Appreciate that. We got a lot more coming down the pipe line. It's a lot of fun for us too. Get to see and experience what works first hand and helps us develop better parts under our own brand as well.
👍👍Thank You! For the last 20, or so years that these aftermarket Air Filters will give you and extra 5 hp. Your Dyno Tests prove all I've heard to be correct + or - 1 hp. Thanx Again 🙏
Test seems to be very well done. In this particular case, the stock air box and filter seem to have been very well designed as the very small gains fall into the not very significant levels. Bigger gains really show up when forced induction is used. Often the small gains in airflow come at the expense of filtration as has been demonstrated multiple times before.
I think one thing to keep in mind is that an untuned car is designed to run without being restricted. It was engineered to run within limits of the current setup. The problem comes in when you start tuning and trying to pull more air through that same system. That's when you can start hitting bottlenecks. And it's not just the air filter, but also all the pipes that carry the air. On a tuned BMW X5 35ix that was pushing 400whp (stock is 308hp at the crank), they found that replacing the turbo inlet pipe with one that was slightly larger and had a more straight and smooth flow pattern, they were able to get a roughly 10% increase in horsepower and torque on the dyno. So you'd need a tuned car. And then you'd realize the gains. But even then, only if all the restrictions/bottlenecks are addressed. The air filter is one of the bottlenecks but may not be the only one.
Good fair dyno test guys. Have you ever made a pull with out any air cleaner? Open TB, no cover, trunk open, just to see how much loss is really taking place with the stock intake path? Keep up the good work!
Alex, good stuff buddy! I wish u would have tested the sound output as well… because I luv the note this Attack Blue is giving me. You can hear the differences on ur vid to 💪
We actually put a lav microphone into the intake ducts but the audio was not up to our standards 😫When we do other testing I'll try out different locations for the microphone. - Justin "Media Manager "
First, thank you for doing these tests. Really helps us new C8 owners. But can you clarify? The video shows the PRO DRY S making more power than the PRO 5R. This is contrary to the description on your store and AFE website. Did the Dry indeed make more during the test or something go wrong during editing?
12,000-15,000 mile service interval, the filter is not capped by mileage and based on service and maintenance in regards to determining the length of its lifetime.
@@ParagonPerformance good to know. But wat if your car is only putting on 2000 miles a year. Do you wait 6 to 8 years for the interval or do you clean it earlier before you reach the interval?
How about testing the effectiveness of the air filters? Are they filtering as good as stock? Or is more getting by and into the engine than the stock filter? Alot of oiled air filters are not good for MAF sensors so the AFE dry is looking good so far.
The results show all are essentially the same, considering they are running at slightly different conditions; slightly different RPMs, and engine and oil temperatures.
I don't have one yet, but I heard a couple of times, that it's not really the HP increase but rather the throttle response that is enhanced. Any idea if this is true?
Nano vs K&N the only one missing from ALL of the interwebs. On a true cold air intake, like in the front of a C5 the gain is worth it, like +15whp. 2. Will the Nano last as long as a K&N , as mine in my old C5Z is still cleanable and intact
Great job guys...thank you! So, any possibility of PP having some Black Friday deals? I am in the market for several items and would love to save a few $$$...hint hint!!!
Longer than most people own their cars. Personally I'd replace it every 10 washes or 100K miles just for peace of mind but technically that's not needed.
Any update on how the full intake testing is coming along? I currently have the AttackBlue filter but sure am getting tempted by those AFE intakes to go along with my headers! Whichever intake wins, I plan to pair that with your sport cats.
@@ParagonPerformance great idea! Sounds like they just started shipping go customers last week. I'm torn between AFE vs. Halltech at this point... Or maybe just keeping my Attack Blue!
@@jwherron k&n wasn’t out at the time of filming and our cars are far past stock to test now. If we get a stock car in the future that wants an air filter we’ll document our findings.
The only problem I see is you guys are doing pulls in 4th gear when it should be 5th 5th is your closest 1:1 ratio I already have an Attack Blue for at least 9 months I can't complain
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Great to see an unbiased comparison. Now I'm more sure than before to get the Attack Blue filter. Thanks!
This is the kind of content that makes sure I'll order from ya'll when I need stuff. Awesome work!!!
Appreciate that. We got a lot more coming down the pipe line. It's a lot of fun for us too. Get to see and experience what works first hand and helps us develop better parts under our own brand as well.
Agreed! I've already ordered from Paragon once because of the video and plan to again soon.
I like my attack blue. Sounds great
Thank you for doing this comparison.
Glad it was helpful!
👍👍Thank You! For the last 20, or so years that these aftermarket Air Filters will give you and extra 5 hp. Your Dyno Tests prove all I've heard to be correct + or - 1 hp. Thanx Again 🙏
Test seems to be very well done. In this particular case, the stock air box and filter seem to have been very well designed as the very small gains fall into the not very significant levels. Bigger gains really show up when forced induction is used. Often the small gains in airflow come at the expense of filtration as has been demonstrated multiple times before.
Your video made me Glad I went with the Attack Blue Air filter for my used 2022 Corvette Stingray !!! Thanks ;)
Really appreciate your comprehensive unbiased testing. Thank you
I think one thing to keep in mind is that an untuned car is designed to run without being restricted. It was engineered to run within limits of the current setup. The problem comes in when you start tuning and trying to pull more air through that same system. That's when you can start hitting bottlenecks. And it's not just the air filter, but also all the pipes that carry the air. On a tuned BMW X5 35ix that was pushing 400whp (stock is 308hp at the crank), they found that replacing the turbo inlet pipe with one that was slightly larger and had a more straight and smooth flow pattern, they were able to get a roughly 10% increase in horsepower and torque on the dyno.
So you'd need a tuned car. And then you'd realize the gains. But even then, only if all the restrictions/bottlenecks are addressed. The air filter is one of the bottlenecks but may not be the only one.
Good fair dyno test guys. Have you ever made a pull with out any air cleaner? Open TB, no cover, trunk open, just to see how much loss is really taking place with the stock intake path? Keep up the good work!
Thanks guys, really insignificant, not enough to go crazy about, not a must have. I think your fuel company blend is probably more or as important.
Thanks guys! will keep this in mind when replacement time comes!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the HONEST test. Some of the claims out there about certain products and the HP gains were laughable!
Excellent video guys! Thanks again for putting these together
Alex, good stuff buddy! I wish u would have tested the sound output as well… because I luv the note this Attack Blue is giving me. You can hear the differences on ur vid to 💪
We actually put a lav microphone into the intake ducts but the audio was not up to our standards 😫When we do other testing I'll try out different locations for the microphone.
- Justin "Media Manager "
Would be cool to see testing with Corsa Headers, Corsa Cats, and a catback exhaust to compare to stock.
I'd love to see the same tests with exhausts! And then the BEST exhaust ALSO with an air filter!
Thanks guys!
First test like this I have seen. 5hp for a filter is good. Thanks
Theres more to come!
Awesome video and content! I would love to see a Headers comparison, AFE, American Racing, Kooks, Etc.
Headers are going to be very hard to do due to the costs associated unless we get some MFG's to donate us sets for testing.
You sell a lot of different kinds perhaps when you install you could do a before and after test?
Great video! You should test some aftermarket intake manifolds too.
Next please: grill guard air flow comparison. Such a controversial subject.
Air filter, modified exhaust next please. The air filter alone wont do anything unless you can get more combustion gases out through the exhaust.
Noted! Thanks for the reccomendation 😁
5-6 hp seems like a solid gain for just swapping out the filter.
Easy mod for easy HP
First, thank you for doing these tests. Really helps us new C8 owners. But can you clarify? The video shows the PRO DRY S making more power than the PRO 5R. This is contrary to the description on your store and AFE website. Did the Dry indeed make more during the test or something go wrong during editing?
The description on the website is the manufacturer claims. The video is our independent testing
@@ParagonPerformanceThank you for answering! Keep up the good work!
power versus filtration, which one provides power with effective filtration. i suspect the stock filter filters the best
The attack blue nano technology is superior.
I purchase the attack blue. How often or at what mileage interval do I need to clean the filter? And is it a 50,000 mile filter?
12,000-15,000 mile service interval, the filter is not capped by mileage and based on service and maintenance in regards to determining the length of its lifetime.
@@ParagonPerformance good to know. But wat if your car is only putting on 2000 miles a year. Do you wait 6 to 8 years for the interval or do you clean it earlier before you reach the interval?
When is the intake system comparison for K&N Vs AFE coming out? Debating just a filter versus full intake
It's in progress. Going to be several weeks before we have that done.
I’m wondering if you guys can do some dyno test to show it the throttle body spaces really do anything..
thanks
How about testing the effectiveness of the air filters? Are they filtering as good as stock? Or is more getting by and into the engine than the stock filter? Alot of oiled air filters are not good for MAF sensors so the AFE dry is looking good so far.
The results show all are essentially the same, considering they are running at slightly different conditions; slightly different RPMs, and engine and oil temperatures.
I don't have one yet, but I heard a couple of times, that it's not really the HP increase but rather the throttle response that is enhanced. Any idea if this is true?
Nice to see small gain in power. However, how do the filters perform keeping out dust and particulates relative to each other?
What’s the estimated life length of the oiled afe filter? How often should an oiled filter be replaced?
Testing complete CAI systems next?
We are! Our blog post on the air filter testing mentions CAI systems next 😉
That is going to be a great comparison, please wait and include the Halltech system in your comparison. Hopefully they will be shipping in December 👍
@@jtheadturner Halltech Hornet just arrived today!
Nano vs K&N the only one missing from ALL of the interwebs.
On a true cold air intake, like in the front of a C5 the gain is worth it, like +15whp.
2. Will the Nano last as long as a K&N , as mine in my old C5Z is still cleanable and intact
The K&N Air filter wasn't available at the time we filmed this video. Yes the Attack Blue Nano will last a long time.
Nicely done !!
Thanks!
when should i change the filter im at 33k and stock filter
Just follow GM's recommendation! Inspect every 12,000 miles and change it as needed.
2021+ got an air filter life monitor just in case you were unaware. Unfortunately, the 2020s didn't get one.
A comparison including no filter would be interesting (not that I am recommending or even suggesting that anyone should run without a filter!)
We actually did try no air filter, It caused a drop in power!
@@ParagonPerformance Interesting.
Great job guys...thank you! So, any possibility of PP having some Black Friday deals? I am in the market for several items and would love to save a few $$$...hint hint!!!
It's coming...
Great video 👌
Thanks 👍
Corsa or afe intake
Air Intake Shootout coming soon :)
Afe dry vs Afe oiled. Which has the best filtration?
oiled is going to catch more, however unless you are driving down gravel roads all the time, dry is plenty for the concrete jungle.
@@ParagonPerformance going with the dry filter. Thanks for the quick response
For the afe dry filter. What is the estimated filter life length w/ how many washes?
Longer than most people own their cars. Personally I'd replace it every 10 washes or 100K miles just for peace of mind but technically that's not needed.
Any update on how the full intake testing is coming along? I currently have the AttackBlue filter but sure am getting tempted by those AFE intakes to go along with my headers! Whichever intake wins, I plan to pair that with your sport cats.
We are waiting for Halltech to release their airbox as we had a lot of request to include it.
@@ParagonPerformance great idea! Sounds like they just started shipping go customers last week. I'm torn between AFE vs. Halltech at this point... Or maybe just keeping my Attack Blue!
@@Kracka21C8 Our Halltech Hornet just arrived!!!
@@ParagonPerformance Heck yeah, that is exciting! I called the other day asking about intakes & sport cats so I'm pretty pumped!
No K&N?
@@jwherron k&n wasn’t out at the time of filming and our cars are far past stock to test now. If we get a stock car in the future that wants an air filter we’ll document our findings.
5 hp for attack blue for 139 or 10hp for afe dry CAI for 700 is the extra 5hp work 100/hp prob not
What about K&N and other MFG???
K&N does not offer a drop in filter currently.
@@ParagonPerformance appears they've now finally released it and their full intake system.
Why no K&N air filter?
K&N does not offer a drop in style filter at this time.
K&N finally released their filter and intake for the C8.
I guess the K&N Filters was. let out
THE K&N Filter was not available at the time of filming.
The only problem I see is you guys are doing pulls in 4th gear when it should be 5th
5th is your closest 1:1 ratio
I already have an Attack Blue for at least 9 months
I can't complain
3rd ratio = 1.22
4th ratio = 0.88
5th ratio = 0.65
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The aFe oiled will throw an engine light. Stay Away from it!