Great build! My son and I just built an ATX gaming system with the 5700 X3D, 32gb ram and a RX 7700 XT in the NZXT H5 and he is very happy with it! I built a 13700, 32gb ram, and RTX 4070 in the same A3 case. The mATX form factor is so under appreciated. I moved the power supply to right side of the cases next to the motherboard for easier cable management. 😊👍
Really?!? After 30+ years of building I still love building them. I have numerous computers because I love building them more than gaming on them. I’m just not at home enough being a truck driver, I have the money now but not the time now. I always come home to a ton of parts that I bought while I was on the road.
Thanks for the mATX love! I think it provides the best combination of functionality, features and space efficiency. Most ITX builds aren't much smaller, once you factor in that you have to fit in a PSU and GPU. And you're generally more limited in expandability with the single PCIe slot and not much room for m.2. And cooling is a nightmare. I just wish MB makers wouldn't treat mATX like a red-headed step child. The release of X870/X870E chipset has zero mATX boards from the 4 major manufacturers. That's a shame. Just had to mention I wrote this comment before I watched the video...
mATX is the best size in my opinion, modern PCs don't really need much expansions anymore and this is much easier to move around and travel with on flights. 💅
The great thing about the higher end Asrock boards is they still have the m.2 slot for the wifi, so all you need is a wifi antenna kit if you do want wifi down the line but not have any PCIe slots available
My mATX build has the Fractal mini pop air case; only about $10 more when it was on sale, and comes with 4 RGB fans. It also has 2 "hidden" drive bays, so I could keep my DVD for ripping CDs. That might have been the only change I'd make
The B550M Steel Legend is such a good board for the money. I bought mine when it was fresh and the new hotness for like... $180, been an excellent part that I've been able to recommend over the years to several others. :>
I bought the B450 Steel Legend years ago and absolutely hated it, it wouldn't allow any type of overclock of my 3900x, so I ended up returning it. From what I've been hearing though Asrock has gotten alot better since the B450 days.
I quite like matx and itx builds. but with the size of gpu's and me personally want as much air to move in a case, then i end with a atx and large/mid tower case. But this build is fantastic and i love the lian li case, its really nice and i like that it has alot of perforation. Looking forward to the next video :D stay safe :D
I recently got my first mATX build not long ago. The rest of my machines are ATX or mITX. I started using smaller because I’m running of room for all computers. I’m actually planning another mATX build with the 7600X3D I recently bought. Awesome build and great video as always. I love my 5800X3D machine too.
Good thing the pcie lane on this mobo is on the upper most slot. Most manufacturers on matx boards tend to put it on the 2nd slot, which is not ideal for beefier cards on a matx case
My previous build (~2017) was a micro-ATX build using a Thermaltake Core V21. I thought it would be cool to save some space and have a compact PC. But the experience was less than pleasant because I'm a big guy with large hands. My latest build (April) was done in a Antec P20C mid-tower (EATX). There's so much more room for activities! 😂
Dude, perfect build. I would have spent 30 bucks more (EU prices here) to get the 5800x3D just for the feeling that I have maxed out the platform. Paying extra for the GRE would not have been worth it IMHO because you are too close to the 7900xt then. So congratulations for a reasonable build with endless gaming fun!
Case is really cool for me I think I'll go for all black out build. Is there a continuation of the zero DB PC build in the future and I hope Greg hits 1m subs already he continues to pump out so much great tech content for us.
I actually got a 7800xt on launch day, got the steel legend version to go with my white ITX build, the card is really fast and for 500 bucks was a pretty good deal. I personally think it's a great card
i just upgraded to AM5 a few weeks ago and i was considering getting that Lian Li case but I don't like how the PSU mounts and I didn't know if my Arctic LF III AIO would fit in the case. I ended up going with a Lian Li Lancool 206 and the AIO JUST fits top mounted. The only thing I don't like about the Lancool 206 is it's a pretty massive case compared to what i was using, a Lian Li 011 Air Mini. I wouldhave stayed with the Air Mini but my 280 AIO couldn't keep up with my R9 7900X and a 360 AIO doesn't fit in the Air Mini.
I reused an old Insignia D300 tower that was mATX specific. I cobbled together some spare PC parts and only had to buy a motherboard. I chose a B450 chipset MB due to cost and upgrade path or lack thereof. R5 3600 CPU and my overpriced RTX A2000 6GB for gfx. 600w EVGA 80+ Bronze. 32GB RAM at 3200 MT/s (mismatched. Half of it is Crucial Ballistix and the other half is Samsung OEM sticks). Silicon Power M.2 SSD 1TB and Thermalright Assassin X120 Refined SE. MX-4 Thermal Paste. Nice console-like performance. Eventually, when I find an acceptable replacement, the A2000 will get replaced. Maybe a 1660 TI, 3050 or 3060 will be decent enough to game on without being a bottleneck.
I just literally built in exactly this case for an entertainment room gaming rig I did go with the microcenter chip 7600X3D I already had 7800XT exactly the one you have in this video So I splurged a little on the PSU went with an SFX lian li 850 W 2TB nvme
overall nice build👌, one smal gripe i have is the top fans being intake fans and if there is a airfilter just get rid of it because of airflow restictions, so i myself would always make top fans exaust fans (because heat rises). but i guess its always preferance of each and everyone.
The title needs to be amended to reflect the budget. You do you, but there's a few components I won't cheap out on in a build such as a modular PSU and decent Ram. Don't expect the build to be cheaper just because it's smaller.
Just built in this case (black version). It's really nice but I ordered a tempered glass side panel to replace the mesh panel to hopefully muffle horrible coil whine from the GPU.
I didn't notice it mentioned, but did you connect the front panel usb-c to the motherboard? I'm pretty sure MSI is the only B550m boards that include front panel usb-c connection. Super annoying with b550m specifically if you have a modern case
Good call. And yes, we were unable to directly adapt the Type C cable to the board. Would need an adapter - and would likely be limited to USB 2 speeds.
Hahah I honestly didn't think of this. The top fan is only partially over the PSU, but it's definitely a reason to swap the unit fan-side inward. Not the end of the world, thankfully.
I'm planning an mATX build, a PC to place in my guest room, just in case whoever is staying there needs to get on line without being stuck on a phone-sized screen. I hate that. Nothing special, just an R7 1700 and a 5770 I have on hand. Gonna cheap out of the mobo and the PSU because this PC will rarely get used, but it will be a sort of built-up AM4 spare parts locker.
Do you think my rtx 3080 10gb vram will still be fine for 1440p gaming(new titles) for the next 2 years? I bought an asus rog strix model for 350 4 months ago and hoping it can hold out for me for a little while. Did have a 2070 so I'm loving the card right now.
Storage is the one thing i never understand with youtuber pc builds. I'm running out of space with the 10tb of storage i have now (8 in nvme 2 in sata) and i don't feel like a heavy user even. At least it's something easy to expand, but I'd still never start with less than 2tb as a boot drive
I found odd that the integrated IO shield had holes for the WIFI anthenas despite not coming with them, that is a one way for dust or anything to make it inside the chasis, not sure I like it that way.
It does look a bit weird, sure, but there are plenty of ways for dust to enter a case apart from two small ones at rear I/O. We ran a positive pressure setup anyway :-)
I'm usually not one to nitpick part selection, but after having 2 different systems fail due to EVGA power supplies they will never get another dollar from me.
Question what are the Temps on that graphics card because I have the gaming OC xtx model and the temperature deltas are 30C between edge and hotspot underload when every other review of Xtx cards have their deltas within 10C 15 at worst I asked gigabyte they said it was fine but when the hot spot is hitting 98-100C I call BS
i have the 5700x3d paired with a 7800xt gpu but i got the xfx magnetic air version its so cool and at 1440 theres zero bottleneck dont sleep on the 5700x3d
mATX is meh to me for the reasons you started with but the lack of expandability is on motherboard manufacturers not the form factor. Since crossfire and SLI is dead you don't need a ton of pcie slots so most of the expandibility is in storage and mATX has enough space to do 2 PCIe and as many nvme as full ATX.
Honestly i like more under stated builds like this. I dont need all the colorful color matched hardware with rgb bullshit. I dont even think ill do a see through side panel on my next build or water cooling. Just a well spec'd super boring looming rig that plays games. No need to over complicate things.
love your videos @GregSalazar M-ATX is still one of my favorite size of motherboards. Plus my first pc was a micro-atx inspired by the walter white you build in your early videos.
Shout-out to spare claps!
Nobody wants the clap.
mATX is underrated to be honest.
Looks like it's in LGR's wheelhouse with the woodgrain front!
Always loved mATX/MFF. It’s perfect for the people who don’t want a massive tower in their room but also do not want to pay the ITX tax 🎉
Great build! My son and I just built an ATX gaming system with the 5700 X3D, 32gb ram and a RX 7700 XT in the NZXT H5 and he is very happy with it! I built a 13700, 32gb ram, and RTX 4070 in the same A3 case. The mATX form factor is so under appreciated. I moved the power supply to right side of the cases next to the motherboard for easier cable management. 😊👍
I used to love building PC's but after 30 years, I have simply lost interest. However, I fully enjoy you doing so.
Really?!? After 30+ years of building I still love building them. I have numerous computers because I love building them more than gaming on them. I’m just not at home enough being a truck driver, I have the money now but not the time now. I always come home to a ton of parts that I bought while I was on the road.
I've been on the itx train for 3 years now. But I'm slowly purchasing matx parts to put a PC in my living room to game on the couch.
Just need to build an EATX next.
The cpu is actually over 200 usd as of today.
ZTT used the same power supply in his video from 4 hours ago, that's a coincidence.😂
mATX Gang! 💪
Thanks for the mATX love! I think it provides the best combination of functionality, features and space efficiency. Most ITX builds aren't much smaller, once you factor in that you have to fit in a PSU and GPU. And you're generally more limited in expandability with the single PCIe slot and not much room for m.2. And cooling is a nightmare. I just wish MB makers wouldn't treat mATX like a red-headed step child. The release of X870/X870E chipset has zero mATX boards from the 4 major manufacturers. That's a shame. Just had to mention I wrote this comment before I watched the video...
aye the toughair 110! Ive used that air cooler for many a mATX build, especially if it has a mesh panel as fresh air is aplenty!
Great looking case! Nice build
I appreciate it!
mATX is the best size in my opinion, modern PCs don't really need much expansions anymore and this is much easier to move around and travel with on flights. 💅
It’s been so long since I saw your videos on my feed even though I subscribed like 8 years ago
Crazy that you posted this. I'm looking at a similar build, different gpu, for my bedroom.
Very sweet man, nice.
i love this. pretty much my first build.
This is a great build. Was planning to do a $1000-$1200 build soon and will probably do this one. The case is just too perfect for me.
The great thing about the higher end Asrock boards is they still have the m.2 slot for the wifi, so all you need is a wifi antenna kit if you do want wifi down the line but not have any PCIe slots available
My mATX build has the Fractal mini pop air case; only about $10 more when it was on sale, and comes with 4 RGB fans. It also has 2 "hidden" drive bays, so I could keep my DVD for ripping CDs. That might have been the only change I'd make
i love matx
matx doesnt have enough motherboard choices, that is what is holding it back.
The B550M Steel Legend is such a good board for the money. I bought mine when it was fresh and the new hotness for like... $180, been an excellent part that I've been able to recommend over the years to several others. :>
I bought the B450 Steel Legend years ago and absolutely hated it, it wouldn't allow any type of overclock of my 3900x, so I ended up returning it. From what I've been hearing though Asrock has gotten alot better since the B450 days.
Awesome build! Building an EATX soon?
RIP Crucial Ballistix
5:46 bro forgot to peel the plastic on the m.2 heat sink
I had to go mATX when I was gifted the Tower 300 for my birthday.
I already have an AM4 build and didn't want to have a spare B550 board so I just got a full platform upgrade and went AM5.
Can’t wait until trad mATX size cases have mesh side panels instead of plexiglass/tempered glass.
I quite like matx and itx builds. but with the size of gpu's and me personally want as much air to move in a case, then i end with a atx and large/mid tower case.
But this build is fantastic and i love the lian li case, its really nice and i like that it has alot of perforation.
Looking forward to the next video :D stay safe :D
I recently got my first mATX build not long ago. The rest of my machines are ATX or mITX. I started using smaller because I’m running of room for all computers. I’m actually planning another mATX build with the 7600X3D I recently bought. Awesome build and great video as always. I love my 5800X3D machine too.
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
Loved the video Greg,
Have a very similar build, great setup. I would change the intake to be at the bottom instead of top mainly due to dust but beyond that nice build.
Good thing the pcie lane on this mobo is on the upper most slot. Most manufacturers on matx boards tend to put it on the 2nd slot, which is not ideal for beefier cards on a matx case
Earlier this year, I bought a MATX case that will be my next build, once I wear out my current system.
My previous build (~2017) was a micro-ATX build using a Thermaltake Core V21. I thought it would be cool to save some space and have a compact PC. But the experience was less than pleasant because I'm a big guy with large hands. My latest build (April) was done in a Antec P20C mid-tower (EATX). There's so much more room for activities! 😂
Dude, perfect build. I would have spent 30 bucks more (EU prices here) to get the 5800x3D just for the feeling that I have maxed out the platform. Paying extra for the GRE would not have been worth it IMHO because you are too close to the 7900xt then. So congratulations for a reasonable build with endless gaming fun!
Hello everyone keep up the good work Greg
Just my opinion of course, but I've always felt that mATX is just the right size. I really don't run enough hardware to need a full ATX case
Case is really cool for me I think I'll go for all black out build. Is there a continuation of the zero DB PC build in the future and I hope Greg hits 1m subs already he continues to pump out so much great tech content for us.
I'd like to have seen a report of temperatures while gaming hard.
The only difference with what I build is that I demand an optical drive. Lots of old movies to watch, don't you know.
I actually got a 7800xt on launch day, got the steel legend version to go with my white ITX build, the card is really fast and for 500 bucks was a pretty good deal. I personally think it's a great card
i just upgraded to AM5 a few weeks ago and i was considering getting that Lian Li case but I don't like how the PSU mounts and I didn't know if my Arctic LF III AIO would fit in the case. I ended up going with a Lian Li Lancool 206 and the AIO JUST fits top mounted. The only thing I don't like about the Lancool 206 is it's a pretty massive case compared to what i was using, a Lian Li 011 Air Mini. I wouldhave stayed with the Air Mini but my 280 AIO couldn't keep up with my R9 7900X and a 360 AIO doesn't fit in the Air Mini.
Lol..I just built an mATX build for my friend yesterday..using the same mobo and cpu
Pretty sweet!
Appreciate it, man!
I reused an old Insignia D300 tower that was mATX specific. I cobbled together some spare PC parts and only had to buy a motherboard. I chose a B450 chipset MB due to cost and upgrade path or lack thereof. R5 3600 CPU and my overpriced RTX A2000 6GB for gfx. 600w EVGA 80+ Bronze. 32GB RAM at 3200 MT/s (mismatched. Half of it is Crucial Ballistix and the other half is Samsung OEM sticks). Silicon Power M.2 SSD 1TB and Thermalright Assassin X120 Refined SE. MX-4 Thermal Paste. Nice console-like performance. Eventually, when I find an acceptable replacement, the A2000 will get replaced. Maybe a 1660 TI, 3050 or 3060 will be decent enough to game on without being a bottleneck.
I just literally built in exactly this case for an entertainment room gaming rig I did go with the microcenter chip 7600X3D I already had 7800XT exactly the one you have in this video So I splurged a little on the PSU went with an SFX lian li 850 W 2TB nvme
overall nice build👌, one smal gripe i have is the top fans being intake fans and if there is a airfilter just get rid of it because of airflow restictions, so i myself would always make top fans exaust fans (because heat rises). but i guess its always preferance of each and everyone.
The title needs to be amended to reflect the budget. You do you, but there's a few components I won't cheap out on in a build such as a modular PSU and decent Ram. Don't expect the build to be cheaper just because it's smaller.
Just built in this case (black version). It's really nice but I ordered a tempered glass side panel to replace the mesh panel to hopefully muffle horrible coil whine from the GPU.
You should point out that the A3 with the wood panel is $85 not $70.
Greg is a PC King i love matx builds in nr400 cooler master
Would have liked to see temps.
I cant find this case on sale anywhere in EU.
I didn't notice it mentioned, but did you connect the front panel usb-c to the motherboard? I'm pretty sure MSI is the only B550m boards that include front panel usb-c connection. Super annoying with b550m specifically if you have a modern case
Good call. And yes, we were unable to directly adapt the Type C cable to the board. Would need an adapter - and would likely be limited to USB 2 speeds.
Remember when ASUS made those nice GENE MAtx boards?
Love this case and all AMD build. But i have important question, you blow Hot air from PSU back to PSU by third fan on top??
Hahah I honestly didn't think of this. The top fan is only partially over the PSU, but it's definitely a reason to swap the unit fan-side inward. Not the end of the world, thankfully.
Matx is the best price to size ratio for portability. All my builds have been either matx or itx.
I'm planning an mATX build, a PC to place in my guest room, just in case whoever is staying there needs to get on line without being stuck on a phone-sized screen. I hate that. Nothing special, just an R7 1700 and a 5770 I have on hand. Gonna cheap out of the mobo and the PSU because this PC will rarely get used, but it will be a sort of built-up AM4 spare parts locker.
My personal build is an matx system!
I'm actually in the middle of considering the 5700X3D for an upgrade, it's between that and the 5900X.
As someone that is very into watch, would love to know what all is in your watch collection. Have seen a couple fun and interesting pieces.
i have this MOBO, you can actually buy an intel M.2-WIFI module for it!
Do you think my rtx 3080 10gb vram will still be fine for 1440p gaming(new titles) for the next 2 years? I bought an asus rog strix model for 350 4 months ago and hoping it can hold out for me for a little while. Did have a 2070 so I'm loving the card right now.
Storage is the one thing i never understand with youtuber pc builds. I'm running out of space with the 10tb of storage i have now (8 in nvme 2 in sata) and i don't feel like a heavy user even. At least it's something easy to expand, but I'd still never start with less than 2tb as a boot drive
I technically have an mATX build...with a Ryzen 9 7950X3D and an RTX 4090...
I found odd that the integrated IO shield had holes for the WIFI anthenas despite not coming with them, that is a one way for dust or anything to make it inside the chasis, not sure I like it that way.
It does look a bit weird, sure, but there are plenty of ways for dust to enter a case apart from two small ones at rear I/O. We ran a positive pressure setup anyway :-)
I'm usually not one to nitpick part selection, but after having 2 different systems fail due to EVGA power supplies they will never get another dollar from me.
I would put fans to blow out hot air
Question what are the Temps on that graphics card because I have the gaming OC xtx model and the temperature deltas are 30C between edge and hotspot underload when every other review of Xtx cards have their deltas within 10C 15 at worst I asked gigabyte they said it was fine but when the hot spot is hitting 98-100C I call BS
i have the 5700x3d paired with a 7800xt gpu but i got the xfx magnetic air version its so cool and at 1440 theres zero bottleneck dont sleep on the 5700x3d
how good will this be for 1440p gaming?
I like ASRock motherboards ..can't speak about warranty never had to use it!!!!
I just did a build in this case.
My rig:
5700x3d
MSI B550m Mortar
Corsair 2500x (white)
6700xt
32 GB 3600 ram
Just change the case to montech
4 views and 20 seconds, nice!
mATX is meh to me for the reasons you started with but the lack of expandability is on motherboard manufacturers not the form factor. Since crossfire and SLI is dead you don't need a ton of pcie slots so most of the expandibility is in storage and mATX has enough space to do 2 PCIe and as many nvme as full ATX.
mATX was always perfect for a home server with plenty of space.. unless you tried to run windows on it.
Honestly i like more under stated builds like this. I dont need all the colorful color matched hardware with rgb bullshit. I dont even think ill do a see through side panel on my next build or water cooling. Just a well spec'd super boring looming rig that plays games. No need to over complicate things.
bro do some benchmarks.
I'm a full tower PC builder 👍
Why not 32 gb of ram for a 1k build? thats a crime imo.
Werid question do anyone know any cases that can fit an MATX board, but still sub 20L, and doesnt need a riser cable
NCASE M2, a bit pricey but the quality is worth it.
@@XenonG thanks will check it out
@@darryljack6612 Sorry, made a typo, it's NCASE M2.
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The thumbnail transition to the video is Golden.
No one has watched this through by the time I commented
MATX is more prevalent in China than in North America because mATX is the cheapest size of all motherboards.
Besides，a not bad MicroATX Mid Tower case is around 50 dollars，so why not.
pin me daddy Greg
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@@GregSalazar aww :
love your videos @GregSalazar M-ATX is still one of my favorite size of motherboards. Plus my first pc was a micro-atx inspired by the walter white you build in your early videos.
bluhhh, don't like the new wooden front trend.
Good thing there are plenty of options, including exact matches to the A3, that don't have wood. It's not like every case is doing it.