If You Find One of These... BUY, BUY, BUY. The Killer Pioneer Elite PD-93 CD Player
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2022
- Featuring enough copper to mint $10k in pennies, the PD-93 is ridiculous in build quality and sonics. Buy one if you can find one.
Sixth video in our "Buy Buy Buy" series features a spectacular vintage find, the best Pioneer CD player made.
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The engineering on that is just outstanding. Sadly i dont think we will ever see audio electronics of this design and quality ever again. Everything it built to cost these days.
Its seems like the modern audio companies dont have the budgets and resources to engineer stuff like this.
This is just wrong. There are still many many companies producing such high end audio stuff. Only the large consumer companies stopped with them.
I love these videos you have been doing like this. This player is awesome. Damn,what a beast...
Thanks sir. Its a beast indeed. More videos in this format coming soon. They seem to be working well.
Brilliant thanks. Would love to see the same sort of video for the 91. Can't get enough of these classics.
Sure thing!
Wow, that build quality is literally astounding. Man oh man...thanks so much for sharing that.
Glad you like it!
I have a 91 myself, and a friend who has a 95.
Thank you Fernando for these vids. Love the. Bench type workstation setting. Always nice to see your amazing setups. It Would be amazing to see maybe A great “how to basic troubleshooting “style videos on amplifiers or receivers the walk steps you take to start in your diagnostic process.
Either way. Thank you for your content. I look forward to each one. I’ve have learned a lot from you.
Noted!
I have the PD-91 and love it to bits. Build quality is amazing and it sounds wonderful. Not one dimensional, overly glassy or bright, as is often associated with digital. This thing has real depth, sounds analogue, detailed, robust and balanced to my ears. I have a great vinyl front end and still find music/cd's a delight via the PD-91 - I'll never move it on.
SkiFi AUdio, I also own this model and the drawer exit mechanism is slower at the exit end, mechanically it behaves normally. Congrats on the reviews, you're doing a fantastic job, I love following you. 😊
My PD 65, I bought new somewhere in the late 80s or 90s and it still works perfectly today. I love the remote control!
So many buttons! Must take forever to pick one :-)
I had the PD 75 in 92 fantastic player.. I replaced the woden end cheeks with solid rosewood a friend of mine was a piano technician, he made a great job.
Paul thanks for sharing, the sides could really use an upgrade.
NICE! the Pioneer Elite and Sony ES series' were great components and for the most part built like a tank. I have a Denon DVD-5000 which i use as my main CD player and it's awesome and built like a tank as well.
Some of them were. Gotta be careful thought as they all look similar
Yeah quality. I have a PD75. Not quite as grand as this but it's not bad at all. This is a bit of dream boat. Love your channel. That SAE set up a few weeks back was gold too.
Thanks for watching!
I love CD players from Japan. I also like the sony ES line.
Thanks , have a nice day !
How I envy you. A great job dealing with great kit. Excellent presentation.
Thanks Robert. Appreciate the feedback.
Hi Ferdinando
Yes I love you to do a review of the 91 as well. A great review of the 93.
Coming soon!
Super easy to replicate those fake rosewood sides with solid Rosewood, If I were paying $2,000.00 for one of these you can bet your arse I would do just that, put those originals away in a soft, safe storage.
Great project too.
Would be great to see pd91, thanks for sharing those videos!
Ok, Im on it!
Got one 🤩🥳
Excellent cd player, the best of Pioneer! I also had the PD-91 and it really sounded bad!!
Thanks for the very good video, yes please make avideo for the 91 as well
You got it!
That was the stuff in the early 80's at my stereo compact disc store
Good show ol boy👌🏽
it only came out almost in the 90´s ,but there was a very nice cd player in early 80´s from pioneer i´m not sure but it´s the PD-A1,that the cd is inserted like a cassette in a regular deck
@@RUfromthe40s I'm getting old.
There is this nice English tonguetwister that came to my mind when seeing all this copper: "Are you copperbottoming um, Son? - No I'm Aluminiuming um, Mum!" 😂
Pioneer Elite was a much missued sub brand that covered a lot of models, some were just rebadged
versions from their standard range.
The trick as you have stated is to find the real gems.
Only a small selection were available here in the UK, and were very expensive.
I always wanted a full rack of Elite's, perhaps i might find some at sensible prices, but for now
they will remain a dream.🙂👍
Indeed, thank Allan.
stunning workshop !!!
This is one of the best CD player to date. It is using PCM63 DAC covered with copper shield, the sound from it is extraordinary.
How does it compare to a newer Denon DCD-S10II for example ?
@@ThomasL Thomas it comes down to a matter of taste and audio equitment matching (Synergy)
Indeed, its all a matter of taste.
Pioneer made several better ones in Japan under the "T" series, like the PD-T07, PD-T07 limited, and the PD-T09 which the later is the best CD player they ever made and is far better (and much more expensive) then the PD-5000/PD-93.
@@aegisofhonor You correct Basically Pioneers Domestic market they got a lot of good audio in Japan -But also100v
Tuff thing about cd players is their fragile in shipping
The PD-93 was a work of art.
My 15yo pioneer sacd midrange player also have copper crews, also a really good remote made of aluminium
The price of these is getting ridiculous, for the money they’re going for, you can get newer better audiophile stuff, I always fit Dip8 sockets on the older stuff and do some op amp rolling. Love watching your strip downs and talk through, thank you for taking the time👍
My Pleasure Paul. Pls be sure to subscribe to see future ones. Cheers.
I have the PD-65 which is almost the same & still sounds great as a transport.
Thats a nice one too.
wow, built like a tank, they put so much quality on this one
Not sure how they made money on it. I can imagine the Japanese workers hand wrapping each capacitor in copper lol.
Thanks I look forward to it
Hope you like it!
I regret selling my pioneer elite vsx 49txi reciever. It weighed a ton and had an all copper chassis under the hood. I used it as a power amp and it sounded really good. Snatch them up if you can find them.
i only had a AV receiver and was brought to me from the U.S. had yellow lights in the display instead of siver but was the high end of pioneers av receivers at the time but had a quality of sound that i never heard till today in other was very heavy but older ,to the new more evolved AV receivers this doesn´t have any form of surround either than the older one but never the less as i said before maybe the best i ever heard
Sounds like we all have a regrettable story about selling some piece of gear in the pursuit of nirvana.
I see you got you one !!! 😆 badazz 95 ! !! Hard to find ! I almost bought another PD65 actually was going to reach out to you to see if you could put on a new laser and recap power supply and maybe add IEC for detacable power cable 😆 thanks for the video !
Also in 2010 Pioneer built a 40k + Cd transport/dac avrshowrooms channel has the video the transport is like 80 pounds !
Also Yamaha Cenntinieal cd 10000 is very hi-end also 😆
Wadia both used Pioneers Stable platter
Sorry I wrote a book i get excited
Yeah video the other player
Thanks Tee-Jay. Love your excitement. Keep the feedback coming.
What a beast. Great video.
Also: Et Cetera (not eck cetera) :P
If it sounds as good as it looks, it must be quite amazing.
It is!
beautiful af
The internals are the most beautiful I've ever saw
I regret not buying some of the pioneer elite when i had the chance.
I was just starting out and they were going for around 800-12000nzd for the pre amp and power amp.
Down under, did they say Elite on them?
Splendide !
This component use to cost 1430 GBP in 1991.
i still use mine after owning a equal cd player the pd-7300 that in this year there was no pd-9300 ,only next year catalog ,the laser in germany cost in 2015, 400€ and in Portugal but to technicians not to the people cost 300€ ,with this money one could buy another high-end cd player from pioneer in 87 ,while cd players from sony(but i have to refer that when cd players were being released for the first year in Europe a friend of mine that his father went to work in Macau ,china that was still Portuguese in the 80´s he sent maybe the expensier cd player from sony at the time and it still works perfect today while other top end models bought in Europe didn´t even arrive to the 2000´s much more 2022 )till 92 were so bad that some even at the end of 8 months started to give problems while this model that came out in late 80´s still works today with heavy use and some laser tuning like it´s done to the heads of cassette deck´s azimuth, and this was the URUSHI version ,in this case it´s the american version wich they call ELITE but ELITE sells in the American countries not only high-end components but cheaper components that are only available there ,like multi-players that in Europe almost nobody buys them due to their inferior quality ,also in Europe only top-end components like this or the other components top-end model of each catalog are sold like URUSHI and doesn´t say ELITE anywhere also because high-end stuff doesn´t come full of letters they have a sober look, and there´s in other brands ELITE designation like in QUAD or other and the main diference is the colour of the display wich is yellow in America and silver(with reflex of blue in the liquid crystal characteres) in EUROPE, just compare them and you´ll notice what i try to describe here, but this is a incredible good cd player, i had the PD-73 when starting to assemble a URUSHI components system, next year when this model came out inside was just like the PD-73 but i ended up buying a more modern cd player but stilll this works perfect and one notices a better sound than in other brands cd players and still working all this years after without any type of failure due to it´s better quality of construction, pioneer cd players were maybe also develod by CEC like in the 90´s the turntables cd players from pioneer and CEC cd player being considered the best in the world at the time wich was belt driven,again i have to refer a coment i ´ve read in a known hi-fi magazine that said "...the most analog cd player" (because of the belt),all should work well but there are a few that pass to the hands of a children and they can destroy anything ,like a friend of mine that at the end of two years the cd player like this one didn´t play at all when one inserted the cd ,we took it to a german technician that lived in our town and two days after he phoned to us to go and get the cd player that was again in perfect condition and when asking the technician what was the problem ,he told us that was nothing related to the cd player it self but then he give us a litle plastic bag with 3 litle iron cars that were inside the cd player , his son used to open the drawer and with very çlitle space he inserted matchbox cars inside the cd player through the drawer wich we tried and was dificult but kids do understand more than us of litle cars inserted in litle holes, that happens all the time but inside a PD-93 was the first and only time i ever saw
Interesting, thanks for the info Rui. So Urushi was the Japanese designation for Elite which was only USA?
@@SkyFiAudio URUSHI is what in Europe is ELITE but with only top end models of hi-fi components while ELITE wich uses also the URUSHI design sells several models of componets not only the top model of each component and saw a discution because of the two models ,one european and other American this talking about the 79 pioneer sa-9500 integrated amplifier that the europen one should have more powerfull sound not only because it uses 220-240 volts compared to the japanese version and American one that use 100 to 110 volts, but the thing is that the european model uses more power comsuption than the american one ,both have power transformers but one is 50 hz the european and 60 hz the American and it should make a diference, the Spanich guy who made the comparison couldn´t notice the diference because he was using some early 80´s HPM-1500 wich are very powerfull but to notice a diference in power one should use a less powerfull and more sensitive speaker, regards
Super pioneer elite.
Looks neat. I'd love to see a double blind A/B test, if anyone can hear the difference between all those features, like the copper plating, or drive mechanism, etc. I guess, noone will hear any difference, If we would simply treat these stuff as technological art, then it is okay.
Pioneer Elite 👍👍👍
Hi, I am commenting this from Serbia. I am audiophile, and I am regular on your channel. I find your channel very interesting and satisfying, despite sometimes I would be very sad because I cannot afford some of wonderful piece of hi end audio equipment 😄
I really would like to see video review on PD-91, because I have a chance to buy one, for now. They tag CD as Pioneer pd-91a?! I do not know what is "a" stands for. Anyway it will be very helpful for me to see and hear your review of PD-91 and should I buy one.
Thank you very much.
P.S.
There is one Marantz Gold Premium Line CD-14. What is your opinion on this CD?
Thanks for the feedback Dordee. Will do the 91 soon. Sorry not familiar with the CD14
the agglomerate of wood is better than the wood itself in some purposes, such as for example it does not warp with temperature differences, however it can absorb moisture but so can wood, but also i believe no one has material of this quality in a damp place.
I agree Elias but the veneer is mounted on cheap chip board that falls apart at the slightest impact. Perhaps they could have used a ply base.
@@SkyFiAudio I understand, maybe it would be better if they didn't put anything on the sides lol, oh well... but I believe the sound quality is fantastic, I say this because my main cd player is a Pioneer DV-868Avi and it has excellent sound quality in my Aura Va-100 Evo amp, but my dream " Buy Buy Buy" would really be the Grundig CD-9009, and from what my father once told me through a magazine he read many years ago and what I've researched and seen photos since then, it might be today one of the most collectable vintage CD players, a while ago i saw one for sale in the neighbor country of Spain, but 750€ is too much for a man who has a family lol. best regards.
Wow back when they made good gear. It's a bit like going back to the olden days of Yamaha CDX 5000 and CDX 10.000.
From former Orion Blue Book of Audio Advisor Frank Stankowski the PD 93 ELITE MSRP was $1800 list price. FYI
Super, thanks Frank!! So thats $3900 in todays dollars adjusted for inflation. Sounds reasonable for such a tour de force.
@@SkyFiAudio wow.... $3,900 today definitely wouldn't be able to buy something like this today... maybe $13,900...:(
A customer brought me a PD-93 a few weeks ago with the complaint of poor readability since another service center replaced the optical block. I was fairly certain of what I'd find: the previous tech didn't get the diffraction grating alignment correct, in fact it was between the wrong nulls. Setting that takes practice, I got it thirty years ago with those miserable Pioneer car CD head units. After the full alignment procedure, it played beautifully, though I did not find it preferable to my Sony CDP-102.
Good to know there are folks still out there that know how to do an optical alignment.
Hello and nice video! What's your opinion about having a not very expensive transport and a modern DAC vs a CD player like this (otherwise very beautiful and collectible) sound wise? Is the laser part reparable, considering it's age? Thanks a lot for an honest answer.
I think the results would be similar. Redbook technology hasn't really advanced in the last 25 years.
@@SkyFiAudio Thanks a lot!
Pioineers were good but they had a VERY serious issue with their laser in that the laser lens would VERY commonly fall out. It really didn't matter if you got a budget CD player or a high end elite CD player, they all had this major issue that has caused most to not work anymore without major service (usually a replaced laser lens). I think this is one of the very few models to have a bottom mounted laser; I'd say 90% of Pioneer CD players had their laser mounted on the top. These are also ridiculously rare and you will almost never find these "out in the wild" and "for a good price". Most are found on ebay and other sites like that usually for "market price" often $1000 or more which is a lot more then I think anyone should spend on an older CD player from that era as the failure rate is quite high when you get to CD players that old (like what happened to my precious Pioneer Elite CLD-97 that went crazy a few months ago and I may never be able to fix due to it's weird complex problem).
Lol, Ive seen a few of those where the lens is sitting on the bottom of the case. Easy fix thought, love to find them .
Wrapped in copper! Wow!
$1000 worth of pennies.
I was truly surprised how much "stuff" was inside this unit. I have seen the inside of CD players before and there's usually a lot of air.
it´s to keep the standart size, also once i opened a pd-6700 i bought with 15 days of use but maybe one cd played. When opening it at the end of 20 years to tune the laser the first thing i saw was a Sony part but no cd from sony in that price range works daily and in a night club for 20 years and still works today
Hi I wonder are you not afraid to tach the unit when the lid is of and the current is on?
FYI: I had an Elite PD 65 stable platter with Musical Concepts mods, including outboard PS that I bought used some 10+ years ago. It saw mostly limited use. About 2 years ago the laser died, calls to Pioneer parts no longer available
yeah that the bummer with all vintage players, its just a matter of time. you can find lasers if your creative but its a pain.
@@SkyFiAudio Same thing happened to my Marantz HD CD-1. When I called it was discontinued, but, I was given the part number. I found ONE from Asia, but $150 + shipping. Instead I bought a Audiolab CDT6000. Amazing value
PD-91 video please!
Coming up.
Hi Fernando ..Wow another great review
Could I ask you a special favor I acquired a Denon DCD3500 RG or G.. CD player They are very rare in Australia I would dearly love your take on this machine if you get the chance to see one...All The Best from down under down 👇🇦🇺
Ill keep an eye out for one.
@@SkyFiAudio Many Thanks 🙏
I have a Musical Concepts version. Honestly, it crushes hi-rez Roon streaming
Spot on!
Nice player, but the Linn CD12 from that era (around 1999) had the best sound.
Thanks for the info!
The PD 93 cost £1430 GBP in 1991 in the UK
Yikes!!! Thats crazy! Anybody konw the US retail price? I suspect its not just a matter of conversion as pricing varied from market to market.
@@SkyFiAudio
That would be about £3,412. 38 in today's money 😲
I have one with a bad cd drive motor, is it repairable? is it worth fixing?
I would add (sadly out of business) any thing oppo!
Good working stuff the Oppo but not very inspiring
@@SkyFiAudio Get the top of the line with all the butterworth filters you might change your mind DO love your content. The oppo was one of the only ones that could play Kraftweres 7 channel blue ray up to 32 mps without stalling Kraftwerk even had a warning stating not responsible for damage to your equipment
Sir I have this unit stored along with the Sony 80 Pre amp you review. The Pioneer just stopped reading my CD,s any information we're can be fixed and be repaired.
Sadly there is not much you can do. Some folks source lasers from other models to rescue the better ones.
Is that the one that had the super clean impulse response like a Wadia?
Wadia did have a pioneer like Stable Platter at some point. I suspect it was Pioneer made.
That is lovely, but just cannot believe the fixed mains cable! I have hi-fi components worth £500 or about $600 and I would be disappointed if they didn't have an unplugable lead.
I have Pioneer Elite set and unplugable cable dont Bother me. I dont believe in hi end power cables.
Kinda strange they would make it fixed for this level piece. Come to think of it, the rest of the stack including the amp has fixed cords too. :-(
@@Watcher4111 Nor me, I just think it's neater having everything plug in rather than having wires coming out of the back. Doesn't really make any material difference either way really though!
I think the changable power cord is really a new thing maybe started in late 90s? people and companies probably never thought about customer would want to change it nor they would change the sound.
@@oskay4018 It is just another way to separate those with too much $$$ and and their wallet. You can spent enormous amounts on a power cord but the wiring to get the power to the outlet is just plain ole copper.
Absolutely gorgeous unit inside and out. I would kill to have the whole stack:)
I think this is the best piece from the stack but the amp is pretty cool too.
Was there ever a stable plater model that didn't have rubber belts?
I have a PD S705 I got used 20 years ago that I use as a transport. Haven't opened it up to look inside because it just keeps running.
i also have the turntable cd player PD-S804 that i bought in 93 or around it and it´s one of the best cd players i own, one notices a very good sound compared to other brands cd players at the time ,they used to say pulseflow then there was the direct link convertion or something similar but one can notice the improvement in sound quality and a litle more higher output sound, i remenber sony ES (esprit series/not elevated standart like some say ,that´s only written on the 1990 catalog from ES series) having a cd player very expensive that it had two modules the one that reads the cd and other where all the functions are and other that is similar to the CEC that one inserts the cd on top of the player casing and no display (because it´s also in other module) and some almost not seen keys to the basic functions(play,stop,pause and next or previous track wich costs a lot of money when new and today in second hand and more than 20 years of use ,they ask even more ,several thousands of €´s
I dont recall if it had belts. Fingers crossed!
By the way the turn of display is nothing to do with saving the display or dark room, it was to stop electrical interference onto the circuit form the VFD display. Also just correct you that is not true about belts, I had cd player in for repair that are 30 years old and the belts are fine. So it depends on how belts are made.
Thanks so much for the video Fernando ! I bought the Pioneer PD-93 10 days ago. Absolutely solidly built, very heavily and beautiful looking and sounding. Love it. I wonder how PD-93 compare against vintage SONY 777ES series ? Any thoughts would appreciate that !! Thanks
it´s far suoperior to the Sony but there´s also in the 90´s a even better cd player from Pioneer that still today also surprises me for it´s quality of sound wich in other brands expensive cd players it seems in music that have the sound filled ,like big orchestras when playing all instruments at the same time or like oasis second and third album that i notice the distorcion either than the guitars that were loud and at the time if recorded from the digital output even worse, at the time the analog output was much better sounding due to it´s good internal DAC
Great timing on the 93 and congrats. I suspect they are pretty equal.
I still prefer Sony cdp-77esd cdp-557esd or the cdp-x777ES, cdp-5000, cdpR1 and R3 cdp-xa-7es and the all mighty scd1 Sony made a lot of very good and for me the best CD players at the time they were as good as the made in Japan Philips,
@@johnnysmile01 i only had problems when in the 90´s i assembed a complete ES system and also some of my friends bought sony cd players and expensive ones ,and all had problems ,maybe because we live in very hot and dry region but they do sound good the problem is that problems started to appear at the end of 3 years . The amplifier that i´ve already seen it for sale on ebay, at the time i didn´t knew that only in Portugal and U.K they were sold with two power transformers and two big capaciteurs ,it weight more than 30 kg but the ones i see for sale are only with one power transformer and two smaller capaciteurs ,wich had a very good phono stage compared to other amplifier brands from the same year, i ended up selling everything and bought a pioneer system and today i´m using a mix of components from the 70´s, late 80´s and 90´s wich is my main system and have other 3 systems not so good in my house,icluding the garage where i have 6 old cars my second hobby either than hi-fi ,old cars that i bought because i liked them while growing up, regards
@@johnnysmile01 tem a ver com o calor no interior sul do Alentejo se já cá passou deve lembrar-se do calor, eu tenho um leitor de philips que por dentro é o mesmo que o Marantz 52 que ganhou alguns prémios no início dos anos 90 ,não sabia era que a philips tinha enviado a produção para o japão, mas de qualquer forma em termos de qualidade de som o CDP-X777ES é muito melhor em saída de som isto usando a saída analógica, o problema é o calor e a sony é uma das marcas que não resiste a trabalhar muitas horas com temperaturas elevadas embora o amplificadopr integrado que comprei era mesmo muito bom e só em Portugal e Reino Unido é que tinham as mesmas especificações nos restantes países de Europa eram inferiores em qualidade com uma diferença muito grande só em peso era uma diferença de mais de 20kg o equivalente da Pioneer era mais caro que acabei por comprar depois o A-91D, os meus cumprimentos
Excelente equipo, Pioneer y Yamaha solían hacer equipos realmente increíbles, y con una calidad de construcción excelente. Aquí en Yuotube hay un señor que rapara solo Deck (hifirulezzz) y reparo un Deck Pioneer (T-1100) y quedo sorprendido del rendimiento del equipo, superando a los Nakamichi.
El T1100 tiene CD y Cassette, muy extraño.
@@SkyFiAudio No solo cassette, pero hago el comentario porque algo tan emblemático como lo es el Nakamichi Dragon y este Pioneer lo supero, por lo menos en grabación. Pioneer es una buena marca de audio. que compite con las mejores.
When I made the move from laserdisc to DVD, I ended up buying the Pioneer Elite DVL-91 combo player; it played DVDs and laserdiscs. The tray was very unique. The DVD tray was a separate piece but at the same time it was part of the larger laserdisc tray. If you hit the DVD eject button, only the DVD tray came out. If you hit the laserdisc eject button, both trays came out as one, large tray. Here, a picture is worth a thousand words: ruclips.net/video/KWIimsPrORk/видео.html It had the copper bottom like what you showed here. It even had a screensaver.
I remember that strange drawer setup. Very unique indeed.
@@SkyFiAudio It was pretty neat. Also, I think I had a late-model DVL-90 and not a 91 because the 91 had different style buttons and tray. Mine had a blue power indicator, like the 91, and the same remote as the 91, even though it was the 90 model.
Pioneer saved created laserdisc and the following DVD format.
I was surprised to hear you say that you preferred true power buttons rather than standby. I've always heard, mainly from gear producers and sellers, that you should leave your gear in standby as it keeps it warmed up and that the jolt of electricity from powering it up does more harm than good. So which is better - to keep your gear in standby or powering it off and on after each use?
I heard this too, especially when it comes to slotted boards which over time can jolt out of place to the point of losing contact
Unless it has tubes in it, or they tell you not to do it in the manual, you leave it on all the time. It sounds better and lasts longer.
The question is what kind of standby. Often, it’s merely the ir circuit that remains on.
today they worn out very fast ,the lights start to decrease it´s brightness ,even worse in components bought in the 90´s i remenber this cd player having no stand by the light on the display never faded ,but the first i bought with stand by i notice one day that i fall a sleep in a sofa next to my system that even closed i notice that the display had some faded red light but in very thin lines through the all display ,also a deck i bought from pioneer in the 90´s, the CT-95 earlier model also had the same type of display but in other decks the display with the years starts to fade till one can´t see almost any light but also the display cover is a very thick piece of tinted black crystal plastic that when one disassenble it the lights on the display are still very bright, but one should disconect the all system from the plug everytime one lives home or not using it so this doesn´t happen(the fade of the lights),maybe in country´s that the electrical suply is not the best one should nkeep them on ,the diference that i know is the voltage and not only like pioneer components are in some country´s 110 volts 60 hz and in Europe excluding the british it´s 220 votls to 240 volts and 50 hz but the turntables since the 70´s said 110V and 50/60hz this in 74 when i went for the first time to japan where brands do release diferent components that are sold outside Japan
@@RUfromthe40s The thin horizontal red lines are not a sign of wear but an actual part of how the FL display operates.
But would it really be worth the going price since the dacs these days are so much better?
they are better today in regular equipment ,already existed very good DAC like in this cd player for one reason they still sound better than most of other brands cd players and look at the price of it´s internal DAC today if still available, the laser only cost in most of the country´s 400€ ,with this money in 88 when this cd player came out ,you could buy a very good cd player with what today is 400€, sorry in 2015 and there´s also the DAT decks(wich are still the best digital source available to the consumer) that came out in the second alf of the 80´s a few years after the first cd player component with the same design or style and size of other components , regards
WANT TO GET A Sony cdp-77esd, One thing i want to know is the draw made of plastic or metal? Lots of japanese CD players and cassette decks have Transformers on the back like this One.
I think that one is metal. More importantly is which laser does it use.
Hi sir
How does it sound??
I love JAPAN!
Specially from this era.
Macchina possente come un carrarmato!!!
I'm the last guy to throw cold water on Vintage High-End audio, but I want to offer an honest comment here. Yes, it has a great transport, and it is extremely well-made and great-looking. Period! The thing is, though, there's a HUGE difference between - " It sounds nice for Digital", and "Wow! This CD sounds like Music, not bits and samples!" My only point is NOT to say this CD Player sounds mediocre, but to simply make the point that there's no way that anyone with good ears couldn't hear all the progress we have made in CD technology between the date when this was designed, and May 2024. Was this CD Player one of the best when it came out? Surely. But a current NAD, Marantz, Arcam, or better yet, a used Sony ES CD Player would eat this Pioneer for lunch, sonically. Be smart with your Audiophile money people. Don't "listen" through Rose-colored glasses and live in the past like many do.
Is this the same for the elite DVD players
No, DVD players are quite different and usually inferior.
Just sold off an old Pioneer Elite LD-S2, as if anyone watches Laser Disks anymore.
Our Pioneer LD player sold in a few hours after posting.
Solid rose wood would have cost as much as the rest of the unit. A solid wood would also is more likely to resonate.
The linear supplies were really beefy. All my high-end players were Sony ES, glass epoxy boards. Never liked the use of phenolic boards on anything.
I wish electronics would eliminate the electrolytic caps, a point of common failure.
I’ve got a Denon dcd-3520 which has all what this has and balanced outputs. Better built machine aswel. Yeah like the pioneer has a capacitive mains cord but going to fit a 3pin iec socket when I have a moment.
I have the ps 91 transport. Only transport i heard that gets analog like detail. It beats my audio research transport. I dread the day it dies.
It is a pity that these elegant designs have been lost.
For sure Jose. Most of the new stuff is boring and bland.
Добрый день! Продаете Pioneer PD-93?
It's a CD player... they all sound the same if they have a competent dac. Or you can play your files off of pc in lossless format with a 200 dollar dac and have transparent audio.
Yes Sergey but thats no fun.
Actually no Sergey, once converted to analog the signal still has to pass through electronics. In addition early CD players used a single DA converter that led to an 11usec delay between channels and at a low sampling rate of 44Khz led to the "frying egg" sound. I know this machine well as the store in worked at in the 80-90s had this and the CTA9X as well as the rest of this awesome Elite line.
Of course the really sad thing is according to RIAA cd sales have (I was shocked) plummeted 90% in USA since 2000
I think they had a recent bump in sales when Adele released her new album. Nice thing is that used CDs are cheap, unlike good vinyl.
Wow, just plain Shit-Elegant ! Beautiful ..
Oh I forgot to say, I paid $750.00 for my pd 65
Nice score!
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Finally got it to load on my phone and PlayStation 3. It wouldn’t load on my desktop web browser though. Do a video on the 91
Will do, must have been a local issue.
I miss the days of when Pioneer was freaking PIONEER, they are such a former shadow of themselves. Their modern AVR's aren't that great, they are ok, but I think Denon and Marantz make much better stuff at the consumer level.
Marantz still makes some nice stuff.
@@SkyFiAudio ya, but none of it is like the golden age of the 90s and 00s.
I'm using a Pioneer PD95 (PD-S95 in the US) . Laser unit is not operational at this moment, so , end of story! Pioneer has no replacements anymore...!My advice , don't buy a vintage cd player !
Not watching, more audiophoolery. That thing can't meet or beat today's digital.
Remotes not original 😂😂😂😂😂
oh no! I think the remote is a universal one that goes with the entire system.
@@SkyFiAudio model no. CU-P0038 similar remote to the PD91 without the fade in fade out index window and music window... unless American market had a different remote 🤨
nö bürmestäre töp lödäre but intere$ting v?v
Had one years ago along with matching amps wtf did I sale them🥲🥲🥲 weight was crazy like picking up bag cement
50 lbs of copper. I guess it would have a good recycle value too :-)