I'll agree with that. I once went into Bombardier at Burton Upon Trent to collect brake pads which had to be shipped to a Virgin Train down in Crawley. This Virgin Pedolino was parked up over the work pit and I got to walk along the complete length of it looking for someone to help me. Stood along side it, the train felt huge in relation to me as I was stood next to it. I'll never forget that night...
ok cheers mate for that bit of info on these fine machines.. i've not been near any of these 57's yet... I used to stand next to any class 47's at Manchester Piccadilly...Vulcan, Traction Magazine etc while waiting for the football special... I used to love the sound they made especially while idling... keep up the good work ;-)
Class 57's are former class 47's. The body shell is almost the same. They were converted at Brush Loughbourgh where 47's were originally made. The engine units are reconditioned GM engines from the US (Yank Tanks, Bodysnatchers, Ronnies) They are all nicknames for the 57's. Freightliner have some 57/0s and they look just like the 47's at the front with little or no modification.
Top vid, mate! Virgin should give some 37's dellner couplers. Just imagine - doubleheaded tractors thrashing up the 'coast with a pendo on the Holyhead!
Locomotives and DMU's/ EMU's only started to get headlights (dedicated) in the 80's, but they are still used for marker lights to help Signal man, Track workers, Station staff etc
The Reason for this on the Class 47's they never had Headlights from the Start the things in the Ex headcode box are Marker lights so they can be spotted, The reason why on Modern locomotives one light is brighter then the other is due too Night Time Running/ Day Light Running lights as to avoid blinding other drivers, and also Still for Identifcation uses. Hope that helped
Personally I don't know, but I think the main lights may be called a marker light? I think so long as there is one bright light for track workers to see the train coming with all these safety rules and stuff.
Virgin Pendolino's are electric trains that get their power from overhead power lines... When they need to go along line with no overhead powerlines they need a Diesel Locomotive like 57303 "Alan Tracy" in this clip to "tow" them.
Neither do I, would be a lot easier if it was the standard sort, but the 390 needs to get its power this was from the 57. Bring back the HST's and 47's.
fascinating video clip... I have a layman's interest in railway goings on... especially diesel locomotives... because my dad drove them mainly class 40's & 47's out of Newton Heath depot here in Manchester in British Rail days.... These "Thunderbird" class 57's are they modified 47's or are they a totally different locomotive... video47 /??/
When the train in the video first hooks up, does he try to pull away to check the connection same as trucks do after hitching a trailer up, or does the driver just know its all hooked up ok by viewing maybe red or green warning lights in the cab ???
Thanks, hard to beat the sound of Sulzer I know. I want to make more 47 videos on here from 2003, but they need converting first which will take a while. I love 47's hence the name of my site video47.
Cool, you don't appreciate how big they are from the platform, its hard to climb up on some engines from the ground. People are so messy, newspapers strewn around I bet, and a lot worse too, good with the tests, any jobs going there :-)?
I mean 57 sorry. It's a very easy mistake considering a 57 uses the exact same body shell with internal differences such as the engine. A 57 is pretty much a rebuilt 47.
so does the diesel loco pressurise the brake lines all throughout the pendo as well? presumably the pendo will be set in neutral throughout the un-electrified section of the track?
I have another question for you mate... why do trains run with one light brighter than the rest on the front... pendo's, voyagers etc have more headlights on one side than the other when they are running... 57303 has one headlight on in this clip... 47's have two lights in the headcode panel & a brighter light below...etc etc /??/
I'll agree with that. I once went into Bombardier at Burton Upon Trent to collect brake pads which had to be shipped to a Virgin Train down in Crawley. This Virgin Pedolino was parked up over the work pit and I got to walk along the complete length of it looking for someone to help me. Stood along side it, the train felt huge in relation to me as I was stood next to it. I'll never forget that night...
ok cheers mate for that bit of info on these fine machines.. i've not been near any of these 57's yet... I used to stand next to any class 47's at Manchester Piccadilly...Vulcan, Traction Magazine etc while waiting for the football special... I used to love the sound they made especially while idling... keep up the good work ;-)
I think I may have watched this video 10 or so years ago, very interesting for myself then and still is somewhat interesting today!
Class 57's are former class 47's. The body shell is almost the same. They were converted at Brush Loughbourgh where 47's were originally made. The engine units are reconditioned GM engines from the US (Yank Tanks, Bodysnatchers, Ronnies) They are all nicknames for the 57's. Freightliner have some 57/0s and they look just like the 47's at the front with little or no modification.
what a job these guys have got.
great vid
Top vid, mate! Virgin should give some 37's dellner couplers. Just imagine - doubleheaded tractors thrashing up the 'coast with a pendo on the Holyhead!
Locomotives and DMU's/ EMU's only started to get headlights (dedicated) in the 80's, but they are still used for marker lights to help Signal man, Track workers, Station staff etc
A good vid of how the 'Dellner' coupler works!
The Reason for this on the Class 47's they never had Headlights from the Start the things in the Ex headcode box are Marker lights so they can be spotted, The reason why on Modern locomotives one light is brighter then the other is due too Night Time Running/ Day Light Running lights as to avoid blinding other drivers, and also Still for Identifcation uses.
Hope that helped
Nice train coupling
Very cool :) It's interesting to see that they have to modify the 47 to be compatible with the Pendilo's coupling. Thank you for sharing :)
Personally I don't know, but I think the main lights may be called a marker light? I think so long as there is one bright light for track workers to see the train coming with all these safety rules and stuff.
Virgin Pendolino's are electric trains that get their power from overhead power lines... When they need to go along line with no overhead powerlines they need a Diesel Locomotive like 57303 "Alan Tracy" in this clip to "tow" them.
Good place to see them
What a shame we cant re-enact this with the new Hornby Pendolinos and Bachmann Thunderbirds. Oh well, Maybe in the future........
Top man! I would recommend you to run the franchise any day. I would love a 1st gen diesel doing these honours!
nice, didn't even realise that the more modern hst's could be coupled up to locos
Thanks
@mimzor78 The train goes on to North Wales where there is no electrification to power it, a Diesel is needed to pull it to Holyhead.
i went on a train like this yesterday from chester
@Hilux5972 technically u might be able to by customorizing it a bit (attach a Bachman Thunderbirds coupling to the front or rear of a virgin)
Neither do I, would be a lot easier if it was the standard sort, but the 390 needs to get its power this was from the 57. Bring back the HST's and 47's.
fascinating video clip... I have a layman's interest in railway goings on... especially diesel locomotives... because my dad drove them mainly class 40's & 47's out of Newton Heath depot here in Manchester in British Rail days.... These "Thunderbird" class 57's are they modified 47's or are they a totally different locomotive... video47 /??/
I wondered how trains bred lol the 57 made abit of a racket after he coupled up to her.
When the train in the video first hooks up, does he try to pull away to check the connection same as trucks do after hitching a trailer up, or does the driver just know its all hooked up ok by viewing maybe red or green warning lights in the cab ???
@Damocles178 Correct, 57's were created from old 47's!
Great Video!
Danny
just imagine the dude drivin the pendolino was told 2 move forwads wen the guy who was on the rails was well on the rails!!!
Thanks, hard to beat the sound of Sulzer I know. I want to make more 47 videos on here from 2003, but they need converting first which will take a while. I love 47's hence the name of my site video47.
Cool, you don't appreciate how big they are from the platform, its hard to climb up on some engines from the ground. People are so messy, newspapers strewn around I bet, and a lot worse too, good with the tests, any jobs going there :-)?
Good 💗
I mean 57 sorry. It's a very easy mistake considering a 57 uses the exact same body shell with internal differences such as the engine. A 57 is pretty much a rebuilt 47.
ok quite logical really... cheers cray ;-)
@billyballbuster coupling up steam locos if far more noisy and scary i do it regularly
so does the diesel loco pressurise the brake lines all throughout the pendo as well? presumably the pendo will be set in neutral throughout the un-electrified section of the track?
I have another question for you mate... why do trains run with one light brighter than the rest on the front... pendo's, voyagers etc have more headlights on one side than the other when they are running... 57303 has one headlight on in this clip... 47's have two lights in the headcode panel & a brighter light below...etc etc /??/
What time of night was this. And I know it was at crewe
I dont mean to sound stupid but what happens to the trains that go out of use when new ones come in?
what happened and did i toe it all the way to edinborough thats were they go int it
you can't get me between the two trains..
Wayne Rooney lol
because pendolinos are electric and that part of the track is not electric
haha fk that id never go on there id be scared shitless lol
How come this happened?
The Pendolino used to carry on to Holyhead where there were no electric wires so had to be dragged by a diesel.
scroll though the comments and I think you will find the answer you are looking for ;-D
I am not an expert on this sorry