Some Planes can POWERBACK on their own!! Here an MD80

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  • justplanes filming of an American Airlines Douglas MD80 pulling away from the gate on its own power! For more great aviation visit www.justplanes.com
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  • @jamespaul4351
    @jamespaul4351 6 лет назад +95

    As an older 737 captain I got to do this a time or two where the tug for whatever reason wasn’t available. When you want to stop the rearward motion you simply reduce power and never, I mean never touch the brakes to stop. The aircraft can quite easily fall on it’s tail. Great memories and very glad I got the chance to do it.

    • @Roboseal2
      @Roboseal2 8 месяцев назад +2

      Do a little wheelie, Especially in a 737-900

  • @Goncalvesnunoc
    @Goncalvesnunoc 4 года назад +1294

    Pilot: ground AA ready for pushback
    Grd: sorry there's a 20min delay on the tug.
    Pilot: ...not today! Hold my beer!

    • @sportsmansparadice42
      @sportsmansparadice42 4 года назад +4

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @SPANKA.
      @SPANKA. 4 года назад +3

      😅 wow

    • @basimpsn
      @basimpsn 4 года назад +15

      Two things wrong with that statement....him having a beer in the cockpit and using thrust reversers to back out lol

    • @FlyWithNizar
      @FlyWithNizar 4 года назад +12

      Pilots can’t have beer

    • @adrock_sokolov6570
      @adrock_sokolov6570 4 года назад +11

      @@basimpsn 1950's air travel.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 2 года назад +73

    Being a thrust reverser must be a very tough life

    • @boffisgd
      @boffisgd 9 месяцев назад +2

      Aaand I found you again...

    • @Skitsandroblox
      @Skitsandroblox 6 месяцев назад +1

      That plane is like I'm not gonna be late!

  • @umm_rm
    @umm_rm 6 лет назад +26

    The buckets coming out never fails to amaze me. MCD made some seriously cool aircraft.

    • @Edmonchuck
      @Edmonchuck Год назад +1

      It's actually the JT-8D that's the cool part. This was done on the 727 as well

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +2

      don't forget this was not just MD but Boeing 727 and 737, all had the clam shells :-)

  • @NuclearNinja1979
    @NuclearNinja1979 7 лет назад +2535

    "That's been out of protocol since the 1980s..."
    -Airforceproud95

    • @ellawhite5167
      @ellawhite5167 6 лет назад +167

      you can alt f4

    • @pancakeking78
      @pancakeking78 6 лет назад +19

      Blog ot

    • @ShrihanAtluri
      @ShrihanAtluri 6 лет назад +43

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @Vxllain
      @Vxllain 6 лет назад +4

      Yep!

    • @WASIURPA
      @WASIURPA 6 лет назад +15

      Ryan Booth BLOG IT SAUCE BOSS anyways is sauce boss with or without spacing i forgot for some reason

  • @spotterguide
    @spotterguide 11 лет назад +2748

    Good Old times when nobody has cared about the gas prices!

    • @warmfreeze
      @warmfreeze 6 лет назад +165

      apparently a plane sitting at the gate at idle for 10 minutes waiting for a tug is more fuel efficient? XD

    • @1guitarlover
      @1guitarlover 6 лет назад +30

      Great plane the MD-80 too...

    • @HondaJazz808
      @HondaJazz808 6 лет назад +6

      Gas is expensive now days

    • @Vladigraph
      @Vladigraph 6 лет назад +52

      Actually, they are more scared of the baggage on the ground being flung around by the jets.

    • @TijmensAviation
      @TijmensAviation 6 лет назад +6

      Wow 447 likes

  • @bryanwestphal8703
    @bryanwestphal8703 4 года назад +131

    787: I need a tractor to pushback.
    MD-80: iMmA jEs YeEt BaCkWaRdS

  • @LordMarinade
    @LordMarinade 3 года назад +83

    Imagine what huge amount of force and heat are those engine covers supposed to withstand

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +9

      THRUST ME :-) They are NOT putting full force on a Reverse. Ground Crews would be flown away, that was VERY MINIMAL. THRUST ME, LOL

    • @TheTravesty2012
      @TheTravesty2012 Год назад +1

      60-70% most likely, still considerable power. I haven't flown an MD80 but that was far above idle N1.

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +4

      @@TheTravesty2012 yes, the JT8D engine was in almost most aircraft from the 60's to 70's: 707, 727, 737, DC9, MD80 and the Navy they were called the J52 in the A4 and A6 aircraft. I was in AIMD Jet Shop on Carrier 64 Constellation and my first engine I worked was J52 :-) For those who do know what N1 is: N1 is the rotational speed of the low pressure (low speed) engine spool. Thank you @TheTravesty2012 for your post. Bobby

    • @thisismadness6772
      @thisismadness6772 Год назад +1

      They’re protecting the engine and the debris.

  • @pilotavery
    @pilotavery 4 года назад +46

    Hello, most airliners can technically push-back themselves like this, using the reverse thrusters. The problem is that at 100% throttle, you still only get 15% of the reverse force, and this makes it too easy for debris to get caught and sucked up in the engine, it's not good for overall engine life, safety, it's noisy, etc.
    these airplanes can push back themselves because they're engines are high off the ground.
    Reverse thrusters can get close to 100% thrust in reverse when moving at high speeds, and many modern airliners now have reverse thrusters that simply use boundary layer effects disruption by venting are outwards, which doesn't really provide reverse thrust itself but instead causes a lot of drag.

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +1

      I never thought of that, GREAT POINT

  • @supra19851
    @supra19851 8 лет назад +340

    My dad used to work for AA he's retired now, but its funny that you guys filmed that footage at that gate in DFW my dad used to work at that gate. Who knows that's probably him doing the powerback signal to the pilot. Great memories of DFW.

    • @MrWolfTickets
      @MrWolfTickets 7 лет назад +24

      that's awesome

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 4 года назад +2

      @white zebra
      Was it a girl plane or guy plane? 😆

    • @dominicjose3660
      @dominicjose3660 4 года назад +1

      @@rxonmymind8362 🚪👈there's the door, use it.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 4 года назад +1

      @@dominicjose3660
      It was a joke. Lighten up.

    • @dominicjose3660
      @dominicjose3660 4 года назад

      @@rxonmymind8362 🤭

  • @TheblueTraxxasRustler
    @TheblueTraxxasRustler 4 года назад +544

    When you wait for the tug but it never shows up: fine I’ll do it myself

    • @olenieuwenhuizen8356
      @olenieuwenhuizen8356 4 года назад +3

      Nate Lavoie and thats what she sad

    • @timxd86
      @timxd86 4 года назад

      187 Likes PogU

    • @styldsteel1
      @styldsteel1 4 года назад

      Yeah. Screw you dudes. I gots to go.ah can't wait no more

    • @vladpostolachi2221
      @vladpostolachi2221 4 года назад

      IGHT IMMA HEAD OUT

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад

      Just hold down left trigger. It's so easy.

  • @thatjokerperson7062
    @thatjokerperson7062 4 года назад +619

    "HEY GUYS THIS IS YOUR DAILEY DOSE OF INTERNET"
    "Did you know there are some planes that dont need a push"

    • @YS-eu4ne
      @YS-eu4ne 4 года назад +4

      thatjokerperson LMAO

    • @willies545
      @willies545 4 года назад +13

      Honestly I clicked this video because I thought it was daily dose.

    • @sherlyngavidia879
      @sherlyngavidia879 4 года назад

      @@willies545 tbh me too

    • @notoriousbills
      @notoriousbills 4 года назад +1

      *suspicious leakfy voice 👀

    • @willies545
      @willies545 4 года назад

      @@notoriousbills right?! been saying this to my friends for a long time, and non of them hear it.

  • @christophermckeithen614
    @christophermckeithen614 10 лет назад +791

    It is perfectly safe to powerback if you know the proper marshaling signals. It was stopped due to fuel costs.

    • @yolsclassics6347
      @yolsclassics6347 7 лет назад +84

      Christopher McKeithen also the crap all over the ground......

    • @kkfoto
      @kkfoto 6 лет назад +66

      It used to be done with planes with rear-mounted engines, which were common in the past. Now, it doesn't work with most airliners because they have wing-mounted engines.

    • @callanharvey2293
      @callanharvey2293 6 лет назад +23

      Typically if the flight is close to the gate and there are windows they wouldn't normally do it just because of flying debris like small rocks or gravel,

    • @rameez433
      @rameez433 6 лет назад

      Thank you for the info

    • @Alan_is_here
      @Alan_is_here 6 лет назад +1

      Yol especially the crap. Main reason.

  • @dansnyder2494
    @dansnyder2494 4 года назад +255

    It's like, "hey those flight attendants, how many times do i tell you to sit down when i m backing up, can't see thru the rear view".

    • @sbdr.1241
      @sbdr.1241 4 года назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂👍

    • @Plega
      @Plega 4 года назад

      Fahd Hassan 🤣

  • @h.m.s.belfast4047
    @h.m.s.belfast4047 4 года назад +231

    After 6 years YT suddenly wants to recommend this for everyone

  • @LaserTractor
    @LaserTractor 4 года назад +322

    Everybody gansta
    Until plane begins to land backwards

  • @dantramgb8953
    @dantramgb8953 4 года назад +156

    These puppies were over engineered, testament of an era when engineers used to have free reign in designing aircraft. Today, it's all about saving a buck here and there, the Max, 787, 777X is a good example of the later. Kudos to the MC Donnell engineers

    • @lukeurban9508
      @lukeurban9508 4 года назад +13

      Dantram GB except for the dc-10 door issue they said “oh we will fix it please don’t issue an AD” and never fixed it and killed people. Lol. Other than that the md-80 is the “iron workhorse” of the aircraft industry.

    • @Concodroid
      @Concodroid 3 года назад +16

      L-1011 was a perfect example. THAT was the definition of overengineering.

    • @JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor
      @JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor 3 года назад +4

      Well actually the MD80 had its design flaws too

    • @JoshuaSobel
      @JoshuaSobel 2 года назад +2

      @@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor elevator screw...

    • @JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor
      @JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor 2 года назад

      @@JoshuaSobel Alaska Airlines much?

  • @SaultySmash
    @SaultySmash 9 лет назад +26

    Love watching MD-80 land and take off too. So steep, so loud, so retrothrust.

    • @dphorgan
      @dphorgan 8 лет назад +7

      Yup. Clearwater Airport by where I live has MD-80s going in and out all day. Still enjoy them

    • @jdbreaux8080
      @jdbreaux8080 2 года назад

      The steep take-off is called a*Viking Departure. *

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +1

      don't forget this was not just MD but Boeing 727 and 737, all had the clam shells :-)

  • @creolekuda
    @creolekuda 4 года назад +445

    Anyone still getting recommendations in 2019

  • @emjeebutterz4405
    @emjeebutterz4405 5 лет назад +4

    I have once more found this video, just after the retirement of the MD-80 by American. It will always be an awesome piece of history.

  • @feliccieandorro408
    @feliccieandorro408 7 лет назад +80

    fuck the tractor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm leaving !!!

  • @matt8863
    @matt8863 7 лет назад +46

    I'm not sure all airlines authorized using reverse thrust for taxi back. Some of the problems are...Reverse thrust tends to throw a lot of debris (FOD) into the air because the exhaust is deflected to the sides, up and down. This debris can damage the engine itself, or other things on and around the aircraft or injure someone on the ramp. It is less of a problem for aircraft with tail-mounted engines, but that engine configuration is not used as much anymore in transport aircraft, as it is less aerodynamically efficient.
    The compressor might suck in its own hot exhaust gases. This might lead to temperature-induced damages in the last (high-pressure) stages of the compressor and health issues for passengers, since the air conditioning system works with bleed air from the compressor.
    Reverse thrust is rather inefficient on jet engines, so it uses a ton of fuel.
    The pilot also has to be careful using the brakes during power back...The main wheels are very close behind the center of gravity, so harder braking can lift the nose wheel, causing the pilot to lose control, and even causing damage to the tail if it hits the ground.

    • @devildart
      @devildart 6 лет назад

      matt8863 yes, exactly.

    • @EJofLA
      @EJofLA 5 лет назад

      Wow you know your stuff Matt cool!

    • @FryChicken
      @FryChicken 2 года назад

      Yeah but it works.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Год назад

      Wrng no degree like jet boats

    • @TheKaidynB
      @TheKaidynB Год назад

      This has been out of protocol since the 80’s

  • @johnbaptist1928
    @johnbaptist1928 4 года назад +226

    I’d like to see him do a “K” turn.

    • @zuestoots5176
      @zuestoots5176 4 года назад +2

      3 point or a J turn?

    • @Tensho_C
      @Tensho_C 4 года назад +1

      @@zuestoots5176 i think he meant 3 point

    • @MalawijaSMITH
      @MalawijaSMITH 4 года назад +5

      I think he was like "kurwa" turn 😜

    • @johnbaptist1928
      @johnbaptist1928 4 года назад +1

      Zues Toots - US slang for 3 pt.

    • @mtsilvagt
      @mtsilvagt 4 года назад

      @@MalawijaSMITH ahh you're a hoot, Psmith !

  • @Loganeffecto
    @Loganeffecto 4 года назад +273

    I was hoping the the pilot would continue down the runway and take off backwards :(

  • @vmlelectronics
    @vmlelectronics 8 лет назад +186

    Watch out, pilot, your reverse lights are gone! lol

  • @ThatTexanCollector
    @ThatTexanCollector 8 лет назад +485

    I've done this so many times in FSX. lmao

    • @henrychan1039
      @henrychan1039 8 лет назад +5

      Tried this with 777, 747, C-17, A320, Concorde, AN-225, but didn't work with the A380. ( no powerful enough cause only 2 of its engines have reverses ). Once brakes too hard on the C-17 and got a tailsrike lol.

    • @Mrpat1605
      @Mrpat1605 7 лет назад

      TheTexanFanMan haha me too

    • @jasonal344
      @jasonal344 7 лет назад

      TheTexanFanMan me too but i do it on DC-10

    • @jasonal344
      @jasonal344 7 лет назад +1

      TheTexanFanMan old russian way

    • @Arne1998
      @Arne1998 7 лет назад

      CTRL+P

  • @kennethreyes7859
    @kennethreyes7859 4 года назад +85

    Then the airline realised that “hey, we save fuel if we order a pushback” then they said “hey, we save fuel if we just retire the plane”

  • @gabesuper80
    @gabesuper80 5 лет назад +8

    Love it! This is why the Dc9 and MD-80 are unique. You'll never see this happen today. Too bad they don't do this anymore.

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +3

      don't forget this was not just MD but Boeing 727 and 737, all had the clam shells :-)

    • @MIchaelArlowe
      @MIchaelArlowe Год назад +1

      Well, you’ll never see it happen today because it’s out of protocol due to safety issues.

  • @ltr4300
    @ltr4300 7 лет назад +60

    Powerbacks are great to see! What's REALLY impressive is seeing a turboprop with fully reversible prop pitch doing it. I've seen the C-130 "Fat Albert" that accompanies the Blue Angels do a short field landing, coming to an incredibly fast stop, then leaving the engines running hard with the props in reverse, they back up in a tight semi-circle to face the aircraft directly at the crowd...when he brakes the nose gets light and it comes up a bit, then compresses the nose gear on the rebound...like it's taking a bow. Very cool!

    • @thejupitergod5687
      @thejupitergod5687 6 лет назад +2

      L TR Video link? That’s sounds epic

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 5 лет назад

      Yeah I wanna see that

    • @philmontejano5971
      @philmontejano5971 5 лет назад

      That is cool!

    • @woyharry
      @woyharry 5 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/Rd8M28g5_Z8/видео.html this is the link to the video in question.

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 Год назад +1

      excellent point, the turbo prop does the same thing by changing the pitch of the blades, SAME PRINCIPAL :-)

  • @marcusbjerknes8049
    @marcusbjerknes8049 4 года назад +151

    Does the pilot look in the rear view mirror or does he turn his head while reversing? 😁

    • @80smusic43
      @80smusic43 4 года назад +40

      Maybe he has a backup camera with parking sensors

    • @multidimensional_holographer
      @multidimensional_holographer 4 года назад +5

      Rear view cam

    • @boostjunkie2320
      @boostjunkie2320 4 года назад +45

      He does it with his sun glasses on. Smoking a joint while getting head from a flight attendant.

    • @hasanbassari7364
      @hasanbassari7364 4 года назад +8

      Yeah he even didn't turn his reverse signal

    • @rasdread0989
      @rasdread0989 4 года назад +1

      Definitely ground crews

  • @edisonliburd7817
    @edisonliburd7817 6 лет назад +5

    I really miss the MD 80, it was and still is my favorite airplane

  • @heathermetz6576
    @heathermetz6576 3 года назад +6

    Once you’ve experienced a power back on the ramp, you never forget it!!!! 😁✈️👍

    • @RetrocarStyle
      @RetrocarStyle 11 месяцев назад +1

      YES! VERY LOUD and everything on the tarmac is rumbling and vibrating!

  • @watchnasatvcom
    @watchnasatvcom 8 лет назад +81

    Experienced this first hand at DFW on a red eye. It was really cool, can't imagine what it sounded like in the terminal.

    • @jason618
      @jason618 6 лет назад +2

      Thor LP same here I was a fueler at DFW it was very cool

    • @kyoakland
      @kyoakland 6 лет назад +7

      When I was a kid I was on a plane that did that it was loud as hell inside the plane

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree 9 лет назад +127

    Just shift to R, and then to D again

    • @ncc74656m
      @ncc74656m 9 лет назад +1

      +38911bytefree +1 for the screenname. ;)

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree 9 лет назад +2

      katie_incredible Ahhhhh ....the old days ... you now .. Cheers.

  • @disday5527
    @disday5527 4 года назад +313

    When you have a long distance relationship, and she said that she is home alone...

    • @AlakayTheLionRoarz
      @AlakayTheLionRoarz 4 года назад +21

      Funny thing is I work for American airlines. Flew from Houston Texas to Kansas City MO to see my girlfriend when she is home alone. Now we are married for LIFE 😂
      Edit: happily married :3

    • @disday5527
      @disday5527 4 года назад +3

      Alejo and Yanni 😂nice

    • @bananakampreto3033
      @bananakampreto3033 4 года назад +1

      Light why I have to

    • @tctahsin4941
      @tctahsin4941 4 года назад

      fine ill do it myself

    • @singhamaninder5836
      @singhamaninder5836 4 года назад +2

      @@AlakayTheLionRoarz That's Irony Sir 😂😂 Stay Blessed and have a happy married life together!

  • @RJHolt
    @RJHolt 4 года назад +46

    Only thing missing is back up alarms.

  • @stoehrcov
    @stoehrcov 4 года назад +4

    MAD DOG!!
    I going to miss that plane.

  • @Advocatz
    @Advocatz 6 лет назад +11

    "That is out of protocol since the 1980's sir, you can alt+F4"
    AFP95

  • @LectronCircuits
    @LectronCircuits 4 года назад +1

    MD80 was absolutely awesome. We need more of them now. Cheers!

  • @rcl998
    @rcl998 4 года назад +3

    why we love the old planes...

  • @charlesray2351
    @charlesray2351 8 лет назад +219

    Beep Beep Beep!

  • @toddrone
    @toddrone 4 года назад +20

    Mad Dog, you will be missed.

  • @youdontknowme5969
    @youdontknowme5969 5 лет назад +1

    Another reason MD-80's are badass. I'm surely going to miss them.

  • @bestpilot98
    @bestpilot98 5 месяцев назад

    One of my favorite "Super 80" videos ever!!!!! RIP beautiful Silver Birds

  • @joesmith389
    @joesmith389 4 года назад +3

    I loved powerbacks when I was a kid. It signaled the start of my Disney vacations

  • @kissedbythesun1
    @kissedbythesun1 5 лет назад +9

    RIP to the AA MDs💔

  • @PS3DJ09
    @PS3DJ09 4 года назад +1

    Saw an AirTran pilot do this in MSY with a 717. Got his taxi clearance, backed out and even did a 90° turn like a sports car backing out of a driveway, then quickly forward taxied to the runway.

  • @stephenrowley4171
    @stephenrowley4171 4 года назад +2

    That has got to be the coolest reserve thrust design

  • @justplanes
    @justplanes  11 лет назад +14

    Absolutely... we can post a video of them flying backwards if you want...

  • @khalidhebshi5318
    @khalidhebshi5318 5 лет назад +24

    Sir why are you pushing back via Reverse Thrust that has been out of protocol since 1978 you can Alt+F4
    -AirForceProud95

  • @CapnCody1622
    @CapnCody1622 4 года назад +2

    That haunch turn was just as impressive.

  • @bankscoleman2473
    @bankscoleman2473 4 года назад +1

    I remember watching these powerbacks in Dallas as a child. Great plane! Will miss flying on them.

  • @juangallego7197
    @juangallego7197 4 года назад +4

    This plane was just amazing. There's only two things in life that I regret. One is not having gone to a Motorhead concert while Lemmy was alive and kicking, the other is not having flown or be inside a MD80

    • @TraceUK
      @TraceUK 4 года назад +1

      Juan Gallego There’s still some flying

    • @32snowbound60
      @32snowbound60 3 года назад +1

      Haha agree 100 💯 percent

  • @georgew.3520
    @georgew.3520 7 лет назад +15

    Hot Damn! the good ole days of aviation!

    • @vincentstruckstrainsplanes34
      @vincentstruckstrainsplanes34 6 лет назад

      yes i miss those days but hey at least we have better tech and newer aircraft now but i sort of miss the OLD days, i mean then we had the friken Boeing 727, L-1011 DC-10 DC-8 DC-9 and more! man i miss them! im only 12 but my dad was born in 1966 so he got to experience the good ole days! he even took control of a Boeing 747 Early varient dude! aawwww the Good Ole Days...

  • @travisdowns1686
    @travisdowns1686 2 месяца назад +1

    Holy crap. Very neat. 29 years on this planet and I didn’t think planes had reverse. But they do.. they just take all that enormous engine power and just make it do the opposite of ‘normal’ function lol.

  • @roshankathayat7005
    @roshankathayat7005 4 года назад +55

    Literally noone:
    Airforceproud95: welcome to FSX Steam Edition

  • @timwynn6079
    @timwynn6079 5 лет назад +11

    CAPT: " ground crew, we're ready for push-back"
    TOW DRIVER: " guys !! hold on a sec, I'm finishing my first cigarette of the day, ughh, I hate this job"
    CAPT TO FO " hold my beer..."
    CAPT engages thrust reversers..

  • @mikuhatsune623
    @mikuhatsune623 5 лет назад +5

    MD80 thrust reversers are way cooler than modern ones.

  • @whiskiikat
    @whiskiikat 7 месяцев назад

    The badasses way of getting out of gate. Respect 100

  • @patrickwatters7555
    @patrickwatters7555 4 года назад +58

    We had a jumbo jet do that at Heathrow when he missed his marks, he nearly blew the terminal away.

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 4 года назад +18

      I'm told the practice stopped as much due to fuel costs as for the potential for debris on the ground to damage to terminal. Technically all planes can reverse on their own, it was just only ever allowed for fuselage mounted engines. Under wing engines had far too much of a chance to blow debris forward and then ingest said debris.

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 4 года назад +10

      @Jake Hall Provided they're capable of reverse thrust yes. High bypass engines like on the 747 and any modern aircraft reverse the bypass air. On these engines the bypass thrust is far greater than the thrust from the engine core. That said it would be an even greater waste of fuel as not all thrust is reversed like with the buckets. Just because it's technically possible doesn't mean it's a good idea.

    • @beeline458
      @beeline458 4 года назад

      The only a/c ive seen at Heathrow to reverse off is a dash 7, they would never have allowed a 747 to do that, way too much ingestion.

    • @juangallego7197
      @juangallego7197 4 года назад +1

      @@jblyon2 There. You said it. "Just because it's technically possible doesn't mean it's a good idea". The biggest truth when it comes to engineering!

    • @thomasdahl3083
      @thomasdahl3083 4 года назад

      @Jake Hall Yes, all jet engines can reverse on their own. But it consumes way too much fuel to get it going backwards.

  • @vortexbf43
    @vortexbf43 10 лет назад +42

    OMG had no idea a plane could do that

    • @planeflight1202
      @planeflight1202 6 лет назад +10

      well md80 rear mounted engines like md80 or props can do it. the real reason they stopped it is fuel prices.....

    • @mcplutt
      @mcplutt 6 лет назад

      well, now you know

    • @johncholmes643
      @johncholmes643 5 лет назад +4

      If you don't know now you know nigga

    • @joesmith389
      @joesmith389 5 лет назад

      Strange. Youve never heard of thrust reversers? Ever heard that loud noise after landing that slows the plane down called the engine? What’d you think that was?

    • @tavnotavnoyan5718
      @tavnotavnoyan5718 5 лет назад

      @@planeflight1202 just a question: the fokker100 were able to do the same?

  • @justplanes
    @justplanes  11 лет назад +6

    Yes they are... Don't think the savings are that great as you need just about the same amount of guys during push back, perhaps minus the driver, and it takes just about the same amount of time give or take a minute... I guess you don't need a tractor...

  • @rftulie
    @rftulie 2 месяца назад +1

    I lived in Rochester, NY from 1991 thru 2000. AA MD80s always pushed back like this if they were departing from one of the last couple of gates in the terminal wing.

  • @jonathangoodwin457
    @jonathangoodwin457 4 года назад +3

    I remember those planes MD80 I was there when they made him I work for McDonnell Douglas aircraft company. My job I took care of the has its waste and Hall all that to the hazard waste yard . One of the engineers let me aboard and see it they are a great plane.

  • @FlyLeah
    @FlyLeah 4 года назад +9

    Newtons third law: *confused screaming*

    • @300fans
      @300fans 4 года назад +1

      Newton's third law would use this as proof. Nothing confusing about it.

  • @Noble6233
    @Noble6233 8 лет назад +12

    Perfect always wanted to see this in real life. great catch

  • @marcushall6821
    @marcushall6821 10 дней назад

    I got to fly in the super 80 many times as a kid in the late 80s early 90's and that was always pretty awesome to me. 💪💯

  • @descent815
    @descent815 4 года назад

    It’s a shame. We will miss you MD80-83. I actually got to fly on Delta MD83 in the past. GREAT airplane!

  • @nemo227
    @nemo227 4 года назад +4

    I once asked a DC-9 captain if they could back up with their thrust reverse. He was a little surprised by the question and said it was probably possible but that it wasn't a part of their approved procedures.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Год назад

      Chef black out Concorde girlfriend on board. Chief got tak code too nach 2.0 Italy France eaurpe

  • @MCHFacts
    @MCHFacts 8 лет назад +363

    Tried doing this in FSX. No chance of movement :/

    • @LeonelEBD
      @LeonelEBD 8 лет назад +27

      +MCHFacts you need the right add-on bro, the best MD80 for FSX by far its the leonardo SH MD80 "flythemaddog"

    • @timzerwick8932
      @timzerwick8932 8 лет назад +12

      Isn't this use of Reverse Thrusters frowned on? Thanks!

    • @NICOCRAFTAviation737
      @NICOCRAFTAviation737 6 лет назад +16

      MCHFacts make sure to turn off the parking brake

    • @officergregorystevens5765
      @officergregorystevens5765 6 лет назад +2

      Doesn't work in X-Plane either tbh...pretty sure I"m using the "Rotate" MD-80 too. Flight sims just don't do most things accurately. They're good for approximation of many aspects of flight though

    • @jimhedberg1495
      @jimhedberg1495 6 лет назад +2

      Tim - There was a time when AA was in labor cost cutting mode and fuel was cheaper. No tug crew, less labor.

  • @odieonekaraoke
    @odieonekaraoke Год назад

    Mad Dogs ----- Man, this is why I miss flying. I rode a bunch of MD-80's and DC-9's back in the day. Bad ass powerful machine!

  • @samarthvinod9511
    @samarthvinod9511 2 года назад +2

    Almost all modern aircraft can actually do this...its not used because of three main reasons
    1. It creates too much noise
    2. It consumes more fuel than usual
    3. and the most important point is that there is risk of small tiny objects and other things getting sucked into the engine and damage it directly
    Due to that reason power back procedures are rare but is still seen mainly in turboprop aircraft which have small engine inlets and also make lesser noise than the big birds and don't have so much risk of pulling small objects like (pebbles, rocks etc)

  • @EdWhisenantAviation
    @EdWhisenantAviation 8 лет назад +3

    That's very impressive to watch Thumbs Up & thanks for the great video, I enjoyed watching.

  • @danieleferuglio
    @danieleferuglio 4 года назад +5

    Ramp agent: Sorry Capitan, you have to wait 30 min for the pushback.
    Capitan: Not today, hold my tow bar.

  • @Delta_NWAB747fan
    @Delta_NWAB747fan 5 лет назад +2

    I can see why they started using tugs for these aircraft for 2 reasons:
    1. Very loud!
    2. It rolled forward a bit too much to time it right.
    With that said, I love this! Classic Aviation is just amazing. So many great aircraft that are mostly gone.

  • @EJofLA
    @EJofLA 5 лет назад +1

    That was freakin' awesome- thanks to whomever filmed that and to MD. Looked very "Thunderbirds".

  • @planesandeverything8149
    @planesandeverything8149 4 года назад +167

    “Russian Style”
    -Swiss001

  • @davegriffith32
    @davegriffith32 6 лет назад +19

    The engines are so loud I can't hear the beep beep beep beep.

  • @gunnermaison24
    @gunnermaison24 6 лет назад +1

    the MD80 is still one of my favorite planes of all time

  • @dwoolwichpoly9086
    @dwoolwichpoly9086 4 года назад

    The mechanism of that flap on the engine opening and shutting is extremely satisfying

  • @njsullyalex2744
    @njsullyalex2744 8 лет назад +87

    Huh, I thought this was just a way of reversing in FSX. Didn't know that real life jets could use reverse thrusters to go backwards! Cool!

    • @theflyinggasmask
      @theflyinggasmask 7 лет назад +3

      Shift P

    • @njsullyalex2744
      @njsullyalex2744 7 лет назад +3

      The Flying Gasmask
      Yes I know shift P. But I do powerbacks when I want to be able to steer in reverse.

    • @theflyinggasmask
      @theflyinggasmask 7 лет назад

      NJ Sullyalex ahh, i didn't think about it that way

    • @njsullyalex2744
      @njsullyalex2744 7 лет назад +1

      The Flying Gasmask It can be very useful. But a lot of planes in FSX don't have the power to do a pushback. The MD-80 (one of my favorites in FSX) and it's JT8D's are an exception.

    • @theflyinggasmask
      @theflyinggasmask 7 лет назад

      NJ Sullyalex i personally use GSX because i like to have time during the pushback to set the cockpit

  • @jimmayberry9103
    @jimmayberry9103 4 года назад +26

    There was a time when all the aircraft backed themselfs up with reverse thrusters

    • @troyellis4242
      @troyellis4242 4 года назад +3

      It's a safety Hazzard to back up a plane next to a terminal due to the amount of thrust going towards the building.

    • @ජයනියතයි
      @ජයනියතයි 4 года назад

      True!

    • @troyellis4242
      @troyellis4242 4 года назад

      You also risk tipping the plane onto the tail

    • @2-strokeracer531
      @2-strokeracer531 4 года назад

      @@troyellis4242 It's a risk worth taking... 😑

    • @jimmayberry9103
      @jimmayberry9103 4 года назад

      @Bilal Khalid Yes I haven't seen them do that sense mid 90"s

  • @emmettcunninghamjr.5207
    @emmettcunninghamjr.5207 5 лет назад

    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE SEEING THE POWER PUSHBACKS WITH THE GROUND MARSHAL AND CREW WORKING WITH COCKPIT CREW USUALLY ENDING IN A SALUTE TO CAPTAIN. PROFESSIONAL AND BEAUTIFUL SIGHT. THANKS! GREAT FOOTAGE.

  • @nicholasmarino1733
    @nicholasmarino1733 Год назад

    Hi, to add to Mr James Paul's comment below, the landing gear on ALL airliners is NOT stressed for backward stop breaking action. I learned this while in the Air Force as a flight engineer. We were very, very careful while using the engines to back up the bird.

  • @ZEDNANREHIGH
    @ZEDNANREHIGH 4 года назад +72

    This feature must cost extra at the dealership.

    • @anhduc0913
      @anhduc0913 4 года назад +15

      *slap roof of plane* This baby can turn on its own

    • @markmwikisachibala5538
      @markmwikisachibala5538 4 года назад

      It's used as added braking thrusting ln the opposite direction

    • @falconbjj
      @falconbjj 4 года назад +1

      CIA you must be fun at parties

    • @andrew3084
      @andrew3084 3 года назад +1

      @CIA SO KNOWLEDGEABLE

  • @fishodorvagina
    @fishodorvagina 9 лет назад +13

    Back in the early 80's, I've seen a TWA L-1011 powerback from the gate at FLL.

    • @timzerwick8932
      @timzerwick8932 8 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the reminder of TWA and the L-1011! I remember flying on those from St. Louis to LAX. A blast from the past!

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 5 лет назад

      Jesus that sounds magnificent

    • @philmontejano5971
      @philmontejano5971 5 лет назад

      That must have been AWESOME!

  • @dcplyr
    @dcplyr 4 года назад

    That MD 80 was indeed a beast

  • @DiscoR53
    @DiscoR53 4 года назад +2

    I used to see that all the time when I worked for McDonnel Douglas.

  • @smouseemice26
    @smouseemice26 8 лет назад +60

    Welcome to FSX.

  • @fucklapd5840
    @fucklapd5840 4 года назад +5

    Fucker didn't put his blinker on that 3 point turn..😎

  • @hannguyen2634
    @hannguyen2634 4 года назад

    The "Eighties" are awsome ! Very simple maintenance and it can take a lot of pounding, reliable work horse for AA long times! Im glad that had a chance to worked on the "Eighties"

  • @Ilovethe737
    @Ilovethe737 7 месяцев назад +1

    Imagine how loud this was for the passengers sitting in the terminal neat the classic Md80....

  • @SpiraSpiraSpira
    @SpiraSpiraSpira 4 года назад +102

    We get fired if we do that these days.

    • @mr.vegeta1212
      @mr.vegeta1212 4 года назад +7

      Why is it because it’s putting unnecessary stress on The Engines? Or because you can run someone over ?

    • @jimbot.4539
      @jimbot.4539 4 года назад +8

      MR. Vegeta it allows debris to be sucked into the engine intake.

    • @SpiraSpiraSpira
      @SpiraSpiraSpira 4 года назад +28

      MR. Vegeta ultimately because an Air Carrier has to have a particular paragraph in their Operations Specifications authorizing using powerplant reverse for rearward taxi and almost no airlines have put that in their ops specs anymore, so doing it is breaking FAA regs. The reason why airlines stopped putting that paragraph in is more complicated but there is a pretty large danger of ingesting FOD on wing mounted engines, and even with centerline thrust engines like the DC-9/MD-80 it is loud, uses a lot of fuel, and is hard on the people and equipment on the ramp.

    • @mr.vegeta1212
      @mr.vegeta1212 4 года назад +3

      Michael Munson basically risk/reward

    • @SpiraSpiraSpira
      @SpiraSpiraSpira 4 года назад +11

      MR. Vegeta yes. Also beyond the fuel reversing itself uses, which is a lot, almost every airline has gone to single engine taxi, especially at busier airports where you anticipate a delay waiting for take off - this is also for fuel savings. That’s to say you begin taxi with one engine running, and then a minute or two prior to takeoff you start the second one. You’d have to start both engines to power back so you couldn’t do single engine taxi anymore.

  • @dvamateur
    @dvamateur 7 лет назад +63

    McDonnell Douglas were really virtuosos in aircraft design. It's sad that third party door malfunction (same type of door used in most other aircraft) put negative light on DC-10 and McDonnell Douglass out of of business.

    • @claytongilmore4693
      @claytongilmore4693 6 лет назад +2

      Yes but the “gentleman’s agreement” to fix the doors between mcdonnel douglas and the FAA that was never honoured followed by an avoidable accident was the final nail in the coffin.

    • @bobsagget823
      @bobsagget823 6 лет назад

      wahh

    • @JIUNnF
      @JIUNnF 6 лет назад

      Tupolev.

    • @stansmith1268
      @stansmith1268 6 лет назад

      When I see an md-80, I see a space shuttle cousin! The forward fuselage and cockpit windshield really resemble the shuttle

    • @sanantonio855
      @sanantonio855 6 лет назад +2

      this piece of shit DC-10 killed the Concorde, never forget

  • @keiths4419
    @keiths4419 4 года назад

    Who ever is doing the CGI on these types of videos is really really good!! It’s nearly perfect... there’s a couple spots where the background doesn’t exactly line up where he removed the AirPort Tractor, but other then that it’s beautiful...

  • @daviedlopulalan9882
    @daviedlopulalan9882 4 года назад +29

    AliExpress: "We prowide a set of rear HD camelah and parking sensors for MD 80, only 100 bucks".

  • @robandrick-chudej-martin5084
    @robandrick-chudej-martin5084 9 лет назад +4

    My fav push back!! Felt weird too! LOL!!!!

  • @fra93ilgrande
    @fra93ilgrande Год назад

    When you’re a pilot and she says “I’m home alone” 😂 👌🏻 “waiting for pushback? anybody got time for that!”
    THRUST me, I’m an engineer 😂

  • @vincentstruckstrainsplanes34
    @vincentstruckstrainsplanes34 5 лет назад +1

    Rest In Piece AA MD-80s ;(

  • @exoressdelivers70
    @exoressdelivers70 7 лет назад +34

    I see many people say that the reason planes don't power back anymore is partially due to excessive fuel consumption. But does the cost of the extra fuel consumption outweigh the cost of hiring a tug driver and the salary, benefits, pension, etc., as well as the fuel for the tug that goes with it. Then there's the cost for maintenance of the tug and the mechanic crew to keep it running. I don't understand that logic.

    • @callanharvey2293
      @callanharvey2293 6 лет назад

      Exoress Delivers the dinosaurs that are used are usually included in renting out a slot for airlines to dock, they have to include it purely because having someone who can see behind the aircraft is much safer aswell

    • @Turbo999be
      @Turbo999be 6 лет назад +1

      This is nonsense, powerbacks are usually done à 70-75% N1... at that rate the consumption of fuel is at worse a few tens of kilograms per minute... it rarely last more than a minute, so even if we speak of 100Kg of fuel, it will cost less than 100$ of fuel. The reason it's not done it's because first it's too dangerous for busy airport and all the maintenance, catering and bagages vehicules running in all directions and also because only tail engines can be used without causing too much danger and there are almost no planes with tail engines anymore.

    • @davidtan8984
      @davidtan8984 6 лет назад

      Well they probably have to have a tug for other purposes, so that infrastructure already needs to be there. Might as well use it.

    • @davidhoffman1278
      @davidhoffman1278 6 лет назад

      Exoress Delivers ,
      The tugs are going to be in operation for all the other aircraft that cannot do this, so the incremental cost to do a push back is low. The other problem was jet blast kicking up stuff and hurling it towards the terminal.

    • @BH-os2xv
      @BH-os2xv 6 лет назад +2

      I bet the tug driver is a union job.