Jesus Christ - Dumbest story ever told

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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

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  • @YeshuaisnotJesus
    @YeshuaisnotJesus Год назад +13

    The Bible was written as mythology/fiction.

  • @classybree2241
    @classybree2241 Год назад +10

    Ones u see the false in the Bible story u can never unsee it and everything false apart

    • @Lighthouse6104
      @Lighthouse6104 8 месяцев назад

      Haha I see what you did there 😂

  • @larzhillbot1443
    @larzhillbot1443 2 года назад +28

    The Christian Story falls apart so easily just common sense is all thats necessary , i do believe in a intelligence to the Universe but Not a Christian God , At least Eastern religions are based more in philosophy that i can relate to

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +9

      Yes, Eastern religions don't have the Western concept of god and tend to be more philosophical and tolerant in their doctrine.

    • @DarrylErickson
      @DarrylErickson 2 года назад +1

      So do you treat this “intelligence” like a religion? Or does it follow science more, which I prefer- to share my opinion. If I believed in a universal intelligence, I would believe it to be sort of not alive, kind of like the force from Star Wars tbh.

  • @JohnTezlaNFS
    @JohnTezlaNFS Год назад +7

    A long time ago, some people at different places wanted to make a good story, but they ended up with people thinking the stories are real.
    (And if some people want to replay with "so was the world made from nothing" and my answer, highy YES it was, who would have thunk it)

  • @Panzerdeath
    @Panzerdeath 2 года назад +12

    Trust me, there's a lot of ridiculous stories in the bible.

    • @reg8297
      @reg8297 2 года назад

      But funnily enough its all true how earth was formed at start how ww are all mere human beings dying in our filthy sins and that is true we are born we sin and we die and i don't think popye made the earth ive never seen aa much evil in all of ny life been committed there has to be a maker we will all face after we die and it says that in the bible once to die and then the judgment

    • @Panzerdeath
      @Panzerdeath 2 года назад +3

      Its even funny a man was made to die for the sins of others.

    • @ducati3241
      @ducati3241 2 года назад

      We all know that long enuf..😂

    • @cthulhu4411
      @cthulhu4411 8 месяцев назад +2

      The whole thing is ridiculous

    • @DJ-73
      @DJ-73 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@reg8297 not true.

  • @ulongo123
    @ulongo123 3 года назад +22

    As a christian it will remain a mystery to me that the people in different eras different cultures intepret the bible differently. But they all claim to hear from God.
    We have so many denominations and all claim to say that God is telling them......
    What intepretation is the truth I dont know.
    If people pray and diasagree on intepretation I dont know whether my intepretation can be reliable.

    • @ilumaa4595
      @ilumaa4595 3 года назад +2

      Bats r birds

    • @lancy9110
      @lancy9110 2 года назад

      Maybe people who claim to hear from god are desperate for back up for their BS claims because they know it's BS! so they lie about something that can not be proven.. worse than baby brains these people have

    • @cliftongaither6642
      @cliftongaither6642 Год назад +2

      considering no one can agree on what the bible says, doesn't that tell you something?

    • @ulongo123
      @ulongo123 Год назад +2

      @@cliftongaither6642 yeah it does tell me that it doesnt make any sense lol.

    • @cliftongaither6642
      @cliftongaither6642 Год назад

      @@ulongo123 an honest question. if it doesn't make sense to you , then why do you believe?

  • @zachio69
    @zachio69 3 месяца назад +2

    Amen Brother Jim. It absolutely is the dumbest story ever told.

  • @vardets1032
    @vardets1032 3 года назад +21

    people made religions thousands of years ago when people were naive and dumb. ofc its gonna be all wrong

    • @feedback791
      @feedback791 3 года назад +3

      exactly bro

    • @rudolfkiss8351
      @rudolfkiss8351 2 года назад

      So they can rule the world? Doesn't makes sense cause most of them died for their beliefs. I mean the ones who said that Jesus rised from the death

    • @zanetomas
      @zanetomas Год назад

      @@rudolfkiss8351 world power is generational so yes it makes sense even if they died lmao

  • @incognito5109
    @incognito5109 3 года назад +9

    Personally I thing Jesus has died for no reason at all .Also did it make sense to kill his prized possession to show the rest of the scum that they are loved,where In the freaking Bible does it show that the scum learned their lesson?? Also what sin did he take away? people are worse off than before .Instead of killing a begotten son he couldn't use 3 simple words? I. Forgive. You? (not that we care)🤣🤌

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor 2 года назад

      Look at real life, buddy. If you hit someone's car, they can surely forgive you, but someone's still gotta pay the bill, right? And just because I forgave you that doesn't mean the bill will disappear, even if God forgave us, our sin would still be in debt to be paid, sinful creatures can't live with a Holy God, it's simple, so we needed a way to clean ourselves, with a sacrifice that would meet up the bill...

    • @ducati3241
      @ducati3241 2 года назад +1

      Exactly right spot on!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
      The fact that ppl stated jesus is God and so god ‘sacrificed’ himself to be tortured and died on the cross??
      Like hello? Krik krik??
      Why the need for jesus to die on the cross for human sins which doesnt make any sense!😂😂😂
      I simply CAN’T BRAIN THAT!
      😂😂😂

    • @incognito5109
      @incognito5109 Год назад

      @@nori_tutor Yeah, we came up with insurance to take care of that. If someone doesn't have insurance the victim can either take the offender to court or deal with it. Over time the victim will have to forgive and get a new car and forget it happened because how else can he get his vehicle fixed if the offender didn't care. Thus forgiveness comes in over time . Imo it's easier to forgive then have to make people learn a lesson that they'll probably forget over a period of lifetimes- just like this society -Jesus's death looks irrelevant because that stuff is all word of mouth and isn't written in a book intelligently enough you didn't need thousands of religions to explain one simple concept of God.

  • @tedkomi6512
    @tedkomi6512 9 месяцев назад +2

    Exactly ,your logicis impeccable

  • @jimadams7828
    @jimadams7828 Год назад +2

    Put on the cross Friday morning (probably took until Friday evening to die) and arise Sunday morning, that is only 1 and 1/2 days. Then get to live forever. Not much of a sacrifice.

  • @shaunigothictv1003
    @shaunigothictv1003 4 года назад +10

    Amazing analysis.

  • @geraldeade391
    @geraldeade391 3 года назад +15

    Excellent, finally someone who talks sense.

  • @rehanmonis99
    @rehanmonis99 2 года назад +2

    So which came first Egg or chicken?

    • @grimreapy
      @grimreapy Год назад

      The Egg

    • @cthulhu4411
      @cthulhu4411 8 месяцев назад

      It's pretty safe to say that the egg came first because if there had been no egg, there would have been no chicken. Chickens are birds, and we know that birds evolved from reptiles, so we can say that the first bird hatched from an egg that was laid by a reptile that was very similar to, but not quite, a bird itself

  • @Gibson-md9yi
    @Gibson-md9yi 8 месяцев назад +2

    My question about religion, is this. What does the Roman government have anything to do with the person that created earth... Because that's what the story is basically about about the Roman government. What does a Roman government story have anything to do with the person that created earth. I was born Catholic. I do think it has its good points, but stop threatening people with hellfire over natural human behavior. If they don't pay, they're gonna go to hell....to me it's all about greed and money.. the church is worth billions

  • @jonhales1905
    @jonhales1905 2 года назад +3

    Who is this guy I need to hear more what’s his name

  • @brooklynnlou4
    @brooklynnlou4 Год назад +3

    That was Great!

  • @pcjoseph5937
    @pcjoseph5937 2 года назад +2

    Right on

  • @brunogalati8408
    @brunogalati8408 2 месяца назад +1

    ok if there god why is there so much unhappiness in the world then and why is there death in the world if there god why don't the god show himself and help people out then

  • @Baran_2000
    @Baran_2000 Год назад +2

    well said

  • @Leonard-td5rn
    @Leonard-td5rn 3 месяца назад

    Which denomination knows about the Bible easy The Catholic Church

  • @nori_tutor
    @nori_tutor 2 года назад +1

    People always say "But Christianity has aspects from older religions" Ok, the bible started to be written around 1500 BC, and according to the bible, waaay before it was even written. God was already talking and saying He was the only one to men, like, Abraham lived around 1800 BC, and he was the 20° Generation of Adam, God was already "in the game" way before other religions. It's not as if He showed up all of a sudden in Christ and then invalidated other religions.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +3

      Hinduism is the oldest practiced religion

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 "One of the oldest" If we look at the proven facts, yes, it is older. But according to the book of Genesis the "gospel of Jesus" as we know it today is way older, and came before all other religions. Now, I'm really not going to enter in this aspect of proving with physical evidence, because, well, this is just not what Jesus is about. May Jesus bless you, bro!

    • @shadrachemmanuel1720
      @shadrachemmanuel1720 Год назад +2

      ​@@nori_tutor Why should we care about the book of Genesis? The fact that civilization existed for 8000 years before this Jewish god showed up raises some questions, why didn't he show up at the start of civilization or even better, at the start of the human race or homosapiens as we know?

    • @shadrachemmanuel1720
      @shadrachemmanuel1720 Год назад

      ​@@nori_tutor Why did your god create the devil? and why did he create the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil if he didn't want Adam and Eve to eat it? Why did God regret wiping out the world with a global flood if he knew he was going to do it ? And why would a rational benevolent god create a vast universe and destroy it because a tiny little man on a tiny little planet ate a magical little fruit? How would Adam and Eve know that eating the fruit was bad if they had to eat to eat it to have knowledge of Good and Evil ? Where did sin come from, if your god didn't create it? And what happened to my African ancestors who died before the "good news" was brought to the African continent by missionaries, did your loving God send them to hell?

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor Год назад

      @@shadrachemmanuel1720 This is the thing, you believe we (humans) came from hundreds and hundreds of evolution throughout billion of years. I believe the first human was created exactly like we are by God. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying evolutionism is all wrong, I actually believe evolution is real. But not exactly like they picture for us, humans.

  • @kolaphillips4187
    @kolaphillips4187 5 лет назад +5

    Philosophy over man made religion. Claiming absolutism and control is the religious way. Alan Watts alternative philosophy is quite enjoyable.

  • @audifonosinalambricostwsco4488
    @audifonosinalambricostwsco4488 2 года назад +1

    you know you trust , you hate Jesus Christ bicause hi is the trust and the way. and not, debauchery,seek eternal life friend, there is nothing more valuable than that.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +3

      You're praying to the wrong god, and each time you do the real god gets more and more pissed off. You have been warned.

    • @audifonosinalambricostwsco4488
      @audifonosinalambricostwsco4488 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 , you wrong , who do you think is the real god? .

  • @AnnetQuintanaKnowsBest
    @AnnetQuintanaKnowsBest 5 лет назад +8

    What is going on with people nowadays ? This video deserves many more views and likes than it has. Sad, really. As usual, awesome content and I would love to see more videos on the subject.

  • @francisgoin3112
    @francisgoin3112 11 месяцев назад

    I am wondering if you mistake figurative language as literal thinking.
    "Bloodline" refers to the head of the household, and in this, the cultures concerned with "bloodline" have been and are patriarchal. A dominant cultural practice is the female taking the surname of the male in marriage; the woman forgoes her birth surname (and so "bloodline") to enter the "bloodline" of the man. A son ensures that this practice continues. We are not confused that a female and male offspring have genetics coming from the same set of parents - that both have the same "line of blood." This is a bad argument.
    "Planting a seed" is a euphemism and usually derogatory as it places a lower value on the female than the male. "Because people back then didn't know about females having eggs and males having sperm, they actually thought there were little seeds that came out of the penis and got planted into soil inside the woman's body and a baby grew like a plant!" Weird argument, man. Childish level of thinking.
    Attributing the specific characteristics of man to God doesn't make sense, even for theists. God is not man. What are you even arguing?
    I appreciate your boldness in stating your view point. You are free to see the world as you want. Therein, why do you have this focus for Jesus, specifically? What about Jesus pushes you to speak against him?

  • @halimakariuki395
    @halimakariuki395 2 года назад +4

    Lol… the wisdom of man.. choose your battles wisely ooh man.! Choose your sides well. Jesus is the way and truth… we are all given the choice to believe what we wanna believe. What happens after death, we will only find out then. I choose to believe in Jesus.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +4

      A man claiming to speak for god is still nothing more than a man.

    • @JohnnysReels
      @JohnnysReels 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603… a man with a bizarre truth claim. But let’s face it, we all make statements & truth claims, the real concern should be raised when considering the evidence behind any claim. Are they a lunatic, or were they speaking the truth? The historical evidence behind the credibility of Christ is what influences me to trust Christ in this reality. I see you oppose that perspective, in that case what do you trust, what is the meaning of life, & what have you found to be more credible than Jesus Christ? In other words, you, a man who intricately communicates his thoughts across in such an effective way, what’s the evidence behind what you’re living for to be a wise decision?

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +1

      ​@@JohnnysReels Better guidance than a god that sacrifices himself to himself in order to save us from himself (but only if you believe it) for the talking snake incident? How about Mother Goose?

    • @JohnnysReels
      @JohnnysReels 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 you’re pretty intellectually dishonest. I’m sure you have motives, drives, & personal reasons that have led you to reject Christ. But if you make a video to tackle the theology behind Christ from a logical or “intellectual” standpoint, yet cannot provide what your “better guidance” is, that I’m sure makes way more sense than Jesus does.. cmon sir.
      There’s something deeper involved in your reason to reject Christ.

    • @ducati3241
      @ducati3241 2 года назад +2

      I believe in Jesus but not in the religion of Christianity.
      I believed e only God to be worshipped none other than Allah SWT, the Only One..the Everlasting..the Eternal..
      Alhamdulillah..☝🏻🤓🤓🤓

  • @anthonypiseno6341
    @anthonypiseno6341 5 лет назад +3

    Fourth false premise: the separation from polytheism happened in the old Testament when Abraham was told not to sacrifice his son when all other gods commanded such.

    • @norbeekash2699
      @norbeekash2699 3 года назад +1

      Later there was a guy in the Bible who sacrificed his daughter to "God" to win some battle. The Bible is a barbaric book written by a bunch of narcissistic psychopaths who happened to be shepherds of sheeps

  • @anthonypiseno6341
    @anthonypiseno6341 5 лет назад +8

    Ultimately it was quite comical watching you attempt to use philosophy and to interpret Christianity. Even from a literalist and fundamentalist level it isn't there.

    • @anthonypiseno6341
      @anthonypiseno6341 4 года назад

      @@MoonMantis-x1l Some rebuttal. Your ability to interpret my comments must be a joke. See how that works?

    • @anthonypiseno6341
      @anthonypiseno6341 4 года назад

      @@MoonMantis-x1l lol

    • @himez
      @himez 3 года назад +4

      @@anthonypiseno6341 keep believing in your fairytales

  • @brbrbuckeye
    @brbrbuckeye 4 года назад +5

    Be afraid of he who can kill the body and the soul.

    • @brbrbuckeye
      @brbrbuckeye Год назад

      @@blacksheepblacksheep5727 that's not a fear tactic, that's learning to respect God, not man.

    • @brbrbuckeye
      @brbrbuckeye Год назад

      @@mager888 always an imitation that will claim to be first by the author 9f confusion.

    • @shadrachemmanuel1720
      @shadrachemmanuel1720 Год назад

      ​@@brbrbuckeye Why should anyone worship your god and not all others e.g. Allah or Vishnu

    • @cthulhu4411
      @cthulhu4411 8 месяцев назад

      Typical bullcrap religious threats and this is why we hate you people, keep your beliefs to yourself and stop hating people who disagree

  • @reg8297
    @reg8297 2 года назад

    Don't take that chance not to believe that your sins wont b judged by a just god too much of a chance to take not to think your soul exists and will b judged they will only burn in lake of fire if they do not repent omce u repent you are saying i detest the sin that jesus died on the cross for if u don't repent it means the evil u done and didn't repent for will have u ending up in hell cause god said no evil will inherit the kingdom of heaven

  • @komislattroblox1806
    @komislattroblox1806 3 года назад +1

    God God gave his only son his only son to die for us so that we can understand that he loves us don't you get it he loves those that he died for us it's like I love my dog so much that I would pay so much money for him to live again it's logic

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  3 года назад

      Oh, so he's dead? You don't believe Jesus exists anymore?

    • @komislattroblox1806
      @komislattroblox1806 3 года назад +1

      I do!!!!

    • @korvus1248
      @korvus1248 2 года назад

      Lol breathe

    • @blackatheistmillionaire1636
      @blackatheistmillionaire1636 2 года назад

      Yeah angelica, god loves us so much that he sits back 24 hours a day 7 days a week watching thousands of rapes (a lot children) ,abductions,murders, and 26000 children dying daily from starvation and does NOTHING. I hate to see how he treats those he don't love.😳

  • @anthonypiseno6341
    @anthonypiseno6341 5 лет назад +5

    Fifth false premise: God and Jesus are not the same but one in the same in the sense that God is connected to Christ in that Christ lives as God.
    God is not dying to save us from himself, but to save us from ourselves. And if you understood scripture you would have understood that hell is not God's punishment but a punishment that must exist as separation from God can only set an eternal soul to that which is absent of God. I digress that this is a more literal reading without looking at the archetypes. But you do not seem interested in that but taking scripture as a sort of historical telling.
    It is only a sham as you put it, if you misunderstand it completely as you have.

    • @mwangimuturi1091
      @mwangimuturi1091 2 года назад +1

      Jesus is dying to save us not from his dad but to save us from ourselves. Meaning we created hell not God. Therefore we created God too.

    • @blackatheistmillionaire1636
      @blackatheistmillionaire1636 2 года назад +1

      Anthony,how can there be "separation from god" if god is everywhere? Stop rationalizing for your imaginary friend and his book of fairy tales for adults.🙄

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor 2 года назад

      @@blackatheistmillionaire1636 God is everywhere in the sense of he's aware of all places and he can see all places. But his attributes is not there, if you think a little bit more and try to actually see if you might be wrong you'll start to see there might be other explanations.

  • @fakhrulnawawi9681
    @fakhrulnawawi9681 2 года назад +1

    Ure not wrong brother

  • @amyhuntington5336
    @amyhuntington5336 3 года назад

    Jesus Christ is proven to have existed, and every one in this world will confess he is God and bow to him during judgement,when he does come back.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  3 года назад +7

      No he hasn't. He's a combination of different myths written be different people in different times.

    • @amyhuntington5336
      @amyhuntington5336 3 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 you literally never even waited to see what I had to say before assuming and that was AFTER I said Jesus IS PROVEN to have existed…. Once you really consider questions like why is earth the only planet that has gravity, not just scientifically either,…or what is consciousness,not how it’s used, what is it, where does it come from? ..or ..where does morality actually come from,(and if you do say anything other than Jesus,{the Trinity} I can guarantee you will one day acknowledge cracks in your analysis and realize their is more to life and that you can’t explain it,…whether it be now or when your standing in front of God.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  3 года назад +5

      There is plenty we can't explain. I prefer to address these things by honestly acknowledging that I don't know. People like you are so confident of the answer. These men claiming to speak for god somehow had more authority to do so than the thousands of other men making the same claim. You can't guarantee me anything. You've chosen madness over reason, I've chosen reason over madness. But in today's world this is a luxury argument. If you believe in freedom, individual rights and liberty. If you're against the infestation of social Marxism in the USA, then we agree on something far more important than religion IMO.

    • @amyhuntington5336
      @amyhuntington5336 3 года назад +1

      @@everythingstemporary603 I’m glad your honest about the fact that there are plenty of things we can’t explain,I am glad you acknowledge that, at least that’s one thing we both have in common, I don’t know all the answers in life either,it goes to show theirs more to life than meets the eye,…but…one thing I am confident about is that Jesus Christ is God, I am confident that the Trinity is real, I can say that for many reasons, and prove it for many as well, i’m not saying it to be some kind of prideful know it all, I am saying it because I am 100% confident about God, The thing is some people just give lipservice other people actually obey God and do his will and there’s a lot of confusion because a lot of people that “say” they believe in Jesus can’t actually explain things that people need to know or questions that they have and on top of it don’t have an authentic relationship because they don’t put the time in to pray or read,which is sad but it’s reality, but there are people out there who actually obey God and do his will and can confidently say he is real, and by me believing God exist after having researched every other religion and every other God and taking the time out to do research about life and science and everything I could think of to understand why Jesus Christ is God and why it’s not somebody else or something else,….I am 100% confident Jesus is God and I believe the Bible (not every single “Bible”) one, 1611 King James Version, because it comes from the original manuscripts…and written in the Bible God said every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord,….This is why I said I can guarantee you that you will find cracks in your analysis for what you believe because when Jesus does come back and you’re standing in front of him, there will be no good enough answers to justify what you believe right now. What I’ve chosen is truth over lies, I am glad that we both believe in freedom, individual rights, and liberty,… just to say about religion, I don’t belong to a specific denomination,i’ve never even been to a church service, that’s not how God pursued me, I didn’t need a church to know Jesus Christ exist, The closest thing to a religious name that people could label me as I guess is a fundamentalist because I read the Bible and I believe that we should obey it if we choose, which I choose to I am willing to, God is not forceful, he wouldn’t have it any other way,but…we seem to each have our own beliefs so, no point in continuing on the topic of this, even though we don’t believe the same things I am glad that we do believe in some things which are very important things to.

    • @korvus1248
      @korvus1248 2 года назад +2

      Sombody write in a book that jesus is real 'hmm I have no reason to question this' with no evidence. Like he said 'madness over reasoning'

  • @heidig.1565
    @heidig.1565 4 года назад +2

    "God so loved the world that He gave His only son" This statement was so we can understand that he loved his son as much as most of us love our children, yet he gave him up anyway. What you're saying could be correct if God didn't really care what happens to us. If you take out the love then, sure. You've also not taken into account that he gave the bible for people to read today. Think about what it says in modern times and less how it speaks to people thousands of years ago. There are several ways to look at the bible that makes sense and if you do interpret the bible as something of an all-powerful God. The simple fact about the trinity is that it's nearly impossible to explain. Also to be able to get into heaven you have to have a repentant heart. You can't treat it like, "I can do whatever I want because I can come back and be forgiven and go to heaven". That's just not how it works. Only those who are actually sorry are allowed into heaven. If you really take a look at the bible and study it, then you'd have an argument. Dude, seriously. The answers to most of your comments are in the bible.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  4 года назад +2

      Wow, what a great argument. You convinced me. I'm a Christian now.

    • @heidig.1565
      @heidig.1565 4 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 amazon.com/Case-Christ-Mike-Vogel/dp/B074N9JDWX/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Case+for+Christ&qid=1604442771&sr=8-2
      Watch this and let's see if you can disprove it after

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  4 года назад +3

      @@heidig.1565 No, not going to waste my time. The greatest arguments you people can come up with is always some vague god of the gaps. I've seen all the crap the best apologists can give out. I've been debunking that nonsense for years. If you want to believe that a god sacrificed himself to save us from himself for the talking snake incident, but only if you believe it, then knock yourself out.

    • @heidig.1565
      @heidig.1565 4 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 Suit yourself. But if you really want to be credible then this is how you do it. You do research and really study all the arguments instead of tossing them out. And for the record, the link I put doesn't have any vagueness. Just the opposite. I would be much more inclined to hear your position and argument if you didn't ignore evidence such as what I put as a link. If you aren't willing to see other's perspectives, then your own doesn't hold water.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  4 года назад

      @@heidig.1565 Already heard plenty of "other's perspectives." You're making assumptions. Go ahead, make your best argument for god. No links, use your words. Your best argument.

  • @nori_tutor
    @nori_tutor 2 года назад +2

    I got some arguments for your questions, I hope you're willing to learn :)
    1. God has billions of sons, however think for yourself, let's suppose you're God, and with you there is God the son and God the spirit, these are with you, they are you, since the time where time didn't even exist. And then you say "Okay, these are my sons and daughters THROUGH faith in my true son" But, there is a huge difference between us, adopted children, to His beloved son, the one who is God Himself, and has been with him before there was time and space. And also, God can't just create God, is it a limit? I don't know, but it wouldn't also make any sense for him to Create God, as He is not something to create, to begin to exist, He is He. God can't create God, and He gave Himself, which couldn't be simply made for us.
    2 What about that explanation with the seed of the man and the woman and so on? Well, again, think, why would I talk about science with people who couldn't even understand the basics of mathematics. As God, I would have to communicate in a way people could understand, this argument just doesn't prove God does not exist.
    3. God is in fact one, God the Father, God the son and God the spirit, they are "different" in a sense, they can think and do all God stuff for their own, but they are connected, in everything, which make them one in the end of the day. If you worship one you're worshipping the others, since you accept His son. We don't have multiple gods, they are not different in essence, power or ideas. With this you can see why Jesus says "My God, why have you forsaken me?" THEY ARE DIFFERENT BEINGS, LITERALLY. Think a little, there were times where Jesus were on Earth and God literally talked from Heaven, how would they be just one person and talk to themselves? You're clearly seeing the Trinity with a shallow perspective, mine is not deep by the way, I am learning lol
    4. What about forgiveness?
    I can forgive you for breaking my car, but someone's still gotta pay the bill, right?? And even though I forgave you, that doesn't mean I should pay it. You see, the idea is simple, God is Holy, it's IMPOSSIBLE for a dirty being to live with Him, so somebody had to pay the "bill"! And His son practically "bought us" when He gave Himself, and the only way for us to get clean would be to believe this sacrifice happened in the first place.
    5 Why do you think the sacrifice is a sham? If your all mighty son sacrifices himself for millions of mortal and you could have the power to freely bring him back, wouldn't you do it? Would his sacrifice be in vain just because of that? The ones who sinned were still us, we didn't deserve not even to exist! Much less any kind of sacrifice. God can't die, but we can, so don't focus on "Oh, but he could simply come to life again" Yeah, but we can't! And He did this so he could bring US back to life in the other side, we just need to be a little faithful for a period of time and He will give us eternal life, how is this unfair???
    And also, let's use your mindset, this one "Why would His sacrifice be of big value if he could come back to life?" Okay, okay, so think with me too. Why would me, an eternal God, give eternal life to my enemy just because he made "good deeds" while he was alive for a period that passed in like one second for me? Here, heaven through good work is debunked. And also, God shouldn't even value any of our sacrifices, even after becoming Christians, as it will never pay an eternal life with him, but yet, he has something called grace. This same grace which values the Christians who die for their brothers also value the One who "threw himself on a hand-grenade for his enemies" Even though all of us Christians will live anyways! People usually talk about how unfair is but don't try to flip the table around

    • @oO-wb6cu
      @oO-wb6cu 2 года назад +4

      The fact that humans have to argue for god is simple proof that an omnipotent being doesn't exist.

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor 2 года назад +1

      @@oO-wb6cu Ok buddy, God bless you

    • @achalseth545
      @achalseth545 2 года назад +1

      the problem isnt ones religion, but rather the ignorance, arrogance and elitist mindset that comes with it.

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor 2 года назад

      @@achalseth545 Ok buddy, have a great day ❤️

    • @usacycling5949
      @usacycling5949 2 года назад

      If people have to explain why we should fallow a make believe being then that being must of not had a strong impact for man kind or people all around the world would know who he is not just the Christians that he talked to about it and the fact of everything needs to come from something then that means God had to come from somewhere higher then him

  • @ballin3230
    @ballin3230 2 года назад

    Jesus is God just in a flesh form. We are considered children of God, Jesus was a male and was in human form that’s why he was called Son of God. He was special because HE WAS GOD. We aren’t God that’s why we don’t get powers. If Jesus was just a regular human, how would his sacrifice atone for all of mankind? You don’t know the word of God.

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +2

      "My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me" Jesus said to himself?

    • @ballin3230
      @ballin3230 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 he’s talking AS THE FLESH so yes he technically said that to himself. Him saying that represents all of mankind talking to God. Jesus was the representative of man, so he spoke on behalf of man with that statement. If you were inclined with God’s purpose and not being an outsider who doesn’t understand scripture it would make sense. You can look this up and find an answer but you are too naive and lazy. I literally looked it up on google…..

    • @ballin3230
      @ballin3230 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 literally the universe existing proves that there is a God because something had to have created it use your brain. And look at society right now, all these things happening all at once is just a coincidence? Why has the world gotten worse and worse since Covid? But you are gonna find out soon

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +1

      Oh, and you would like that wouldn't you? You'll be in heaven with a joker smile plastered on your face looking down on people screaming in agony. Go babble your nonsense somewhere else.

    • @ballin3230
      @ballin3230 2 года назад

      @@everythingstemporary603 lol I said that because you atheist don’t know what you are talking about. I’m telling you this so you know the truth and change. If I wanted you to suffer I wouldn’t have said anything….. think about it.

  • @anthonypiseno6341
    @anthonypiseno6341 5 лет назад +2

    Second false premise: Nit picking at terminology concerning God's begotten son versus us all being his son is not an argument.
    Making speculation about what God should do or can do with multiple special sons is a ridiculous and moot notion. It's logic by complication, with little to no meaning. Poor philosophy to say the least.

  • @AnnetQuintanaKnowsBest
    @AnnetQuintanaKnowsBest 5 лет назад +1

    That's why I believe that when school budgets are cut, the first classes to go are humanities classes, the creative classes, anything that may lead to a child being exposed to a variety of ideas and having to analyze and assign value to those ideas. While sciences can change by the day as we discover new things, religion encourages things to stay the same as they were when this bronze age war God supposedly gave people his word. I've always wondered where "God" was before 2000 BC Palestine ? Cultures had been born and declined for thousands of years if not longer before the Jewish god appears in the mythology. It's just silly that grown adults can disregard the contradictions, immorality and just plain bad ideas in a very old, anonymous book that espouses ideas in the second half that completely contradict the first, like the idea of Hell. I think my favorite point to bring up to believers is what I like to call the "Satan Paradox". IF Satan is really the bad guy of the story, why is it hes the only honest one ? HE tells Eve the truth, not God. HE shows Gods fickle cruelty with Job, HE tempts Jesus with mortal happiness, discouraging Jesus giving up joy on earth for the nebulous promise of joy in heaven. HE encourages free thinking, exploration, questions unneeded authority and defies unfair commandments. Meanwhile God kills, tortures and hurts all while encouraging his people to do the same. God forces man to his knees by circumventing free will, just to have an excuse to punish man. God prevents the evolution of ideas and discourages people from cooperating in any cause other than his own. In ANY other story, God would be the villain and Satan the hero. Now try to reconcile that with what you have been conditioned to believe, by random chance. Because only the fact that you were born to a Christian society and not a Hindu or Buddhist one is what gives you the beliefs that you at the very least, claim to hold dear. Otherwise, you just as fervently would hold Allah or Shiva up as your ultimate judge and jury. Wow, this is a long comment. Lol. Didnt mean to write a novel here, I just get so worked up by the damage done by man in the name of his various deities.

    • @shaunigothictv1003
      @shaunigothictv1003 4 года назад

      Amazing analysis.
      You should make youtube videos as you have a gift for explaining things clearly.

  • @nori_tutor
    @nori_tutor 2 года назад

    I do not have any physical proof to show people Jesus is real and he died for our sins, it's true. But lemme be honest with y'all, in all my life, after a long time on my own. Nothing, absolutely nothing could fill my void or set me free from many things which I felt was sucking me mentally and spiritually. And from the moment I decided to accept Jesus, in just one minute, that deep emptiness I had been trying to fulfill my whole life was fully filled. I don't have a physical proof, but I don't need no other thing to tell me He is real. And I want to ask all of you, who are not Christians, don't answer ME, answer to yourself. Are you totally and completely happy and complete, and in peace? Like, really?

    • @everythingstemporary603
      @everythingstemporary603  2 года назад +1

      Yes

    • @nori_tutor
      @nori_tutor Год назад

      @@blacksheepblacksheep5727 I'm glad I stopped debating with certain people...these things never take us anywhere.

  • @anthonypiseno6341
    @anthonypiseno6341 5 лет назад +2

    First false premise: Blind faith.
    There is no such thing, faith is always based on evidence even if that evidence is the trust of what you are being told. This harms your point, as you most information is taken through the trust of the one presenting it. I understand what you expect from individuals however, as you should know, most do not practice such expectations. Thus, you began with a moot point.

    • @LEON46051
      @LEON46051 4 года назад +1

      Is there anything one cannot believe based on faith?

    • @percaholic6939
      @percaholic6939 3 года назад

      that's a lie. faith is not always based on evidence. if fact most of the time it isn't

  • @jjfabulois22
    @jjfabulois22 3 месяца назад

    Hey have fun dealing w/the gospel. The preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who don't believe. God is still eternal and outside of any and everything you or I could ever fully understand. God is God, that is never gonna' change. You need to stop trying to understand and just believe❤

  • @anthonypiseno6341
    @anthonypiseno6341 5 лет назад +1

    Third false premise: breaking down the biological understanding we have today and comparing it to biblical statements and interpretation is an issue. In other words, you use biblical literalism in order to prove in your view that man invented God rather than taking into account that perhaps those writers knew what they were doing.

    • @MacLaw3084
      @MacLaw3084 3 года назад

      many believers are literalists; so may be you guys figure it out amongst yourselves and get back to us.

  • @filipemsj
    @filipemsj 3 года назад

    Hi. You told the story which Christianity talks about, and not the true story or history of the Bible. Yes, Christianity is based on Greek mythology and other lies, and it's far from the truth of the Bible. Trinity, hell tormenting people forever, to die and to live in heaven, etc, these are lies which are not in the Bible. ... The truth is in the Bible not in religions. Our CREATOR has nothing to do with any religion, he is a loving perfect FATHER teaching his children how to live properly. ... And religions which preach and want blind faith, the Bible talks about knowledge and wisdom, GOD wants our faith/trust in him based on facts, evidence, proofs, knowledge. "Faith" is not just to believe, faith is to trust. The CREATOR of all things wants you to trust him, for your own benefit. He who created everything knows how everything works and he wants the best life for you, and you will only live the best life if you follow the CREATOR's instructions. ... Jesus Christ was the first and only human to follow GOD's instructions perfectly, and so Christ is our model of how to live properly. Christ is our older brother who lived 100% according to our FATHER's instructions. It's written that If we follow Jesus Christ in obedience to GOD we will live forever in a perfect new earth; even if we die now, we will be resurrected and live forever, as happened to Christ. Those who don't want to live like Christ following our CREATOR's instructions will die or cease to exist permanently because of their own mistakes. ... Our CREATOR is a loving perfect FATHER who gives freedom and educates his children; those who don't want to be educated will die in their pride and own mistakes. ... GOD is love, Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life.
    Forget about religions and study the Bible. Pray or talk to your CREATOR with honesty and sincerely, ask him for help; seek him with all that you have and it's written that you will find him.
    I don't belong to any religion or organization. For now I'm alone with GOD, thanks to him. My RUclips channel has some playlists with Bible truths. Please watch at least two playlists: "! The Real Historical Jesus/Yeshua" e "! Why Can I Trust The Bible?".
    I wish our CREATOR enlightens you.

    • @filipemsj
      @filipemsj 3 года назад

      PS: The word "christian" comes from "Christ's follower" and has nothing to do with religion. We need to follow only Jesus Christ, our perfect older brother.

    • @blackatheistmillionaire1636
      @blackatheistmillionaire1636 2 года назад

      😅😅😅😅😅