a but wider than then the centre of your steering because you lean into the corner. Additionally, the gps takes the shortest distance between te gps pulses so the gps corner exists of a lot of little straight pieces while the speed sensor on the wheel takes it as a curve, obviously a bit longer again. Therefore I think the speed sensor is not overshooting but the gps is actually undershooting.
Nice walk-thru - thanks. Biggest issue is how to change the battery correctly LOL!
You're welcome!
If the Speed 2 is paired with a Garmin head unit which is recording your ride, does this mean you end up with 2x activities in Garmin connect / strava etc for the same ride? ... ie one from the speed sensor and one from the head unit?? ... or does it "intelligently" know that your head unit is on the case? ... OR ... would I have to disable the connection between the Speed 2 and Garmin Connect to save myself bouncing around apps deleting duplicated information after each ride?
Thank you for the info!
Sure thing!
I'm a mountain biker. Is it okay to attach the speed and cadence sensors to my mountain bike? How durable are the sensors and are they water proof? Thanks.
I just received this item from Amazon today. Both devices show up in my phone's BT menu. Trying to access them with Garmin Connect app on my phone. Complex initiation process. Does not work without Internet access. Extremely uncommunicative about what it's actually doing. After estimating my wheel size (42×622) it feels the need to do a software update that will take "about 10 minutes".
The progress bar starts at zero, then it jumps halfway across, then it freezes. I've waited far longer than 10 minutes (more like 20). It doesn't say which of the two devices it is attempting to update. On about the fourth try, I got a Garmin status message on my phone telling me that if I'm having problems with the update, to power cycle my BT subsystem, or the entire phone. Yay! Nothing better to do today than babysit a fragile Garmin update that probably doesn't even add any functionality. What was so broken with the firmware out of the factory that I'm subject to this?
Well done, Garmin. My first impression is fragile POS. I don't have my Edge 130 Plus yet, but I'm already thinking about sending it back unopened, along with the Garmin heart band I have also ordered.
The sensor is a great addition to the bike
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Hi. Great review thanks. Can you use both sensors to give real time data on a pair iPhone through Garmin connect or Strava? Ie I can see my speed and cadence as I’m riding.
I am 100% jealous you got that speed sensor to work with the Connect app. I cannot get it to pair no way, no how. It WILL pair with my phone, but the app, no way. And Garmin has suffered some bad juju, so they are no help.
Great video! I just had one question, as you are riding on a wheel on trainer and when you change gears will your speed sensor pick up that and change your gears accordingly? Any responses are welcome thank you!
Nice informative video! How is the Fenix mounted on the handlebar? Can you please provide the link for the product? Thanks in advance!
Do you have a video of pairing these two to an iPhone without Garmin connect? I can’t get the cadence to pair with anything, including Garmin connect
I’m new to the whole indoor cycling thing, so sorry if I’m asking a silly question here:
I had a indoor trainer for my birthday this year - but one that doesn’t have Bluetooth or anything like that. Just fixed in and you pedal away.
What I want is to be able to track my speed/ distance/ max speed/ etc when I do an indoor bike ride. So I want to see the same results as what I see on my Garmin app, then ultimately Strava, once I’ve finished my workout.
Would I be right in thinking that I could get these speed and cadence sensors, attach to my bike on the indoor trainer, connect to my Garmin Venu, then complete an indoor cycling workout and then see all the results?
That’s my main priority really. Anything beyond that like using Zwift would be cool but I just want to see the results of the workout first as I do like to see those stats rather than just going by the amount of time I’m cycling indoors for.
Hope you can help to clarify this for me.
Thanks.
Yup! You got it. Attach the speed sensor to your bike and then pair it with your Venu under Sensors>Add Sensor. You may have to adjust the wheel size in the settings of the sensor.
@@DesFit thanks so much!
Sure thing!
Nice review! Quick question - when you have the speed sensor paired to either a watch or a cycling computer, are the speed and distance measurements overridden from GPS data?
Great question, that's something I've always wondered, but never got an answer to.
No, sensor data have priority over GPS. Garmin mentioned that in older documentation at least.
Awesome review!
Thanks!
Hi, by linking the sensors to Garmin connect, does it mean that whenever you do a ride and record it let's say with an edge or fenix device, you will end up having two uploads in garmin connect? one from the sensors and one from the edge or fenix?
Great video! Thank you
Glad it helped! Thanks!
Amazing review and explanation of the sensors. If I understand the speed sensor correctly, if I am using a Garmin GPS outside that never looses GPS, I really do not need the speed sensor, correct?
Yup, the speed sensor is primarily used for recording indoor cycling activities or if you wanted to use that offline caching feature where it just automatically records distance while not recording on a GPS device. Thanks!
I have a Bowlfex Max Trainer, would something like this work well with that? Or would there be something that's a better tracker for it?
Nice VID. Wonder how does this bundle compare to the Wahoo bundle? Will Wahoo bundle be sensitive to the brief stops as well?
Does it make sense to buy sensors for devices with GPS? How does it work together? Which data is prioritized? From a sensor or from GPS?
How do the Speed and Cadence Sensors 2 compare to the first versions?
Nice vid Des, any secrets for getting the wheel size right when fitting all this to a spin bike?
Foco Fondo!!
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Hi Des, This video was extremely helpful for me, thank you! It was no problem setting up the Speed Sensor as a new device in Garmin Connect but when I tried to synchronize the app would freeze and I had to cancel the operation (this was my second ride using the Speed Sensor). Now, this may have to do with the recent problems at Garmin but on the other hand the ride I had recorded with my new Garmin Venu a few hours later was synchronized without any problem. My question is: are there any options (other than Garmin Connect and Strava, which I do not use) to show the Speed Sensor recordings? As the Venu is picking up the Speed Sensor figures I was wondering whether there might be a (third party) app for the Venu allowing this? Or is that just a silly idea? Thanks a lot!
Hi.
I just got a garmin speed and cadence sensor 2 and hooked it on my bike, everything works except the 3s powermeter as I don't have a powermetre. Can you tell me how to work it by just using the cadence and speed sensors? Thanks
You'll need a power meter to collect power data, including the 3 second data field that you mentioned.
Thanks for the great review. Do you know how these work if you share a bike (turbo trainer) with your wife? Can we log individually to our our own phones?
Hi, if i pair the sensor with my fenix 5 do i still have the gps track? What about the distance and the speed on the gpx, is it from the gps or the speed sensor? What about the one showed on the watch during the ride?
Grat video. Thank you. I am a bit late to the game as I am just getting into cycling. I just added these sensors to my bike, and they were not very easy for me to add. My question is can I leave them on the bike or do I have to remove them after every ride? Thanks again.
You can definitely just leave them on
I see the speed sensor could complement outdoor riding but doesn’t seem necessary? Garmin sells as bundles and it’s a better deal to get both, then find a reason to use it.
Basically only needed if you want cadence for outdoor riding or both sensors for indoor riding.
DesFit . I bought the Edge 530 , looking forward to learning more about Garmin and using on my gravel and MTB rides. I’ll be getting the cadence sensor next. I’m still deciding on the watch model for my other sports.
cool video! whats the best budget Garmin IYO and do you recommend the CAAD13? thx
Nice video, why does the cadence sensor need to be fitted to the left crank arm? I have one of the original cadence sensors fitted to the right arm and it seems to work fine. Has something changed in the new sensor making it left arm specific?
No it’s just generally easier to install on the left without chainrings. Thanks!
Great video, thanks for this! Just did a long bikepacking race (around 32 hours) and ended up with one main file uploaded for the entire ride and also more than 15/20 short rides, I now know this is from the speed sensor. Any way to turn this uploading off so I don't end up with all the "shorter" rides/segments? Thanks again!
My cadence sensor basically breaks when I try to change the battery. I think the metal part that the battery sits on is bent. I'm trying to avoid buying a new one. Any suggestions???
How you can check the battery life for the cadence sensor? Because you can not see it on your Garmin ConnectIQ.
Hey thanks a lot for your video! Really nice detailed and high quality for sure. Just wonder what's the point of having the speed sensor when you have gps on your garmin edge...??
Progress Motion not much......just get the cadence sensor and save your money
Hi thanks for the video. I have a question: although the Speed Sensor 2 pairs with the phone app, the Cadence Sensor 2 doesn't pair with the phone app. Is this correct? Is there a way to connect the Cadence Sensor with the phone app (Garmin Connect)?
I'm having trouble here as well; The only way to use this is through the garmin connect app which doesn't seem to support the Cadence Sensor 2. This should work with Strava but they only work through Garmin Connect, which doesn't support the Cadence Sensor 2. Not sure where to go from here
Same issue here...
Any solutions found, cuz i got the same problem with it 😢
Hey. I have the cadence sensor version 2 and it wouldn’t connect to Zwift. It flashes green and battery is all good. I can find the sensor on Zwift, add it and start workout, but then I get “connection failure” after a second or two … What is wrong? The sensor is mounted correct.
Are you able to see in Connect App the charge level of the cadence battery?
I'm thinking of switching from the vivoactive 4 to an apple watch. Can i pair my speed sensor to the apple watch?
When will the 245 review be done??? Your reviews are to dang good to wait hahaha!
Trying to wrap up testing this week. As soon as I think I’m done I end up having a few more questions that I need answers to.
Can I add both speed and cadence to my spin bike using a garmin edge 1030 plus to pair them?
Yes.
nice..well presented
Thanks!
i just tried to add the speed sensor 2 in the same way as des did on his spinner bike and although the sensor is working and i got it connected to the app it just wont wake up on the spinner.Im presuming this is because it has mounted horizontally to the side of the wheel with velcro? it worked for des!
Does the speed sensor increase the update frequency on the display? Ie is the speed less "smoothed" or averaged out than the GPS on a typical Edge unit?
I ride mostly on road or smooth trail so not much accuracy to gain but curious if the speed becomes more responsive.
i was recently gifted a set of these sensors. i do mountain biking and dont own a garmin watch nor a garmin bike computer. I have iphone and apple watch. would i be able to see my results after my ride with iphone or apple watch? And which app is best to use for them to work?
Can I use only the speed sensor directly conected to my PC (to use on Zwift) without Garmin cycling computer or Watch? As a basic setup for Zwift.
hi Des thanks for this information, do you know if the speed sensor is physically smaller than the previous version?
Hi! Great Video!
Hey, I have a VivoActive 3 Music and I do lots of Indoor Cycling (Spinning). I'm wondering if this Speed Sensor & Cadence Sensor will work if I attach it somehow to my shoe? Have you tried it?
The cadence sensor may work but that won't work for speed.
Hi des, thanks. I wanted to ask, can you say what will happen in case that connecting the speed sensor to edge device, if the final distance result will be taken by the sensor or the gps?
I want to use it on my son's bike to monitor his speed as he is using electrical bike and I do not want him to exceed a certain speed. Do you know what is the width of the Speed sensor? my son's bike wheel width is 30-35 mm.
How does this work on Zwift if I'm using a Wahoo Kickr trainer? I have to remove the rear wheel to ride it. Any ideas? Thanks for the review btw... nice job.
Is there a way to turn off that auto record feature on the Speed sensor off? I actually would not want that because I would always be recording with my Garmin watch anyway, so I don't want multiple recordings of the same thing.
Just got Edge 530 and now speed and cadance. I installed today but not sure why cadence got paired with Edge via ANT+ and speed via BT. I try to removed and re associate the speed sensore but still use BT. Now on Edge I see a submenu for speed sensore with an option to check for firmware update but it doesn’t seem to do anything. Cadence sensore doesn’t have this option not sure why
I use a wearable to collect my data via gps while cycling and I just picked these up which will arrive in a couple days to use while mostly on an indoor trainer. If I have my phone currently with me while actively doing a session will these sensors work with the session or create a separate save file? I wanted to use them in conjunction with my wearable to get more accurate data.
How do they work though? Neither one have a reference or magnet to go off of?
This may b a dumb question but question but im new to cycling.
If my bike have a power meter do I need this ?
Does the cadence sensor 2 also connect via bluetooth?
Is it electromagnetic light speed precision like previous Cadence or how does it measure RPM? For example stages was a disaster as the angular system kept providing different rpm depending on the push pull ! whereas EM is light fast...
thanks 感谢分享!
You're welcome!
hi there, , i buy this one like your video, and i'm also using fenix 5x and those all cadence and speed sensor is running well
but i'm using indoor trainer : kinetic 3.0,
my questions is : how to show cadence on fenix 5,x, because i can only seeing speed sensor on my indoor trainer.
thanks
Can I add those sensors to a spin bike so I can track my distance in my Vivosmart 4? That would be nice. It's hard to buy a spin cycle with a computer.
can I connect my iPad and iPhone to the garmin speed and cadence sensor 2 at the same time?
Have they fixed the multiple cycling segments when stopping during a ride?
Do the new 530/830 head unit bundles come with the new sensors or the old ones?
They should be coming with the new versions. If you search on Garmin’s website for Speed Sensor you should see the Edge 830/530 bundle options and the new sensor is pictured (it’s slightly rounder than the old one).
Hi, thanks for the review! Question, does the sensors also track and provide the power you do in the indoor training with Zwift for example?
Nope, you’ll need a power meter to track power. I like these pedals quite a bit: ruclips.net/video/Vh5Zqu60WOs/видео.html
Will the speed sensor 2 work on a spin bike vertical like you did with the old one?
Hi, I just got an indoor trainer and I went with the Garmin speed 2 to be able to use with Zwift. I can get it to pair but then I lose it and can’t get Zwift to move. I was hoping that this would be an inexpensive way to just track some miles and have fun indoors. Do you have any suggestions on how to get it to work? Thanks
i want to install this in my Horizon Comfort R (Recumbent bike), there's no wheel hub, it has a hidden flywheel. Can I just install this garmin in the crank of pedal?
Please, will the speed sensor 2 work on a spin bike vertical like you did with the old one?
Hi if its used on a static bike will it still work out a distance I. E with the amount of revolutions of the pedal crank? Or is that only possible if actually taking the bike out using GPS? Cheers
Hi Des, did you have any issues with these sensors and Polar watch? I'm having dropouts.
I have a Forerunner 945 and would like to add the cadence sensor to my data. With the data automatically integrate with what my watch records?
Hello very good video, I wanted to ask if the CADENCE sensor can be connected directly to the garmin connect application without having to have a garmin device (clock, cycle computer ...). Cheers.
Yes but only version 2 which has Bluetooth
I use Garmin 935 and does not have a virtual run to use Zwift, if I buy speed and cadence sensor, can I use Zwift?
I have Bike Ahead 5 spoke carbon wheels, so dont have a traditional hub. Does mounting the speed sensor as close to the center of the wheel work, or will it not be accurate unless it is mounted on a standard hub?
Do you recommend the Garmin speed and cadence or the Wahoo sensors for doing a budget Zwift setup? I'm leaning towards Garmin because I also have their smartwatch, but see lots of positive feedback on Wahoo.
Realistically either one should work. Thanks!